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Why You Feel Sick But Tests Say You're Fine... | Dr Jessica Peatross & Robby Besner | DSH #1898

30 min
Apr 1, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Dr. Jessica Peatross discusses her experience being persecuted by medical boards for providing vaccine exemptions, and explores why patients feel sick despite normal test results. The episode covers parasites, Lyme disease, spike protein accumulation, detoxification through sauna therapy, and the limitations of modern diagnostic testing.

Insights
  • Medical boards use high-profile physician persecution as a deterrent to silence other practitioners questioning standard protocols
  • Current diagnostic tests (bloodwork, PCR) have significant limitations and miss stealth pathogens like parasites and Lyme disease that can remain dormant for months
  • Post-COVID symptoms including long COVID, histamine intolerance, and viral reactivation are linked to spike protein accumulation in organs and brain tissue
  • Parasite infections are common in the US despite medical establishment denial, and standard testing methods fail to detect them accurately
  • Mineral deficiency and demineralization are epidemic, compromising nervous system function and cellular water retention needed for proper detoxification
Trends
Rising prevalence of post-vaccine adverse events including myocarditis, pericarditis, and POTS in young, previously healthy individualsGrowing patient distrust of conventional medical testing and increased interest in functional medicine alternativesIncreased recognition of parasitic infections and Lyme disease co-infections as causes of chronic illness misdiagnosed as psychiatric or autoimmune conditionsSauna therapy and infrared detoxification gaining scientific validation for heavy metal and toxin eliminationMedical board enforcement becoming weaponized against practitioners who question vaccine protocols or offer alternative treatment approachesSpike protein persistence years after vaccination with documented accumulation in reproductive organs, fatty tissues, and brainMineral supplementation and electrolyte therapy emerging as foundational health interventions across functional medicine practices
Companies
Medical Board of California
Persecuted Dr. Peatross and hundreds of physicians for providing vaccine exemptions under SB 277 and SB 276
Oregon Medical Board
Followed California's lead in revoking Dr. Peatross's locum tenens license after her California surrender
DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration)
Revoked Dr. Peatross's DEA license after she lost her medical licenses in all states
Florida Medical Board
Granted Dr. Peatross an unencumbered medical license, allowing her to resume clinical practice
Infectious Disease Society of America
Sets treatment guidelines for Lyme disease limited to two weeks of doxycycline, which Dr. Peatross argues is insuffic...
People
Dr. Jessica Peatross
Guest discussing her persecution by medical boards for vaccine exemptions and current functional medicine practice in...
Robby Besner
Co-host conducting interview with Dr. Peatross about medical persecution and health diagnostics
Dr. Andy Wakefield
Pioneering physician blackballed by medical institutions for publishing research on vaccine safety concerns
Dr. Bob Sears
Pediatrician persecuted by medical boards for providing vaccine exemptions alongside Dr. Peatross
Dr. Kelly Sutton
Physician who faced medical board action for questioning standard vaccine protocols
Jonathan Otto
Health practitioner whose YouTube content was struck for discussing alternative health therapies
Brian Johnson
Biohacker who published research on sauna therapy for microplastic elimination from the body
Quotes
"I don't kiss the ring of corrupt kings. Here is your license. And I willingly surrendered."
Dr. Jessica PeatrossEarly in episode
"We haven't changed bloodwork in 30 to 50 years. You think that's accurate all the time? Give me a break on this."
Dr. Jessica PeatrossMid-episode
"Science is never settled. And these people, they get made fun of, they get torn down, they get censored, they get deleted."
Robby BesnerMid-episode
"Parasites don't understand borders. They don't understand that there's Mexico and this is the United States."
Dr. Jessica PeatrossMid-episode
"I created these supplements for everyone else because I went through it too. Doctors out there who say what you think is outlandish, it's probably because they've been through something you can't understand yet."
Dr. Jessica PeatrossEnd of episode
Full Transcript
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You've got this child or individual that knows they're not feeling well, and ultimately they don't see it in the bloodwork because it may not show up until 45 to 60 days after. So they're saying you're crazy, just go see a psychiatrist. All right guys, here at A4M we got Dr. Jess Petross here who's about to speak, and Robbie back on the show. And you've been on too already, so let's do this. Honored to be here again. Yeah, what are you going to talk about here? Oh, I don't know. We could talk about some juicy topics if you want, absolutely. I think first and foremost that people could get an introduction to me really quick. My own personal story is a little juicy. Robbie knows my story well. So back when California passed the law to mandate 72 doses before the age of 18 to attend public school in California, I was there as a physician. I was doing, I really believe strongly in informed consent and that not everyone has the same genes to be able to tolerate 72 doses of, we are all epigenetically different and bio-individual. And so I was working with the pediatric natural path to do exemptions for on the childhood schedule in California. And they came after all of us under SB 277 and SB 276. They were subpoenaing patients' medical records without their permission in the Health and Human Services Department. So when I got the subpoena, I just thought it was like a family court case. So somebody was getting divorced. They were arguing about what their child should have. No one said it was the medical board of California. They opened them up under the guise of safety to look for the legitimacy of the. And then they got us in trouble for minutia, not signing charts in time, not doing the proper physical exam, not testing every ingredient and stipion and to the person's DNA, which is not how it works. So when they came after me, I was one of hundreds that they came after. I thought the bigger play was not to take their punishment, which was three years probation, about 60 hours of their reeducation, and three years stipulated license with no exemptions. So I said, I don't kiss the ring of corrupt kings. Here is your license. And I willingly surrendered. But you know what those jerks did? They put on the medical board of California's website, they put disciplinary surrender, but I surrendered under discipline, not that I was made to surrender. So that's at the stage for me about how this was an agenda. Wow. An agenda for you can see it now. I mean, every time I open up my Instagram or social media, the first thing I see is some sort of public health department, some sort of uneducated congressman or congresswoman talking about how they want it's awful that we got rid of the hepatitis B at birth. Oh, they got rid of that? Well, they did stop mandating it at birth, I should say that. They can push it out now a couple months because you know, all babies are doing IV drugs and having sex. I mean, it's risk for them, you know? Yeah. So, you know, and then people say, well, you know, hepatitis B this and the women could have it test the women, test the women, what are we doing? Why are we just blanking children right out of the womb? It's ridiculous. The logic isn't logic. We just went through all that. We just said our first grandchild like two years ago. And just the debate of like the amount they give this zero day old child is ridiculous. You let them do that? No, actually, I went to an extreme and said, you over my dead body, you're going to be bad. You leave sometimes. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early and best thing after 2008 loading up on NVIDIA AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's coming to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation. 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And actually, it's kind of you can't let them out of your sight because the nurses will turn around, turn the baby around behind you. Yeah, they will. Yes, they do. Absolutely. They take the baby and turn it around. Well, no, they'll turn their back to you and with you in your plain sight. Yeah, so it gets ugly. Yeah. That should be illegal. That's not a way. Well, let me see. That's an interesting question about legal and illegal because they're following a mandate. And so they always think that whether they have a political judgment position on it or not, their licenses are at risk as well as you had went through. So it's kind of like if they don't do it, then they have a chance of getting their batches pulled or publicly punished. What happened with me? Publicly, the public humiliation for me. Well, I think there's a part that you didn't articulate and that is you're a high profile individual and you're also outspoken. So what they like to do is target you so that they can kind of embarrass you in front of the community so that everybody else learns that subliminal message about you don't want to be stepping into her water because then we're going to come after you too. And so they like to look at the high profile people to make them a doctor. Dr. Bob Sears, Dr. Kelly Sutton, these are all the doctors that got in trouble before me. And you know, I remember being on the phone with the medical board of California's the attorney general and then my lawyer and then a judge and they were trying to get the settlement with me. And he said, you know, you don't have to surrender. You can take the punishment. And I said, oh, are you giving me a microphone? And so I went on to tell them just because you want me to test every ingredient. That's not the way the body works. You know, you give so many toxins, adjuvants, things formaldehyde, sometimes mercury, if it's in the shot, there's all kinds of different aborted cell lines that have been immortalized. There's all kinds of different adjuvants and antibiotics, glyphosate, and no one reads it. So I can't get on board. When I was with them on the phone, I literally said, I'll never be back here. This is not how the body works. These are the ingredients. You can't test each ingredient to see if there's an allergy. It's a tipping skill in the body out of homeostasis or not. Right? Was Cali the only state that did this? No, good question. So after I surrendered in California, it was about two, three months later, the Oregon Medical Board, where I had a locum tenants license. I hadn't been there in six years to practice medicine. They came and said, you have to surrender your locum tenants means you can come there and work as needed, kind of. And so I'd been there in six, seven years. They said, you have to come and surrender your license here. We're going to open an investigation on you. So they just followed suit with California. And then about a month after that, the DEA got hold of me and said, you have to send your DEA license because you don't have a medical license in any state any longer. It's like a domino effect. Absolutely. So then the beautiful part of this story is when I moved to Florida two years ago, I got my Florida license back. And when they emailed me, they said, here is your Florida license unencumbered. Welcome to Florida. Let's go. Let's go. And so now I'm able to actually help people again, which is a beautiful thing. It's my mission, the reason I'm here. So I am very outspoken about things at this point. I'm very outspoken even during the COVID years. Always outspoken gets that as well. And now we're looking at the repercussions of everyone who got that. Long-credit color. It's all I see. Histamine problems along COVID, Epstein bar online reactivated, herpes viruses reactivated. That's what that means. It reactivates herpes viruses. What? Yes. You know that? Reactivates it? Yes. Oh, yeah. And not to mention like all the exogenous frequencies that are also get those switches like 5G and that are also we're discovering or activating a lot of the subtleties. It's sort of like it's an accident waiting to happen. You know? And it's sad. It's getting popular right now. The sudden deaths that we're seeing of people that are basically pretty healthy, but just don't wake up on day. There's a lot of athletes. Young athletes that died randomly. Heart things. My heartitis, pericarditis. I mean, I'm seeing them in clinic now. I'm seeing these people in clinic. And they all have tachycardia high heart rates. They're all got met. They are all puffy. They've all got rashes. They all have brain fog. They all have histamine problems. They can't tolerate anything. It's ridiculous. And they all link it back to when they got either a pain or the infection because the mimic the infection. I know two people right now in their 20s and 30s that they have heart issues when they stand up. It just starts racing. It's why it's Pustural Orthostatic Tachycardic Syndrome. So they have, you know, they stand up, their blood pressure falls, their heart rate goes up, it can't get in the sauna. They can't get hot like they couldn't get near sauna. Yeah. Because they start having a high heart rate. So those people, they're so sensitive and it's because their heart is seeing a problem. It's bike protein is seeing a problem is tacking away appropriately. And so if you can get them in the sauna, that helps a lot to do like a bind, binder in a sweat in the sauna. That's when the like, go slow, like get them in like five minutes, one week, tack a couple minutes on the next week and a minute after that because they can't tolerate anything. Right. We assume that we just titrate people in slowly. Yeah. If they're symptomatic and express some kind of, you know, like being very fragile in a way, then we even go even slower. But we just assume within the toxic world and then, you know, if they're willing to talk about their history, then that kind of adds another layer of discussion. And it's just, you know, we sell a portable version, but the idea is that, you know, like we get toxic a little bit every day. So if we can detox a little bit every day to kind of keep your body in check and you live in a healthy way and purposeful way, then we're on target the way we're supposed to. Sauna is undeniable now. I just saw Brian Johnson's new study with it. Yeah, it was crazy. He was getting microplastics out of his body with just sauna. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can sweat out BPA. 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And we all trust pilots with their smooth, captainly voices that make you feel like you'd let them land anywhere they like. Sorry, where was I? Right, AJ Bell, rated excellent by sexy pilots. I mean trust pilot. I'm a flight risk. AJ Bell, feel good investing. The value of your investments can go up or down. Hey, PCBs, you can sweat out a lot of the organ and phosphate pesticides. It's amazing. You can sweat out. I can show you study where you can set up sweat out heavy metals. No word. Mercury, they say lead stored in the bones, you've out sweat out lead, cadmium. It's a small study. It's still relevant. So people don't even know. They tell me don't sweat. I'm like, that's not normal. Some people can't sweat in saunas. Yeah, and that's generally because their pores are clogged or that they're dehydrated, which is a big problem. I'm talking about cell evaporation. You can drink a lot of water, but if your cells aren't holding on to the water, that's the key. And so that's where the problem is. Is that like a gut thing, you think, or what is that? Well, no, I think what it is is the water sources, they're not structured. The cells, sunlight structures water inside your body, and lack of certain frequencies of sunlight, lack that structure. So cell communication and function, their methylation process isn't quite as good as it could be, optimally. They're demineralized, right? Everybody's demineralized. Everyone I see is a problem with minerals. Back them up on my scan. Did it? Yeah. I started drinking electrolytes. They feel you. That will help your nervous system so much. Actually, nerves have, they need a potential or a charge to fire, right? And so if you don't have a charge, then your nervous system doesn't work, right? It doesn't fire properly. And so if you don't have minerals, metals who have similar charges via ionic mimicry can get in the same places and embed in the same places that enzymatic reactions that you would need minerals. And so it's really, really important to be able to get the minerals out that due to binding affinity and things like that, they can knock those metals out of their hiding places. And that really resets people's nervous system. I can't tell you how many people are like you. Everyone that comes to see me in clinic, they get minerals. Everybody. Yeah. I see some heavy metal issues too. Yeah. You know, that's interesting because the metal has a covalent bond, which is the opposite of your body charge. Okay. So what's cool about infrared versus like the hot rocks on our steam rooms is that it actually creates a vibration and breaks that covalent bond. So now that it can actually effectively pull out the heavy metal, because once the bond is broken, then the metal cascades into your blood serum and then you can bind it up. And with actually, I like charged carbon particles, but you guys have a great binder that I know you're about to come out with. Yeah, just launch. I want, yeah, I want to kind of jam on that a little bit so you can talk about, yeah, should put blue stuff is just crazy. Taking binders when they go on the sauna either. It's a good idea for people. Now, I have one caveat with that is if you're really demineralized, you want to be careful with the binder, his binders bind ups, depending on the type, they bind up minerals as well. They bind up every food supplements, minerals, you have to time them away from other things like that. So if you're demineralized, you have to be careful with binders, they can make it worse for you. So, you know, really make sure you're taking minerals away from the binder. So you're evening out that effect for yourself. It would be my advice. Yeah, and you can throw electrolytes into your water and do simple things like that. So it's not like you have to work at it. You just have to, it's a sequencing thing. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that completely. But have you guys noticed though that back to the COVID really quick, have you guys noticed that, that people who've gotten the vein have been more angry and aggressive? Huh? You guys noticed that? I wouldn't be surprised if there's a link, but is that happening? I've definitely seen it with people. It's an anecdotal evidence. They're, I had, it's just, you know, it's not objective, it's subjective, but I have seen them be short fused, more angry. And I think it's all the inflammation that's kicked up by the spike protein, because you know, that's neuro inflammation too. That's a brain on fire type of stuff. And so I've definitely seen the spike protein. We know that accumulates in the brain. Wow. We know that it does. It leaves the site of injection, it accumulates in the reproductive organs and the fatty tissues. Holy crap. It's everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big problem moving forward. This is the leaky, as well. I can show you published studies that show leaky it's the name of the study. And they're still giving it to babies, right? That's still a thing. Yeah. Those are going on now. They only had more. They're scheduling for more. Thrunk fits one now, right? Yeah. I lost track. After the fourth one, I'm like, I can't take sure. We have 12 or 15 growing up. I mean, it's crazy. So yeah, that's the thing about this is, is it really, what's it really doing? Right? So I see people have spike protein years after they got their like over 2,500 on the lab core test. Yeah. And it's ridiculous. And they all have histamine problems. They've got herpes, varus, ebstene, barreactivated, Lyme reactivated, parasites reactivated. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. You know, it's not quite off topic, but in the veterinary world, they'll have a three pound animal like full grown as they would a great thing. Yeah. Same level of That doesn't make sense. Well, not at all. But it's again, just a protocol. And so, you know, like the things really don't make sense. The political and legal accountability of the companies that make them there, they, the legislation was orchestrated so that there's basically no reprisal. There's no you can't push back. And, and the fact that they haven't really done the human trials and that what they would do normally that's required to release a drug, they just sort of push this stuff through. They take previous, they've approved and approve new things with the basis of the old and seizing the old. It's really corrupt. And you're right, they can't be soon. 1986, childhood law, right? And we are taxpayer dollars pay for people who go through the courts actually, there's a special court for that. And yeah, so it's our taxpayer dollars paying this for people. And it's a, you know, it's a billion dollar industry. I think these pharmaceutical companies aren't making them being rich. All these, of course they are every time one's added. So let's be real. But you know, safe and effective, you say that enough people believe that. So I never questioned growing up to be honest. When I was in high school, we had to get them for sports. I was like, oh, this is going to help me be a better athlete. Every year is a hospitalist in the hospital. Every year, didn't question it one time. Yeah. Isn't it weird how the flu comes every year? Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. I've been looking into that conspiracy. It's weird that it disappeared during COVID too. Yeah. No flu deaths for three years. Oh, weird. Three years when there was an average of like $50,000 a year about. Yeah. Well, you know, they created that COVID sequence in the computer system. They pieced it together because the PCR, a polymerase chain reaction, you know, it's a, what it does is it takes sequences of viruses, bacteria, whatever, and it, it exponentially amplifies them so they can tell what the amino acid sequence is and what kind of path is we're more dealing with. Wow. And when they do have the missing pieces of those amino acids, they piece it together in a computer. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's how the PCR test works. And that's how they can, I'm not saying they did, but I'm saying if they wanted to, they could spend some evidence that way. Yeah, a lot of people are testing positive randomly with those tests, right? Right. Exactly. You know, we know, I use them a lot for gut tests, a GI zoomer or gut zoomer, GI map, I love those, but it's a PCR test. And they miss parasites sometimes. They miss them a lot. And so it's not like, people talk about, oh, you should go get tested for hair, so you get tested for this. It's like, these are stealth pathogens that have been around as long as we have. They aren't bad at their jobs. And so our tests are the ones that are lacking. It's our tests that are lacking, that are inaccurate. We haven't changed blood work in 30 to 40 years. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, and best thing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? AI is changing jobs and markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's here. I'm going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss, protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote, for over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price. And they work for you for free. You can even get same day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam required. And even if you have preexisting conditions, they work with companies that can help. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at select quote dot com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at select quote dot com slash dsh Today to get started at select quote dot com slash dsh. Saving seekers, we hear you. Seeking energy savings, always keep your energy prices under the price cap. With Next Pledge, your energy prices are guaranteed to always stay below the price cap. Satisfy those savings cravings. Check out our full range of tailored energy solutions at eonnext.com forward slash save. Eonnext, we make energy savings work. Next Pledge is a 12 month fixed time track tariff with variable rates lower than off chance price cap for standard variable tariffs. Direct debit required, T's and C's apply. At A.J. Bell, we believe investing is for everyone. And when we say everyone, we mean your dad, Dan, Danielle, Dean, Dave, Del, Del's delivery driver Denise, Denise's dentist, Dinesh, and Devon's strongest man, Donathan. Donathan? Donathan, that can't be right. Donathan? Well, whatever your name is, if you're a real person, investing is for you too. A.J. Bell, feel good investing. The value of your investments can go up or down. 50 years. You think that's accurate all the time? Give me a break on this. You're going to research the PCR tests and some of the ways we're doing the tests. And you had a doc on here recently saying parasites don't come in the USA. And I wanted to laugh my head off. I mean, really, really? And you can go get an OVA and OMP test, sole test, and it's accurate. Okay. First of all, parasites don't understand borders. And they don't. They don't understand that there, this is Mexico and this is the United States. And you think our food's the best country and best in the world anymore? Not even close. Not even close. You think there's not trauma in this country? The track stuff like that for cleanup because we're part of the ecosystem? That's right. So the fact that people are so naive or uneducated that they think parasites can't happen in this country, you can just get a test that hasn't changed in years, it's sorely inaccurate, is laughable. Well, she's a western doctor. I feel like most of them don't really take the parasite stuff seriously, right? Right. But they don't take lime seriously either. They take what they're taught in a government institution and take it as the Bible and it's laughable. Yeah. I'm sorry. But the fact that they think that the studies that are published are always right, let's be real, you can change the outcome of the study anytime you want with inclusion and exclusion criteria. You can change the outcome of the study. Let's not be naive. Well, you know, for example, I'll just tell you one thing that happens. So Dr. Andy Wakefield, who completely got blackballed by the medical institution. I know him. Yeah. Great guy, right? Yeah. And while he was one of the pioneers in exposing the whole well, yeah, he was a trailblazer. And yeah, I think he's out of London, right? In English. So even in London, they're getting... Oh, they persecuted him. They persecuted him. They're still talking about him like they do Jenny McCarthy. What? Yeah. Because, you know, he had this study that came out that showed that black babies were more susceptible to the MMR and it caused, there I say, autism, which, you know, you can change the thing to like toxic and cephalopathy or cephalitis and people don't know it's autism. They changed the name to stuff a lot. So, you know, and, you know, he ended up, they ended up coming back saying the study was markedly wrong. They found evidence. They pulled the study. They took his license. They literally blackballed him. And what he showed in his movie 1986, the act, was that by changing the criteria of the study, they changed the outcome when they came back to redo his study. And so they followed little black boys throughout after they got the MMR until ages, I believe it was like two and a half or three and a half. And that's not when most autism cases are diagnosed. It's after the age of three or four. And so on purpose, they left out this curve. So it looks like the results are so you can always do this, right? You can always do this with studies. So let's not be naive, hero logical. Like, you can get the answer and outcome you want by working your way backwards that way. Sure. That's so annoying because people want to trust studies and you totally, you know, like how do you even find good information anymore? It's so hard. It's so difficult really to know what the intentions and the conflicts are. You really have to, it's almost too much for the lay person to have to dig into the studies themselves. So that's why I'm really thankful for people in the industry who do that for us and show us a different voice, a different perspective. Like, you know, we're not the healthiest country in the world. We've got the horrible birthright survival. We've got horrible chronic health issues. Like what we have been doing has not been working. We have to have a new perspective with new voices. And so to persecute these people, these trailblazers who are just thinking outside the box and what is science? Questioning. Science is never settled. And these people, they get made fun of, they get torn down, they get censored, they get deleted. It's crazy. Sure. I guess. Adults are. It's having you guys on sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna strike on my YouTube. Really? Wow. It's crazy. Still not fixed. It must have been a good one. It was Jonathan Otto. Do you guys know him? Oh yeah, I know Jonathan. I know you too well. He's talked a little too much about urine therapy and I'm gonna strike. Yeah, I've been told that they will absolutely censor you for urine therapy. Yeah, they don't want that out there. Yeah. It's interesting. It's, have you heard him talk about it? It's interesting. I mean, we know Jonathan. I don't pretend to be an expert, but the way they talk about the amino acids and steroids that come out that you should drink and use on your face. Yeah, he's, yeah. I've never tried it. That's gonna be my next question. He's convincing. I'm adventurous, but I'm not going there. Yeah, yeah, there's levels. I mean, you know, I feel like I can biohack that other ways. Yeah, absolutely. Totally. You know, America is one of the only countries that doesn't really do any kind of parasite cleansing or de-warming. You come outside the US, like the Asian bloc countries and India and those areas. South America. It's all part of their culture. They do it every six months or so. I mean, within that, yeah, three to six months. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. I do two a year. Perfect. I feel amazing. I feel amazing. Right. And to tell people, to look at people in the face and be like, that doesn't work. You've bought a grifter's pseudoscience. It's just like, I want to slap them. Like, you know, why do you think people got into this? They got into this because they had, they had something happen to them and they went there and tried something different. It worked for them. It's not like grifters just come out of the blue and figure up this crazy idea and start selling stuff. It's because they went through it. I mean, if they don't think parasites are real, go get a colonic tomorrow. Right. Tell me they don't exist. You know what I mean? You're going to season parasites. Exactly. And the fact that they don't think that, you know, they can live in the body for years, that you can pass it on. I mean, for me, lime is, lime and its co-infections, that was your parasites. You know, it's sexually transmitted. Lime is? Yes. It's a corkscrew-shaped bacteria that's similar to syphilis. It's a cousin to syphilis. And because, form follows function in microbiology. And so it, because it's a corkscrew, it burrows into mucous membranes. So like, H. pylori is a corkscrew, burrows in the gut lining, right? Lime burrows in the brain tissue and the joint fluid. I mean, same as syphilis, right? Assyphilis caused, tertiary syphilis caused in the brain. That's what we think Napoleon had. You know, makes people crazy. And lime is the same way. It's a similar cousin. Well, there's three, there's three spirochetes that will cross over the blood brain barrier. Of course, lime is one of them. What's the other two? Well, syphilis, it's all part of that same family. And so the, the, the deal is, is that they're kind of smart and the approach that Western medicine has taken with using barrages of antibiotics changes your blood chemistry. They sense that change. Then they burrow into the soft tissue and they go, that's when you'll go into somewhat omission, remission where you'll feel like less symptomatic. And then your chemistry changes back. It's almost like the someone turned the party lights on and the bugs come out. Could be emotional, like either trauma that's from emotion or physical or, or a combination of both. And that's not smart. Yeah. And it also kind of, then they feel a sense of change of her blood chemistry. Also your immune system is somewhat common. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early and best thing after 2008 loading up on the video? AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote for over 40 years. 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Well, whatever your name is, if you're a real person, investing is for you too. AJ Bell, feel good investing. The value of your investments can go up or down. I'm compromised because of whatever, you know, that trauma has been and they come out and play. Yeah, they do this, they're pleomorphic, they call it, which means they can change shapes. So usually a spear keyed is corkscrew shape the bacteria. But when you give doxycycline, for example, which the infectious disease site of America says you need two weeks out to get rid of Lyme. So anyway, basically, it can change its form into an L-sphere or L form, which is a circle and go burrow deeper into the tissues where the antibiotics can't get it. So it's like waltz itself off a little bit. It's very intelligent. And you then around the times of the full moon, when parasites reproductive cycle is happening, people will have increased joint pains, increased brain fog, increased fatigue, because it's like a parasite or Lyme party, right? They reproduce around that time, they're out of the tissues, they're out of their hiding places, the body sees it, oh, I missed you. Kill, kill, that's the inflammation cascade. Yeah, there's a gravitational pull around the full moon and they sense that change in energy, that's how subtle they are. More crime on full moon days. Yeah, that's right. Crazy ERs, always, we always talked about that. Yeah, where wills come out, where wills come out on full moon? Yeah, you know that, right? I think I've heard that before. For sure. Yeah, it's quite a challenge, right? Yeah, you know, I mean, the infectious disease society of America quotes its own papers as guidelines and treatments. It's a little incestuous. So, you know, that's why we have two weeks of doxycycline. If you prescribe more than a month, they really think it's malpractice. But you know, for me, I don't like to use any antibiotics, because I know that doxycycline and the mono treatment isn't enough for Lyme. So I prefer herbs, you know, and a lot of these herbs have crossover, bacteria, parasites, yeast. So you can use them for a multitude of things. When you do a parasite cleanse, it's getting other issues too. That makes sense. When you started with our stuff with our family in Lyme, they just thought that like 10 days of an antibiotic would knock it out, which is, I don't know, I mean, of course, right? Well, it just is less than a bandaid. Yes. That's what I want to say about it. Yeah. And so the challenge is that if you're lucky enough to even understand like a bullseye rash and kind of back 25 years ago, there weren't as many Lyme literate doctors that actually kind of knew what to look for or actually asked the question. So it wasn't even on their radar. And then you've got this child that or individual that knows they're not feeling well. And ultimately, they don't see it in the blood work because it may not show up until 45 to 60 days after. Geez. Okay. So they're saying, you're crazy, just go see a psychiatrist or, you know, wow, that kind of thing. It's just, it's really... Well, I'll tell you what else I've seen personally, personally, is that it causes this picture, it looks almost like sleep apnea. So they can get up in the nasal passages, right? Because mold can colonize here and amicus membranes, right? Parasites can get up in here too. I've seen them. I've seen someone pull a worm out of their nose in front of my face. So it can colonize up here and it's, people's nose gets stopped up and they start mouth breathing. And then they won't sleep well. It's almost like a sleep apnea picture four to five hours a night. And they'll get on like ADHD medications, Adderall and Ritalin and caffeine and think that all these problems are wrong. And they have diagnosed ADHD at this point, which by the way, how is the distractibility of disease? I just have questions about that. And just questions. And so, and then it's not actually a sleep apnea or ADHD. It's like you're not sleeping in a restorative sleep because you have pathogens that your body is saying that you don't necessarily. Right. Yeah. Well, guys, it's been fun. No, no, we need two minutes on what she's doing these days. Yeah, she was off to what you're doing where crazy stuff goes all the whole supplement line that's coming out. That's just amazing. Thanks. I beta tested some of it. I mean, it was the best tasting glutathione in my entire. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Crazy, which, you know, historically doesn't, you know, you take it because you need it, but you kind of deal with the fact that it doesn't taste so good. And then she came out with a formulation that was surprising. I'm going to give you a bomb right here in the last two minutes. So, so about seven, eight years ago, I met someone who put a Black Magic African recurse on me. And I did not know it for years. It followed me for years. During that time, I had three lawsuits, my medical license taken by the medical board, miscarriage, my dog died of brain tumor, all these horrible things that sound like a country song happened to me. And when this curse was broken, finally, I was like a new person. I looked different. I feel different, all that kind of stuff. And the reason for the impetus of my supplement company was because I was so demineralized and stressed out and sympathetic overdrive with that curse on me at a B vitamin deficiency that was raging. I needed something that I knew absorbed in the mouth and not the gut because my gut was a mess after that. And that's why I created the minerals, the B vitamins that are methylated, the glutathione. That's why I did that was for me. So, and then when it helped me, I was like, I should just really make everyone take it. Right. Well, no, it's so again, pain to passion, right? So, you had that experience, boom, it put you in the position where you became hypersensitive to understand and you're not along with that. And that's great that you're sharing it with the folks. I'm a medical doctor. Do you think we want to be persecuted and made the odd man out and being called a quack? You know, we don't want that. We want to help people. You know what? So what I had to do was so hard for me because you want to fit in when you're crowd. You want to be looked at as respected. You know, and that didn't happen for me. So, you know, it's great now. I've been redeemed, but I created these supplements for everyone else because I went through it too. And so that's why I want to just say doctors out there who say what you think is outlandish, it's probably because they've been through something you can't understand yet. Right. Also, we'll include a link to that below. Thanks for coming on guys. Yeah, great. Yeah, George. Great. Peace. 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