Hour 3 - For You In Review, Gee Scott

Get in the freaking auto! From the Quantum Fiber Studio, this is Brock and Salk on Seattle Sports. Brock Ewerd is my hero. James Ewerd just punched me in the kidney. I'm gonna use you to a man. Don't let him hurt you. That way, Sherm, this is a show that has my name on it. It's that. It's got a turd, though. Now, here are your hosts, Brock Ewerd and Mike Salk. Hello! Hello! Hello! All right, a couple hours left here of our week on Brock and Salk. Lyle, Maura, both in today. The next day, G will be in a little bit at 8.30. Stacey Ross is gonna pop by at 9 o'clock, hang out for a few minutes, and then we'll take your phone calls at 9.30. So looking forward to that. Since Stacey's coming in later, I thought we'd bump up for you in review in order to make. I don't know Stacey to come in extra early. Her show doesn't start for two hours. We don't need to torture her and get her in. I mean, she's gotta spend time with Lucie, the dog. Her nice new greyhound. Really pretty dog, by the way. If you haven't had a chance to see Stacey's dog, text her. Text the show. Stacey to post pictures of the dog. He's so cute. I was listening to their show yesterday, and apparently she's got a dilemma where, I think she said her sister's calling him dookie. She doesn't like it. Well, I don't blame her. That's obnoxious. So now Bump was telling random people that listen to the show if they see her walking her dog to yell out dookie. That's not nice. Yeah. I know, I support her. Yeah, come on. The dog's name is, she didn't even get to name the dog. The dog already had a name. So it's not like she chose it. Oh, that's just terrible. She's from Australia. Come on, people. She adopted him. Yeah, they call him dookie. Make sure she posts more pictures. He's very cute. And in the meantime, we'll go through our week in review. BrockenSalk Presents For You In Review. Time for our weekly chat with Jeff Passen from ESPN. We've got Joel Klack. Good morning, Joel. Let's talk to Coach McDonnell. This is For You In Review. Brought to you by the Seattle Sports YouTube page, where you can find the full version of every interview. It was nice to have both Passen and DJ on in the same week once again. It's been a little while on that. So we'll get to them in just a sec. I'll start with Monday. Jason Benetti, the new voice of Sunday Night Baseball on Peacock and NBC joined us after calling the Mariner Games Sunday night and posed an interesting question about Julio. I thought it was really interesting the way Cleveland pitched Julio in the series. I mean, it was 71% fastball, the first three games of the series and coming out of the shoot, throwing a guy that many fastballs. I think they see something based on what their pitchers have. And some of them are cutters, right? So it's not all four seed fastballs, but 71% in the fastball category is a lot. And we haven't had a chance to look and see what that was, what the Yankees did. But yeah, I mean, when you see it for three games and he didn't pitch, didn't hit all that well, you're like, all right, or four games, or I'm like, OK, maybe it's a small thing. And then three more games and Julio still not really figuring it out yet at the plate. And it's not just that the numbers haven't been good. He just hasn't looked that good, right? I mean, the bats just haven't looked all that good. So yeah, maybe a little concern and hoping that he figures it out. And because being on the fastball should be the first thing that Julio can do. That's just where it all starts for him. So get back onto the fastball. We talked to pass in on Tuesday and those slow starts, whether it's Julio or Cal or whomever, is there a connection between that and the play in the WBC? I don't think there is a sample large enough, Brock, to draw a widespread conclusion. I just think that every player is going to react differently to it. And it's a fair question because you see Cal Raleigh with a 500 OPS. You see Josh Naylor hit list through five games. You see Julio with one hit. And on the other hand, you know, Don Hamzone has looked really good out there. And Randy Rosarana has looked pretty good out there. So I just think it's an individual thing. I think it is too. I think it's hard to start to blame the WBC. But I thought Roland Smith's point that, look, Cal was behind with his pitcher. So then he needed to go focus on that rather than focusing on what was happening with his own swing. I think that's a fair question and a fair point. Well, not just his own swing, both his own swing. Absolutely. That's one of the toughest things about him is he's got two swings to manage, which is probably why it may take him a little bit of time to get his swing where he wants it to be. That's a good point, Lyle. And that's always going to be true for switch hitters. It's a reason we talk about the switch hitting catcher and how hard it was, right, for him or for weeders or for, or not weeders. Adley Ruchman, excuse me. I wanted to call him Matt Weeders. Just a couple of Baltimore super prospect catchers, one who's worked out a little bit better than the other. But yeah, those sweet Pesada, Veratec, like all of those switch hitting catchers, if you can pull off all three of those things, you really become a bit of a unicorn. Robert Murray, fan-sided, parent friend of Lyle's, joined us on Wednesday to talk about the big Colt Emerson signing. I really liked him. He was really good. Yeah, they're going to continue to be patient with him. They really want to not rush him throughout the minors here. He is an incredibly talented young player who they want to be mindful of and bring him to the major leagues when he's ready. And this allows them to be patient with him because you're not going to have to worry about people worrying about like service time manipulation because we always hear about that being a thing when it comes to prospect call-ups. But I don't think it changes anything from the marriage perspective and also from his perspective. And also too, like one thing we've heard even Corbin Carroll say that when he ended up doing his deal, it gave him peace of mind where he could go out on the field and play free where he didn't have to worry about like future earnings or whatever. And I think that's going to allow him to play free. I mean, it also might result in him buying a few more meals on the road for his minor league teammates, but still like it's a good situation for him and they can be very patient. I think that's all true. And one of the nice things about this deal is there really is now no rush. You're paying him the same amount either way. So there is no reason to bring him up or not bring him up. You just wait till he's ready. And if he hits, lie along with you. I don't see any reason why he should be down there too long past Memorial Day. May feels about right. If Connor Griffin's coming up today, now Connor Griffin with the pirates doesn't have the same kind of roster around him. He's like the only thing. I mean, there's Paul Skeen's few other guys, but you bring up Connor Griffin because why not? But the pressure now on Connor Griffin when he gets called up, they're gonna televise that game today when he gets called up after signing in a $140 million contract. I said earlier, he's gonna need to go five for four with six home runs just to live up to the hype. Maybe you can, I mean, Steven Strasburg, did you remember that first Steven Strasburg? Were you old enough to remember Steven Strasburg's first game? Yeah, 13 punch outs. Oh my God. It was one of the coolest things I've ever watched. With all of the hype around him to just show up and deliver like that in that game was so cool. He was unhittable, absolutely nasty. Curious to see what happens with Connor Griffin and the Mariners don't need to go down that road with Colt. They can just take their time and when he's ready, bring him up and I'm sure they will. Phillip Rivers, Cool Gas, great idea by Brock to talk to some folks that have played against this Seahawks team. And apparently that's not easy to do. Early in a week, you're worried about yourself and your own game plan. And then it's like, all right, man, I got, where's this thinking, Nickel, I gotta make sure I know where three is. It's in the game like a linebacker all the time. And then here's Wither Spoon that obviously is the heck of a blitzer as well and a great DB and then there's defensive front and wherever you, how do we want to handle Leonard Williams? And what about Lawrence and Chenna and these guys rushing on the outside? So as you're going through the week and really felt like the box was their strength and you felt like three was kind of the star. And he would be the kind of guy that I was star and say, look out, he'll wreck this game and he can play, he's as fast as anybody on the field but he's also as physical as any linebacker and any guy in the box. And obviously that linebacker core, I just thought as a whole, they're with Ernest and Drake Thomas and then you throw in, you consider, Emman Mori as a linebacker, even though I know he's a safety, so it was a safety, Nickel kind of body but they were really solid. Maybe quarterbacks don't think as much about defensive linemen, right? Because quarterbacks are looking farther down the field and they really need their offensive line to deal with the defensive linemen. But hearing the way Rivers and the way Tom Brady talked about Nicky and Mori, certainly is eye-opening for what it is that he can do to wreck the game. And we know that offensive coordinators are frustrated because they can play Nickel and still stop the run but here in the way those guys recognize his contribution to this defense. Yeah, it definitely stands out. Last thing was Daniel Jeremiah. We were just discussing the same thing we talked about with Brady a few minutes ago. What should they do with 32? How many picks do they have total? Four. Four, yeah. I don't know the way they're picking at 32. But it's a bad draft. I'm just telling you, they're not picking at 32. I'll be shocked. Brady seemed to think the same thing. I don't know, I'm gonna keep sticking with what Brady told us about all of the picks. It's not like passin', DJ's rarely argumentative. That's true. So you think if he's being that sure of something, he knows. But I already felt that way. I think they like volume. I understand that they haven't moved back in a while, but they've had volume. True, and they've had higher picks than this. Yeah, you guys are probably right. They probably will. I guess they didn't have that one year where they only had three, that horrible draft with like Stone foresight and DS Gridge. And the Trey Brown. Yeah. Yeah, that was not a good draft. Hopefully this one will be better than that. But you didn't even have a first round pick in that year's draft. They don't, I mean, DS Gridge is like a mid-second rounder or something. Like they didn't even have a first round pick that year. And who went like two picks later? Was it the center? It's Creed Humphrey. Creed Humphrey, yeah. That was not right. That was not good. That was not their finest moment, that's for sure. I don't know, we'll see. You can't always find somebody to trade up with you. That's the other challenge there. And you remember the year we talked about it yesterday, the Jordan Brooks year, where it seemed like they wanted to trade out, couldn't do it. And it felt anyway, like they kind of rushed that pick because Brooks was never really the right fit here in Seattle. Anyway, that's for you in review. You can find all of our interviews on the Seattle Sports YouTube page. Go there to watch the show live or afterwards to see all of these great interviews. They're all there on the Seattle Sports YouTube page where you can subscribe. We'll be right back with everything you need to know. And then G Scott on Brock and Saul. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock Heard and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP, CRMs and spreadsheets making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquee IQ brings all your data together into one clear view, even if it lives in disconnected systems or offline. So you can see what's really happening and act faster. 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Has them in the ideal start for the Mariners, just three and four in the homestand, but now they head off on the road. Anaheim and to Dallas, Brian Woo on the mound to get them started against Reed Detmers for the Angels tonight. Detmers is a lefty, so maybe another opportunity to see what this right-handed version of the lineup can do. John Morosso with Wyman and Bob Yesterday, not too concerned. The idea that we're here seven games in and we're waiting for the big guys to get going, but the supporting cast is already there. That's a pretty good place to be for the Seattle Mariners. You know that Cal's gonna hit. Julio's going to hit. He's a known slower starter. We realize that's part of his story. Naylor is gonna snap out of this. So there's a lot to like with this lineup top to bottom. Donovan, I think the quality of the at bat is exactly as advertised. He is an elite, elite hitter, line drives everywhere, really thorough at bats. He's a tough out. He sets a really good tone. The lineup is in, I would say, a better position than you might think with still having a losing record at this stage. They're one base hit away from winning that series against the Guardians. I mean, all that is true. They're also one great Luis Castillo performance away from being swept by the Yankees. So it kind of does cut both ways, but I'm with him. And I think I keep beating that drum. The fact that the role players are doing what they're doing is great news because they're sort of the X factors that can take this season from good to great or even great to greater. Yeah, you just need the guys you're counting on to do what you know they're capable of doing. JP Crawford will be back tonight. Mariners opted to activate him yesterday from the IL. A little surprising given that he was only able to play one game on the rehab assignment, but yeah, he says he's ready. So JP will be up. He's only had about 20 combined plate appearances, including spring training, nine years, 140 million for Pirate Shortstop Connor Griffin. He surpasses Colt Emerson just as he's being promoted to the big leagues. As I just said, his game will be televised on MLB network tonight. Here's the second thing you need to know. Seahawks, we're going to learn a lot about them this summer as they will be on hard knocks. John Schneider actually kind of into it. It sounds like we're going to work with the national football league and the teams that have been through before to help us just make it a positive for the organization. And I have it not be as much of a distraction. I talked to Ryan Pauls about it down there and a couple other people who is about like what it looks like and we'll have plenty of advice by the time we get there. But I think it's going to be, it's a great deal. You know, when the commissioner, when the commissioner called me about it, you know, it made sense. I mean, you know, Sam Darnold, Spoon, Jack, we got, you know, we got some, you know, Leo, Mark, we got some cool characters on this team that are, you know, great stories. I think all of that is true. It does kind of make me wonder, do you think they're more nervous about the distraction element or about giving away state secrets element? Secrets. I do too. I was surprised to hear them say the distraction thing. Although it definitely makes sense. You put cameras around people all the time. I'm sure there's definitely a level of distraction that goes with it. But yeah, I like the marketing idea and the idea of trying to just let people out of Seattle understand some of the cool people that are here. I just always worried about telling our story, but I get it from a PR standpoint, marketing standpoint. You know, we're just very protective of like, how we do things, what our culture looks like. And I guess it is, we're going to make it as possible, we possibly can without sharing as much information as we possibly can. Makes sense. I guess they are in a unique position too, where I mean, I think a lot of coaches have even come out and said, Harbaugh came out and said that he's going to try to do a little of what McDonald's doing, which is funny because McDonald learned from him. You're in a position where everyone's going to try to copycat you already. No one's really done it coming off of a Super Bowl. No, no, I mean, there's always been bad teams. And so everyone's like, oh, all the teams are going hard knocks end up being bad that year. Well, most of them were bad to begin with. This team is different because yeah, it is a fascinating, and there's no control group. This is sort of the first opportunity to see what this looks like. Good talk with Daniel Jeremiah yesterday. And there is one home run fit. He said, if you want to go edge at number 32, his name is R Mason Thomas. R Mason Thomas is in the back end of my top 50. He's the absolute home run pick who would fit. To me, he plays. He's got an extremely explosive getoff. He plays with big energy. He's got active hands. He's not the biggest guy in the world. He's 241 pounds. But I thought he played bigger than that, played violent. There's a touch of tightness in there. But to me, it's just the effort and the energy and the juice that he brings off the edge. He's the perfect to me on a great team. I saw it on a team that obviously didn't end up being great, but the Chargers had O'way who went out and got 25 million bucks as their third rusher. As the number two rusher on a team, he's a good player. You maybe you wanted a little more. But when he's your number three rusher, and he's part of that rotation, you're keeping him fresh. And he's just throwing fastballs the whole time. I'm R Mason Thomas. And that is kind of the role that would be left for somebody like that. We'll see if our Mason Thomas ends up a fit here in Seattle. Here's the third day you need to know. I'm sick of talking about this one. But yeah, the Kraken just looked terrible after they got up to a two-nothing lead yesterday. They say it's the worst lead in hockey and they proved it because they just gave it all back. And then some, they give up six goals in a row to lose to Utah. Look, they may not have a good team, but laying over and dying with that point nine games left to play, not what anybody needed to see from the Kraken. So now it's eight games left. There are four games back. There are four teams ahead of them. Gonna be tough, but not impossible, but very, very, very, very tough and impossible if you play the way you did last night. That is everything you need to know. Quarter past every hour here in the Brock and Salk shows. I think that's the second goalie interference goal disallowed for Jacob Milanson. Very frustrating. You look great. Great play last night. I'm so excited. Brock's going to write a letter. I might strongly worded more, a very strongly worded letter. I said last night the league is cowardly. They're cowards. They're afraid of Milanson. They're all afraid of them. I don't blame them. G Scott's in next. Be afraid yourself. It's Brock and Salk. Seattle Sports on 7 10, Seattle Sports app. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock Heard and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERPs, CRMs and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquis IQ brings all your data together into one clear view. Even if it lives in disconnected systems or offline, so you can see what's really happening and act faster. Stop running your business on highlights. 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Call 877-4-LEVITT. Levitt Group Northwest. Insurance you can count on season after season. 877-4-LEVITT. The Mariners Kids Club presented by BECU is 100% free and a great way to get your kids excited for a lifetime of Mariners baseball. Sign up online at mariners.com slash kids club and your kids will receive exclusive giveaways, access to member events and more. From the Quantum Fiber Studio, this is Brocken's O. Weekday 6 to 10 on Seattle Sports and 973 FM HD 2. Well, it must be Friday, it must be 30 and the people must be getting exactly what they want. Good morning, Gene. Good morning. I mean, every time I come in here, you act like, oh, well, it must be Friday. Come on, you know you love seeing me, bro. I do. Means my week's almost over. Cool. I see you. And I know that we are coming down the final stretch. Yeah. And then my week is nearly over. How are you? I'm great, I'm fantastic. Let the people know I can't see any text messages because the computer don't work right here. That's for the best. But that's probably, yeah, probably so. I'm doing great, man, as you know, on eight days, in eight days is your dog's birthday, man. Your dog turning 50. 50. 50. How are you feeling about that? I feel fantastic. I feel like seriously, probably this might be my most favorite birthday. I would say number one, even though I don't think it was for the positive, was probably my 21st birthday. I mean, forever, yeah. For most people. For many people. You're looking forward to it, but really, you're just like, man, you have so much that you don't know. But I think that coming into this year, man, this is the first time in my life where I actually feel like a grown up. This year is the first time. I actually feel like an adult. You didn't feel like a grown up at 40? I just been playing too much. You know, everything's a joke. But more importantly, I'm just more embracing my age. I think it's a beautiful thing. For all my brothers and sisters out there that's in their fifties, send me some advice and all that stuff. But more importantly, man, I'm just super excited about it. Well, I'm excited for you. 50 years old. I mean, you're in a great place in your life. You got a great show over on our sister station, 973 Kyron News Radio with Ursula. You got a great video podcast, The Reset, which you can find at the Seattle Sports YouTube page. You get to come on here every single week on Friday. I mean, like, what could be better than that? You're married, your kids are doing great. All of them are doing great. Like you're in a pretty great place. Yeah, my daughter just had this video that went viral because she does a legal shield. And this guy gets pulled over. Legal shield is when you have an opportunity where you can just like, if you get pulled over, you can just call your lawyer right through the spot, right? So you call your lawyer and your lawyer's right there and then your own FaceTime. So the law enforcement comes over to the side of the car and they're like, hey, is everything good? Who is that you're talking to? They're like, that's my lawyer. And so my daughter is talking to them and the cops are like, I didn't know that you can do this. The thing is gone viral. Six million views on that. On your daughter? On my daughter. Wow. So it's just kind of cool to see like different people comment. Like, yo, the lawyer is a bad. The Scott family is just everywhere. Like, just there. Your dad called it. He knew. Your dad knew. Right? Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He almost got me there, Mike. All right. Sorry. He almost got me. How did I almost get you? Do you have a tear in the eye? I don't know. I'm looking at you. Let me give you the up light so we can really see underneath that hat. He was coming on with those eyeballs over there as you're nearly 50. What do you think of Hard Knocks? That was kind of the under the radar, but huge Seahawks news this week. What do you think of Hard Knocks coming to Seattle? At first, I didn't like it. I was like, you didn't like it for the Seahawks or for you? I didn't like it for the Seahawks. OK. Right? And whenever I see and think about Hard Knocks, I used to always think, man, it's probably 14 that won't do well. Right? That's what it was. Yeah. I mean, you could opt out of it if you were doing well. Right. And so the Seahawks have done a phenomenal job of, now we good, you know what I mean? And I would say that years ago, so glad you did opt out. So but I had to change a heart. And the reason I believe that I had to change a heart on this is because you know what? I think the NFL, I think more importantly, in the next generation, and kids, and I'm not trying to brag, but they need to see what's happening here in Seattle with this team. They need to see, like when I think about the cornerstone of these team, the two guys that drafted in 2023 with a spoon and JSN, like those guys right there. Like when's the last time you heard of anything knock on wood about those guys off the field? As a matter of fact, anybody on this team currently, when you don't hear any of that. So that's one. Two. None of them are going to rehab in Malibu? Yeah, I'm not going to. Yeah. I'll get on him in a second on Puka. But this is a culture. How and what the philosophy behind Mike McDonald. Now, I don't think they're going to probably learn as much because I think he might hold a little bit under the vest. But there is something that is happening with this team, that the NFL in this country and people need to see. And I'm saying that thing wholeheartedly because I can't wait for them to see. Like I tell you guys stories about JSN and what happens behind the scenes. I can't wait for hard knocks to literally show you. JSN sometimes going on walking deals with coffee in his hand, barefoot because his trainer wants him to be grounded in the morning times. I can't wait for you to see what his preparation is, not just before practice, but what he does after practice. Like there's some young kids and maybe you're a parent or you have kids that are in sports. Like sometimes after practice probably might not be the best time to go home and eat a bunch of donuts and cupcakes and all those things. Like talking about the nutrition. Now, I know it sounds boring, but what does separate? Do you think you're starting to focus on that stuff? Maybe they will. They usually do some of that. Here's the thing about Jackson. Jackson's a boring dude. You see what I'm saying? So they may not focus on him. Well, you have to. You have to. Now, I'll tell you who I want in the focus. Who do you want to learn more about? Devon Witherspoon. Because he's what? Because he is so like the Tasmanian devil on the field. I know nothing about Spoon Off the Field. I don't know anything that makes him tick. So I'm really curious about him. We know how highly regarded he is by his coaching staff and how much his teammates seem to love and respect him and the energy that they all say he brings. So we have learned a little bit about him, but really more from the outside second hand of what other people say about him. So I think we have a sense of who he is. That's a good point. Like I would like to know kind of what makes him tick. Who else on your list? I know he practices hard. Right? Like he's a, he really practices hard. Let's see. I would like to see, I want to see more about, learn about Sam Darno. And one of my little things, my little things that I've always kept, I've never even said this on the air. What was it? The San Francisco game last week, 18, last game of the year. So I'm going to go ahead and talk about it. Last game of the year, Seahawks down in San Fran. And I was at the team hotel and I was sitting there with a few of the guys and we're, this was after all their meetings and stuff. And Sam Darno is, they're playing chess. You know what I mean? Like watching these dudes play chess. And it was at that moment, I was thinking, I was like, yo, this team is different. And by the way, I'm getting ready to turn 50. So maybe it's me that's different. Maybe times are different. Maybe you're looking at different things. But I know, I just know with things and how things used to be. A little more wild. Yes, yes. There's a reason why G Scott has never wrote a book. I mean, like I've never done that. But I want to just say like watching them dudes take turns playing chess. And I thought, and everybody has their thing, but when I saw that, I was like, yeah, they're going to win. I guess the Niners down here on week 18. Now I know, he's like, oh, gee, what are you talking about? Everybody has their thing where they just see something and they're like, man, this team might be really different. And same thing with Mike McDonald. I think that even when he first came here as a coach, me, person, I'm going to speak for myself, man, I don't know about this dude. Well, I'm judging him because maybe the charisma factor that we have been used to for so long, we didn't see that. We just see somebody that kind of just crossed T's, dot eyes, simple. I mean, let's be real. You hear Mike McDonald on with Brock and Salk every time. You know, I mean, didn't y'all have a 17 second pause? We did. You see what I'm saying? Like the dude's different. They're going to get to edit that stuff out though. They don't have to wait 17 seconds on hard knocks. They can just edit that right out. Why did y'all edit that out? What do you mean? Because he was alive. What do you mean? It was alive. Plus, I don't know, I actually found it kind of entertaining and interesting to see how his brain functions. Learning about Mike will be great. Learning about Schneider will be, you know, John is such an effervescent kind of personality. Now, that, now that's, you, you're getting ready to ask me, who else? John Schneider. Like, what the heck is he put, what's his recipe? What's in the sauce right now? I don't think you're going to find that out to you. No, no, no. John's going to be, John is, the, one of John's great strengths is not giving away anything he doesn't want to. Yeah. Right? It's, it's sort of covering up what he doesn't want to give you with a lot of fun and exuberance and words. Which I think he learned from Pete, but not actually telling you anything he doesn't want to tell you. You know what John, you know what John Schneider reminds me of? John Schneider is the homeboy that's at the party, right? On a Friday night. And then on Saturday morning, when everybody's waking up, John Schneider is like, yep, you were doing this and you were doing that and you were doing this. Like John Schneider pays attention to, I thought you were going to say, the next morning he's at work. Like he's at the party party on Friday night, but he's also at work at 7am on Saturday morning. Yes. He wakes up ready to go. Done matter. Because, because he's so detail oriented. And speaking of detail, like look at the guys he's drafting. I mean, just do this hitting home run. Well, and I want to see some of those. Like I think A.J. Barner should be pretty interesting. And, you know, he seems like kind of a wild personality. We saw some of that. A.J. Barner is going to be an actor when he's done play. Yeah. I mean, we saw some of that at the, at the, at the parade. Leonard Williams and the spear fishing and like sort of his unique and very, I mean, he seems like super smart guy. I love talking to him. He's been one of my favorite interviews. I'd like to learn a little bit more about what's going on behind the scenes and let him Murphy's world. Uh, how many kids does DeMarcus Lawrence have? There's no way we're not going to see that whole thing. Like he's, was he have six kids? Something like that. Oh, does he? Oh yeah. I know. Again, he's like super dad. DeMarcus Lawrence is one that, uh, I don't know. Right. I would, I would love six, right? More six kids. More. Yeah. I would. His wife was having pregnant with their six right before the super. It's a lot of kids. Yeah. I would, I would, I want to find, I want to see a little bit of Leonard Williams and his father-in-law Ronnie lot. Like I want to see some of that action. Now there's some cool stuff. I gotta tell you now here's the one that, that I think is going to be really entertaining. Okay. Ernest Jones, the fourth thing. Yeah. That's a good one. Sneaky interesting dude. He's going, he's bruh. Or just remember years ago, I told you guys, and I told you the story about every time just a way that Dwayne Brown back in the day, we're walking to the room and he'd walk into the room with some of the alphas that we know of today. And those same alphas that we talk about with big personalities when, when Dwayne Brown walked in the room, them same alphas would be like, Oh, what's that man? You know, it was a little quiet. I'm not saying Ernest Jones, the fourth is that way. But when Ernest Jones walks around and he has it, when he says something, oh yeah, folks listening. Oh, you're listening to Ernest Jones. So since you are still in contact with so many of the LOB era guys, two questions. One, what's their reaction to the Seahawks doing hard knocks? Are they jealous that they never got to do it? Are they happy that they never got to do it? Have you heard anything from them about it? Yes. Um, and like I said, I don't speak for all of that. I know that, but just I was curious if you'd heard any reaction. Good, good for them currently that they're doing that. And it was good also for them not doing it. None of them would. Who do you think that the hard knocks would have focused on if they had been here in 2014? They would have focused on Russell. That would have gone well. The everyone else would have really liked that. Well, I mean, it's TV. So you can edit, right? You know what I mean? Yeah. So you can, you really edit. So I think it was a great job of not being on hard knocks, but I think this is like, I think the NFL, I think everyone, I think especially whenever I think about these things, I just think sometimes about, um, I know, remember years ago when Charles Barkley was at 25, 30 years ago when he's like, I'm not a role model, you know, those types of things. But the truth is these athletes really are role models, right? Like, you know, you gotta think there's a Rams fan right now that was a big puka nukua fan. Like, and by the way, puka nukua is a great football player. But what has happened to puka, by the way, what happened to puka didn't just happen overnight. What happened to puka happened. It took time to happen. It took a whole lot of, look the other way for this to happen. It took a whole lot of, uh, whether it's personnel, I'm not saying who, but because he was good at football, right? That's, that's like the whole talent tolerance level. You know that deal. If your talent's high, tolerance high, your talents low, tolerance is low. So because his talent was high, the tolerance was high as well. And that high tolerance did nothing good for puka. Puka has been in this situation for longer than just December. And unfortunately it has all come to pass. You pay puka that kind of money. The Rams aren't paying puka. I told, I've been saying this to you guys, to everyone for the last two, three months, puka has, wait a minute. We're talking about the stuff that puka has been caught doing. Right. We're not talking about the stuff that hasn't been put out there, but that the Rams know about it, but the Rams do know about it. Like, like puka has done some dumb stuff. We were saying earlier, he is, if you had to compare him to any player in NFL history, the obvious comp right now would be Antonio Brown because of the incredible talent, but also some of the off field messiness. You make a pretty strong case that pre getting paid before getting paid. Puka is messier than Antonio Brown. Yes. Antonio Brown was not bad before he got paid. At least we knew about it. At least we knew about it. And then they paid him and it went very strongly off the rail. And by the way, Antonio Brown in probably worse than puka. Now, I, I'll tell you guys something. And, and I don't know. And the NFL never learns it's lessons. I should probably, I should not probably test it. By the way, another thing about getting 50. I realized that you are more apt to do and put out some conspiracy theories. So I used to make fun of my uncle, my father's brother, because he's got a lot of them, but I'm noticing myself. But let me just say this. I find it interesting that I myself have heard things about puka that did not come to the media in the past. And then all of a sudden timing is boom, boom, boom. We find out everything, a lot of these things about puka. When it's time to get paid weird, the timing on that is very suspicious. Someone said to me the other day, they said to me as far as what puka, man, well, what about the people around him? Like what about his support system? And I want to, I'm going to tell you guys something. That's all a myth. And what I mean by that is the myth is all of these guys, these young athletes that have money, they have status, they have fame, they have it all. They call the shots. Everybody that's around the agent gets paid by the athlete. The, the publicist gets paid by the athlete. The financial advisor gets paid by the athlete. Oh, you're ready for this? Oh, but what about the parents? Sometimes the parents get paid by the athlete. So who calls the shots as the athlete? Now, sometimes some of these athletes will have a coach, right? Like, um, the linebackers, they had Ken Norton, KJ, Bobby, they had Ken Norton. Sometimes the best thing that an athlete can do is to have someone in their life that is not getting paid. That is literally not getting a paycheck. And just from them who can hold them accountable. And just so we're clear. If you're a parent right now, and let's say you have a son or a daughter, if and when that moment comes when son and daughter is paying you the parent, guess who the parent is now? Where can I sign up for that though? I'd be totally fine with that. Would you have to have my kids pay me? Instead of all the money that I'm outlaying right now for them. Okay. Okay. Let's just say that's true. Would you still work though? No. You would say, okay, well, no, no, no, no, no, this is, I'll be done tomorrow. No, this is how do I retire? Let's go. I'm out. I'm done. Are you being serious? Mostly. Seriously. And by the way, text in, I'm curious. I wouldn't actually want my kids to pay me. If your child made enough money for you to stop working, would you stop working and accept that payment? I'm, here's why I'm going to tell you why I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it because of what I have seen over the last 20 years. It breaks the kid. It ends up being unfair to the kid. And it probably breaks some of the, as you said, support staff that they need. It breaks the respect level. Yeah. I think that's right. No, I agree with you. I was just sort of having some fun. I agree with you. Call me. Some other tech said did come in G since you can't see them. Earl and Michael Bennett were the two people that everybody would have really wanted to see on Heart Knocks. I'm going to tell you. Earl on Heart Knocks would have been awesome. Wearing his crown and cape. I mean, like, come on. You don't think that like following Earl around at home would have been hilarious? Earl Thomas is the most Nina. This is the most different. I'm going to say it that way. I'm going to say the most different. I have never. Now I know they're all individuals and there's never been an Earl Thomas with Seahawks ever. No, I mean, the dude used to pull up. So check this out. So he first bought his, uh, Rolls Royce, right? And Earl used to come in there and he drive the drive, drive the Rolls Royce and he'd get out of the Rolls Royce and he'd be wearing his Jordan fit because he was with Jordan brand back there and every all of Jordan stuff. And he would literally wear, I mean, have and carry a briefcase. Right. He carried a briefcase. And so then guys start saying, ah, come on, man, you, you Rolls Royce. Nobody drives a Rolls Royce. You supposed to have a driver. Now of a sudden. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh God. Earl got a driver and a security. And so some time he out there watching the cars, right? So her, her would pull up in the backseat driver would pull into his parking spot and then he get out, get out of the car. And then he had the umbrella. Let's say it was raining or something like that. And he had the umbrella. So Earl can walk up under the umbrella, walk them up to the door and then he goes back to the Rolls Royce and then later on in the day, he'll come back up and pick Earl up in the Rolls Royce. Just so we're clear in all the years. And I've never seen a player with a driver. Hey, since you mentioned Jordan Brown, we just have a couple more minutes. You've fallen. I know what's going on with Nike. Yeah. Nike's like falling apart. And they should be. They are falling apart. Their, their stock was downgraded by yesterday by Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America net income is down. They've just reading here from, uh, from Ash, Ashka, uh, Akash, Gupta. Excuse me. Nike wiped out 200 billion plus in market caps since 21. You wouldn't know why? Yeah. What, what is your theory? I was reading Darren Revelle's thoughts on it. What are your thoughts? So same as Darren Revelle. Okay. You literally. His three were focusing on retro that that that's an aging demo. Uh, the today's kids doesn't get excited about the swoosh. Instead they want goat or the drip shop. Uh, which I do. Lyle, do we like the drip shop? Is that what kids want? The drip shop? I don't even know if I've heard of the, oh, all right. So you're even too old for this. And then completely abandoning storytelling. You think all three are reasons why Nike is not where they should be. Darren Revelle, but let me tell you the number one reason why Nike is not where they, they are, um, during the pandemic and during that time and coming out of the pandemic, all of a sudden the, uh, the shoe market to get a pair of shoes, shoes come out, you can't get this shoes. Oh, you, you got to get it retail. But if usually it was sold out, you couldn't get it retail. So now you're buying it, right? Aftermarket. And so you're paying a regular pair of shoes for three, three 50. Meanwhile, this is what happened. The youngsters are like, you know what, forget that these ASICs look good. These new balance look good. And new balance and ASICs is like, Hey, we do. I don't think anyone was ever more surprised than new balance. And they're like, wait, we look good. Okay. My, my, my, my dad were alive today. He'd be like, I told you my dad's still wearing his new balance. He doesn't think they're cool, but he's wearing them. But I told you about the new balance camp. So, um, that's what happened. And, and what happened is, is Nike and the young generations basically said, we're good. Yeah, we're not paying that. We're not paying that. So the only people buying Nike is me. Right. Old folks. Yeah. Old folks that only want, they don't, the young folks don't care about the swoosh. Crazy. We, we, well, and then I, I mean, I, this is a minor part of it, but this just makes me annoyed. Like they still don't have a signature Kate and Clark shoe out. That's crazy. How's that even possible? Crazy. Like Caitlin Clark's big moment was two years ago and they still don't have a Caitlin Clark shoe. Can I just say this one? Embarrassing. That's one last thing. Um, Michael Jordan retired years ago and you guys keep coming out with shoes that are remakes. And so we, Gen X and baby boomers like, Oh my goodness. I remember having his shoe and the Lyles of the world is a lie. Michael, I don't, I don't get, I mean, it's not. Not disrespect to Michael Jordan, but the Lyles of the world are like, why are you guys paying that much money for that shoe? All right, buddy. We got to, we got to go. Yeah. Well, that's it. That's all the time we got. That was fun though. Today was a little more serious than some other days, but I enjoyed it. You almost got me with my dad. I did. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to, you're going to cry at that 50th birthday party. You are. Yeah. Yeah. You're crying now, just thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be hard to get through that speech. I love it. Gee, you're the best. Thank you. Go follow. Gee. Yeah. I'm going to be back with another friend, Stacy Ross, before we turn it over to you guys at 9 30, Brock and Salk Seattle sports on seven 10.