I Posted a Prayer Photo… Then Got Death Threats | Joshua Sarmiento | DSH #1841
61 min
•Feb 27, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Jordan Sarmiento discusses his journey from music industry to founding America First Healthcare, his near-fatal COVID hospitalization, and his recent trip to Israel where he gained firsthand perspective on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, geopolitical funding, and Qatar's influence on Western media and education.
Insights
- Building a values-aligned business attracts customers willing to pay premium prices for trust and shared ideology, as demonstrated by America First Healthcare's rapid growth to 25,000 clients in two years
- Reinvesting all profits into company growth and employee compensation creates sustainable scaling, while extracting profits early limits long-term potential and competitive advantage
- Geopolitical narratives are heavily shaped by foreign soft power through coordinated investment in media, education, sports, and social platforms rather than isolated media outlets
- First-hand experience and local conversations provide critical context missing from polarized media coverage, revealing nuance that social media activism often lacks
- The Israel-Palestine issue is being weaponized to divide the conservative movement, potentially undermining Republican unity heading into 2024 elections
Trends
Values-based business segmentation: Conservative consumers actively seeking alternatives to mainstream brands and service providersForeign soft power expansion: Qatar and similar actors investing billions in Western education, sports, and media infrastructure for long-term influenceIdeological polarization as political strategy: Divisive issues being amplified to fracture opposition coalitions rather than advance substantive policyCreator economy monetization through audience alignment: Influencers building loyal followings by explicitly representing political/cultural valuesHealth insurance market disruption: Direct-to-consumer health insurance agents leveraging political identity and trust relationshipsCOVID-era political awakening: Pandemic censorship and mandates driving mainstream figures into political commentary and activismInfluencer verification through travel and boots-on-ground reporting: Audience demand for first-hand accounts over media narrativesSports and entertainment as propaganda vectors: Coordinated use of stadium displays, celebrity endorsements, and entertainment platforms for geopolitical messaging
Topics
America First Healthcare business model and growth strategyCOVID-19 hospitalization experience and medical system critiqueIsrael-Palestine conflict and geopolitical fundingQatar's media influence and soft power strategyConservative movement division and internal conflictValues-based business and customer alignmentTime management and assistant hiring for entrepreneursPolitical awakening during COVID-19 pandemicVaccine mandate resistance and censorshipForeign aid allocation and military-industrial complexMedia propaganda and information warfareCollege campus activism and funding sourcesThird-world country comparisons and urban decaySports cards and collectibles investmentFaith and spiritual healing experiences
Companies
America First Healthcare
Guest's health insurance company founded after COVID hospitalization; scaled to 25,000 clients in 2 years with 100+ a...
Acquisition.com
Referenced as company where guest met Alex Shimozzi; known for sales and business training
Public Square
Conservative alternative marketplace founded during COVID; guest used their email list to launch America First Health...
Al Jazeera
Qatar-funded media organization spending $1B+ annually on propaganda and anti-Israel messaging globally
UnitedHealthcare
Major health insurance company that reached out to America First Healthcare to discuss partnership opportunities
Turning Point USA
Conservative student organization where guest spoke and contracted COVID-19 at event in July 2021
People
Joshua Sarmiento
Founder of America First Healthcare; former music industry professional turned health insurance entrepreneur and poli...
Alex Shimozzi
CEO of Acquisition.com; met with guest in Las Vegas; recently sold 3M+ books
Dan Martell
Author of 'Buy Back Your Time'; entrepreneur and podcast guest who influenced guest's business scaling philosophy
Mike Huckabee
Former Arkansas governor; spoke with guest at Israeli embassy about US-Israel funding and military technology partner...
Tucker Carlson
Political commentator; guest discussed his Israel criticism and questioned potential Qatar funding influence
Candace Owens
Conservative influencer; guest noted her recent shift on Israel policy alongside Tucker Carlson
Donald Trump
Former president; referenced for 'America First' messaging and proposed Iron Dome defense system
Andrew Cuomo
Former New York governor; criticized for vaccine promotion campaign using Shake Shack incentives
Michael Seifert
CEO of Public Square; provided email list of 100,000 conservative users to launch America First Healthcare
Quotes
"If you believe you're worth $250 an hour with how much you make, then why are you allowing yourself to do things that are a $15 to $20 an hour job?"
Joshua Sarmiento•Early in episode
"You have to be a little delusional if you're going to be an entrepreneur or CEO. You have to be."
Joshua Sarmiento•Mid-episode
"If you're going to question the funding for Israel, you also got to question the funding of the other countries like Egypt and Jordan."
Joshua Sarmiento•Israel discussion
"Free Palestine from Hamas. That's a real saying because Hamas is what has truly brought destruction."
Joshua Sarmiento•Gaza discussion
"People that say that America is a third world country haven't been to a third world country. Go to Rwanda."
Joshua Sarmiento•Closing segment
Full Transcript
I posted a picture of me praying at Shiloh, and I just literally had a couple hundred followers unfollowed, which was like, that was insane. Number one. Then number two, my DMs are filled effing traitor. You loving, I mean, like the craziest stuff. I mean, you should be dead. You should go into Gaza so they can blow you up there. And all I did was post an Instagram story of me praying at Shiloh. Okay, guys, we got Jordan from America First Healthcare here today. Hey, we've talked for a while now. We got a lot of mutuals. Nice to finally meet you, man. Dude, great meeting you, man. It's awesome to be here in Vegas in this. I left Florida from 95 degree weather to come to even a hot day. Oh, man. Summer's out here. Brutal. It's brutal, man. And Florida's like the humid weather, too. The wet heat. Yeah, it is. It is the wet heat. So now you get both types of heat. The dry heat. It was. You out here recruiting agents this week, or what are you doing out here? I'm meeting with Alex Shimozzi. Nice. And their entire team at Acquisition. I just met him two days ago. How was that? Amazing. Yeah. My friend owns a suit company. We dropped off a custom acquisition.com suit to him. Really? And because of the podcast, he recognized me. No way. So I was like, holy shit. Yeah, as soon as I walked in, he said, what's up? Yeah, I mean, he just broke like a huge record selling like three million plus books. I already finished the book. Oh, is it really good? It's on Audible. I haven't hit it yet. Fire. And I summarized it on ChatGT and learned a ton. Yeah. That dude's- I mean, 100 million offers changed my life. Really? That was the first book I read from him. I think it was his first book ever. and then 100 million leads was pretty good, but this one's really good too. Wow, yeah. The 100 million leads was an incredible book for me that helped really launch my company. Oh, yeah? Yeah, but then the book that's honestly changed my life in the last, I would say, six months is Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martel. Ooh, that's a good one too. Oh my goodness. Have you read it? Yeah, Dan's been on the show. Shout out to Dan. Yeah. He's a solid entrepreneur. Yeah, I'm actually meeting him next month going up to Canada to meet him. Oh, yeah. I heard he's doing serious dough these days. 20 million plus a year yeah no he's he's killing it and i mean i've learned so much on like how to buy back your time because like and well i'm sure we'll talk about this in a little bit when you when you're growing your company or growing in your industry whatever you end up doing like you you have to start figuring out ways to you know buy literally buy back your time yeah with hiring and you processes yeah with hire and you would you would think like it's so people know how to use an assistant and they really don't like because when you when you bring on an assistant And, you know, again, I always ask myself what I'm doing right now, whether it's responding to an email or whether it's going to meet the cleaning lady at my house. Am I doing it? How much am I worth an hour? Am I worth $20 an hour? Am I worth $250 an hour? And if I believe I'm worth $250 an hour with how much I make, then I need to realize why am I allowing myself to do things that are a $15 to $20 an hour job when I could be focusing on growing the company, which allows me to create more employees and more jobs and as well more revenue for the company. So it's one of the biggest, like you don't own your email, you don't own your calendar, your assistant owns that. And there's so many incredible teachings in that book that has just changed my life, changed my company and changed others around us. Yes, this is a tough hire, man. I'm on my eighth one and I'll take accountability for a lot of the previous ones. It was my fault. It's really hard to hire an assistant actually. It is. I mean, because you have to find someone that like they – you have to – I mean, what I've learned when it comes to hiring an assistant is you've got to show them the long end game. Right. And, you know, I actually just hired an executive assistant, a second one, literally this past week. And I'm like, listen, I want you to think of you are the CEO of these four things. And I gave her calendar. I gave her email. I gave her some financial type of stuff. And then as well some booking type of stuff for our podcast. and I'm like, I want you to create, but I want you to think like you're a CEO and you're creating all the systems in the process because six months to a year, two years from now, you might not be doing these things because I'm going to have you be creating in somewhere else. Your job is to be a problem solver in this department. And when you give them that vision for the long term, it's like, I'm working towards something. And also I'm not going to be answering emails for the rest of my life. And it's really hard to keep people that way when it's like, is this what I want to do forever? That was my issue, I think. And if you can kind of give them that, give them that token at the end of like, hey, when you do these things, there is growth and there's opportunity here. And we have massive vision and we want to be a billion dollar company. And if we are that five, 10 years from now, where do you think you are when right now we have only 15 W2 employees? So it's just been trying to keep the end in mind, which I always talk about with my staff. Your growth is pretty big right now though, right? 25,000 clients in two years? Yeah. 25,000 clients in two years. We launched, we just had our two year anniversary about four four months ago. We just moved into a 12,000 square foot building, which is literally- In LA? No, in Orlando. Okay. And we have a little over a hundred agents now nationwide. Jeez. And so it's just, I always tell the number one mistake that CEOs make when it comes to, when they start making profits and they start pulling profits and they take away the gasoline from the engine. Right. But it really comes down to like what your goal is. Because if you're two years in a business and right now we're bringing in two or three million dollars in revenue like you have a decision there's a fork in the road do I want to get to 10 to 15 million a year in revenue or do I want to stay where I'm at pull profits get the Lambo get the big houses and really just kind of like pull those profits and it really just comes down to like what is your end goal which is like the diamond that I got from seven habits of a highly effect leader which is like you have to think of the end in mind what is imagine like if imagine if you were wanting to build a home and you were a contractor and it's like you break ground but you don't know what the home's supposed to look like you don't know what roof you're getting you don't know where the rooms are and it's like so many people they start their business but they actually don't have true vision one two five years of what their goal is and what the business would actually look like if they actually hit all their goals and that's like one of the the biggest things that ceos make major mistakes and i've learned from mentors i've learned from other people um that have taught me that and it's just really give me a true perspective of you have to invest all your profits and, and getting your, like you want to get your, I tell, I tell my, my agents all the time, which obviously in sales, you know, and you, you know, this, I love the way that you, you do your editing, man. You incentivize people to, Hey, the, the better, the work, the more, the better work that you do, you are going to get rewarded for that. And when you incentivize people with your work, even W2 employees, that's something that Dan Martell talks about too, is give good KPIs for your W-2s and give them bonuses when they hit those metrics. And when you do that, and I tell my agents all the time who are 1099, I'm like, listen, you got to bleed to lead. If you want to break through that next ceiling, if you're making $100,000 a year and you want to get to $200,000 a year, you're going to have to dip in your income, hire some people to do things that you don't want to do anymore because you want to focus on these high productive activities, these high income activities. And it's just something that I've learned. And because of that, where I'm throwing all the profits back into it so my agent's making more money than me. Wow, that's what I'm doing too with the pod. Yep. No, that's how it's supposed to be, man. You're supposed to lead by example. And again, if you have a short-term mindset, like if you really do, if you're like, hey, I want to have a successful business. I want to make $150,000 a year. I'm okay with having a simple life. Then there's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes some of the personal development, gurus they you know kind of shame people for like you can do more and you can do more but like if you're crazy which like the fact that the amount of content that you put out i am crazy you're crazy like no you are you that you have there has to be a crazy person and you look at elon musk you look you look at the most incredible you know um businessmen in the country that we can look at in the or even in the world like the jeff bezos and you know the um bill gates These guys are pretty crazy. There's a crazy side to them that they would actually be willing to commit and do everything and sacrifice everything for some crazy goal. And if you want to make crazy money, you got to be crazy. You got to be a little delusional if you're going to be an entrepreneur or CEO. You have to be. Dude, being an entrepreneur is like the most – it's the hardest thing to do. It's one of the hardest professions. It is. Especially if you look at the stats. Yeah, 90% of them fail. Yeah, and then even out of the ones that do succeed, their salary is below 50K. Correct. No, your salary is below 50K. They end up going bankrupt then. A lot of them end up, you know, think about how many businesses, like the restaurant industry. I tell my agents all the time, like, you are able to get into a sales business. There's so many opportunities in the world where you can make so much money right now. And you can get into a sales business with a laptop or a phone and a piece of paper. And as long as you have those three things. I mean, you can literally make an unlimited amount of income than, and you want an unlimited amount of income as you may. And you think of like other businesses like restaurant industries, or you got to take a two, $300,000 loan, sometimes a million dollar loan out. You have to hire 40, 50 staff. Your payroll is God knows how much, you know, 40, 50 grand a month for your entire staff to hope to break even within a year or two years, if you're even lucky. right and then if you're not lucky you're you're claiming bankruptcy you're a couple hundred grand in the hole i've been close to that bro yeah not me too no me too like it's but again it takes those times of getting close to it and going through the fire of the reason why you are where you are today 100 like i've made it lost it all twice really yeah how long ago was that uh first one i was i think like young 20s and then the second one was four years ago wow when i first moved to vegas not that i yeah i know you're interviewing me but like what do you think is the one thing that switched for you when when it comes i was way too risky back then okay i was putting all my money in crypto i was putting all my money in the sports cards i was follow leading by emotion not logic i mean that's what you know sorry i got distracted because you said sports cards and i got it almost big sports yeah i'm in the hobby i bought too many modern cards i bought like john moran and zion and spent like six figures on those and that market got saturated zion i should have stuck with the OG cards. If I just stuck with that, I would have been up so much money. We talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead, but let's be real, the world feels shaky right now. AI is changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed, and at some point you realize no one's coming to save you. You've got to protect yourself, and one thing people forget about is life insurance. If you're new to it, you're not alone. That's why I checked out SelectQuote. They've been around for over 40 years and helped more than 2 million Americans find coverage that actually fits their life and budget. They compare policies from top-rated insurance companies and do the work for you for free. You can even get same-day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com.dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com.dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. 100%. Yeah, like Michael Jordan, like Kobe. Jordan, Kobe. I mean, obviously the Braun, Curry. Yeah. Yeah, I'm totally with you. And as well, you also have to know when to sell, when to flip them. That was my issue too. I never sold anything. Because if you would have sold Zion, even 40% from his hype, you probably would have doubled. I was up on most of them probably, but I just, yeah, never sold. Yeah, of course. It's a fun industry though. No, it's my legal way of gambling. It's like, hey, I'm not gambling anymore, even though I'm in Vegas right now. Don't gamble. But it's my one way. It's like I get to open up a pack. You do the breaks. Yeah, I've done breaks. I wanted to actually get into breaks. Dude, my buddy makes eight figures a year off breaks. Really? Yeah, in LA. Yeah. My selfish hobby that I want to do when my company is fully skilled and running is, and I know it's not a profitable business to be in, at least, I want to open up a card shop. Yeah, you make money through the breaks. We talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead. But let's be real. The world feels shaky right now. AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's coming to save you. You've got to protect yourself. And one thing people forget about is life insurance. If you're new to it, you're not alone. That's why I checked out SelectQuote. They've been around for over 40 years and helped more than 2 million Americans find coverage that actually fits their life and budget. They compare policies from top-rated insurance companies and do the work for you for free. You can even get same-day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com.dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com.dsh today to get started at selectquote.com.dsh. you know money through the sales correct 100 yeah but it's it's man you wouldn't believe some of these numbers these kids are making off breaks i know i'd spent too much dude i learned what whatnot was and my my wife is like you're on i mean till two three in the morning i'm just like i just i'm like i gotta get it the break it's it's the chicago bulls it'll be michael jordan you get it for it's 40 discounted right now and it's like they they hook you in and boom your 20 grand in. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. But dude, let's dive into politics a little bit, because that's how we met, right? They were political friends. Shout out to Emily. I think you sponsored some of her stuff. Yeah, Emily, Xavier. I've seen some of them on the show. We have like six or seven different influencers. Yeah. When did you start diving into politics? So man, I dove into politics because of COVID. And I think a lot of influencers kind of came out of COVID. Same. Yeah, that's when I got into it. Yeah. I just had to speak up, dude. The censorship was crazy and that it was the hardest time to speak up yeah you couldn't like you really couldn't you felt like you're i mean you're you're you got mouth tape over your mouth and you can't really speak and you know the truth and it was like it was the most fresh like the most beautiful and most frustrating two years of your of my life yeah um because i worked in the music industry and my entire life and i like politics and health insurance and marketing business this was something that I never thought I would. I mean, if you told me that Jordan in your thirties, you're going to be selling health insurance, I would have laughed in your face. Like I was the guy that I've been playing music and keys since I was 15. I went to music school. Then I went to an EDM school, DJ school in Los Angeles, moved to Hollywood, lived out there for nine years. And, and, you know, if you're working in the entertainment industry, it's very hard to make a six figure income. Like you have to build relationships, work your ass off. I mean, you are doing gigs. I mean, I was traveling 25 days out of the month just to make ends meet paying three grand a month for a crappy, you know, one bedroom apartment in North Hollywood and COVID happens. And immediately I watch my entire six figure income disappear in about three days. And for the first time in my life, I was on unemployment. And that was like the bit, it was a big reckoning of like, man, I have no control of my finances right now. And then, you know, from that, obviously you have a lot of people that from COVID over those next six months, some people took it to vacation and some people took it to study. And I, that's when I really took it. I started studying what was going on with our health and the government and politics. And it was the first, I didn't really, I wasn't really interested in politics. I mean, I was interested, but I wasn't not enough to actually speak out about it. Yeah. And then I'll, I'll never forget when LA brought that mandate for the vaccine. And I remember the news, I seen the tweets, It's like, you can no longer go in a pizza restaurant, a coffee shop, you can no longer go into places indoors in LA County without proving that you have a Pfizer vaccine card. One of my buddies comes over and he said, hey let go grab some lunch of cheesecake in Beverly I like I don think I gonna get in bro He like I don think so And he goes I got a fake card for you And I like no I like Christian I am not in the United States of America going to fake my way into a restaurant because I can't prove that the government has power over my bloodstream. Like it's not happening, but if they kick me out, I'm walking out. I'm just, I'm not doing it. And so we went to get lunch. Long story short, I get kicked out of the Cheesecake Factory. I record it. The video goes and ends up going viral. Wow. But that was like the first step of like, holy crap, what is happening? And that was like my opening for real where that is where I got my boldness and my faith to like truly speak out because I was scared to death to speak out. Because if anyone knew that I was a Trump supporter, God forbid. In L.A. In L.A. In the music industry. And my innocent self back in 2016, not knowing anything, you know, posted a picture of me wearing a MAGA hat. And again, I'm completely oblivious to the politics of this. And I truly learned what cancer culture was. One of the artists, I won't say her name because you guys will know she is. I used to play keys for her. And her manager gave me a call right after she saw that picture and was like, hey, you can't play for us anymore. Just from a MAGA hat? Just from wearing a MAGA hat. Holy crap. Yeah, and that was about 30 grand a year from one of my five gigs that I had. But that's when I truly experienced cancer culture. So I had PTSD. I will never post again about politics. It's not worth it. I've given my entire life to this. But then COVID was that defining moment where it's like, no, this is bigger. I'm willing to risk it all. And I started talking about what's going on in the country. I started studying the medical industry, what's going on with the vaccine. I mean, do you remember when the governor started pushing the vaccine and the New York governor, Cuomo, he did a press conference. I'm not going to forget this. And he's doing a big push for the vaccine. And he has a Shake Shack burger and these Shake Shack French fries. sitting in front of his mic and he's like guys we've made a partnership with with uh shake shack and if you just for the next three days if you guys go and get your vaccine like he's talking it like we're like five years old if you guys go get your vaccine this week you're gonna get a free burger and a free shake from shake shack and i'm watching this like i'm watching a movie like this is a production set there's no way this is like real life and he you know let's see how it tastes am i i'm literally doing exactly what he did he grabs a cheeseburger he's like vaccination that this tastes so good right let's see what the french fries taste like like like we're watching a youtube five-year-old series like adults were like oh i'm gonna go get my vaccine but sadly people did. People did. Older people usually, but yeah, people did. And what blows my mind is some people still defend it to this day. To this day. I'm like, are you serious? There's been so many documented like evidence now at this point. I mean, like I could get it like two, three years ago. A lot of us were on the fence, right? I mean, some people knew quick, but most people were like, I don't know about it. Yeah. No, I think if the, if there are people that still believe that today, it's, it really is like the, it's just a loud minority. That's some programming. at that point. Yeah, it's some serious program that, I mean, which again, they programmed the shit out of us, dude. I almost got it. I was probably like a couple weeks away. Really? Yeah. Well, like, because to travel, dude, like for our lifestyle, to fly at the time you needed it, right? Yeah. No, yeah. That was a scary thing, especially internationally. And I remember there was a couple trips I wanted to go on and I couldn't. Yeah. And it's just crazy to think. Yeah, Biden brought that in too. He's like, you can't come into the United States unless you have the vaccination. Like, I forgot about that. That is wild. A lot of countries did that. That is literally insane. Yeah. And that whole three-year journey was nuts. And that really launched in my political journey. And then obviously led to America First Healthcare, which hence the name. You kind of know that my company is pretty damn conservative. Yeah. And speaking of America First, that's like a big movement right now, right? Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. I'll never forget. I was, I was when I created this big following online and social media and I'm like, I, what do I want to do? Like I've been, cause I actually launched a Instagram live show and that's really how I built my following. And so I, for every Monday through Friday, five nights a week for an entire year straight, I never miss one night, 9 PM. And I would book three influencers and, um, and we would have an hour, I would prepare an entire hour dialogue and I would, we would talk about the trending topics. And from that, like obviously when you bring other people with bigger followings online, their audience is seeing you. And that's how my audience grew, like 40,000 followers within three or four months. And then as this community kind of came around, like what do I want to do and how do I want to, number one, serve the people that are following me without being a sellout. And then number two, what's something that I actually want to do? And I've always loved sales. um but my story i actually ended up getting covid and i was hospitalized almost died geez yeah it was a that's a whole crazy story second wave okay it was the delta first wave almost wiped me out oh really yeah oh yeah yeah i was fucked i got like pneumonia i still have like a lung cyst right now from that really yeah from all the antibiotics and everything wow yeah no i i held out i actually i actually got it at turning point oh yeah at sass oh shit in july 2021 i went to because i was speaking at one of the breakouts, did that turning point event, came back home. And I like, I got sick. I'm like, I'm gonna ride this thing out. And that thing that pissed me off the most, bro, was I was trying to get ivermectin and I could not get a doctor to prescribe me. I literally had one doctor say, I can't prescribe this to you because I will lose my license. So you knew the solution, but you couldn't get it. I knew right away. I knew the solution. I called three doctors. They couldn't get it to me. So I had a call. I found a connect through, um, one of the freedom doctors and she connected with a doctor in Chicago and that doctor was willing to write me this prescription. By that point, it was like day five, day six. And you have to take those doses of ivermectin in the first three days for it to actually take an effect. And that thing hit me so hard. I'll never forget. It was like day five and I was fighting this thing out and I tried to go to the bathroom and I fell down and collapsed to the floor. Holy crap. And I literally, cause I could not breathe, literally couldn't breathe. And then my dad found me on the bathroom. I was like trying to scream for my dad, but every time I would talk, I literally- We talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead, but let's be real, the world feels shaky right now. AI's changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed, and at some point, you realize no one's coming to save you. You've got to protect yourself, and one thing people forget about is life insurance. If you're new to it, you're not alone. That's why I checked out SelectQuote. They've been around for over 40 years and helped more than 2 million Americans find coverage that actually fits their life and budget. They compare policies from top-rated insurance companies and do the work for you for free. You can even get same-day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. the lungs kept caving in. Oh my God. So my dad found me on the floor. He's like, I got to take you to the emergency room. He takes me in the emergency room. And I was there for seven days. And the third night, dude, I thought I was going to die. Jeez. I was one, I was one notch away from going on to a ventilator. I don't mean to get spiritual, man, but like I had a crazy encounter with Jesus. Really? Yeah. So you were hallucinating. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I didn't actually, no, I didn't see him visually, but no, I was so jacked up. They put, they're either pumping me with med, number one, they're pumping pumping you with meds number two you're oh like insanely over emotional yeah um because like the question for the first time in my life is am i going to die like that that's a thought that again we know about that one day but like in your 20s is different yeah like you when like am i going to die tonight and then on top of that the psychological thing that goes on when like your family and your parents can't be in the room yeah and so like they put i mean they just honestly it would the the policy that put in place and the guidelines was like made for people to die and yeah the ventilator i think if you got on that you were toast i know and i remember i was like do not give me a ventilator i get do not give me the ventilator and then they the doctor comes in and is like so you want to know why literally you want to know why you got this right and i'm like why he's like because you're not vaccinated like hello doctor thank you for making me the first thing he said and he goes so we're gonna we're gonna give you the medication that we gave trump um and that's what made him better find out it's remdesivir oh and remdesivir actually gave me uh my kidney or liver i had damage from that which is a whole nother story um but yeah then i will never forget the fifth night man or yeah there's a fifth night i get a phone call from this lady i haven't talked to in like years older lady too and she goes jordan i just saw your social media posts, gather your faith because tonight the Lord is going to heal you. And, you know, I've, I was raised in a very evangelical Christian home. I've seen healings before I've gone on missions trips and I've seen like the power of God work in places that, you know, honestly does not work in the States. And I don't, whether it's a lack of faith, why, but I've seen incredible healings. I wasn't planning on talking this, but incredible healings happened. And I, that faith and that faith in me arose and i i played this song by an artist named brandon lake and when i listened that song dude i felt the most insane presence like enter the room and i'm like bawling my eyes out and i'm like i'm going to be healed and literally bro the next morning i wake up there's no bs like my friends that know me they know that i'm a real one like next morning completely healed holy like i could not that night before they had to bring me a like a portable potty because i could not walk to the bathroom without not being able to breathe. And so that night before I was using a portable potty, I wake up the next morning, six or seven hours later, my lungs are completely healed. I wake up and I'm like, literally I can breathe. Oh my goodness. I pull out the tubes. I can breathe. I stand up. I walk to the bathroom. Everything is back to normal within literally, I mean, six or seven hours of sleep. And that was like my rededication to my faith in a whole new way, man i bet yeah that would change anyone i think of course holy crap because you were like possibly minutes hours away from dying yeah no yeah no literally i mean i i didn't i did not know and that question is something that i you never want to go down that road but anyways from that experience i learned about the medical industry i got stuck with a hundred thousand dollar medical bill um did not know did you have insurance um i i did have insurance but it was an insurance that did not like and that actually would not want to did not want to cover it any of it uh no hardly any of holy crap that was the reason why i actually got into health insurance well i'd imagine on their end at the time they were dealing with so many claims well there's a there's a lot of bad health shares out there there's something called health share and and i'm not going to get into nitty-gritty of it but health share is another type of of it's an alternative for health insurance um and you know again they wanted to claim whether they went bankrupt or they claimed pre-existing they weren't getting back to claims and i wasn't get stuck with this bill and i'll never forget you know i i'm i the the hospital i stayed at was a non-profit and why and actually i'll talk about some hacks in health insurance later yeah but because i went to a non-profit and i was unemployed at the time this non-profit waived my entire hundred thousand dollar medical bill what literally and that that caused me to like i'm like okay there's how does this building system work like the health this health share filled me when it comes to um the private health insurance space like like what is the difference of government insurance and how do they do these buildings how do they get a hundred ten thousand dollar bill for me being there for six days and that really kind of like pushed me to like learn about the private health insurance industry and then hence that's literally how i launched america first health care interesting i launched about six months later had 500 appointments get booked and literally my first launch of after two days. Holy crap. So there's a big need for this. Oh, huge need. People want to work with people that they align with. You know, I was literally four or five weeks ago, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare shoots us an email and says, hey, we are not him, but his assistant. Hey, we want to fly you guys out to see what you guys are doing. Because we use some of their products for our plans. And he shows me this. They first show us before we give them our pitch deck. they have us watch like their pitch deck videos like a video a promo of what they do and in one of the clips it's a black girl and she's like you know I you know I love United Healthcare because I get to work with other people and I want to work with doctors that look like me and talk like me so that I feel more comfortable with my medical and and after they you know after they finished that video it was like the perfect transition because I'm like you know that clip with that lady when she was saying that she wants to work with people that look like her, that talk like her. That is why our company is blowing up right now because people want to work with people who align with their values. And at the end of the day, if I have to get health insurance for, to protect myself from bankruptcy or to go see a doctor, if I have to, and I have two options, one person that aligns with my values, which I probably trust more, I'm going to have more chemistry with, I'm going to choose that person, even if it's the same price or maybe if it's even 5% or 10% more because people work with people that they can trust and they align with and have that relationship. I agree. That's everything these days. And that's really why it blew up. Yeah, because when it's something like health insurance, that's a very emotional purchase. That could make or break your life. And I learned that from Public Square. Public Square. Michael Seifert, he's the company of Public Square. Public Square was actually a company that I would use in Los Angeles to find a restaurant outside. It basically became like the conservative Yelp. and you would go on Public Square during the COVID times to try to find a restaurant that wouldn't discriminate you based off of their mainstream. Yeah, that's literally how Public Square got launched. Now it's a whole marketplace and Donald Trump Jr. is invested in it and they just went public. It's completely blown up. But I reached out to the CEO of Michael. I'm like, hey, I need an email list. What would you charge me? I want to test something out. He's like, I'll charge you two grand and you can have our email list of 100,000 people. Damn, that's a good deal. Yeah, no, it was a great deal. but they were also brand new back in the day. They weren't, you know, they were still probably still looking for funding at the time. Now they're, yeah, they would, they would try to be 10 grand for that. Um, sent out. And I literally, I was like, what am I going to call this? What am I going to do? And I'm watching Trump speak it. And he's like, America first, America first. I'm like, America first healthcare. Okay. Let's just, let's just try this out. And I didn't, I just, I didn't have the domain yet. I didn't have all the, the CRM set up yet. And I literally just, you know, put kick the government out with america first healthcare and they sent out that email it was like 550 appointments over two to three days jeez and so then i freaking hired four or five agents there and from there we scaled that's nuts yeah that's so nuts uh yeah man so america first do you think you could be america first while being pro-israel man so i i just came back from israel which man Israel is such a tough conversation right now because my god I never it feels like right now the amount of media on both sides that are going towards this topic of Israel it kind of feels like the 2016 when Trump like first ran for office like it's really divided it's it is number one it's it's so divided and it's the most it's I mean it's like it feel like vaccine type of polarization. Yeah. It's like, if you are not on our side, we will chop off your head and it doesn matter if we agree with 95 of everything else And growing up when it comes to Israel being raised as a Christian you raised from a young age to you support Israel, it says in the Bible. But again, I've always been someone that always questions their beliefs. And at the Turning Point event this past summer, when David Smith—I don't know if you were there. I saw the debate, yeah. Yeah, David Smith, he debated, I forget, some other- Josh Hammer? Yeah, Josh Hammer. And David Smith destroyed him. It was just not even close. And after listening to that conversation, because I was already starting to start leaning towards, man, Israel is effed up. This is literally insane. And then you hear about the funding. It's like, yeah, why the hell are we sending $3 billion over to Israel to fund someone else's war? Like they got money. The Jews are rich. Like why, why are they, why, why do we have to pay for their war? And they're real valid questions. Um, so then one week after I go to that trip, I get a text message from a buddy of mine and he goes, yo, we actually had a cancellation. You got a spot. I don't know if you want to come, but we will pay for your flight and we'll pay for your hotel to come out to Israel. And I said yes to it. And for me, the reason why I wanted to go to Israel is because I wanted to see where Jesus walked. Like that was, I mean, I personally, like the Israel thing, whatever. I don't really care too much about the debate. I honestly also didn't really know what was going on at Gaza at the time. I knew that there was bombings, but I'm like, that's war. It's just part of war. It sucks. And I wanted to see like the, see where Jesus walked and see the Old Testament come to life. But from that, like, I mean, they took us to so many different places. and there was about four days worth of history about the Bible and Jesus. And there was two days where they showed us, like obviously there are a lot more pro-Israel and they're gonna show us. I mean, we went to one of the army bases right on the Gaza Strip. We went to the October 7th sites. We learned a little bit more about the history of Israel from obviously the Israeli perspective. But the thing that really spoke to me was when we went to the embassy and I spoke with Mike Huckabee and I talked to him for about an hour. and I asked him I'm like listen number one I'm getting I just posted an Instagram story of me being at Shiloh which is where you know Samuel uh is is living for his entire life until he goes and anoints David as king I posted a picture of me praying at Shiloh and I just literally had you know number one like a couple hundred unfollow a couple hundred followers unfollow yeah which was like that that was insane number one the number two my DMs are filled effing traitor you loving that i mean like the craziest stuff i mean you should be dead you should go into gaza so they can blow you up there i mean like the craziest stuff and all i did was post an instagram story of me praying at shiloh and i'm like man we're now at the place now and this is so divisive that if you just go to the country which i mean again if that was the case for the last 30 years i would not be able to live in america because we were the the capital of war and we were the capital of corruption and we funded wars all over the entire world and we know about this. But then from what Mike Huckabee told me, he's like, you know, I said, hey, Mike, I was like, a lot of us, we're losing jobs. We are taking a lot of heat for just being here. Everyone thinks that we're now Israel spies and we're getting paid off. Like, what is going on in Gaza? Like, why the heck are we sending, and I asked him, why are we sending 3.8 or $3.2 billion for Israel for their war. And he gave me some four or five good points. Now, for the critics out there, you guys are like, oh, this guy is coming here giving Israel talking points. That's what they're thinking. But he came out and said, number one, you don't realize that, yes, with the $3 billion that we give towards Israel when it comes to their funding, that is going to, number one, it's coming right back to, it's coming back to the United States when it comes to, obviously, our military industrial complex. They're buying our missiles. But the thing that actually caught my attention more than anything was that they're actually the beta tester for the Iron Dome that we are actually about to create. Oh, we're creating one in America? Well, Trump's been talking about it. And Mike Huckabee talked about it a little bit. He's like, think about this. They have an Iron Dome. That's our technology. We actually co-founded it with them. and when the iron dome messes up that data and that intelligence is coming straight back to us and i actually know that the iron dome actually didn't work 30 days ago because i went to they took us to one street where when iran's was sending all those missiles about a month ago i can show you the videos there's like a whole strip of homes and like a grocery store like honestly looks like it looks like a strip of gaza honestly it's completely obliterated one of my friends, her apartment complex was two blocks down from it. Holy crap. Two blocks down, her windows were completely shattered from just the, what's the word? The blast. Yeah, from the blast from that actual missile. And that's from two blocks. We talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead. But let's be real, the world feels shaky right now. AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's coming to save you. You've got to protect yourself. And one thing people forget about is life insurance. If you're new to it, you're not alone. That's why I checked out SelectQuote. They've been around for over 40 years and helped more than 2 million Americans find coverage that actually fits their life and budget. They compare policies from top-rated insurance companies and do the work for you for free. You can even get same-day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. So, I mean, again, he's like, number one, like, yes, we are beta testing their intelligence and what they're using for their defense system because we want to bring that here. to protect Americans. Number two, like again, the data that we get and the intelligence that we get when it comes to not, when it comes to not having our own boots on the ground is one of the most valuable things. And he goes, think about it. We don't, in one of the most craziest places for war, we have bases in South Korea. We have bases all over, we have bases, I believe in Qatar as well. Like we have bases all over the world, but we don't have to have a base in Israel. We don't have to have boots on the ground in the middle of an area where they do say death to America. and with that Israel you know I won't say it this way but he said it in a nice way basically what he said was Israel does our dirty work for us and we do get that money back but I also think like if you're going to question that you also have to kind of question like people don't realize I mean there is a big double standard I mean we've given like 60 70 billion dollars over the last 20 years to Egypt I didn't know that one border there's that the east side of Israel the north side of Israel I thought it was in Africa. No, Egypt is on the border of Israel. Oh, okay. And then we also give $1.6, $1.8 billion to Jordan, which is right on the border of Israel. Jeez, that's a lot. And so, again, to me, it's like if you're going to question about the funding for Israel, you also got to question the funding of the other countries. Fair point. And again, I think there are cases for both sides. I mean, if I'm taking the 100% all pro-America, America first, and you're taking national security out of it, I'm saying, well, yeah, what could we do with that $3 billion in broken down communities and here in the States? 100%. but as well again we let our emotions take over and when we see a bunch of propaganda or we see or we see what's going on in gaza which which a lot of it obviously is real um and we allow our emotions from there and we're just so short-sighted with actually what the bigger picture is and we and everyone acts like they know what's going on with their foreign policy and i don't know what the hell i'm talking about like my entire opinion is coming from being me being there once for seven days. But if you want to know, you go. It makes you wonder how much of what we see on social media is propaganda. A hundred percent. Oh no. I mean, we saw that. We saw that like, okay. So this, this is like one of my biggest frustrations right now with the right. The right knows the propaganda that we went through when 2016, when we decided to vote for Trump, like 90, like talk about propaganda. Like the U S is the capital of the world for propaganda. I mean, we want, we live through it. We went through it over the last, the last 10 years. Just if you wanted to say that you were a Trump supporter, you know, right now, now it's like, it's cool to be a Trump supporter, but back in 2016, dude, like you were scared to wear a MAGA hat. You were scared to let people know. I was embarrassed to let people know who I was voting for because every single day, all day for years and years and years, all you're seeing is Trump is racist. Think of, remember all the videos that you saw when you would you would see MAGA people and you know obviously racist hillbilly certain I want to say hillbilly but racist type of people and they are you know you see the video of them beating up a black dude and then like that is now the brand for the entire movement of America first that oh look all a MAGA is racist because this one dude you know you see a clip of a white guy with a MAGA hat beating up a black dude or the Charleston thing with Trump when they're like you know there's good people on both sides and they took that clip which was obviously false like and that's what makes me most frustrated is like you have so many conservatives that are that are just like automatically falling in line for whatever the media is saying it's like number one first of all do you trust the media number two where is the media coming from is this is this are we talking about cnn bbc msnbc let alone qatar like qatar is one of the leading propaganda media organizations in the world. And it's more than just a media organization. It's like a soft power tool is what they would call it because it's way more than just media. And it's spread towards social media too. It's not just traditional media that's being taken over and programmed. Well, it's not even just social media and media. It's also sports. And one person that, oh man, I spoke to so many locals because like my mission when I got to Israel, I was like, number one, I don't know who's you know and by the way I paid about two thousand dollars to go there they did pay part of my flight they made part of my hotel but I did pay about two grand I for because I want to go on a different flight and they weren't going to pay for it so like number and number two I lost about eight days worth of work which is a lot of money for me when if I'm going to take time off and so number one I want to see the days of Jesus but the number two like I wanted to talk to the locals because I don't care what anyone from the staff says. I don't care what the media says. I don't care what Tucker Carlson says or Candace Owens. Like, have you been there? Have you talked to the locals? And you know that if you really want to know and find out what's going on, you got to be boots on the ground and find out those conversations. Go to the source. And that's what, and that's what I did. And I talked to so many, had so many conversations with locals. And, you know, if I posted one, the critics would say, Oh, that was a plant from one of the Israeli government. It's like, no, that was, I, we went in the western bank we went by Gaza we went into Jerusalem which is actually where there's Christians Muslims, Armenians, Arabs all of them all living and working together in peace which was the biggest mind twist for me being in Israel it's like man there's 2 million Arabs that live in Israel and they're actually for majority of them are for Israel being in power why? Because it's the only country in the Middle East that's actually a free country and a democracy that is not underneath the jihad. And the Arabs will say that. Now I will say, I kind of compare the Arabs if the best way I can in an American way, I compare the Arabs to like the BLM back in 2016, where it's like, they are not happy with the government. They don't have a lot of representation. There is a lot of discrimination, obviously. Is there racism? Sure. But they are way more happier to live in Israel than to live in Syria, Libya, let jordan egypt any of those places because they have they get to run their own businesses and it's a democracy yeah they start off with good intentions with blm at first and then money got in the way 100 and and like the up the other the other biggest double standard that i learned was and bro look this up egypt yeah back in 2020 think of trump's wall but on steroids it's like 30 meters high it's it's two times higher the size of trump's wall with barbed wire on both sides and that entire wall goes all the way to the beach on Gaza's border. And Egypt will not allow anyone from Gaza to come over to Egypt. And actually, the Palestinian told me this, one of the Palestinian locals. I was like, what is your biggest issue when it comes to the border? It's like, well, number one, my biggest issue is actually Egypt because yes, Israel should open up the borders and let people out. And yes, they should send in more humanitarian aid. Yes, they've screwed up in 10 different ways, and I can't stand Israel for that. But who's not getting enough flack is Egypt because Egypt won't let anyone in. Syria doesn't want them. Egypt doesn't want them. And so then now the Gazans have to come to Israel because it's the actual only border that will actually bring in humanitarian aid. It's the only war. It's like – it's crazy. if you really think about this from a bird's eye view, it's the only war that the country that they're, in the war that they're fighting, one country is actually sending in humanitarian aid and money and food and allowing money from Qatar to go through their own border to then strengthen Hamas because we all know that Hamas, I mean, and again, this is widely reported. Go look it up. Hamas is stealing majority of the aid that's coming in. They're then reselling it, taxing it 15 to 20%. They're stealing 90% of all the food that's coming in. And they're making hundreds of millions of dollars a month on specifically the aid that is coming. And what does that do? That strengthens Hamas, allows them to recruit more, allows them to pay more people to then become a Hamas soldier. Because the majority of these soldiers are kids. They're teenagers. They're also dads. That they're forced to be a part of this regime because if not, they will get killed. And yes, does Israel deserve criticism? 100%. but you can't criticize Israel and not criticize Hamas because, and it's so hard for me to hear people say that free Palestine from Israel. It's like free Palestine from Hamas like that. It's a real saying because Hamas is the, what has truly brought destruction even before October 7th in this entire bombing. I mean, Hamas took over the entire Palestinian government through them off roofs, roofs, killed them and they took over. And you know, there's, I, I literally, when I got back, I started looking up influencers in Palestine or Gaza. And I found a ton of them. And I found this one guy that now lives in Germany who was actually arrested and beaten by Hamas because he led a protest back in 2019. He got arrested, he got beaten, he got tortured. They finally allowed him to escape like a year later. And now he lives in Germany. He's like, I'm getting the hell out of here. And after October 7th, he started speaking up. And yes, does he like Israel? No. Does he have beef with Israel? Yes. But he's like, you cannot hate Israel and not love Hamas because it literally makes zero sense because Hamas is actually the reason why that strips, that city of Gaza, which used to be beautiful, and it was actually growing, and there was restaurants, and it was starting to get very innovative, and the beaches were beautiful, and people would actually go there. Now, it's been absolutely destroyed because Hamas took over and took it by force, and now, and if you would protest against the government, you would be killed or you'd be brutally beaten. Wow, that's nuts. I wonder what Qatar angle is with funding Hamas Like have you looked into that I looked into a little bit So one person I got to meet which was probably my most one of my favorite conversations was with a Palestinian Arab that has lived in Israel for 40 years. Or no, I'm sorry, not 40 years, his entire life. So he's gone through the entire thing. And he was actually one of like the, I interviewed 10 different locals that, that were Arabs and eight of them were like, it was pretty common. Like we don't like Israel. We don't like the government, but we rather live in Israel than obviously outside, you know, in another country. Um, there was one that I was like, honestly, nervous that he was going to kill us. Definitely an extremist. 100%. Like in the only reason why I felt semi safe was because we were around police and that was actually close to the Western wall in Jerusalem. But there was one person that we got to speak with for about 45 minutes, and he was actually a journalist, world-renowned journalist in the Middle East. And he actually has interviewed Hamas many times. Hamas used to bring him in. This is before October 7th. And he really broke down how Qatar really works and the purpose of Qatar, which was really interesting. So Qatar hates Israel, but Qatar does not want to do the dirty work. You can kind of say that, you know, kind of how is U.S. having Israel doing the dirty work essentially. And Qatar basically funds it with media and propaganda. And the purpose of their media is to, number one, yes, they can't stand Israel, but they do not want to get their hands dirty. Plus, they're also trying to befriend the United States. So the goal of Qatar is to basically look like we are the modern era of Islam and we are the nice ones and they want to have this prolific reputation. but Al Jazeera which is like the name of their main media organization there's no question like it is very pro Hamas it is very anti Israel and they use their funds and they spend I mean they spend over a billion dollars a year on media and propaganda and one thing that he mentioned he goes you think that it's just social media you think that it's just media you think we talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead but let's be real the world feels shaky right now AI is changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed, and at some point you realize no one's coming to save you. You've got to protect yourself, and one thing people forget about is life insurance. If you're new to it, you're not alone. That's why I checked out SelectQuote. They've been around for over 40 years and helped more than 2 million Americans find coverage that actually fits their life and budget. They compare policies from top-rated insurance companies and do the work for you for free. You can even get same-day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. That is just videos online and, you know, the video clips from Gaza, but it's way more than that. It's the education system. He said, do you not know that over $500 million last year, Qatar spent, Al Jazeera spent on lobbying schools and universities in the United States? Really? Which is the reason why college campuses, I mean, why do you think out of nowhere, boom, the entire, every college campus in the U.S. is screaming pro-Palestine? Like, they don't even know where Palestine is on the map. Yeah, that's true. And now, like, they turn into these big pro-Palestine activists. Like, what happened to BLM? what happened to all these other organizations in the pro-choice movement everything has switched over to Palestine we're hearing all these stories right now of people getting paid for protesting and we're seeing the same people at 20 different type of protests because they're getting paid for it and so but the other thing he mentioned he goes think of the sports games he goes you ever see these European soccer games in stadiums of 100,000 people and then out of nowhere you see this massive big flag that says free Palestine that's Qatar in Europe no one is going to a soccer game that is a part if you read their actual their plans it's not just about media, it's social media it's media, it's sports, it's universities it's schools, it's education it's way more than just media and I'm like man, Qatar is very powerful it's a lifestyle for them which Israel hates by the way one thing that Israel is not happy with the US and Trump specifically is our relationship with Qatar. Because Trump has made some deals with them. But again, they're like, we know Trump's a businessman. But again, it's a big slap in the face to the Israelis. That's good to know. Yeah, it makes you wonder who in our political commentary space is potentially working with Qatar, right? I mean, we've heard stories and rumors. And again, I don't want to spread rumors because I have not really researched it. But again, you do see pictures of Tucker Carlson and Qatar. And you have to question. And it's like, and I agree with what Tucker says a lot. Like when Tucker spoke at SAS at the student action summit at Turning Point, and he was like, it does not make me an anti-Semite to criticize just because I criticize the Israeli government. Because if that's the case, then I'm anti-American for criticizing the American government for the last, for since I've been born. And I agree with him on that 100%. Like, and are there things that you can criticize about the Israeli government? Yes. like should they have blocked up blocked the humanitarian aid yes are there reasons for it that are probably valid yes again I'm not there I don't know the issues but when you start seeing like Tucker Carlson Candace Owens and all of these humongous figures out of nowhere just like flip the script like in a major way and then they're also visiting and they're going there like you have to ask are they being funded I don't know like do I think Tucker's being funded no I hope he's not being bought. That would honestly be depressing because he's one of my, he is one of my favorite commentators to listen to. But like, you do have to ask the question, like what ended up happening and how there's such, I mean, if I was the left, I am so happy right now because I've literally divided the entire MAGA movement. And the biggest critics of me going to Israel was not the left. It was the right. and friends, like I, I literally saw a post that went that by, by a pretty prolific influencer. And I just heard, I just found out that there was a group of influencers going to Israel. And, um, I just received the itinerary that they have. They're being bought and paid for and dah, dah, dah, dah. And over the next couple of weeks, we're going to be exposing these influencers and we're going to be exposing who they are. And, um, you know, and that you cannot be America first. and that if they're not with us, they're against us. And I shot a DM to this person. I was like, bro, I've known you for three years. We have done podcast after podcast together. We've had incredible conversations. We fought through COVID. We fought through the vaccines. We fought through 2016 rocking MAGA hats when it wasn't cool. And we agree on 99% of everything. But there's this one issue that is literally completely dividing the entire Republican MAGA base. And it's over $3 billion. And to me, if you don't ask yourself questions of like, is there a bigger power that is using this catastrophe that is happening in Gaza, that is real, to divide the right and the strength of the Republican Party, then I question your ability to really think and have a true bird's eye view of what's going on politically in this country. Yeah, a lot of infighting on the right right now. Oh, it's insane, bro. At this point, we're going to lose 28. Yeah. No, I mean, if Israel comes down to the foundation of our vote and we become a one-party voter like many on the left are, if we become that, yeah, we are going to lose in 2021. Yeah, there's no question. There'll be no unison. It's working. It's working. And I can say that confidently, and I'm not being an Israeli sympathizer. like the reality is is someone is pulling some strings to now within six months or a year we are at each other's next we were not talking about israel a year ago we weren't talking about israel for the last eight years when biden was in office and trump was in office and and now trump back like now trump gets in office and boom it's like the light switch turned on hundreds of millions of are going somewhere that is on. And again, what they're investing their money in is not necessarily fake. The truth is actually what it is, but they're using this chaos and they're using this destruction to really destroy the Republican Party. Yeah, for sure. That's sad. Anything else you want to close off with on Israel or you want to move on from that topic? Man. No, I mean, I think, I mean, outside of, I mean if you're a Christian you gotta go to Israel I wanna do some interviews with Israel leadership or something influencers out there get their perspective I've met so many of them are there like podcast creators out there and content creators oh there's a ton there's a ton of them they'll give you I mean again like I said I spoke with Arabs I spoke with Israelis I spoke with Palestinians and yeah and the thing is this is the biggest misconception is that the people of Israel they don't hate the people of Palestine and at all. Like they're heartbroken of it. It's the same way like you look at Americans, right? And you look at the U.S. And what view does the Middle East have of the U.S. and the people there? They probably think like death to America and they think all of these things that we are these horrible people that are sending bombs and we're celebrating and laughing at their demise. But that's actually not the case. That was one of the most shocking things I saw when I was in Israel is that the Israelis and the Arabic's number one that live in Israel, they all get along. They're not best friends, but they get along. They respect each other. I mean, go to where the Temple Mount is. The Muslims actually control the Temple Mount, which is one of the holiest sites for Islam and one of the holiest sites for Christians because that's where the Ark of the Covenant and the Tabernacle of David was. And Israel, in peace, said, hey, you guys can run this, even though a lot of people still disagree. That's a very controversial topic. But the people in Israel, like they feel horrible for what's going on. But I mean, I learned a lot of crazy stuff also at the military base and as well from some of these journalists that what's going on in Gaza, that does show another side of what's happening and how Hamas uses propaganda and Qatar is using the propaganda for it to hurt Israel and its view from the West. Yeah. We'll end off with this one. You've traveled around the world. How many countries have you been to? Do you know? Probably 30 plus. Over 30? Yeah. So you've been to third world countries. Do you think America is becoming a third world country? Yeah. People that say that America is a third world country haven't been to a third world country. Go to Rwanda. I mean, when I went to Rwanda, I mean, number one, like you can't find clean water. Like you can't drink water. I mean, at least here in the U.S., no matter where you live. I mean, at least in most places. I know there are some places. Flint, Michigan. Yeah, Flint, Michigan. Okay. You have your one-offs. But no, I mean, when you go to an actual third world country, I mean, you got to walk miles to get clean water. Jeez. You've got to walk miles. You're starving. There literally is not food. On top of that, people don't realize the racism that goes on, like real racism where you get murdered and tribes get killed just for your religion or your faith or not abiding. South Africa, right? South Africa. I mean, to me, when I look at third world country, when we talk about how cities are becoming a third world country, you really kind of, you know, it's kind of a slap in the face to the cities and the countries that are actually third world. I mean when I was in Rwanda I literally had to sleep with a net around my bed because there would be these poisonous mosquitoes that if they got you they'd kill you and so I was like I'm going to sleep paranoid and these guys were like yeah just don't forget put the net because if not you might die I'm like okay that's great why were you out there? I went out there we did one of the artists that I played for we did like a whole charity event and we played for like 5,000, 6,000 Rwandas which was like so cool but it was scary man Like, I mean, you're, you got no AC anywhere. Like you're, you have your skin, you can't drink any of the clean, any of the water there or you'll get super sick. Food is a luxury there. And, and then on top of that, like, I mean, people don't got cars. They don't, they're not driving around. I mean, you could actually say that Rwanda and places in Africa are more of a third world country than more, more than like Cuba and Cuba's in bad shape. I mean, Cuba is like two countries. It's like one side. It's like beautiful for all the tourists. It's like, I feel like it's like Hunger Games in Cuba. It's like the Capitol, you go on the tourist side, and then you literally cross the bridge, and it's goodnight. You're limited on food. Your food is rationed and everything. Yeah, if people say America is a third world country, there should be qualifications to make a nice statement. Yeah, 100%. And yes, are there places that feel like a third world country, especially if you've never traveled? 100%. I wouldn't walk in Baltimore. I wouldn't walk certain parts of New York City. Even LA. Los Angeles, man. And that's why I got out. One of my buddies, I talked to him like three months ago. I'm like, how is it bad? And he's actually, and he's actually a lefty. He goes, yeah, I'm honest with you, man. Like, it's getting pretty bad here. Like how bad? He's like, I don't wear jewelry anymore because I'm scared of getting jumped. Hell no. I'm like, people are getting jumped in Beverly Hills now. Like they're going out, out into the rich areas. Like we're going to. There's no repercussions. Yeah, there is. Why? Because we don't enforce the law. Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, we're, we're seeing what's going on right now with Trump in DC. like you bring in someone you bring in a boss that's actually going to enforce the law and everyone disappears it's like daddy's home and when daddy's home like people are not going to disobey they might not listen to mommy the same way but that's probably where they'll put the dome I'd imagine DC right? I hope I would hope so. That'd be pretty nuts I mean it'd be pretty badass. Yeah that would be sick so when you landed in Israel like could you see it from the plane? No I don't know like I don't know what it looks like. Huh. No I don't even like I don't even know if it actually looks like a dome I have no idea. So is it, I wonder if it's like an invisible field or something. It might be. I mean, they have to have, I mean, cause there's the iron dome, there's David sling, which is another technology that they've been making with the U S. Um, and that is like true. One of the true benefits when it comes to Israel and the U S like, I mean, think about if I wanted, if I want to do a campaign, like this open enrollment for America for self care, I am beta testing right now, all my ads to prepare for, and optimizing my leads and my pay, my webpages and my funnels. Or if you're in sales, how are you going to know you have a really good sales script that's going to close at a highest percentage you have to test and fail and test and fail well the US is using Israel right now where they're getting all the data and Trump's been talking about when he tweets something he's pretty specific about it he's like I want to create an Iron Dome and why? because I got all the data I have all the intelligence Israel sharing everything with us and I will say regardless whether you love or hate Israel Israel is our closest ally when it comes to government to government when it comes to being on talking terms and the Mossad and the CIA. And yes, you can hate the Mossad and you can also hate the CIA, but they are in talks and they share all of their intelligence, which is why I do think a lot of politicians are, and as well our government, it gives a lot of passes to Israel at times. Yeah, for sure. Well, Jordan, it's been awesome, man. Where can people find you and find America First Healthcare? Yeah, you can find me on my Instagram, Jordan Sarmo, J-O-R-D-A-N-S-A-R-M-O. and if you can check out our company America First Healthcare open enrollment is coming up on November 1st so if you need health insurance you don't know who to turn to and you want to work with someone that you can trust we have over 100 agents that will put you in a better position we will not lie to you and take care of you AmericaFirstHealthcare.com check them out guys, peace later I hope you guys are enjoying the show please don't forget to like and subscribe it helps the show a lot with the algorithm thank you