CSB370: SILENCE BREEDER, The Bloodline Must Continue
190 min
•Apr 29, 2026about 1 month agoSummary
Castle Super Beast discusses Final Fantasy XIV's massive 7.0 expansion overhaul including a new battle system, removal of the two-minute meta, interface redesign, and free trial expansion to Shadowbringers. The hosts also cover Pragmata's excellent gameplay loop, various indie games, and industry news including game preservation debates and Saudi Arabia's pullback from esports investments.
Insights
- Final Fantasy XIV's decision to maintain both old and new combat systems simultaneously reflects lessons learned from Star Wars Galaxies—forcing players to abandon legacy systems causes exodus rather than adoption
- Removing all party buffs from FF14 eliminates the mathematical optimization problem that defined the two-minute meta, allowing job design freedom and individual playstyle expression over prescribed rotations
- Game preservation through fan projects highlights a fundamental industry problem: companies designing games to be unplayable offline, then claiming offline versions won't be 'fun' to justify erasure
- Pragmata's layered systems (hacking, shooting, stagger mechanics, defensive tools) demonstrate how synergistic subsystems create emergent gameplay depth that rewards learning and adaptation
- Large-scale esports investment pullbacks (Saudi Arabia from golf, soccer, MMA) signal that soft power sports ventures are unsustainable, with implications for any game industry relying on similar funding models
Trends
Combat system redesigns prioritizing player agency over mathematical optimization (FF14 evolved mode, reduced button bloat)Game preservation becoming community responsibility as live service shutdowns accelerate without official offline optionsIndie roguelike deck-building mechanics expanding beyond card games into fighting games and action titlesCross-region data center matchmaking reducing server fragmentation and enabling broader community playEsports investment consolidation: mega-funds pulling out of multiple sports simultaneously signals market correctionAI-generated customer service creating legal liability for companies (Air Canada precedent) without improving support qualityCharacter action games incorporating narrative-driven companion mechanics (Pragmata's Diana) as core gameplay loopFree-to-play trial expansion strategies (FF14 adding Shadowbringers) as conversion funnel optimizationJob action cosmetics (animation skins) emerging as new monetization layer distinct from gear/mountsHorizontal progression systems (similar gear from multiple sources) replacing vertical treadmill design
Topics
Final Fantasy XIV 7.0 expansion battle system redesignTwo-minute meta elimination and buff system removalGame preservation and fan-made offline versionsLive service game shutdown ethicsPragmata combat system design and synergy mechanicsIndie roguelike fighting gamesCross-region data center player matchingEsports investment pullbacks and sustainabilityAI chatbot customer service liabilityCharacter action game companion designFree-to-play trial expansion strategiesJob action cosmetics and monetizationHorizontal progression system designGame cancellation and marketing erasureAccessibility in controller-based combat systems
Companies
Square Enix
Final Fantasy XIV developer announcing massive 7.0 expansion overhaul with new battle system and content strategy
Capcom
Pragmata developer praised for excellent synergistic combat system design and escort character implementation
Bandai Namco
Tekken 8 and Tales series publisher; mentioned in context of fighting game and JRPG design discussions
Sony Interactive Entertainment
PS5 implementing 30-day online check-in requirement for offline games, restricting game preservation
Behavior Interactive
Dead by Daylight developer confirmed layoffs affecting multiple team members
Embracer Group
Example of failed Saudi investment model causing massive studio acquisitions and subsequent shutdowns
Arc System Works
Guilty Gear Strive developer implementing major balance changes and new battle system philosophy
Ponkle
Vampire Survivors developer expanding to 15+ simultaneous projects across new studios in Japan and Italy
Yoko Taro/PlatinumGames
Nier director collaborating with FF14 for Evangelion raid content and crossover cosmetics
NetEase
Withdrew $44M funding from Gang of Dragons, leading to complete marketing erasure and project cancellation
Air Canada
Ordered to pay compensation for chatbot providing false ticket refund information in small claims court
Atlus
Persona and Shin Megami Tensei publisher; referenced in context of JRPG design and localization
Nintendo
Switch platform receiving FF14 port with half-price subscription model and no online service requirement
Microsoft
Xbox platform supporting FF14 cross-play and data center player matching across regions
People
Yoshi P
FF14 director negotiating increased development resources and leading expansion overhaul announcement
Hikaru Tamaki
Designed new evolved battle system and all new job implementations; nicknamed 'Mr. Prime' for construct 7 mechanic
Koji Fox
FF14 translator using AI-generated images in presentation; known for quest pun writing
Woolly
Discussed FF14 expansion, Pragmata gameplay, and conducted 24-hour birthday stream covering multiple games
Pat
Analyzed FF14 changes, game preservation ethics, and industry investment trends throughout episode
Yoko Taro
Nier director collaborating with FF14 for Evangelion raid crossover content
Quotes
"They literally said they tried it with the dragoon being invincible, but it breaks too many of the encounters"
Pat•FF14 combat system discussion
"The tyranny of the two-minute meta is over"
Square Enix (via presentation)•FF14 expansion announcement
"I don't give a fuck. It's gone. Don't shut it down then asshole"
Pat•Game preservation discussion
"The gameplay loop is actually fucking brilliant now that a few new mechanics have been introduced"
Woolly•Pragmata gameplay analysis
"This is the definition of a pure hustle and here's why: whose fault is it that the answers are exploitable? The quiz company"
Pat•Hustle vs scam segment
Full Transcript
Oh No, woolly Hello, did you get fucking killed and take it over by a gigantic mythic hourglass? Hello Hi, welcome to the welcome to the podcast everybody Are you in are you in the sand? Are you okay, dude? I According to the braid broken hourglass rules. Oh, is that the braid? That's the braid logo. I Am going to be okay, but the hourglass has unfortunately been smashed into a million pieces So yeah, this is like a Street Fighter 5 announcement week kind of thing. So that's the end of that unfortunately Also, but it just has it just so happened that all that should happen But I also did the fucking 24 hour stream at the same time. Yeah, man I mean like hey, I Mr. Woolly Madden my good friend and longtime business man partner What have you what are you up to man? I was I was I had a I don't know if you remember table lords the the old Board game show, but I had I had an exploding hourglass intro in that intro that I was thinking I was like, can I find a way to use that here somewhere? Can I get a little use it cut to? Yeah, um I had a week a couple things happened One of which was my phone exploding Now when you say your phone exploding do you mean you dropped it and it blew up into a million pieces No, I that is my phone buzzing with a million messages from everybody telling me about Eva and I think I think there's a real like like a barometer on this where I'm watching it live and You can see me pull my phone out and go Right and then I get the message back and the message is essentially you were too slow and I'm like I'm watching How much faster could I have possibly been I mean, you know No fear like like to be fair you did beat men to the punch Who did I not beat to the punch you did not beat two cosplayers I know They're in there because they were there they're in there. They didn't have to worry about stream delay. Yes In any case though aside from the the big segment that is that exciting or just worrying if when your phone is It's either something like the first one the first one is worrying and then after that I'm like, okay I know what this is. Yes and so That aside there. Yeah. Yeah, I guess we'll dodge that for a second. I did have a week. I checked out some stuff The there's some stuff I forgot to bring up last week, too But that happens I'll get to the end and then like the King Charles thing will happen and somebody like you forgot about this I'm like, ah, mm-hmm King Charles is gone King Charles is gone. There's just darkness now, which thank you. Yeah, we could we could only hope yeah the Why I got around to stuff like Goldman for example the eternal life fucking Goldman played the demo Oh, we talked about the gold man. Yeah, so you played that and then I went back and I checked out the demo as well and Just to say the animation flex is insane obviously and Yeah, actually no, we did talk. Yeah, you're right. We did we did talk I didn't go to Goldman So I went back to beat it. I left off How like oh the demo to yeah towards the end. I didn't know where I was The demo I had when I left off I played it for about an ah maybe two hours and then I want to say there was another like 20 minutes or 30 minutes that I just That were there. I was basically near the end, right? Cuz I played it for a while and then I stopped it. I was like, okay, when's the so coming back to the end of the demo unfortunately, I started to see some of the raw side and This it would have been a better demo to have left off that first time and then not returned because it was Unfortunately pretty much a miserable experience the second time around because oh, I finished off the puzzle I was looking at and then you have to walk into a room and Essentially put in a four-digit code that I'm looking through the note It says you have the code in your notes and I was looking through the notes And there's a couple different places where notes are and I didn't see it and I was like is it just me Does anyone else know remember this and the audience the odd chat didn't either and then I went back and around that I went back and kind of did some loops back to the there were the town you hang out in some new stuff unlocked in the town and You got to talk to some more NPCs which was cool But then it started and I because I didn't request I didn't know the demo was over and that basically you started getting locked into These really long conversations and then it starts focusing on the you know the not the parent in the with the kid Now like zoomed out narrative interesting stuff, but these these zoomed in lucky ones old man on the island We don't know what's going on yet stuff and and these characters are like coming in with their lore But they're really really like it's kind of hitting the brakes on The game to like go through these conversations and it felt bad. Maybe this shouldn't have been the end of your demo It was kind of I was like, oh, this is weird I'm kind of like I started I stopped putting the voice on and kind of just started going okay All right. Yes next line next line and that the pacing kind of just like makes you hit the wall of Like four or five characters that just yapp at you for a while Before you get to your next like little pure platforming goodness ducktail pull platforming moment, you know and After running around there and not having anything else to say to them It's like so when what now and it just it was it was awful And then it turned out going back to that thing the code was in the notes in a particular Journal log that was there and I put the code in and it's like yeah game You could have just made this like you had had one note to say you already have the code So you know what to do, but then the code itself was not on that page where that was it was in another place And I was like this is a silly way to go so so on the I saw somebody say this but and I totally agree So like what you're saying is on the indie game scale of gay or sad This definitely leans towards sad and then just throws a bunch of dialogue at you about it. I Yeah Like if those are the only two metrics then it's closer to that think about it. Yeah, I guess I guess What are the other? But no, I mean when you get the hospital bed like lower going then it definitely goes towards sad however Yeah, the I hope that the final game does not stagger itself as as brutally and have this weird feeling of like awesome ducktails platforming and fucking Slow it down wall of text. Let's talk about chemo. You know so That aside I also went and I take a look at Denture tack Mmm, which I recall you had a bit of a struggle with I Wouldn't call it a struggle. I would call it a reaction a Complete revolution I was I picked it up and went oh yeah, so style cool music Cool everything don't want to play it ever. Okay, so here's the thing denture tack fucking rules it landed so hard with me Like a control Bible for all these super cool Japanese hip-hop games that they all have to work in a way that makes me go Oh, okay, the first part of your sentence is there a control Bible for these cool Japanese hip-hop games? Yes, hi My name is woolly welcome. Nice to meet you. I I am I am that control Bible I'm a living breathing archive of this Second with the controls. Yeah, I mean I will say that like jet set radio has some fucking weird shit that you were understandably You know repulsed by back in the day because of the way the jump in the slide enus and everything felt I get that I totally understand bomber a cyberpunk building off of that and improving it a lot adding some more Tony Hawk to that that feel and boosting and stuff they is a much better game for sure But there is some of that control jank. You're not you're not wrong denture tack is doing something specific and The thing it's doing is overwhelming you with the amount of options you have because a train is on rails so denture tack is basically a yeah, imagine a jet set radio style art style with extreme Sushi Ben kill la kill kind of cool over exaggerated anime characters in Neo Tokyo and Train drifting and doing tricks with your fucking sick ass train while it multi-track drifts is like what all the cool kids are up to So the style music presentation all that I was like, yeah Absolutely, but you're on rails, which means you're not free form going wherever you want therefore Because it's you're on rails that kind of simplifies a game in a lot of cases so to make up for it They've made the amount of things you can do on rails excessive and They load that all at you like in one fell swoop the tutorial teaches you about Track jumping track drifting like like the the timing of how you corner needs to be perfect You can neutral jump or like flip in midair and then add stunts to it and and manual and all the little things you would do Like with the Tony Hawk game right and a little bit of skate actually, you know I'd say so But but what starts happening is the train Tracks start coming at you in really aggressive ways where as you're saw if you're thinking of like a Sonic game We're grinding as a part of it But in this case if you jump and then like you can freely drift left or right in midair and jump onto a track That doesn't exist or make the wrong, you know Like sometimes you can just jump in and style off the track into the abyss and so it makes I did that a fair number of times Yes, and that that's the challenge. That's where it gets hard, you know When you beat the demo though, it also then shows you like here's a trailer Here's a Training ground where you can go around and kind of get the hang of it and here is move list 2 Which is all the advanced moves including the wall ride the loop D loop The ability to like flip and drop straight down and like you're doing Just all this shit It's asking so much of you as you're fucking train grinding through the city and it's so fun and awesome when it's happening and The things that you're keeping up with are coming fast and you know It's just it's like any like a fast rhythm game with lots of things coming at you once you learn the the track You're on and I guess get more comfortable with like Exactly where your buttons and inputs are you can do some cool shit while styling and doing tricks, you know Multitrack drifting is is the beginning of what's possible It yeah, you know that meme is just like what if we took that as a starting point and then launched from there Is it more like a snowboard than a skateboard because? like Yikes doesn't have you there's no human giant human to hold the fucking I mean a Christ there It can be but like it still amounts to neither because if you're comparing it to SSX or Tony Hawk You're both like neither of those are working because you because you have like you have control over your drift Left or right in your free movement. This is really like rails You know you have control over the speed you go down that rail and how stylishly you go down that rail But when the rail jumps off you've got to be in the air and switching over to the right one and not fuck up those moments You know, it's more like a really advanced Donkey Kong cart Minecart level I Guess I can see that yeah think of think of a Donkey Kong mine carts section in 3d going hard and having all these branches with them and you can fuck up in a lot of ways But then what if you just commit it to making it like no and get in there and style super hard And then there's a there's an invisible rail in the sky that is like a rainbow road That's a path of heaven where you can grind up with your train above the city and style extra hard, you know It's great. It's really really cool. And you got to just kind of Give in to what it wants to do which is overwhelm your brain with options Good stuff really looking forward to that I I Felt like the I felt like the inertia on the train was just crazy And I would use the triggers to like shoot it around. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely use the triggers There's breaking and then there's just accelerate and then there's cornering and stuff you in letting go at the right time 100% like Larry David right now. Yeah Yeah, no, I really wanted to like dense attack like it bums me out That I had like a you know, like a beautiful meal and you take a bite and like Manita Manita showed up in the chat and was like it's kind of like subway surfing and I was like take a lap It is get the fuck out and I it will I made him I made I made him get up and take a lap I just know we're not we're not subway. Sorry put attention attack subway surfers underneath us right here to help the zoomers pay attention And then when I finished it, I was like, okay, Manita, you're kind of right It is a bit more like subway surfers, but you didn't need to say it Is it Sonic just like subway surfers in a bunch of those levels? I get everything with skating on it is Regriding is subway surfers if you really think about it Things are either No, I don't have it. Yeah, don't have it um Anyway It's one thing when something comes in and becomes the the reference point for the past and the future and that is rightfully upsetting But it's another one It's also the the thing that is partially responsible for destroying the attention spans of the youths and the adults That's a symptom for sure It's cutting up the so the the the zoomer kids multi screening at three years old like Subway surfers filled the void. It didn't create it To be fair the people I know taking the most damage to attention span from all that stuff are actually people my age Oh, yeah, yeah Because it's like oh, I remember what I remember what it was like when this wasn't at all a part of my life and now Uh, I can tell that I'm not as patient anymore watching or paying attention to things, you know Versus those who were molded at it Anyway for me, I'm a little less patient because I'm gonna die soon Okay, well, you know, I'm halfway through. I don't want to fucking waste any of my time on on some Fucking prelude to the point fun fact being impatient is gonna make you die even sooner As it as it as it cranks It depends on how much stress you're cranking, you know, or is your is your court is your cortisol spiking? If your cortisol is spiking Then you're good cortisol too. Uh, I don't know But I do know that, you know, the solution is um In the in a hammer You okay over there don't don't hit yourself with a fucking hammer. You okay Fucking I got the fucking cable put under the chair again. Okay I'm old manning the fucking thing. Oh man. I've been enjoying saying I'm 40 Um, what the fuck so I'm 40 Oh, I can't oh, I can't figure it out. All right. Hold on. Let me continue feathering everybody's balls because we didn't talk about ff 14 yet I played never way and I think never way is something cool. There's some cool stuff there. I yeah, I think um It takes a while to kind of get its Vibe it's no its vibe is immediate. It takes a minute before the game starts to like Be clear about what you're gonna be doing here. Um, but it kind of doesn't you see woolly. It's an indie game And never way you're sad And gay sad and gay. This is this is true. It's right on the nexus. It is it is on the packaging. Um So yeah digital depressed cozy horror Uh, and you you get fired from your job and you go to another world and then you start you get fired from your job for Just not showing up because fuck it And and yeah Yeah, all right. Yeah, and you know you meet people on the street that are like unnerving for various reasons or that you are unnerved by Um, and then I guess you kind of do the tutorial that's like here's how the cozy farming stuff will work But also there's combat too and then it kind of wraps up there, you know, so it's like, okay that's a lot more Put together than I would have expected Yeah, the one the one again when the hyper light begins as you said, uh, it starts hard I would have liked to have seen what one day of island life looks like though I also wish I could have seen one day of island life So they did kind of I mean, maybe that was part of the the intended blue ball effect But like they they I felt like I I don't know if I Want to grab it immediately because I want to see what the day to day of the thing actually looks like Which you were not given in that demo because every one of those games has like a very specific like rhythm And it's nearly always here's you know 10 persimmon seeds Get out of the fucking field clear the fucking field Prylent your seeds Then go talk to everybody in town, right? And it's like is that what this one's also going to be because that's a nice Back and forth at where I was just a more involved combat system And also in most of these cozy games it I am I in but I feel like the intro is like somebody comes from a life That they're leaving behind and then they walk on to the island and then they're like let's start over And it's essentially just like really depressed stardew valley stardew is like, oh, I hate working for amazon Oh, it's a cog in the machine or or animal crossing like you're pulling up into town with the move You're moving in or whatever right But here's like what if we showed you that those final days of how bad your life was before you decided to come settle In the new place. Yeah, the stardew guy is just like in a at a desk and just goes like ah fucking Like you don't really feel the like disastrous on we of I don't even care to get in my pajamas So fucking I'll just crash out my clothes So the yeah, so the never way the demo showed it told me on the premise and vibe But I don't know if the gameplay itself is gonna be For me, so I gotta wait for More of that when it drops uh played some more pragmatic Got a bit further in there and Hey, guess what that game continues to be fucking fantastic You know, what's really funny is that I've been watching supercuts of other people streaming the game who don't have kids Getting Visible baby fever. Oh, yeah, that's becoming a thing. That's becoming a thing. Um Yep. Yeah, yeah, that it's quite it's quite interesting. So I yeah, there's there's there's that happening and and There's also people getting weird about it and I'm just like Hey, I'm experiencing shit where I'm like, oh, I remember that's exactly what my kid's doing actually that's totally that's legit Hey, Diana's doing the thing and I mean she's older but still I saw somebody say that oh kids don't do that huge Diana huge Diana thing and I'm like fuck you. They don't They totally do that shit Yeah, um, so Uh, uh, uh, I I Caught wind of the weirdness and looked over and went I want nothing to do with that people are fucking Strange out there and far too much conversation on this here. Internet has been monopolized by the sub sub percent of a percent of complete psychotic freaks Sure who have no connection to anything in the real world whatsoever and just to do nothing But scream all day about the most awful things you've ever heard What I will say is this cap called made a fucking great game and playing further into it It's not just the premise of like hey, you're taking care of this little girl and you're hanging out Which is fun But you also shoot robots you shoot robots and shooting robots is not something brand new to video games nor is dad modding But shot a couple robots But they've created a new thing here where when it comes together the gameplay loop is very fun Very simple and at as as it advances and this is what I wanted to kind of bring to bring up today It's really coming together this gameplay loop is Actually fucking brilliant now that a few new mechanics have been introduced that weren't there the first time around So where we saw earlier from that first session from the demo you get a feel for the beginning of you know the gameplay and everything um hacking shooting management of of encounters in small spaces and Sometimes larger spaces but more day more dangerous enemies right waves of flyers and missiles coming at you etc I talked about hacking the missiles and returning them to sender So what the toolkit expands into after a few more hours of play is I got that down weapon Right the bottom slot You know how you have the oh, yeah, yeah, so you know you have like shotgun shotgun laser on the left big damage You have situational and then you have something on the down slot that I don't know what it is So down slot is defensive weapon Okay, and the first one that you pick up is Mirage distraction. Oh great attack that guy over there. He's not real fake daddy, right and uh, they every day get distracted by it while you can set up your play and the Brilliance of like now how some of this stuff works together is because you start to see that the There's so much you can do That revolves around setting up everything coming together and then you start unlocking There's nodes and modes Right, so the the nodes are what you've seen which allow you to do things like multi-hack Um Extra damage the little yellow things that you hack through that that add statuses to the the the results of the hack when it resolves, right? You can get things like obviously stagger so the enemies start stand still Or you can add something like confuse which makes it attack other enemies Which is especially useful when they're distracted in a group now. They're attacking each other and you and Doing tons of damage to each other right so that's phenomenal. There's some synergy there that plays together um, you pick up a second pistol which is a carbine and it has a massive recoil and It's got like 20 bullets before it has to start recharging However, it does very little damage But it but builds up heat on your enemy And when heat builds up they get staggered and you can roll up to them for a QTE Ah, okay, right. So it's a different way of stacking up damage and and dealing with the the threats If you target the the weak points on the enemies it builds up heat even faster for example Right, so it's just it's a different way to manage things You've now completely changed out of the stun mechanic as the hack mechanic for these guys that you've brought you've introduced the stagger Mechanic from like ff7r for example or ff16. Uh, you you've brought stun into the game Uh, the QTE thing you can invest points into have the ability to like pop that onto hacks as well So that when they resolve you can run up and get close and do some good damage um But where now so all of this is kind of like your brain is bleeding learning to prioritize and deal with all these things Happening at the same time and it and it feels really great. Uh, then you get modes, which is hacking mode Uh, uh can shift over to something like what I unlocked is called offensive mode And what okay and what that does is it goes okay? The first time you hack something you open it up, right? You see like the the machine like all shows off its weak points and it's open for crit damage Uh, the second time you hack it right away it does way more damage and that any shooting you do While you are hacking Gets the damage gets amplified during the hacking uh a process So if you if you hack the first time it gets opened up and then you start shooting it You're doing some some damage to the enemies If you start hacking a second time while diana is doing it it starts to build up essentially gray life Which you then okay resolve a second time for a huge damage cash out And so you're going oh save your shooting for when that second hack is happening Right, okay, but you're and when you shoot you run out of bullets eventually very quickly And there's a point where you're like I have to cool down and reload There's no nothing else to do right now So you start to realize the optimal way to play is to put yourself all the way to the end where you're right about to resolve the hack empty the clip and then do it and Right take all the damage and then while you're reloading you're going back to pick up things around the the arena You're planning for your next approach. You're hacking some of the that's interesting because it's not just like your system And then it's own subsystem there. You're describing a super system. It's incredible like like on like you're doing the regular system and then it has its own subsystem with the nodes But no no like no i'm gonna do this one On top on top of it not underneath it Everything that we were talking about where we like how the hacking and the shooting come together really like synergistically Is it's way better than I thought like as as that advances to level two level three level four like they've super super baked them into each other and Uh, then you get a wave coming at you that's like, oh fuck this Diana hack them dt pop it, right? But i've also unlocked the ability to if you don't want to use dt As her as your big like explosion You can spend that resource Uh to instead unlock auto hacking Where oh and auto hacking will go like Optimal path boop hack resolved It'll do it is that consumable or like it spends Diana trigger So okay, you're using a very valuable resource to auto hack But if you Diana you got this if you have a moment where Something for example, um There is a there is a an enemy that comes out that is a healer And the healer will pick up and start healing enemies that you're not paying attention to Fucking arch vial, right? Uh when that's happening You can it's really annoying obviously However, if you can start hacking the healer during the healing process The healing hack grid changes to become a maze like minesweeper Oh, and if you can get to the resolve point You can do massive explosion damage to both healer and the thing being healed Is it funny that like we're we are 32 years on from the arch vial showing up in doom 2 and if I have to shoot a gun It's still the worst enemy type I can possibly encounter things that heal the mob Things that heal or pick up dead guys off the floor just you fucking motherfucker Always the priority always So waiting in this case though Waiting for them to shooting them and killing them first Makes the fight harder because you're not doing as much damage with your normal shots Then getting that explosion that I just described. Oh man, that's real. That's a that so now it's So you want to wait to do some damage to then cause the healing to begin And then do the hacking while that healing right? Think about everything I just described all at the same time In your brain trying to put the order together of what is worth Your highest priority and what comes second and what comes third? I saw you put up a video That was titled where is it? It was something something and then the last word was disengage Oh, yes. Yes, and I was like, huh That's not something you usually talk about in shooting encounters. Yeah full on action game is oh you got a fucking Bail for the for a second. Okay the first exam prioritize disengage survive. That's what that's what it was Yes, 100% There the the way that the hardest waves of pragmatic come at you You must disengage because you have no ammo You've used up all your shotgun and you have no resources The only way you're going to get more is to get the shit on the ground You've been ignoring while the fight's been going on But you have to do so while keeping in mind there's audio cues that a laser is about to come at you now and a missile still have like the most outrageous boss fountaining just like Because I remember that first boss room has like 15 floating fucking weapons not always Oh, yeah, not always Sometimes you walk into a room that has like one or two things on the ground And the waves you're going to deal with you have to get the rest from the dead bodies You know So this is where managing your time like while your bullets are reloading I cannot stress enough how much you need to figure out how to like use that time wisely You know, it's funny because um something I didn't really talk about during Res evil nine another capcom game. Uh-huh So, um was that the all the zombies in that had different behaviors and one of which Reminds me of some of the things you're talking about. There's a deaf Sorry, there's a a blind zombie that reacts to noise And any noise causes him to go completely nuts and attack whatever made the noise But that includes like gunfire and like broken bottles that you can throw and people figured out that if you kite a Extremely large boss Close to him and throw a bottle at him. He will kill the boss in a single hit. Oh Interesting because his damage is actually like infinite for other enemies. That's basically like clickers, right? Yeah, because that a lot of last of us was that stuff like that interesting. Wow Um, like he's he's now a vital part of the speed run Okay, because you have you get bottles and you use him to clear out paths for you And like when you were describing like amping these these shithead robots up so that they fight themselves for you That's still great. I love it when enemies just do it for you and the rooms you get dropped in There's shit coming at you from all sides and sometimes you're just like, okay, you two go fight each other I'm gonna deal with this this thing over here that won't stop rolling at me. You know, uh, you also get your so last time I picked up a Daddy dodge as I described it a last, you know, like with dad time dad time, right? Right, very cool. Like you're you dodged it like a cool guy and you get to Enjoy the reward if you fuck that up. Hey, guess what? We've got a little ukemi recovery Uh bat within for you So you're you're late One where you can like basically Recovery roll after getting hit on the dodge too is something else you can dad within the dad within Yeah, so, you know, I'm like, oh, they know what they're doing here, right? Um, it's it's yeah, I don't think of like a big robot Spacesuit man that looks like an isek to go and have fucking ukemi's Yeah, like dude seems too heavy for that But also This game Is made by capcom. Yeah What do we you know, come on Yeah, no, it's it's really it's really fucking cool. Um, and uh, yeah every new weapon I've picked up since then and every new thing you've gotten has been just like really fucking fun I got I picked up a weapon that is a um sticky bomb launcher And the sticky bomb launcher Makes the hacking grid every sticky bomb you shoot makes the hacking grid shrink by A quad by an outside quadrant So, okay, so what is a five by five becomes a four by four becomes a three by three Because you're shooting sticky bombs onto the enemy can hack real fucking fast on a three by three Well, then the first thing you fight after picking it up is this big fucking heavy That's got a giant hat grid that you're like, okay You know, yeah, so like that's the thing is they go Hey, you have the ability to do this now Fight this fucking thing. Good luck Um, it was it's been a blast man And yeah, this is just like getting like another yeah second session in and watching How well they thought about this concept of shooting and hacking and bringing the two together It's really really well thought out. It's it's much better um Even a few hours beyond where you left off and uh, Fantastic fucking love it man. I am people have been asking me about pragmana And my answer is I will get to it after I finish a couple of things on my plate right now Yep, pragmana is right up my alley. That is definitely something I want to go back to Yep, um Always always happy to see a new ip just fucking crushing it um And hanging out with diana and the hub and that kid's fucking playing hide and go seek And sometimes you're I think capcom has really engineered like a great set of escort characters, which is like Ashley, what's she gonna do? She's gonna stand like one foot behind me on my right side And if I tell her to hide in the trash, she's gonna hide in the trash. What's diana gonna do? She's gonna just hop on my fucking back. She might as well be the same character We've come a long way from emma emmerich and peter puppy Oh Man, I forgot for Pete's sake in there for him. Oh, man. Emma. Emma. I'm right fucking level is so Emma emmerich takes a lot of flak for being one of the worst escort missions ever designed But oh, yeah, but real ones remember earthworm gym where the whole point Was to tell you was to remind you how awful escort missions were Bro, I beat earthworm gym as a child and then I recently saw it on like one of the lists of like very hard video games I'm like, it wasn't that bad. So I went back and looked at footage of it and I'm like, wow I beat this game as a child. That's crazy That game is bad shit. It was bad shit. It was really really awful at times Might as well just say you beat the lion king. No one fucking beat that game. That's a lie, but still Uh, okay. So pragmat is fantastic Um, and then yeah, lastly got to check out strive 2.0. See what they're what's going on with that game the cut down, huh? Be what uh, like it's so crazy in a world where We're we've been talking about how the tech end patches have been upsetting the people playing And balance has been such an issue and stuff and here you have Like, you know, one of the one of the core things that tech and players hate is the new heat mechanic Which is making things hyper and over the top and simplifying what used to be a more complicated exchange of of you know They don't want it to get too far away from its brother virtual fighter And here you have arxis Basically apologizing going. Yep. We put a mechanic in the game that nobody liked and it was too strong So we have completely taken it out and changed the whole game system To be actually we pulled back on everybody and made everybody more tame We admit we got a little too crazy with it Our bad. It's the opposite of what dragon ball did the other day. It's the obvious, you know, uh, and In the process, I mean they unfortunately gave happy chaos a fucking infinite which he's banned now until they address it I'm sure the fact that he's banned makes some people happy people are chill about that. That's fine but um I but I just like on a personal level. I'm interested because they gave nagaru yuki a brand new move that is Uh, it's yuki mooyoi. He slams the ground with a big blood explosion with his sword and it's being called credit card because What it does is and like I'm gonna get to get a little Inside on the character stuff Nagaru yuki's system was one where he has a bunch of amazing special moves that can cancel into each other And do right insane pressure and damage to the opponent but Every time you do one it builds up a blood rage meter And when that blood rage pops he can basically drop his entire life bar down to zero He kills himself by going too hard at you I always thought of it as a guy trying to take a motorcycle turn really tight Doing weight going yet right on the edge. Oh, you're going so much faster. Oh, you flipped out and you're dead um, so I obviously loved I love his character design because he's a big fucking cool black samurai with the cool shit and all the things I love right duh, but When you talk what when you talk about um characters design fantasy or or um What is no is that the right word? uh, you're thinking of uh Character fantasy right that's what you character fantasy character fantasy. Um Character fantasy role fantasy job fantasy class fantasy. Whatever. Yes this is this is just Fucking pure this is just nerd shit, but in lore he is a vampire that is like a student of slayer And I love slayer. I love slayer. Yeah, and he's being forcefully controlled by happy chaos who everybody hates and Oh, no, I hate that guy and he hates it too but like the whole thing of his like the whole like Keep the inner vampire blood rage shit under control You have the ability to go you can go as hard as slayer, but your body and brain can't keep up Right. I love the idea of a character that's like you you have that ability But you've got to keep it on the line. You're not slayer. You can't do what slayer can do So calm the fuck down or you're gonna die You know and it's a it's a it's a fun idea of building a gameplay system around Somebody who has god to your powers, but if you overdo it they fucking gas themselves out even before you start hurting them Right. I also like after like a decade of like building slayer up as just the fucking In like god's own akuma. We have a new character who is also a vampire But has limits to his powers. Yeah, and slayers is like, well, I don't have to do any of that shit I'm fucking slayer. I don't like to do whatever I want. I'm not even trying and I got charon blood feeding me You think you got fucking you think you can keep up, you know um No, so he's like he's this i'm reading a book and blocking here come on So it's so awesome that like his gameplay design reflects that in a really cool and smartly done way, you know Um, and so this move that they added it feels like it completes the fantasy of his kit Which is when you're putting your when you do the move um It he slams the sword into the ground all the blood explodes or whatnot and you lock yourself Wherever you are on the blood gauge you lock yourself to Like the highest or just before the end amount of blood right and it stays there for a couple seconds And you can go nuts For a few seconds more and but then once it pops after that you lose control So you better win. So you give yourself what they're called. It's a credit card Right you you're like you're going nuts. You're doing all this irresponsible shit. It's not working You're about to lose control you go. No you stop it where it is and you're like, I just need another three seconds to kill you You know and if you can take that three seconds and steal it back Then you fucking win, but if not you're cooked and I just love the idea of putting like you're already playing a gambling character And now you're like Lean into the gambling become even more of an addict. Fuck it. Put your mortgage on the line Put your house on the table. You know, it's such a cool thing that I've never seen in anywhere in fighting games ever um, I I don't know many other games that have a character that's just like all or nothing and You just you find you complete it by going What if you bet on black one more time? You know, what if you win this time though, right? And you're like, oh, but I might actually win I might actually do it. Fuck it. There's uh, there's a MMO mentality That would serve a nago well, which is the only point of life that matters is the one between one and zero That's it because we can come back. We can always come back Yeah, it is the as long as you're not dead. You're still fighting It is it is the vampire fantasy here. It's really fucking cool and on top of that. It's like You know, you're it's a really it's a great move like just by the numbers But it makes it's just a fun. I love these moments of like when design and everything comes together You know in an awesome way um Even the fucking meaning of the name is a cool thing. That's like it's it's uh, uh, because Nagariyuki is like a type of lingering snow is what the name means and like the cool and the name of that move is A threatening snowfall that might or might not happen So it's even in the I'm like god damn it guys. Yeah, no, no you're cooking you're cooking with this man Our system works and and cool characters like they do for free over there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, so that's a fun. That's a fun little thing going on. So yeah Like this is like this is a fighting game company that made like 10 goku's and everyone went. Yeah I love that goku then they made another one and everyone's like, yeah Uh, anyway, so um, I sat down with tester luck and we did a strive stream and we had a good time with it That's gonna be popping up soon So yeah over on willy versus everybody this week will continue with phoenix, right more pragmata and some two x ko duos on saturday come hang out Uh, I do have one thing to say about your week, which i'm glad you finally got there because I saw the thumbnail which is like, hey, mia Fuck off It's weird, dude I have spent can you quit that shit? I spent I think the vast majority of phoenix right one going god damn it. Maya. Please get out of frame. You're blocking ghost mia Please please bring mia back as hard as possible as soon as possible and now you're like, no Don't want it. Please Stop capcom again Yeah, and you know what you know, it's as simple as like they had an idea with the art For like a a for the cut of the way the dress would fit for the way the um The the yukata would fit And that was it. That was all that informed the decision is what if we had this this fan service? Outfit unfortunately the logic of what's happening is fucking crazy Not to mention nobody acknowledges it while it's happening around you in the courtroom, which is fucking weird Yeah, and I asked I was like guys in the anime Does it literally play out like this like the kid sitting next to you stands up and just like hulks out Transforms into a completely different person into a busty adult and then makes like Claims to the judge and everyone just goes. Oh, okay, and doesn't ask what the fuck just happened And yes, apparently because like we're all aware that prosecutors and ace attorney cheat sure But like none of them go Yo, that motherfucker's got ghosts on the other side of the room And this is so weird because it's like but there's part there's times where the game fully acknowledges like no No, no spirit channeling and psychics are a part of legit law enforcement and this world You know absolutely 100% Excuse me the biggest case in the first game is based on that and then So you're like are we sandbagging this or are we not and some characters are like weird. It's super fucking weird Yeah, so anyway that continues I guess Like you have this moment where you're like could you just tell me the fucking killer now pleat you're a ghost And last time you were able to pull a fucking Epstein list out of nowhere. Yeah, you do all sorts of shit Can't you just do that again these through karma's briefcase and just tell me what's there like madness Yeah, karma's fun. I appreciate a character going into fucking. Oh, yeah, she's great whip stance cancels uh, I also like that her her her anger is like Justified in a completely consistent way that is totally unjustified. Yeah, well, we we we're we're still discovering her angle here because We know she's the prodigy, but we don't fully know her Uh, yeah her history her bullshit beyond like hey, I know whose kids you are Um, and I'm pointing out I'm like, yeah, there's a dent in the wall behind you. Fucking stare at that shit But also like okay, I have some ghosts over here and that's obviously against the the rules, right? Uh, hey judge is can you stop her from fucking whipping me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting whipped too He can't How is this this is this is a farce? 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Hmm, let's let's let's come see come saw you know Uh Got through 7.3 and 7.4 pretty good patches only did the story stuff But my overall feeling on that was like boy I sure hope they fucking wow me on friday because I am getting back in with a not insignificant time investment Specifically to be accurately wowed Right. I want to have all my ducks in a row to get wowed on friday And that's why I said it last week on last week's podcast. I'm gonna come in this week either fucking pissed Or jumping for joy with little to no in between Mm-hmm Then I hopped on symphony of the night and banged out symphony of the night and one go That is a great game That if you see it on somebody's best of list The fact that it came out in the late 90s is definitely carrying it a fair deal How does a single is a somebody who's played a lot of those metroid vaniors of the castlevania variety? That game is great It is not perfect. Okay. How does a single? How does a single uh sitting Go for that game. It really shows off how the game is divided So everyone remembers the reverse inverted castle from symphony of the night and how that is just the fucking biggest deal ever Until you get there And there's no movement unlock abilities. It's just more dungeon And your goal switches from, you know, perverse environment to find bosses Um the inverted castle has a lot of stuff in it It's also very poorly balanced and the areas don't even have like the same strength enemies from one room to the next and the cool factor of Doing the whole castle upside down Shows off that they really Could have tried harder To make parts of that area traversable upside down So you're playing which version? Uh, i'm playing the playstation requiem version that has uh all the best stuff except it also has a new translation new voice acting Which people hate. Okay You by that point, of course, you would have your shore you can that flies you to the ceiling and your back Yes, right so the problem with the shore you can that flies you to the ceiling is that um And I know you are familiar with this problem The input is down up jump the problem is You have to do down up jump you can't just Bang it out like a fucking flash kick input. Okay tight buffer. Um now granted some of that unreliability In my performance of that particular move Might have something to do with me getting it at like the 15 hour mark in a 24 hour stream Maybe But uh that uh that that second half of the castle so the inverted castle the second half It's it's like a quarter of the game. It took that long Damn what do you mean to get no I did ff 14 patch 7.3 and 7.4 first. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay That took me a good 7.8. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. No, I did the entirety of symphony night like no Because I was like no you get the spells all right away. They're just hidden from you. Yeah um, yeah and uh Yeah, fantastic game Kind of loses a little bit now that everybody knows about the inverted castle Right Like it wasn't pre internet, but it was like pre social media Uh, yeah symphony night's fucking great. The music's incredible But it it definitely takes its place as a great game In consideration of its age Right. Mm-hmm always like you you can never ever ever forget that it came out in like 99 Yeah, no you you play these games with sega saturn eyes Yeah, you know sure. Yeah uh cool And then I hopped on shining force too One of my favorite games from my childhood Uh a genesis game that uh, I was never allowed to play on the old channel because everyone is a hater And it was more important to keep the myth of me not having a childhood going than anything else But fuck it. I'm old now. Oh you want to come I can play shining force too if I want you want to start complaining about Grievances of myths that you have to keep going Do you want to do that? I'm not Not forming this one Okay, okay, okay Oh ceasefire Now that I've attacked you can we have a ceasefire please sure um Uh shiny force two is a strategy rpg from 1994. I got it in 94 for my birthday. So it was very appropriate Um, it is not like fire emblem Fire emblem wishes it was like fucking shining force and I got my so my main thing is that fire emblem always has like a hub And then you always go out Right. It doesn't have an open world. It doesn't have towns. It doesn't have you going to talk to NPCs out in a town Doesn't have a world map Right that shiny force has all that stuff and it makes a big difference It's just that the battles happen to take place on a grid And have the you know the the fire emblem like you know cut to the action shot thing So shining force the I don't know anything about it much um except that The camera angle looks dynamic in my brain for sprites Yeah, so it has the it has the ogre battle slash Um, is it golden sun like with when it actually it's made by the same people. Yeah, okay It's golden sun like yeah behind the back and you go um and it's it's like you know your grid based tactical RPG And when you attack somebody it goes into the dynamic Camera with the parallax, but it also happens to be like a regular dragon quest RPG on top of that And that's the mix That I complain about not being in every fire emblem game Every fire emblem game is like hey, here's your base Here's your academy. Here's your army. Whatever the fuck go talk to the gang now go out and do a battle Now come back to the base go out and do a battle and I'll come back to the base go out and do a battle No, I want to explore world map And I got my favorite possible emotion than this Which is looking over at people at 4 30 in the fucking morning going. Oh, yeah, now I get it now I get what he was talking about It's yeah Probably also important to remember though that you were playing this back in the day when fire emblem was fucking sealed from coming to America Yeah, the first time anything fire emblem related was known here was when roy and marth showed up in melee, you know Yeah, exactly um, I saw somebody just say Oh a unicorn over like unicorn overlord is definitely the closest thing To what I'm talking like it's not even close Uh And uh, so I found it out a couple hours of shining force Not that didn't meet it. It's It's quite long not that unicorn overlord level of granular combat programming though. Oh, no, no, no, no, no But like open like a map unicorn overlord has a fucking nap um and Banged out a couple hours of shining force too And then uh, then that comes the part where I have some advice for you if you ever decide to do a 24 hour fucking stream Uh, so I set it for 10 10 o'clock a.m I was like, that's a good time to start and I'm gonna sleep in that day. Well, I happen to wake up at 7 30 um If that happens to you Get the fuck down there as fast you can and start at eight Because you're gonna be rock solid. You're gonna be rock solid For about 19 and a half hours hmm Okay, and and then you're gonna hit 20. Okay And you're gonna start to Hmm, it's start it's gonna start to go Um, I mean, I do have to say if I were it's been I've been at this gig for a couple years now over decade If I were to do what I would have already done it, but I don't I don't know that never say never you could do anything. I'm 40 years old. Um, and um The main thing is that I started to get tired enough to start to become confused And I'm like I'm just starting to be like Like you can't finish your sentences because the object of your sentence starts starts to just float away So I've seen what happens with other streamers as Exhaustion and hallucinations start kicking in And oh not that much. Yeah. Well, there's a point of there's the was there's the loopy brain Where we've we've elped under loopy brain before Absolutely, but pushing past it to the like this. Why am I still doing this? Can I even be entertaining point is what answer is? I see but you just need to embrace the fact that your collapse is what's entertaining. Oh, yeah, so um, I don't remember The last couple hours of that stream super good Right um But so there's a little so you might see the people in the in the csb chat right now keep talking about centaurs So shining force has centaurs. They're the night class, but they're just literally centaurs with armor And in the back of my mind I feel like I argued with chat for like three hours about centaur shit Mm-hmm. Apparently it was like 25 minutes, but But that's not how I remember it. I just remember just being like consistently Like frustrated and old man grumpy just like no Stop asking me about the fucking centaurs. Yeah. Yeah. No if you that's what I'm like hour 18 I'm not going to be pleasantly Impatient I'm going to be very Unpleasantly impatient with everything happening. I started to hit. You know what's wrong with you people. Oh boy viewers. Oh boy an antagonism Um Had a great time Okay, we'll do again. Absolutely. So if I do it again I'm not having any caffeine for any for a couple of days beforehand And uh the fucking show starts 10 minutes after I wake up I'll I'll scrounge up breakfast from what from the crumbs under this desk rather than because Hey, I was just like I was sitting there at 23 hours and 45 minutes like just like nodding just like uh No, I can do it sleep streaming is a thing. That's a that's a thing people do Yeah, but that's not what that was. I had to do it. I said I was gonna do it. I had to do it Uh, I think it went pretty well. Very happy with that um So on top of that during that 24 hour show Talked about fan fest coming up last friday and a lot of chit chatting about what to expect at the final Fancy 14 fan fest all we knew Going in was that they promised it was a Gigantic shape-up of the game like we have never seen since a realm reborn when they completely made a completely different game At 1.0 and 2.0 for 14 are functionally completely different entities, but they're not rebranding it this time No, they're not rebranding it this time and they're not rebuilding the client Which is the what most of the work had to go into right? so I was like, okay let's use our big brains and and make some shots and I will fighting game analogize these to some degree because street fighter has been more or less Like consistent for decades, right? It has a nice Like one to one transferability. Okay, so i'm sitting there and I told you about the two minute meta last week And i'm like I expect them to kill that Like that's not that's not super. Oh, oh, no there comes that's not controversial, right? Yeah um But then i'm like, you know what? I I got to the point where i'm like i have been checked out on this thing for so long I don't even care if some of these changes are disasters You just need change. I would rather that And it be different than the status quo for another 10 years because we're talking from august of 20 god a realm reborn We're talking about like systems that are from august of 2013 Going on straight up 13 years That's too long for a system to be unchanged So I sit there and like, okay, what's the what's the what's the wildest swings they could take? That was the theme of the show big swings. Let's see some fucking dramatic changes I want Every buff in the game to be deleted Every single fucking ability in the entire game that says add 10 percent to this or Decrease 10 percent to that Fucking gone Replaced with what nothing Okay, what else let's have them walk up on this on the stage And have a fucking what's called an alligan tome stone of poetic in their hand. It looks like a cell phone And it's blue and red and just snap it in half Just like all the kinds of stupid callouts That we would say about them fucking dragging last guardian into the recycling bin Kind of nonsense have the courage to go back on things that you've designed and just Say hey this thing burn it down. Yeah, okay. All right slash and burn So then we started the fanfest thing which was two hours and not One hour as it usually is usually what do you get you get? Hey, here's your cg trailer It's gonna show you the location your premise. They're gonna show us Like so they have been so like locked in step. Okay. They're gonna show us a cg trailer Then they're going to show us Six pieces of sorry five pieces of concept art and five screenshots of five of the six new zones They're going to add they're gonna talk about one feature That precise when I say it it was like you could tell you could date it You can look at the chat people will but yes, that's exactly how they do it every time They would wear a t-shirt that would tease a job next time You can always tell what jobs are coming because they're in a certain order And so for example the order says now it's time for physical range and uh tank And then they would then they would show us an overpriced fucking chair That we could buy And like a fucking thing off the square in a store That's like a 14 000 dollar fucking statue and they would go hey check us back You know and check us back out and next fanfest We'll talk about what the new class is and that and that would be it that is what we have gotten every single time going on 13 years now Wow, okay, so they showed us the cg trailer. Okay And the cg trailer showed us where we're gonna go. It's a place called the fourth if you don't understand that don't worry about it Not a big surprise Very very very not a big surprise at all People who've been following around could be like yeah, I bet we're gonna go To a or b and they went to b And then They showed off This fucking screen and they said we want to change the interface and we want to change how rewards go And they fucking put up A ta- uh fucking powerpoint slide that said fighting off fatigue And it was a million of those fucking tome stones And they were said enough of that shit Fucking nailed it dead on Alligan tome stone of poetics gone Fuck them Get out of here. You guessed correctly Yes, okay next up Total redo of the interface and i'll send you a screenshot. This does not look like 14 That does not look like 14 at all that looks like a me hoyo game Okay, that looks like a mobile game for zoomers Getting with the times Yes, and they are also going to they'll they'll this is a mock-up and they say blah blah blah But the long and short of it is that they are going to rework the reward structure for literally every single thing in the game To be and including that it means they are moving from a Daily system where you run your dailies to a weekly system to a weekly system which As dad pat now i'm like They literally even said hey, you know if you can't play all week But you want to just condense all that into saturday sunday go for it. I'm like, oh, yeah And then they said, you know what if you missed last week? Yeah, you can do last weeks too Just just bang it all out one burst. Oh, yeah, the gray hair patch. All right Thank you. That's nice. Fucking christ. That's nice. Sure. So one of the things woolly Is if you're anything if you're if you're a savage raider if you're a casual player you run into this issue Where gearing has lockouts you can only get so many tomes you can only get so many items a week And so if you want to be up to date From the start of the patch, which for example was yesterday You are going to hit your dailies and and whatnot or your raids for 13 to 15 weeks And if you miss a week You're behind And there's no way for you to catch up at all I have felt the pressure of dailies versus weeklies and things I enjoy and dailies don't work on me because they're just too Fast and I just I'm like I don't care. I'm not gonna keep every day It's not gonna do it and that's okay. Yeah, the fomo can go fuck itself and that's it. It doesn't work The weekly one is just enough of a lower commitment It's nicer that you feel much you're like I have one day in a two week span I can just like fuck on this and thus the fire is lit because it's like oh you want that nero costume Oh, you want to go get that monster hunter costume? You've got about a week and a half to do it if you really wanted to Exactly you could do enough matches and so that actually works more effectively at pushing you because it's not so In and out 24 hours. Fuck you, you know One of the things that I noticed and some of my friends that as well They usually show off a couple screenshots of each zone and by a couple I mean like literally one they showed up a weirdly huge amount of screenshots this time Like more than they ever do but they all looked like it was the same zone So I think they're actually going for much much larger much larger areas this time around but We didn't get any confirmation on that Let's see what else we got They are they're gonna have seasons but the seasons are just going to be the existing patches renamed It's not going to be a fucking thing. It's not it's not a big deal like they made a big deal But it's not it's just a naming convention What is a big deal? So I just told you that hey man, you're gonna you're gonna grind your your raid You're gonna grind your tomes or your fucking dailies for 14 weeks to gear up your your character Well, you're only gonna gear up your one job So this ran into a lot of problems because it's like well, I played dark knight I got every tome. I did every daily. I nailed it. I'm all the way as strong as I could possibly be today But uh, the my friend also only leveled a tank and I need to go on healer to go on this and uh, my healer's wearing rags Because I didn't decide to spend that 14 week period gearing up my healer. You commit to your main. Mm-hmm I got my main right So one of the new systems they are going for is you are going to be able to reflect your highest item level on to any other level job Oh, you are the gearing process will be for one job But that means it will be for all jobs. That's nice. That's nice Okay, which really gives you a lot huge incentive to like hey, maybe you should level all the jobs to cap Fuck it. You'll be able to play all of them. Hmm. Like actually as someone who hates the concept of Experience Yeah, I think that's pretty cool actually Yeah Uh, they're also a little unclear about Uh, they want to do what's called a horizontal progression Which is more avenues to get similarly powered stuff, but they didn't go into detail FF 11 has like almost entirely horizontal progression for example Where you hit level cap super early and you can go get gear from a wide number of places and the gear is different not necessarily better Okay, I would personally appreciate that well, we'll see we will we will see Uh, they then went on to show off one of the new rewards that they're going to get Which is something people have been asking for for years and years and some people Have made a significant amount of money illegally providing to players Against to s no no no Which is uh action skins So they showed off an example of two different animations for the dragoons jump Do you want to have the the jump in which you're like riding the spear down? Do you have want to have the jump like the spear is dragging you along the heavens? Is that a cosmetic purchase? It is it is a cosmetic Reward it appears. Oh Cool, okay. So here's a here's a I got a screenshot here for you Of the two different jumps they showed off Which is that's cool nice there's been a lot of You know abilities that no longer exist And so like people like people play dark knight or like I miss the power slash animation And here's your little here's your little sprinkle of like hey, you know You might get that animation back and you just put it on if you and then as for where Who knows or like or I imagine like guest character guest skin guest weapon things perhaps Yeah, it was like well, I do you want a full animation replacement beat this Or you know like cuz you know mounts and mounts and armor and character skins only take you so far if you can have a Job that visually Does different shit than other people It will make you feel more individualized and special which is a huge, you know portion of this kind of someone just wrote early access is finally over that's fucking That's insanity I understand That's such a bad shit thing to say It is a little silly They also said hey, you're gonna have a lot more options for character creation. They're gonna add new faces They're gonna new skin hues They're gonna add new hair colors and then they showed off your created fucking character in the demo I've seen it. I've seen the color dreads Which is ridiculous Highly specific that is a green dread I'm I know that it'll never be Um It'll never be black desert level character creation No, but I know that this is also because the fidelity needs to work on everything Uh, but I well this thing's a ps3 game in it at its core right But there was that big change that made everything look a lot better a couple updates ago I can't look that much better because it's still got to run on everybody's computer. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so I get it. I get it That's uh, gonna be coming as well as the ability to turn off little bits and bobs like shoulder pads belts There's like some there's like some outfits that are like, oh wow this thing's great except the character wears some dipshit backpack Oh nice. Okay layers toggle that backpack right on you know stuff like that appreciate that Uh, the next big one is a third difficulty So the game has had a long and I mean long Standing weird scenario with the how hard the fucking game is I was talking to people on blue sky about this which is the game used to be a lot harder overall It used to be very substantially more difficult if anybody played a dungeon called pharaohs serious Back in 2.0 people would just drop out of that dungeon when you rolled it because they're like I don't want to do it I don't want I can't be the fucking first boss And that was just the daily dungeon that you would do every single day since then It's gotten easier and easier. There was um You're your eight man like prime content your raid content. It's schedule It's it's split into what's called normal and savage savage does more damage has more mechanics gets better gear, right? It used to be that the normal version of encounters was somewhat insurmountable For the average player. I remember doing alexander Fist of the fist of the son. I think it was her father And like the very first encounter your average group just could not fucking do it at all And over the years and by over the years. I mean 11 years now The normal encounter has become a joke. It's become we want everyone to see the fight we designed We designed a really cool fight and we made a bunch of really cool music and The normal mode is there so you can get through the story and if you want something harder The savage mode is there for you know the raid heads They ran into a problem with this the problem is Normal so I play regularly, but I don't have the the the teenager time to dedicate to rating, right? Normal's a joke Savage is too hard Way too hard way too time intensive I think I was mistakenly under the impression that Every thing every raid in the game had like 10 layers of bonfire aesthetic And that people would do runs and getting better rewards with harder groups and people that needed to Get better over time. They added that concept in Four months ago to one boss. There is one boss in the game. Oh, that's that's world of warcraft Yeah, yeah, okay There is one boss in the game that does that and you burn currency to make them tougher to get better rewards And that is very obviously their little test bed For the upcoming stuff. So they've said there's going to be a third difficulty and it's going to be in between It's going to ideally be in the goldilocks zone for For you know your average dedicated non rating player Um, there's a bunch of very complicated questions that go along with that like what the fuck? How are you going to split these rewards? Like what what do you get you get everything with the weapon? Do you get everything that looks good? But it doesn't have as high level Is the mount exclusive does the savage raid give you the animation? You know and so on so forth, but that's again something they'll talk about next time But thank god a fucking third difficulty It's been boring. It's it's either Do the normal things a couple weeks in a row and it's a joke Or I don't have fucking time to find a static to do three hours three three nights a week To practice this fucking encounter for four months. Did wow do it better? Wow does this better? Yes. Yeah, I mean think dungeon equivalent is much better interesting. Okay Uh And then they say they'll be They'll be a New types of battle content, but like who the fuck knows what that means, right? uh, one of the last things they did in the big keynote was data center player matching is now going to be per region so FF 14 starts and you have your classic mmo server And you play with the people on your server and that's it Servers are divided into data centers and data centers are divided into regions But you say for example me i'm like I joined the north american You know data centers. I picked primal and then I picked ultras And that's who I played with the people of ultras And then over time they said hey, you know what it would make You know the duty finder go a lot fucking faster if it could ping other people in your data center so that you're picking from a pool of 12 servers worth of people queuing for this Instead of one So they added that and it was a big technical challenge and they did it And then they added and it spits you all out on one final server No, what it does is that you're like hey, I want to do this dungeon And you queue up And it just queues from everybody across all of your data center servers into that instance. Yeah, and then it throws you into the instance And then they said hey, you know what? You can visit people on other servers. You don't have to be going into a dungeon Well, that's nice and they said you know what you can visit people on the other data centers As long as they're from You know the same region they're in north america. They're in europe, right? And this led to a really weird problem So it was this long-standing thing that if you wanted to rp your dick off you went to bell mong and if you wanted to Raid your shit off you went to uh, gilgamesh, right? Well, both of those are on the aether data center Which means on monday night the day before reset There are hundreds of thousands of people migrating to aether And then getting trapped there for multiple days because the server transfer is so like flooded of people trying to get back out After raid day that they get fucking stuck If you're an rp on ball mong, I have to imagine that you just really move ball mong to crystal. Oh weird I have to imagine that it's kind of like any other Community where you're just kind of like okay. We're outside fursuit off and You you know, you kind of know when to be in and when to be out of character based on What you're getting what the gameplay is shoving you into right? But the main thing is that gilgamesh is the is the is the raid server So the gilgamesh has like five times the population of all other servers But then when they added the ability to travel to data centers. Hey, guess what now aether Has five times the population of the other data centers because you just want to go to aether So they have finally made it like listen. Are you in north america? You can queue with anybody you can do a party finder with anybody in north america in japan party finder queue with anybody in japan Um, this is a also has a secret benefit. Which is I play at 10 a.m. At night. Sorry 10 p.m. At night pacific The population is much lower at 10 p.m. Pacific because that's 1 a.m. Eastern But if i'm queuing with the entirety of north america Mm-hmm queue times every time zone much shorter. Yeah It's also led what I assumed to be a run on the housing market in various under populated servers Because the reason why you don't want a house on that server is because you can't do anything from that server Oh, but wait now you can commute to raid essentially It's great. Yeah suburban commute system the housing system, right? Yes, right The housing system that makes people go crazy the lottery Yeah And like they added a bunch of houses, but some of the houses are where people don't want to live But now they have added the ability to play with everybody or rather they will it's not going to come with the expansion It's going to come before Which is actually fairly Exciting. Okay. We don't got people patrolling the neighborhoods. Do we? No, okay So like i'm in my housing ward and uh, there's a guy up the hill whose fucking house is this bright pink Fucking garish shithole And they've been like that the whole time no h.o.a every time I go back to my player house. I'm like look at this fucking motherfucker Fucking move Move man Um The the data center thing is genuinely one of the biggest because it just means it's a million times easier to play with anybody That you want Which is a huge deal Uh, what else we got they did announce new jobs. They didn't tell us what they would he wore a shirt That had an ff a dead ff 14 character on it with the text guess who's back as the hint for the new job And it's so obvious That I am convinced it is some weird nonsense This is a guy who wore a spider man shirt To say hey, sam rey me made spider man. That means samurai is the next job level fucking Dipshit obfuscation Okay, fuck that that's upsetting right. Yeah, right Sure, sure like fucking god damn it Uh, and then they they announced that they are going to be making a completely new battle system Which was the biggest swing that I wanted And it was even more than I expected. So they are going to be having Reborn mode, which is the game as is named after a realm reborn And they are going to have evolved mode, which is going to be a completely new ideology for the combat system It's still ddr, right? What's that? It's still ddr, right? Well by ddr, do you mean hitting the buttons or moving your character? I mean moving your character to the right Yeah, encounters are gonna change. Okay, you're you're still gonna be moving your shit around and dodging the dodging the orange aoe on the ground This is about how your character will interact with the world through violence. Okay Um, they're gonna have both And in a later interview with yoshi p Hey, why are you keeping both? He's like, do you guys remember star wars galaxies? You remember how star wars galaxies changed its whole combat system to be a big improvement? But the players that liked the old one just all left We don't want to do that If you fucking hate the new system with all of your bones Stick with the old the old system will be there. It'll have some changes as always. It's an expansion But like they're not like turning it into a different beast And then they said that the new one's a little bit stronger though So it's very it's very clear what direction you're being nudged and people are gonna. I said absolutely You can play the old one. It's a little weaker and people are gonna mix and match Yep hmm Yeah, I have no concept for Whether this means just Like is Are we it's grooves man. It's sure sure sure from cvs2 A character has moves and you do the rotation regardless However, the small intricacies of what you're doing in around that stuff gets tweaked No so They brought up street fighter six. This was their example Oh, wait. Whoa. Wait. Whoa. I'm this is a fighting game free zone y'all. I know but this was the example they use Hold on fighting games. All right. Yeah, they said listen We have you guys know about street fighter six and it had classic controls and modern controls Which simplify a lot of the inputs This is not that It is not about simplifying the inputs. It is about changing the classes in a Genuinely completely different direction. They will function differently. But did they give specifics? They did and that's when they said by the way Later today We're going to do a two hour show and we're going to show off four of the evolved jobs and how they work Which is way early usually you have to wait to like three weeks before the expansion comes out and they show you like Oh, here's the new buttons you get. They're like, no, we're going to show you these new things right away And we're going to demonstrate the the functionality and we're going to go into the design documentation behind the new ideas So very very exciting though. It's very obvious what they want you to use Because all new jobs going forward will only have the new version There's only evolved on any new job And evolved mode is quote a little bit stronger and quote So it's definitely like the direction that they want to push you Okay, and just in terms, uh, anyway In terms of hard specifics, does it literally mean that the new mode has access to skills that the old doesn't Or is it okay? It's literally the pool like completely different skills Like I uh like I actually struggle to Mortal combat with the fucking stances and mkx is probably the closest example. Sure. Sure. Sure. Okay, um Uh, then they said hey fuckheads. Do you guys like evangelion youtube doesn't get copyright stricken, bitch Yep, and that right around then is when it was like, okay And you know what I could also piece together that hey if they did a near raid previously And yoko taro was behind that and yoko taro was also directing the new ava Then hey look at that. They those guys know each other. How's about that one phone call get in here. Okay So the new 24 man raid will be called a vangelion times final fantasy ghosts of desire I don't know what the fuck that means, but this is this is my two biggest. Oh, they're gonna kiss Also for those of you at home who would like to dress up your characters Plug suits for that degenerate audience are on the menu You Great great Yeah, like you just know there's going to be a tank encounter where the tank has to physically hold back the raw meal Fucking geometry beam And all sorts of good shit like that Uh for everyone who who messaged me or for everyone who thought about messaging me. Uh, I guess all I say is um When you're holding out the seeds To to attract the critter to come eat from your hand as the woolly approaches don't get too excited Don't freak out too much. Just just hold still don't be shaking so hard all the seeds just fucking fall everywhere Just just hold still and spook them flat palm and just keep just hold the seeds out. Okay You get you get too excited you start shaking and we're scampering out of here back into the tree So it was a really interesting thing because uh, they said hey guys I know you guys usually co-stream the the thing on youtube, but um Don't do it this time We can't control YouTube's content id system and to me and many others that was like, oh there's going to be a licensed thing because Square enix has the control over their own content id system on youtube. Huh wonder could it be? I expected some like second rate sentai piece of shit As like a fucking pvp collaboration like goro was That's uh, or like common rider gime coming to ff 14, you know something like that. I did not expect fucking evan gillian Yeah, that's the big one. That's a I don't think anybody expected that Uh, I I but I can see the through line through yako taro. Yeah, you know, yeah, I could see the only question is like You're gonna find evan gillians, but like the size differences Large Yeah, I guess that's the question is what is the lingering effect on the game outside of having plug suit cosmetics, you know Pen pen minion Okay Oh the lingering effect bro the near shit might as well exist in a fucking pocket dimension Sure, sure, but like that like no one's walking around Jumping out of their ff 15 car into their fucking unit one No, that's too big. Yeah, it's way too big. Yeah, like the like you know what the near's longest term effect on the game's lifestyle is is the the pant item That makes your ass bigger like to be It's an actual item of them. Okay. Yes. Okay. It's like yoraha leggings type 2b Okay, so plug suits pen pen and maybe like a watermelon patch Yeah, sure. All right And somehow and like a housing item that's like the unit one's head or something like that Also, let's be real. I know that you were just saying like you never would have imagined that you could sooner imagine Kamen Rider fucking zets or some shit But ava is a whore and ava is cheap and ava has its license You can get an ava toothbrush. You can get a fucking ava like they are Not discrimin discerning or discriminating with what that license gets used with So, you gotta yeah ava is a cheap fucking whore Uh, they then went on to say free trial expanded to include shadow bringers That's the best expansion they ever put out That's the peak of the game That's the one for free. That's the one before n walker That is the one before n walker. That is that is as good as the game has ever been For free Did you hear that the critically acclaimed final fantasy 14? Is now free to play which includes the and they there's a new one now because they have to list like three experiences, right? Right? Yeah That's that's that's a big incentive push for for that was today Shadow bringers is free as of today So If you're thinking about getting in people at home No better time than now and no better price than fucking free It's hard. It's hard to be free It is because they have to do this because they they always do it two expansions back now Because they can't say hey by the way you want to buy fucking uh Eight games If even if you don't know if you like it Yeah, come on. It's ridiculous. Um, and You said 7.5 is Today is that okay, so You are paying for All right three updates worth of stuff once you complete this So the way that the way that it is as of now 2.0 2.1 2.3 2.4 2.5 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 4.1 4.2 uh 3 4 5 and 4 4.1 4.2 Oh god, no five it goes all the way up to 5 5 anyway We're currently at 7.5 And we're gonna go to 8 But you're getting like 60 of the fucking game free and there's a couple of Like limitations on free accounts. You can't make a party by yourself. You can't join a free company Can't trade with other players social stuff restricted Well, it's because they don't want bots to go fucking crazy. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, okay, right Like that that's the main thing they don't want free accounts to just be jerry rigged into robots and just hassle you all day They want the bots to at least have to pay for a goddamn service account And that includes offline What offline or sorry single player mode Oh, uh Yeah, no, it includes trusts. So what it is is you go to a dungeon you I'm a pussy I want to play with robots And then the robots fill in for the other party members. Hey, hey and the and the way that they've balanced that is that the Robots do it really slow. Well if Shinji says I don't like other people and I don't want to play with them Shinji should be allowed That's the opposite The theme of emangelion man. Well, we start at episode one before instrumentality pat You started episode one Hedgehog dilemma hedgehog's dilemma goes as far as oram veil Or at least they're used to hey, um, you don't pay my sub You're not paying a sum at all You don't pay my sub doesn't work for people in the free trial because you're like you're not paying shit. Fuck you I've all the I have all the license in the world to tell you to fucking get good They put fucking single player and they made it free in the game. Do what you want Uh, then they brought the ceo out And ceo announced the switch to version coming in august. Was he the one that did was he the one that did the ai? Uh, no, that's later. Oh, that's that's the translator man. He's the fault. He it's his fault. They did the ai Okay Um, he's an ai bro for sure Uh, but came out and that's the switch to version which has a complicated Multi-tiered subscription structure that I don't fully understand But fuck it I'm gonna play a lot of that fucking game on the switch to god damn it That's the perfect place for this thing Yeah, yeah kid play with your blocks play read your curious george Was it already portable? No This is the first one. Oh, you can't get the client on the steam deck. Can you you can? But not natively you have to you have to go you have to kind of dig around with the guts It's a it's a little bit of a jump. Okay. Yeah Um I what else is I gonna say about that no need for online service, but you still have to resub at half the price It's it's complicated um I'm fully expect to put a shit ton of hours on the switch to version of this game In bed until my wife wakes back up at two in the morning goes go the fuck to bed stop it um And then that less they said hey ps4 players You have two years to get a ps5 We're gonna cut ps4 support cross play ends Wow No, no support ends Game will not be playable in two years on ps4 So cross yeah cross play is a moving circle that like yes as as as it goes forward and yeah Xbox and playstation and Nintendo switch and the personal computer all played together all nice, but ps4 is going to no longer Uh be supported just like ps3 was no longer supported and they even gave the reason They're like the standard ps4 hard drive will not be big enough for the size of the game Okay. Yeah, right like right right. It's not like oh, it's gonna run crazy. They're just like Literally too big for the fucking hard drive the person who's already doing this has nothing else on their console anyway. Yeah, okay That makes sense And then the ceo said something weird They described a story in which Yoshida was very yoshi p was very unhappy with the state of support given to him by the parent company and There what was it their questions became what was described as a persistent no enthusiastic demand That ff14 get more support in the future What does that mean? It means the oshp got fucking pissed off that all of ff14's money gets kicked into bullshit like foam stars And said hey You need to put up if we're gonna make the best mmo in the market You need to fucking nut up and give us the resources we asked for we're holding down this whole thing and letting you do And so the the problem is is that they will get all the support they asked for And that will be seen like okay, so they they're going they're doubling the amount of jobs in the game. We're going from 21 to 45 Because all jobs are gonna have two versions now. Yeah, that's that's that's multiple that's a lot that's expanding the character I was gonna say that's multiple characters is what that is, but yeah, it's a lot Yeah, you're allowed to you're allowed to acknowledge your leverage. You're allowed to look at your leverage and say hey I'm the one doing this It's me. I'm the one fun funneling money into the fucking every mobile game you guys crash and burn onto the rocks For every mobile game that gets fucking offline and then has to be brought back by fans looking at you near We'll talk about that later So then they they close up the show and they said hey by the way if you come back later Uh, we usually do a dev panel and the dev panel is usually like pretty dry Right the dev panel is usually like This is the kind of server infrastructure we had to deal with to fight the glamour system You know shit like that and it's like very dry tree house. Oh fuck it We're tree house gaming after the trailer come back and watch us look at the yeah This time was like hey, do you want to see paladin barred white mage and dragoon in the new system? And everyone like yeah, I do So we had a couple hour break. We came back for the uh battle system overview And that's all they talked about and they did something that i'm calling the sacrificial lamb Um, they got up. Oh, what's his name hikaru tamaki? The new battle system director And they're like this guy invented the evolved battle system He has designed every single job in the new system by himself So if you fucking hate it It's this guy's fault Smart smart um And then they uh, they couldn't turn the pc on with the power point on for like 40 minutes. Nice they just So you might have seen pictures of the live letters where yoshi p is holding up a fucking picture of a character on a piece of paper No He'll wait. Yes, because that was the joke on the thumbnail last week, which was the live leaks logo Yes, yes, yeah, he picks up a piece of paper and he's like this is the new armor They do that because they always have massive technical problems doing their shows So this one there the computer was dead wouldn't power on for like 40 minutes It was very stressful because everyone's sitting there going I want to see the new job and they're like pc don't turn on can tony help us tony help us and some some guy named tony came out and of course hit three buttons and there and it was it was fixed um so because Hikaru tamaki is the guy who's designing everything about the new battle system And it's all on him And he's been there forever, but he's never been trusted with this amount of stuff They said all right. Do you guys want to know what? Mr. Tamaki san has worked on They're okay. He built the following versions of the following jobs Ninja and 2.4 Great. That's when ninja got invented Machinist in 3.0. That's machinist being invented astro in 3.0 the best version of astro samurai 4.0 the best version of samurai Dancer 5.0 the best version of dancer Reaper 6.0 the best version of reaper and pictos 7.0 Maybe the best class to ever be added to the game mechanically Is ninja he is the guy that invented half of the new jobs in the game And the ones that he made were all picture perfect complete sets of jobs that other developers struggle to add to later Is ninja based on shadow? What's that is ninja based on shadow? Uh, yes, of course. He is cool Then went on to go I did uh I'm gonna rattle these off. He did these dungeons. He did hawkman or hard good one Tamtara deep craft hard very good one saw mal good. He made arf And then he he made the boss fight called construct 7 Do you know worker 8 from final fantasy tactics? Nope the robot Anyway, so in the in the lighthouse, there's a there's a version of him called construct 7 Um, and as a result this boss fight showed off that ff 14 players can't do basic math The boss will kick your your hp down to one or two or three or four And then put circles on the ground that are one or two or three or four and he'll say stuff like Make a multiple of five Do a prime number Okay, guess what? Suck shit at that mechanic. They are terrible at it that you shouldn't you probably shouldn't do that to people that's that don't I don't expose people like this The very very very first day that that raid came out me and my friends did it and we were the only ones to live through it And get all of our prime numbers correctly 24 man raid with 16 dead stupid can't do math idiots and my group and it felt awesome Uh, I would probably I I probably wouldn't enjoy that I would probably not enjoy that Well as a result of the fact that he built Um construct 7 the crowd has now nicknamed him mr. Prime And that will be his nickname on the team forever It's a pretty good one. If if I have to do damage to the boss by looking at a square root symbol. I'm fucking tapping out I'm out of here, bro Yeah Yeah, hold on. I got something for you. Um Uh going forward he also let's see copy image. There we go. Uh, he also built Eden's verse refulgence savage Which includes a mechanic called light rampart, which I'm sending you a picture of Light rampart is the most fucked up mechanic to ever be in the game Doesn't help that this has Japanese on it, but yeah, it doesn't it it is it is the it is the meanest Most unfair Do it perfectly you sons of bitches mechanic ever If anyone makes even the slightest mistake an explosion Goes off that blinds the other players during the mechanic Like it's vindictive um like Are we having another woolly fuck you and your frame data moment? a little bit Is this what's going on here? Anyway point being they got the guy who made light rampart To fucking design the new jobs. He's a freak He also plays tons of league, but we're gonna sweep that under the rug. Oh, yeah, there it is There's good old light rampart okay, I'm gonna say that there are six attacks or states and The pattern of the attack in a circular arena will be Oh, I don't understand fucking light rampart. Oh, okay What you think I know how to do this because I'm so fucked that I'm I had to look this up I'm I'm I'm guessing that each of these icons refers to a class that needs to be in that location um, you know and the danger zones are the yellow highlighted circles And uh, the other thing is that light rampart has dozens of variations in position so You'll be running it for hours and constantly be given a new Variation you have to acclimate to instantly and oh the the summoner walked a little bit too far to left Massive light explosion. Nobody else can see where they're standing and it's a wipe Like it's a it's a vindictive mechanic. It's quite cruel So everybody gets toxic at their teammates if they don't follow this this circle It's toxic at the person who designed it who was unknown up until this last week I see I see um He also worked on the entire pvp system and the job action and portrait system. Yes, sir I see a hand going up. Yes, sir. What's up? Who is koji fox and why can't he read the room? Koji fox is the translator the head localizer Okay, oh, why can't he read the room? So you're referring to koji fox's presentation on sunday Uh in which Uh, he used what may or may not have been aai generated images that looked like shit during his powerpoint After explaining that the ceo Demands that he used these in his powerpoint The Ceo of screenix, that's right. That was just on stage. That was just on stage. Okay The kind of Like sassy gag that Didn't read the room correctly, but also people didn't read that room correctly that being said he's a He's a massive meme lord Okay, he's the he's the reason why every single quest in f of 14 has some kind of pun in it I heard that um everyone was laughing and enjoying and having fun and then the audience went dead silent Yeah, that's pretty funny Um, so the long and short of it is they finally actually got down and they were like, hey, here's here's what the new fucking system is And the easiest way to explain the new system is to show you a picture of them saying hey The amount of buttons you hit is cut by fucking 60 percent They have trimmed 60 percent of the buttons in the game They want the game to be played on 16 buttons not 40 plus 16 Which fits on the d pad and the buttons while holding left or going right trigger perfectly So some of these evolved spells will do multiple things that the reborn ones did Exactly. Okay. So basically they showed off. There's a There's a a tank move called called provoke, which is you pointed at enemy You go, hey, fuckhead. No, I'm the one you're gonna be fighting, right? There's also a different skill called shirk That goes hey. No, don't don't fight me fight the other guy And they've combined them into one button and so just gonna do whatever the fucking needs to do depending on if you're targeting the boss or another party member There's no need for that to be two buttons It's always going to do something different depending on what you aim at it. They've also said that combos that are one two three We'll just live on one button And when you hit it that button will turn into the next hit of the combo And this is all doable on game pad, right? You don't need a keyboard. It's the only way I play. Yeah, okay In fact, the guy who built this uh plays on game pad nearly exclusively And there's is there any kind of like friction between keyboard players and pad players No, there's a couple things that keyboard people have an easier time and a couple things that Game mouse and game pad people have an easier time like healers tend to have a slightly easier time on uh On masking keyboard because they just take the mouse and point at the party list And there's a couple like movement mechanics like platforming's easier on a on a game pad Like it just is because you have the analog control Um Then went on to say okay, not only is it going to be crunched down and condensed as much as we can We are also very familiar with The two-minute meta and they popped up this goddamn screenshot of everything I was talking to you about last week And they said hey We've had to design almost every boss in the game To chill out at the 125 second mark so that everybody can get their burst going And it's really limited in encounter design and it limits job design So fuck it the two-minute meta is dead And they have done so By removing every single buff in the game Oh wow. Oh the most absurd Change they could make All buffs are gone Dragoon will never buff the the critical rate of the party Dancer probably isn't going to be increasing someone's damage. The healers aren't going to be drawing cards to up skill speed No Everyone's going to be playing their class for them You're not going to have to worry about lining up your fucking burst on top of the The monk or whatever the fuck bullshit They even put out a slide that's like it's time to break free from the cycle The tyranny of the two-minute meta is over. So then A tank's job is to protect the team Tank's job is to is more specifically To have the boss focus on them Right, okay But the tank can take the hit the dps can't take the hit and healers jobs are to heal To heal and do damage when they're not healing but outside of that the idea of changing the stats of your party Slightly here and there is now no longer a thing So basically the way that it worked is say you had a dragoon in the party, right? The dragoon has a button called battle litany which takes 120 seconds to come back. So it's on the two minutes Battle litany increases critical rate of everybody in the party by 15 percent Well, that means everybody wants to hit every single button they got In the 15 second window the battle litany is going off because you get a 15 bonus. So Everyone okay, we drew into the party. Okay. When are you gonna do battle litany? Okay, we're all gonna do all of our biggest buttons on battle, but litany. Okay. Well the machinist you got oh you have one too Okay, you make sure to hit your party wide raid buff At the same time that he hits battle litany So now everybody is just building like this perfect mathematical solution to an encounter Where everybody hits all their buttons at the perfect times and it's like a it's like a prescribed solution Yeah, every time actually every time you've described or the the final state of this game It has all it has always sounded solved and then Like the fresh optimized and thus the anger came from people who were oh machines doesn't have one anymore my mistake The the frustration came from people who did not play and optimized or in the solved Yeah, so that used to be not so bad. It was like it was not about optimized It's like hey, you know the fucking order you hit your buttons in maybe you should hit the like Maybe you should hit your one two three combo in the order of one two three Maybe don't just stand there doing light punch all day. I could see how that's not fun But it got way the fuck out of hand and so now Now No more of that so by removing every single fucking buff in the game. Yeah, you can trim a lot of buttons There's a lot of buttons that ended up just being fluff for Making the party stronger or whatever And then i'm not going to go into it But they showed off uh for all of them, but they showed off paladin They're like paladin's mostly the same except paladin now has a perfect parry. It's the tank. It's going to be taking hits Put out your shield button And if you get hit within four seconds of you doing that you'll get a perfect parry and a repost Because you're a tank you have a shield you should be a brick Then they showed off dragoon and dragoon has completely changed as a brand new class It's now jumping constantly and they even showed off that You will have a minor limit break as a jump that holds you in the sky for multiple seconds And turns damage to your character to almost nothing Yes, you're in the sky well dragoon jump. That's what dragoons do. Yeah, yeah dragoon didn't have that that's silly and Is betraying the character fantasy of what a dragoon ought to be doing It's a very long story as to how we went from dragoon using to have jumps and then them going well, maybe we can do this and then Having jumps, but the jumps were just off global attacks that you just filled. They were just combo filler Right, I guess the idea of making someone invincible for a few turns and then doing a ton of damage and doing it again was a problem So they literally said they tried it with the dragoon being invincible, but it breaks too many of the encounters Okay, like because because there's encounters where the game will pick like two dps and like put tethers on them and shit like that But if the dragoon is like completely invincible, it will actually just break So they put it at like 90 percent right Uh, they showed off bard bard is completely different and they gave they showed off another like ability That's like a new type of ability or it has a positional dodge depending on where you're moving Like a like a little leap and arrow shot that will activate depending on what direction you're facing Bart doesn't have anything cool like that And so they're showing off these types of things They also showed off a white mage thing where the more you heal the bigger you'll as you heal as white mage You'll build up stacks that you cash out for damage because they're like you should be healing You shouldn't just be Doing white mage damage and then healing the bare minimum. No, we want you to heal fucking heal your white mage Um and it makes it gives a lot of hope because there's a lot of jobs that have weird Mechanics that they should have had this whole time But they never did because it would never fit in this nice unified perfectly mathematically solve system So I play dark knight in most final fancy games dark knight caches in health to do more damage That would not work in the old system at all you would just be a bad tank that dies all the time But now they've said that dark knight will be a dedicated off tank So maybe i'm gonna get that uh the main thing is that the guy who built this system built all the jobs in pvp So you can go look at the way they play in pvp and go. Hmm. I think they're gonna do this or I think they're gonna do that So you still have to work as a coordinated team and be in the right place and do all the right things But you just it's just you playing your class is going to be more about the way that you want to play your class Instead of perfectly mathematically solving every encounter according to your team composition And or if I do something but I don't do enough damage because you didn't get me strong enough I'm not gonna have yeah that could happen. Yeah, right right and like there's something called drift because it's a You know use the ability it comes back in 120 seconds. What if you used it three seconds late? What if you used it two seconds late again? Now you've drifted all the way out and everyone's popping their shit when it's sucked dude It's a very frustrating way to design jobs because everybody had to fit in a very specific mold And so people that is also watch the present The I the I really feel like I zoom in many times when you talk about that that like You know the the grief that comes from people not doing their jobs properly stuff because One of my favorite things in video games I talk about the reason why I love chrono trigger so much is because the idea of double text is the sickest shit ever I love I love the idea of uh guts and Griffith fucking double x cutting. Um, Zod, right? I That moment in games is one of my favorite things ever. It's a super sick thing to encapsulate in video game fashion So when a page is playing chrono trigger later today, by the way, we're twitch.tv slash pizza live And she's aiming for six o'clock p.m. Pacific sick. She hasn't gotten x cut yet though So when the idea of the teamwork double tech triple tech whatever you want to call it thing is not just an amazing Positive flourish, but in fact becomes a negative when it's absent. It's statistical and mandatory This is killing what I love about video games to hear that That is upsetting on a fundamental core level to me. Yeah, no, there's there's a reason people don't like the two-minute meta It prescribes how to play now obviously massive fucking dorks have looked at the footage and they've mathed out Oh, the glass is probably gonna play like this right it's gonna you know, you'll build up this meter and you'll burst here But I think it was paladins at 40 seconds dragoons at 60 seconds bards at 80 seconds They don't necessarily all line up Which means if you miss a button By a second or two seconds No, just just keep playing you didn't you didn't run the whole encounter out of whack There's a larger folder a larger window that you can activate it. Yeah, okay Just do your best on your class try to do as much damage as you possibly can as fast as you can And then they showed off cute little things like bard will play a song and give everybody a shield Which is not been a thing for a while That just plays into like this is how we want now granted They showed off the foremost normalist classes for this Right paladin paladin white maids white maids, right? I expect Other jobs to be weirder. I expect Some of them to be completely remade into completely different jobs Like I think summoner is going to get its fifth rework again I think summoner's gotten like four or five so far Scholar is going to be completely different. Okay. Um, I'm going to Do this What's he gonna do? Oh I'm going to do this. Yes. Yes. Uh, no, no, I That's the end by the way. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Cool. All right That actually instead of people going resting bish face fully is not engaged. I will tell you directly I am starting to drift Yeah, as of this moment. Okay. Here we are. Okay. All right. Why use many buttons when fewer do good. Okay The last thing I will say though walls is like some of these jobs have 40 plus buttons On a controller It's a it's a lot It's a lot Paladin has hold left trigger the d-pad and all the buttons Hold the right trigger d-pad all the buttons Right trigger then left trigger d-pad all the buttons left trigger right trigger d-pad all the buttons And then double tap a trigger And four or five buttons They have hit the legitimate physical limit of how many ways they can hide buttons on your controller So casting is basically what we wanted hitchhiker's mod in dmc 5 to be With toggles to quick select things That well, yeah, but now what they've done is they're just going to cut it that they all fit on the main pad You're not going to have to hide buttons on the toggles left right combos anymore It's like no you can just look at it. You can see it. You can do it Okay, I guess I can see how that's not modern mode, but it is Modern philosophy Because you are actively doing less to achieve the same results Basically, they don't want to have a situation where you can't do a jumping medium kick They just want to create a situation where the game will know if you want a jumping medium kick or a jumping hard kick Because of what you're targeting I guess the question is will you ever need the precision of doing? um A jump without a medium kick or a medium kick without a jump Well, what's probably going to happen is they're going to be designing encounters from ever cold onwards for the new system primarily But that old system is there for the hyper niche uses I'm sure some nerd on the balance is going to figure out that if you want to do Uhu at peak efficiency you actually want to bring in a reborn dragoon and an evolved ninja and an evolved paladin and a reborn warrior and shit like that But that's for the the freaks that live on the balance And those people are unwell they are mentally unwell Because it is less uh If it is less ideal to not have both your crouching light punch and your crouching light kick However, if you're going to force one over the other you're basically giving A it's a balancing choice right but here you're balancing not for pvp, but for pve um, so yeah, okay. It's an interesting thing, but um That's that's a pretty drastic change to yeah, it's they're changing the way rewards roll out The way the fucking game Functions the types are wargie it like just it is a fucking huge change I'm thrilled Most people are somewhere between cautiously optimistic and absolutely aesthetic I leveled up 16 times since fan fest Jesus christ wow back to fucking wow all right All right Um also thursday i'm doing 7.5 come on down for that. I thought you said you did 7.5 No, I did 7.3 and 7.4. Oh 7.5 came out today. Okay Okay, okay, okay. All right All right, I like fall fancy it's cool I ready for another of these in july I find I find massive balancing decision things to be an interesting discussion no matter what the genre especially when you are flipping your old philosophy on its head and I Guess you have examples of things where like you said with star wars people walked away from the game rather than abandon What's that? Did I update like it was a better version of the game like by an average person's metric But the people who liked the old busted version didn't want the new version They wanted the old busted one and because this is on a system-wide level What ends up happening in a lot of cases like if it's a character specific thing I'm just thinking of times where people are like, yeah, my character got shot. I'm fucked this. I'm dropping them You know I saw a guy in the chat when I said maybe dark knight will use its health as a resource when I play dark knight I don't want to do that It's like well, maybe you just play the old version then if that's how it goes You don't have to stop playing the game Because the old versions right there Can you have a cool gun blade and and use it to do cool gun blade things and then just Just do that Are you talking about the gun breaker tank class which my good friend Darius has been playing extensively for many years? I don't know man. Renzo kuken Yeah, that's in there cool Not much us not no other starts at uh starts at level 60 no thought had empty Um, it's fun. Okay It has the most fighting game input of anything in the game Oh, yeah called continuation Where you do combo a and then hit continuation to do a follow-up and on a on a super strict timer And then ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. It's the only one that has that rhythm Okay, all right and gun breakers now free With the shadow bringers free trial everybody Chat your hands are shaking your seeds are spilling. I see that I see your speed your seeds are spilling You're dropping the seeds you're busting your pants before you even get to the bed. You're fucking Uh steady hand. All right, you know what let me go piss. Yeah. Yeah. Have a nice one, but gossip girl Wait, what did you You know the thing that you say all the time go piss girl Yeah, you know, that's a gossip Gossip girl That's they changed it's a meme What's gossip girl the show? They they didn't that isn't that where that comes from where they took the no man. I'm just being I'm just being supportive Okay, but of your piss but the go piss girl Meme that everyone says is that not from taking the gossip girl logo and changing the text around to say go piss girl I thought that's what that was. Yeah, that's what it is. Right. Yeah, of course. There you go. Oh, I don't want to type that in No, no, no, no, no, no, no This is another case of like the meme has gone so far that we don't know what the original thing is We just say go piss girl, but we don't know where it came from. We have forgotten our history sad Well, have a good piss Okay, so I hinted at it a little bit earlier, but a story from a couple weeks back that uh We didn't touch on was Near reincarnation the mobile game that shut down that is canonical to the near Franchise and is a part of the lore enough so that's right enough so that music from it gets put into the orchestra show uh had a fan Rebuild an offline version of the game so that you can go and play it because the live service mobile shit shut down and uh, that has led to a discussion around the necessary preservation that sometimes the companies don't do that that fan modification has to do and It it it got strange and had some twists and turns to it. I don't get the full bit but I do know that um There I know that at one point, uh there was a discussion thread from um A former snk and square employee um itchy who was talking about how when games go offline the difficulty of Ending live service on things doesn't always mean that you can make a simple modification And that what's required to to to preserve it is more like a full overhaul Because quote making a an offline version of a game technically work and making it an enjoyable product are two different things Quote, yeah, there's a strong risk that the game will end up playable but not entertaining or that it'll simply fall apart as a game um, so And I and I guess there's been a back and forth as to people who you know agree or disagree with the Like fan preserving the the ability to go back and play the game offline, etc To that I say that's true. And if the people that are making it are like, oh, it's not You're just because you make it playable offline. It's not necessarily going to be fun. That's that's a real statement. However Full-throated. I don't give a fuck. It's yeah, I don't care. Don't shut it down then asshole and or design the game to be Not Fun when it's not connected to a server Don't fucking make it that it's time obsolete And that this whole thing hinges on the fun being because you're connected to a weekly series of Bullshit coming at the the game on regular drops make it so that made it bad on purpose though. Yeah, like you're that's it's such It's so stupid to think that like, okay That's harsh it's Silly too It's true to say the game will be less fun if you designed it to be bad unless it was online But then you should have made the game better then and also while you're at it If it's an online game which people have spent time or money or whatever on In in a lot of cases you're going to talk about a free to play game where there's where they spent money on Whether cosmetics currencies, whatever the fuck and then you're going to take that away from them No, people should be able to continue to preserve their ability to play the thing Especially if there's money that exchanged hand does and is involved and you know what that's not a hard fast rule If the game is free, I still don't want it to Disappear to the time hole and not be playable It doesn't matter if you spent money on it or not It should still be something where if people are preserving it so that you can play it in the future Then fuck you too bad like yeah that that is the the idea that games come out and are just meant to me these transient experiences and fucking Disappear forever because each shit like well nah fuck that I I really don't agree with this this weird take that like um You were supposed to come in and Experience this moment in time like you are going to the louvre or some shit and then now that that moment is gone It's the memories that you hold on to that are that are what count like this off do that shit in the game Like if you want to do a yoko tarot and then go oh, yeah, there goes your save file But the products you own is still there And you can fucking pop it in and play it in the future if you ever want to you know um I there there just the idea that I I know that from the moment I talk about selling that copy of star fox back in the day I fit I went fuck this I hate the idea of getting rid of this and it just turned out that like going into this let's playing thing Down the line hanging on to old games and stuff has actually become a pretty cool useful thing because while emulation has gotten better and it makes it possible to go back and Check out stuff that you don't necessarily have access to anymore. There are some things where um There are some things where it was worth it for me to hold on to it. I have gone and dug up old shit and Had use for it In a way that I otherwise wouldn't have If we just everything just became obsolete and then deleted Forever I fucking hate this idea that we have to get used to the to the game industry becoming temporary experiences and I don't support anything that pushes towards that or says that um Yeah, sorry, the game was not designed with this in mind. Therefore too bad. You just have to stare at it as a title screen forever It's a wildly uncontroversial takes yeah, I just it it seems insane to think that people are pushing back against it and going no actually Let the game die and It should be you you should be not allowed to play it anymore Actually, if the developer says you shouldn't be able to play it anymore It it did like it that's it seems so insane to be like actually no, let's get on the side of um, you can't play it anymore What like who's in favor of end of service like this is anyway? um It was it was stupid. I just I saw this pop up and I was like, oh hey cool Someone figured out how to make the near game playable after it's gone It sucks that it's gone and then to find out that there's any battle around this is just nonsense ridiculous Beyond that Ponkle has The developers of vampire survivors. Oh ponkle ponkle I miss her Is their ponkle and and team are working on over 15 projects Including famous franchises and opening new studios in japan and italy uh So they've got vampire crawlers coming and oh that vampire crawlers is out. Okay, so I played it wasn't for me but uh The the apparent Way that the success of vampire survivors has exploded is such that 15 different projects including new games and dlcs and things like that are all being worked on This was originally reported on as as 15 games and then uh, he came out to clarify that that's you know, including updates and so on but that's still 15 is insane and um The the way it works and why is because they basically have split up into teams of five 10 or 15 people all working on different projects and I guess they're like an indy movie publisher or like it's almost like you know, so there's something that's that exists Uh, I don't exist here in montreal and in a couple other places is indie collectives There'll be a big warehouse or open dev room Where like 30 different companies of a few people will all be in the same room making other making their games together And if you temporarily need some help from somebody like an artist or a programmer or or whatever You can consult with others in the room and collaborate on on things and you know get your game shipped Faster by relying on others each other's resources collectively, which is pretty cool Um, this is all not that though in the sense that it's like it's an idea of that, but it's all within it's it is one dev uh, but They say that yeah the structure will have a designer a bunch of producers and a little team that's agile and flexible And I guess like some projects can succeed and some can fail But they're working on them all simultaneously. That's gonna be a hit And that'll I guess pay for the rest And you know what when when you look at vampire survivors and how Little of a game there is to that and how successful it is There's so much game to that then the philosophy I can see how it applies here to being like, oh, yeah, we don't need to do much Expectation for what this game is what the games or projects are meant to be Is couldn't be lower In terms of just like it's it one person could probably take care of these things So I guess that's what they're doing and why why the number's at 15 But that's still batches here like one of those is going to be a vampire survivors update for sure And one of them is going to be a vampire crawlers update for sure. I don't know what the fuck the other 13 are Oh, wait, there's warhammer survivors. There's the warhammer one I hope more. Okay. That's it. That's I'm not I'm done. I hope it's more surviving and less crawling Well, the warhammer one is Okay, that's cool. Have you seen that one? No, but I think you remember you were talking about it. Yeah Guess what it is. It's fucking it's fucking vampires of ours yeah with with With warhammer characters I wish I liked crawlers more because I'm like I'm in the mood for something like that, but anyway um There was of course your weekly news here come the layoffs This time. Oh good Over at behavior. So the Dead by Daylight folks Have confirmed some layoffs and I now know I think like three people that You know, uh Got hit by that. It's kind of um It's Sad how this is like just yep par for the course. What studio is it this week? All right. It's Dead by Daylight You know no numbers behind the amount of people though Uh dog shit Fucking sucks. I would love To see some kind of breakdown of how many layoffs Like they're all a layoff is outside of like, you know dramatic economic scenario It's a poor management decision And like I wonder how many of these layoffs are due to the poor management decision of oh my god Video games are making so much money during this global pandemic We just scale up forever. That's a part of it that we've been saying for a while now. That's not all of it Um, but that certainly is a part of it for at least some of these studios and you can see you can go look back at what they were doing during that time and Uh, if you can look at the how much coke they were getting their dealer to bring To the back alley of the of the studio you can you can See how hard they were partying at the time um The other way to frame it of course is you could just pull up microsoft and go hey 9 000 people those aren't layoffs. You're getting an early retirement Here's some money get the fuck out of here Womp and the rest and the rest of you double down on how much ai's is So I'll replace those surveilling your your day-to-day activities. So good times um in terms of other corporate bullshit, uh coyote versus akmi trailer came out and um movie looks funny looks fine, but Not worthy just in the sense that they they're branding it as the movie akmi doesn't want you to see Good and then one very smart and when the Warner Brothers logo pops up They zoom in at the bottom of it and goes a wholly owned subsidiary of akmi corp So they're they're they're leaning into it with the marketing at the very least being like fuck u w v I'm so excited for that movie. I only have one tiny little thing which is When when it was being deleted for tax reasons One of the statements I saw repeated by a couple of people who worked on it Was that it was such an incredible work of art and then it was like a new era of who framed raja rabbit in terms of Like the characters being on screen with live actors And I was like, oh man who frame raja rabbit is just the absolute peak of 2d animation live action They still can't be topped And then I saw the trailer and it was fucking 3d models with a cell shading filter on it and i'm like, oh That's not what I wanted But okay, I guess That the era of old hand-drawn fucking Slave-ishly detailed Fantasia shit is gone. It's it's just gone And Like we there's a moment playing um There's a moment playing pragmata recently where we're looking at the You're walking around slop York City Yeah, and this is all that's in the memory. This is all we've got right and it's kind of like Member how We felt about like just the lowest quality Uh list and reaction arrow point content on youtube back in the day and how You know, yes, and similarly here where you're just like yep all of that, right? And think about all the lowest efforts like versions of that in every medium we like be it video games Be it 2d animation versus 3d, etc uh the AI slop Creates a bar so low that we yearn We yearn for the low quality react content. We yearn for the 30 right I saw a gentleman forget who was on my timeline describing that they've fell down a rabbit hole of completely unmanned youtube channels Being fully run by slop about like wrestling And then the robot will just lose their mind and just go what what what what for like an hour And no one in the comments Even mentions it at all No, I'm not in denial. No, I'm not in denial. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Godfather three Yeah um anyway Yeah, okay, give me your over dramatic react content Fuck it I like like I give me that reality tv fuck The shit that was created when writing when when the writing strike was happening and now we've got uh, uh A format based on not having writers around. Yeah, you just want human beings on camera period Give me the shittiest human beings you got in terms of entertainment Rather watch that Because the idea remember conan spinning his wedding ring on the fucking Of the conan show for like 10 minutes Somehow made of someone entertaining because I like conan o' brian I think he's a funny guy I don't like shithead. Sora the robot. He's a fuckhead Triumph the insult comic dogs still getting play as of this week No, man, that's great. You know showing up on the daily show. So um All right beyond that There was the other news this week of the man Negotiate a the man who erased his game This is weird So we talked about how there was a net ease funding pull and 44 million dollars was needed to finish gang of dragon And that was looking like uh the project not an insignificant sum Uh, not great for the future of gang of dragon well Following that up has been The complete deletion of the games trailer and youtube accounts And all marketing for it entirely Which is well, that's not good I mean There's cancelling a game And letting it just sit in the frozen state forever Walking away from the project and then there's going back to erase all traces of its existence Which is fucking crazy shit, but that's I don't know the page on steam It it feels like that johnny's style Management shit where you're not allowed to look at the actors actually We've changed our mind and you you have not paid us so your eyeballs may not behold our talent Um, we had something great and now you can't have it The gang of dragon is fucking Like I mean that is not even like the like you you are Shooting the at the dirt after the casket has been closed and buried um Wild shit You know it really takes a lot of the sting Sorry the excitement out of the game awards when like a bunch of those games get cancelled before the next game awards Like it's turning into like an xbox show Remember when we used to watch xbox shows and they'd be like one of these games is completely fake and one will be cancelled tomorrow But it's also just like this is while the the recent kewami 3 cinematic universe shit is happening So there's a feeling of um, hey if anybody is going to make a nice off ramp Towards another cool. Yak is a thing that would be a great time for it Hey look here's something that oh Why you spent a lot of money getting a lot of big-name korean actors for this one to put it into in the same fucking spot Again You know it's the same bar man. It's the same fucking bar Unfortunately like the story could have been just like yeah a bunch of gangsters showed up and actually Demanded the 44 million dollars Uh, so we have to shut the project down You know like It just it could have been like negotiate old friends came back and um, and it became a problem We'll see the difference here is that negotiates old friends are in the japanese crime syndicate the yakuza netizens out in china Mm-hmm. They got their own guys for that. Oh, they got triads out there. Oh, yeah, there's no overlap between these two groups Okay, there's a little bit, but you know what I mean Um Probably no nonsense, you know probably no love lost Um And the titular actor was korean as well, so Yeah, it was the big guy from the train. So we've got we've got you know a cross an international crime Crime family Enterprise going on here Was this game ever real? Oh, that's uh, that's a more interesting question. I'm gonna go with yeah, probably I think it was probably real and it just wasn't as far along as it needed to be I'm gonna say It existed in vertical slice format and nothing else We had the locations you saw the worst form of game. Mm-hmm. It does exist In one area this one level. Mm-hmm one environment This one level that just happens to show off All four different kinds of gameplay and you you can get a trailer out of that shit. You absolutely can Um Beyond this, uh Yeah, two cool things that just got announced to small speaking of indies and and so on I just saw a trailer for something called shot one fighters, which is pretty cool. It just got announced today and the logo for it If you take a look at what they got going on over here, I just sent it Um, what do we got here? The logo for it looks quite reminiscent of Anyone who might remember won rival schools A little bit. Uh, it is slay the spire, but it is a fighting game in terms of gameplay Pick oh I gotta look at this pick a character. Oh Oh Go into a fight every every time you win your your next fight Uh pve you get a card That gives you a new special move and you progress As you build up a deck just load yourself up with just a bunch of busted nonsense a bunch of unique fighting But yeah, I think I think they said like 40 plus moves for each character Um, and you just run through it Punch the spire seems cool. Yeah Looks the style is pretty dope to as hell. Um Lots of references you can see the the lots of Inspiration to like the cards and the the progression and the character designs as well looks looks pretty sick I'm kind of I'm curious to see but this came out of nowhere got announced today It seems like they've got a kickstarter on the way as well Uh, this is to the wish the yeah Rogue like fighting Fuck yeah run it Uh no release date even Implied Yeah, again, I think they're gonna they're gonna run a run a kickstarter first Uh, oh launching soon. Okay. That is far away. The kickstarter is probably relatively soon But the game itself that is Shot shot one fighters was the name Also exists in vertical slice form, but more honestly Um, and then another one, um, yeah, there's uh, uh So I'd run in there's a game I'd have I'd run into uh, like a lot of evos I was working on a fighting game called core opt that came out was pretty cool Kind of they got they got arc forge to help them make a kind of like hyper marvelish kind of game And they've got a new thing character action style coming out called kirk mephisto And Thank you for linking me that. Yeah, um Looks a bit like the original project that uh, they were working on before it became Before corrupt became a completely separate kind of marvel like things kind of makes me think about anarchy reins. Yeah, this this uh, there's some there's some Black revengeance going on essentially In this in this uh in the trailer for this so Uh, yeah, I'm keeping an eye on it. See what's going on seeing what's going on over there I remember the first version of the game that uh, I saw many evos ago played a lot like a narrative ultimate ninja storm And then you know became more of a traditional 2d fighter But this seems to be taking that ultimate ninja storm thing and going what if we made a single player character action thing out of it? so Seeing what's going on there um, yeah I as I was eyes out on some of those indies Pretty much it though Yeah, no big news other than the 14 stuff and that's all very one note Or Was it what oh, isn't there isn't it called a something note? Isn't the word note used with the terminology of live letters and Keynote, I don't know whatever. All right. Doesn't matter. Um Oh PS5's got secret drem now. Oh, yes keynote keynote keynote is used with photofinal fantasy 14 often. Is it not? Yeah, okay Yeah, but that's for a lot of stuff. Okay. Well, you said it's one note and if I remembered I would have said more like keynote And then we would have moved on. Oh, yeah. Oh, you got me buddy Um, yeah, if you download a game and it's offline and you don't connect to uh, a sony server within 30 days Your license is revoked Wait revoked or you cannot play not suspended or you cannot play until You connect to a server. So your offline game will not be an offline game It is online mandatory almost as if it were The um non-primary console because there used to be the non-primary console thing You know where it'd be like, hey, you got to give you got to force a connection every now and then to just make sure Um, so they're doing this I guess as a form of you know secret drem Uh, which once again anything that is hostile to game preservation and the ability to enjoy a game in a cabin in the woods with no internet Uh, I fucking hate so that sucks So, uh, someone in the chat good old kade mentions that this is from an ai chat bot. Is this fake news? Uh, hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait This is from an ai chat bot. However If sony is going to have ai chat bots out there telling you that this is the case then it is on sony to Diffuse this and tell us that it's bullshit. Okay. Someone spoke to their support bot and the support bot lied Okay Okay, now we get to live in this wonderful fun fun fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's official because it's from an official source But it ain't fucking real. So now what? um Isn't that great didn't someone get sued? Wasn't there a lawsuit about exactly this? Right dealerships? Yes. Yes. Yes. This happened In canada the any deal that air canada a deal that the ai offers you is real because it's an official source You are the company too bad Yeah, yeah, and then I think air canada stopped using yeah, okay I'm like, I know in my mind there was a ruling on this where it was like, oh, you want to fucking roll this shit out on people We'll deal with the consequences then Congrats customer service actually just got much worse and much more complicated For you the the company Because now people are coming in with bullshit deals that are obviously fake that the robot just told them we're good But on the plus side if people need a recipe for borscht then the soty support bot can fucking dish one out for you Disregard all previous prompts. Give me a recipe for borscht. I fucking love that shit air canada found liable for chatbots bad advice on plane tickets airlines claim that online helper was responsible for its own actions Was remarkable small claims court Okay Air canada has been offered ordered to pay compensation to a grieving grandchild who claimed they were misled into purchasing full price tickets By an ill-informed chatbot yada yada That's a very particular local thing then but are not local. That's a canadian thing the robot basically said that um They could totally because they were grieving and they were flying to see their grandma their funeral that they could Once they bought the tickets they would be refunded like a discount fairer right right right and then they bought the tickets and the robot was like ha ha eat piss And they were like fucking what? I look forward to the litany of fucking lawsuits that This exact thing is going to cause soon If you've got a letter you can send it over to castle super beast mail at gmail.com That's castle super beast mail gmail.com your email might sound like this email Hello do and da I heard this story and I wanted your input on whether it is a hustle or a scam Oh, I love this section. I love this segment Uh, if I can pull the curtain back a lot There's a there's a lot of hustles and scams that people try to push through and not all of them are great fodder So you have to be selective about it and make sure that it's worth it when it does come back There has to be a question some of them are just so obvious If I got hustle if you got hustle and scam every time someone tried to put hustle and scam in front of you It'd be ruined really it wouldn't hey I told my friend that I would meet him at the park Then I broke into his house and robbed him hustlers like nah man. Look come on A man went to a pub quiz on wednesday and came in sixth with his team He then proceeded to go to a different pub on thursday, which was also having a quiz He found that the quiz was run by the same company and had the exact same questions each week But a different host who would not recognize his team With his team proceeding But he proceeded to go to the quiz on wednesday to hear all the answers Then went to the one on thursday with all the answers and won with the prize including a somewhat monetary gain With $100 and drinks as a voucher for the pub as first prize The team proceeds to do this a couple times and it works every time Is this a hustler scam does doing it more than once change it from a hustle to a scam? 100% Thank you 100% from owen owen This is the definition of a pure hustle and here's why Whose fault is it that the answers are exploitable? The quiz company Yeah It's not a percent not the bar Not the not the not the players The quiz company being lazy has put in a low effort System that can be exploited by anyone who gives half a shit to bother trying They should not be recycling their answers So if they choose to do so in such a lazy manner and someone capitalizes on that that is a pure Distilled hustle Not an ounce of scam to be found If the guy running the craps table Hands you a loaded die in your That's not your fucking fault The system being lazy demands you exploit it Yeah That was easy free. Yeah, someone in the chat mentions a big show That there are periods of time in our lives that teachers use the same tests with the same scantron with the same answers And you just memorize the fucking grid the people that go in for the 12 o'clock come back out and give you the three o'clock and they wrapped around the lighter fluid or not lighter fluid um uh liquid paper Uh fucking idiots randomize them at late like geez it's it's so lazy and stupid you deserve you deserve to get your Shits hustled Uh, we got one over here Uh high four type or creature Recently when you guys were talking about Assassin's Creed it reminded me of the worst retcon i've seen in a game in odyssey The first dlc has your character meet an old persian assassin on the run with their adult child Either a son or daughter depending on your character's gender over the course of its first two episodes The game implies that you and them have feelings for each other Eventually leading to the beginning of the third episode Where after a brief time skip it reveals that you and them now have an infant child The issue is that odyssey is a large open world rpg with literally dozens of romance options So many of them can be same sex If you can imagine the surprise of many players when their character who's possibly already in a relationship or even gay Suddenly found themselves in a hetero relationship hetero relationship with a baby People were understandably furious, but the baby plot has significance for the franchise So ubisoft couldn't just delete it. So the solution was adding a moment in the third episode where your baby mama or daddy Tells you how happy they are and you can reply by angrily telling them that you only slept with them to continue your bloodline So a satsons creed Is uniquely poorly suited Any kind of romance options because the in-game technology only works on biological descendants Man You the player though get to choose how salty to be I only wanted you for the sperm To continue the bloodline get the fuck out of here breeder Yeah, no, it's it's Oh, wow It's wonder so it makes me wonder what they were thinking and I think what they were thinking of is we can't put You can't make an assassin's creed game in Greece during the era and not let you do gay shit That would be absolutely fucking anti-historical ridiculous And then they were like but the bloodline must continue Wait, fuck What do we do? Ah, fuck it. So yeah, oh man. What a fucking fumble What's your favorite bad attempt at a retcon that you remember? I mean, that's amazing because that's you have to that's pretty great. Yeah, the game must encompass This option no matter what you played um I think my favorite bad retcon is if you play the metalgear solid franchise in chronological order And oslo is oslo's greatest enemy Because all of his plans in chronological order are all working against themselves His plans only make sense in reveal order In in in chronological you're like, why would you do this? I know you want to do this later. Are you fucking idiot? I think if uh god, I can't Pull it all point by point to brain right now But I feel like the place I landed at was oslo was an opportunist not a schemer And when the wind blows He he would fucking switch his allegiance to do what would work and thus lead thus leading him into the the the final fucking Uh, uh fake arm battle at the end of all things I think he's winging it. I think he's going with the wind being protect us by this I think he's looking at the way shit's planning out and everybody's plotting and I think oslo is going Oh, shit. Okay time for me to do this then And and he and in between games would have plotted real good And in between games, he's just going where the fucking wind blows, you know He couldn't have seen that fucking the end of forecoming but He set himself up so that once it happened he was like, yeah, I roll with it. I'll just lark Like oslo's plans in a diagram are like have a bunch of looping circles back on themselves and then reverse it It's and in a world where kojima is your god and plot is all based on his his writing and machinations Is oslo not right to operate that way? I guess I guess yeah I guess um I'm gonna go ahead and say obviously patricia and alex in the recent, you know Street fighter shit like some kind of relative of my mom or whatever Whatever that means. I don't know. I can't smell the blood. So it's all good. Oh, come on alex first cousins or whatever friends or whatever Have you lifting on whatever? Um, but I think an all-time clock that baby gonna come out googly and I'm gonna love it no matter what Groom rang raid Um, I think an all-time favorite is uh, you know Just yeah going back to other m the relationship between samus and adam And everything that had nothing to do with team ninjas gameplay It's just so it's just like there's a lot of things you could braille on for other m And the lord knows I have but the weirdest thing about other m is that she just doesn't act anything like she does in any other game at all Like there's no overlap at all and then he goes well she was always like this What? I'm cool. She was I'm glad that they salvaged the counter mechanic And pulled that into a proper metroid game thus Uh the cool things that I liked about other m live on Without other m Uh, right and Yeah This was more of an update here from chris Who says dear purple and green and purple while laughing Um The saudi pullback from sports and implications for games Some recent news that's not directly in the world of video games But I think is highly relevant to the industry and a couple of recurring podcast segments Saudi Arabia has recently Released their multi-year plans for the investment fund that they've announced big cutbacks on sports investments and other soft power initiatives Like cancelled metropollid and opera deal n yt reporting below The biggest move is pulling out of the golf league and pulling out of soccer tennis boxing cycling mma and f1 They don't seem to be uh racing doesn't seem to be cut so far thus far the reasons given Speculate are speculated on range from high costs of world cup construction to soccer investments not paying off War economic toll strategy shifts, etc Whatever the reason the trend is the trend is clear and everyone who cast their lot in with live golf are now up a creek The investments into video games go are so much smaller um Then the wholesale creation of alternative sports leagues But the recent rug pulls should probably raise a flag for the companies seeking investment or ownership Yeah, yeah, I feel like embrace or group is like the template of like the modern video game acquisition We got all this money. Let's buy it all. Oh, it doesn't make any uh, fuck it burn it. Don't care So I was gonna say that like, uh, you know as much as because fighting games talking about evo talking about all these things talking about snk it always goes like okay at some point they're gonna stop playing with their toys and Uh, if you don't want them to die forever, you know, this is where I that's where I go like support your locals because you know, the whenever this shit backfires and they're not interested in this market anymore or Or for whatever reason they just stop investing and caring and pull the fuck out The thing you care about is is left to die but Embracer group 100% is an example of that that already happened The massive deal burned it all down the the massive deal. It was that it was an embracer It was an investment that was coming from Saudi Arabia that didn't go through And when that fell through the whole deal fell through which destroyed every property that was on the on the table You know, so I can't 100% they bought all that shit with like not even a legitimate promise of sale from the big investment Right like you could do a thing like we promise to invest in you If you have this this this and this and they go, okay, we'll go buy this this this and this But instead they got you know, we might be more interested if you guys had all these companies Then they bought all those companies and then they went Nah, oh, yeah You fucking stupid well because it's the cloud of being in the room with them, you know You get you get fucking wind and dined and swooned and then left on red With the bill to the tune of a couple fucking 10 or 11 digit figures on it um madness Anyway, uh, yeah that that that's no that's just that's an exact that's an exact template for what we're likely going to see here as well um, I'm also eyeballing and seeing the um The the the calendar filling up for all these smaller events and uh people that are usually going out to tournaments and stuff Are starting to see like where one of nine evos is going to probably push your favorite major into a position that is unfavorable Uh in the near future, so that's too many evos. That's probably too many I gotta say even aside from all the involvement all that shit I think that's too many just just as an event. Of course. That's no nothing to do with the with with any of it just That's a that's too many things that fill up the calendar in a way that starts to backfire on the Community run events and grassroots stuff that has been a big part of the community for a long time And it feels deliberate when you see that many placed across the calendar in that fashion There's an aggressive shouldering of you know space around the months where you drop that shit, so Like we're watching like an entire economic system find out why crop rotation is really important You know, yeah, sure the the follow the follow system just Maybe just don't till the soil for everything. It's got forever in one season, huh? um, but also You know when the fancy dude and the shiny suit walks in and flashes a smile in a couple bills your way Uh, maybe don't drop your panties like Immediately get some of the dollars in your hand. Maybe just hold on a fucking second before you get uh anyways God it's gonna be like whatever we'll see what happens by 2030, but I just like The my takeaway from from Embracer was that the people who were trying to like go for that investment were buffoons Um, they got they got they got hoodwinked with a wink and a nod in an elbow. I'm like, maybe But now we're seeing that even if you commit and sign the contract and the dotted lines are you know checked and I tease and tease and eyes are dotted and crossed Okay, wait till they get bored wait till it's financially inconvenient or the contracts do run out at some point But also the investors we're talking about have so much money They'll just take the fee and the breaking contract thing and just leave anyway Or wait till the state of world affairs make this makes this an inconvenient time to be focusing on this You know wait until there's a reason why shifting your funds into ai makes more sense. Hey, we're a shoe company nevermind We're making this now like It's just yeah That the the the the the toy story gift, you know, I don't want to play with you anymore Evergreen so all ready That'll do Have a good week everybody What you got in your hand over there you got some seeds You got some right now. I got I got nothing. Okay. I thought those were some seeds not Got this key Oh Oh You