This One Mistake Could Affect Your Future Kids | Ben Greenfield & Robby Besner | DSH #1889

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Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at selectquote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. Diet Coke has one and Coke Zero has another. It's one in Diet Coke. And if you actually wanted to reach the levels of that artificial sweetener intake that shows some type of cancer causing or neurotoxic event, you'd have to drink like 77 cans of Diet Coke. This newer study came out and this was like in the past year that showed that when you get to the equivalence of much lower amount, it's like one to three cans, they were showing changes with parameters related to anxiety, like the ability to be able to manage stress. So basically what that means is like if you have a wicked Diet Coke habit, you might have kids who are more prone to anxiety. Holy cr- All right guys, here at A4M with Ben and Robbie. Ben, it's good to see you again, man. Good to be back. It's been two and a half years. I'm sure you've done a lot since. I've done a lot. I see you have a toothbrush on the table. I do. It's going to be like oral parish 101. It's a red light toothbrush. Yeah, it just came out. I have something like this. Oh yeah. Red and blue light. You always got the new gadgets. Some vibration. What's the effect? Just like better white me? Well, no, I think it changes your oral bacteria in a sense, you know. Strips, if you've got any kind of non-beneficial bacteria, it takes their biofilms, a little strip back biofarers and stuff like that. Includes blood flow. Yeah, I'm a big like oil puller, tongue scraper, because I've interviewed, I don't know if you've interviewed any Ayurvedic docs, but I love the morning routine thing like drinks in water and scrape your tongue and coconut oil pulling. I feel fresh and clean. Damn, I might have to start doing that tongue scraping. I'll do that one. Yeah, it's worth it. Yeah. What do you see coming off your tongue? I don't really see much at all. I don't call it that. Yeah, but apparently from a preventive standpoint, it keeps bacteria that you swallow from wanting a bit of your GI tract. God after a night of being in your mouth. You know, in traditional Chinese medicine, they'll look at your tongue for diagnostic purposes, and oftentimes if you've got an overgrowth of bacteria or a bad bacteria in your gut, it'll start coming up and you'll see a coating on your tongue in the back. So by, you know, scraping and so forth, you can keep a little bit of balance at least in that area of your body. Yeah, I'm starting to get like adult rush. I'm starting to take my oral health seriously. I had a wake up call a couple of months ago, seven cavities. Oh, geez. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? Because I barely eat sugar. I was going to say like, I'm a mouth friger though. So I heard backasses. Yep, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's something about the like the dry air and the way that moves through the mouth and where it bag is so it's a dryer. Yeah. Do you mouth tape? I used to, but even else tapes, bro. Should I start again? Is it worth it? You think? Come out at night? I swear. Well, I don't swear by it. Like I can get by without mouth tape, but I get better sleep. Really forces you to nasal breathe. You have to find a good strip that's not going to come off. And then if you go with something that's got too much adhesive, you've got like the chapped lips bleeding you have to say in the morning. So it's a fine balance. And then because so I'm married. Yeah. And so if you have like nighttime pillow talk, you have to time it right about the time when you think she's done talking and you don't have anything left to say and the tape goes on. You've got to go. So yeah, I'm married 45 years. So my wife does, we don't tape during the night. She tapes me during the day because she says I talk too much. So yeah, I laugh, but that's the thing that's like the Spartan, the goji thing that they would have the young warriors do to like go on a run with a mouth full of gravel or water to force you to nasal breathe. Yeah, that's a guy who's pretty popular in the respiratory space, Patrick McCown, he's a fan of this whole incminimal nasal breathing. And there's there's a pretty good effect on VO2 max on humidification of the air on nitric oxide production when you force yourself to breathe through your mouth during exercise. So I have this little thing next to my air dyeing bike and you put it in your mouth. I don't even know who manufactures it, but it forces you to breathe through your nose and then out through through a restricted device. So you're almost developing like some of the best for an expiratory muscle training and at the same time, like, you have no choice, but to nasal breathe. Wow. Okay, I'm going to start measuring. She honest. Yeah, I'm going to start measuring my VO2 max. I just learned how important that is. Yeah, at this conference. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty important. And so so my formal background is exercise physiology. And what we used to get taught was that it's like totally non modifiable, but it's highly modifiable. There's a peak based on genetics like Lance Armstrong, for example, we didn't have the highest VO2 max is going to be tough to keep up with. But there is a proven protocol, besides all of the usual things you do to support your mitochondrial health. Some of the like nasal breathing stuff we were talking about, but it's basically, it's a four by four ish protocol. And you only have to do it once every one to two weeks to increase VO2 max considerably. So it's like four minutes, and you go up to six minutes as hard as you can go, but at maximum sustainable pace. So you get on a bike, and it's like, you hit 90 RPM, and you just try and maintain 90 RPM the whole time. And then you use a one to one work to rest ratio. So you like recover for four to six minutes, however long you did your burst for. And you do that four to six times through. Right. So it's like a 30 40 ish minute workout. But just once every one to two weeks, that's kind of like the proven protocol for increasing VO2 max, because people throw around terms like hit training and sprint training. And it varies. There's a big difference between a 10 second burst, which just all triggering mitochondria and a four minute maximum sustainable pace effort, which is more VO2 max. Interesting. You training your VO2 max? A little bit. Not as much as like I should. Yeah. Yeah. VO2 max grip strength and walking speed. Those are the three biggies. I will devast. Yeah. The longevity. Is it for a long period of time or just like no, it's just like it's like it's your pace. Okay. Step count is important. The 10,000 thing was literally not based on any research at all. It's just like it came out of surreal. It was like some Japanese article or in the newspaper. I forget the whole story about it, but there's it wasn't actually based on any kind of clinical research that people walk. Sound sexy though, right? Yeah. And newer research shows it's about seven to eight. Okay, that's more achievable. You still get benefits once you go above that. But if you can hit seven to eight K, that's where you trigger the decreased all cause risk and mortality. And then if you have fast, right, whether you know, training yourself with one of those like metronomes or walking on it. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA AI is changing jobs. The markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's coming to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. 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I naturally do it because my dad wouldn't stop when we would hike when I was a kid. Yeah. He wouldn't, he wouldn't stop walking. So I had to keep up with it. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a bit of a traumatic thing. But yeah, we did the same thing. If my wife and I both hike fast, we walk fast. And now it bites me in the butt because same thing with our kids when they were two or three years old, they said, I keep up. And so now when I go for a walk with my son, it's too fast. Damn, I'm talking like eight. It wasn't actually based on any kind of clinical research that people walk. Sounds sexy though, right? Yeah. And newer research shows it's about seven to eight K. Okay. That's more achievable. You still get benefits once you go above that. But if you can hit seven to eight K, that's where you trigger the decreased all cause risk and mortality effect. Wow. And then if you have fast, right, whether training yourself with one of those like metronomes or walking on a treadmill or doing anything that makes you walk, the way I think about it is like walk a little bit faster than your brain wants you to walk. Yeah. And it's correlated with longevity. I naturally do it because my dad wouldn't stop when we would hike when I was a kid. Yeah. He wouldn't he wouldn't stop walking. So I had to keep up with them. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a bit of a traumatic, traumatic thing. But yeah, we did the same thing. If my wife and I both hike fast, we walk fast. And now it bites me in the butt because same thing with our kids when they were two or three years old, they said, I keep up. And so now when I go for a walk with my son, it's too fast. Damn. I'm talking like eight. Okay. Yeah, I usually use music, the syncopation of the music to keep me in pace. Yeah. That's a good trick. Yeah, it's kind of cool. Yeah, there's this device called a counter pulse. And in a hospital setting, if you had like a heart surgery or a severe cardiovascular issue, they use something called enhanced external counter pulsations like this thing that you lay in almost like one of those lymph circulation suits and kind of compresses and relaxes based on the diastolic emptying phase of your heart. And this counter pulse is basically just like a heart rate strap. And then it sinks to your headphones. And it gives you a little click or metronome like sound kind diastolic. So you can actually walk and like pump your heart while you're walking. And then you kill two birds with one stone because it also kind of keeps you on pace. Holy crap, I owned I owned one still own one somewhere in my closet, but I use it for about two years to just kind of train myself to correlate my walking to my heart rate. And then eventually it's like training me was just kind of sub-toddler. So you're out, you can subconscious. You can get an intuitive pace. You start to make exactly. Yeah, so it's basically timed to the emptying of your heart. So you're almost like doing a better job pumping, pumping blood as you walk. That's crazy. Yeah, I wonder if you could do that while you're on to you could. Yeah, I'd probably help a lot. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's all sorts of ways to just like, like I came from a will of Ironman Traff on right and Marathon and Endurance Sports and how I just love walking. There's all sorts of things you can use to walk like that. That mouthpiece, you can take it out on a walk, you can use the counterpulse device, you can do a ruck, you can do way to best like I walk a ton. It's hard to be walking, I'm realizing. Walking what? Like it's hard to beat that in terms of just health. Like walking seems to be one of the best things. Yeah. Lowest hanging fruit. Yeah. I mean, it's not gonna do much for grip strength or just over a muscle mass. But yeah. And I don't think it's that expensive to walk these days, is it? I mean, if you're a biohacker, it is because you got to have your collagen smoothie and your helmet that's sorry, your B.O. acids in your bloodstream. That's the pre-workout. Right. Your shoes that that mush and adapt and strengthen your toes with some kind of electrical muscle stimulation. Yeah. If you're a biohacker, it's super expensive to go on a walk, do anything, go to sleep, have sex, make a meal. It's always like three times more expensive if you're a biohacker. Damn. What's the increase in sex? Like why is it more expensive as a biohacker? Oh, that's joking. I guess we could explore that idea. I know you've gotten some stem cells in there. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That actually is a big even here at day 4M where we're at like the whole sexual rejuvenation piece. This is a pretty big huge. Yeah. It's going on. People are doing stem cells, PRP, you know, nitric oxide precursors, pumps, you know, all sorts of fancy stuff. Yeah, there's all sorts of things. And you're, are you still doing the salmon sperm on your face? Was I ever doing the salmon sperm on my face? That's right. I said, I think you were years ago. Oh, I don't know if I was years ago. I have, I have done salmon sperm on my face at a clinic. Okay. Not because I specifically requested it. It was there and they offered. And you didn't have any objection to salmon sperm. See what happened. Now the ladies are doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen that? No, but it sounds interesting. Not to be confused with spermideen, which you find in a lot of oral and beauty products is kind of like an anti-aging agent. I don't think that's derived from salmon. Yeah. The salmon sperm's hot. The Botox is hot right now. Yeah. A lot of ladies are getting those. Yeah. What do you think of Botox? From what I understand, although I'm not really a cosmetic surgeon, you get it and then repeated injections over time can kind of cause some reshaping of the face that almost like gas lights you into looking like a different person gradually and eventually becoming that, that a stereotype of the first thing's done too much work. I've gotten Botox. I mean, I didn't think we would go here, but with the heck I've gotten Botox in my penis before. Okay. That's like a thing. I've heard that. Yeah. And my wife was like super concerned that I was getting a paralytic toxin injected into my genitals. And it was it was at a medical clinic where I was getting a different procedure and their explanation was that it relaxes the muscle tissue and allows for better vascularity. Okay. Did you notice it? A little bit. So it actually helped. Yeah. All right. Again, one of those things like salmon sperm I didn't specifically request. Yeah. I offered and just can't turn down. Have you guys seen this? I don't know. You probably haven't seen this guy, but clavicular. Clavicular. Have you seen that guy on Instagram? No, it sounds like a piece of the shoulder. Yeah, it sounds interesting, but I'll briefly explain who this kid is. He's one of the most popular influencers right now. He's a 19 year old kid. He's taken TRT ever since he was 14. And he's advocating for all these guys to just take testosterone on a young age. Well, he didn't have like some kind of like clinically diagnosed. No, he's one in the litter. He's one of the better like severe head injury that couldn't allow him to make testosterone. Nope. I don't like that. Yeah. He just wants to look better. Yeah. He's also doing bone smashing. And I mean, you know, the biggest reason why is it's like one of the greatest things we can do as a human being is to make little human beings. And if you're starting with testosterone at that age, I mean, the earlier you start, the more you're going to impact fertility. And there are things that guys who want to increase testosterone will take at the same time to maintain fertility, like gonaderellin or a CG or enclomaphen. And that allows them to both take less testosterone and maintain a little bit of a sperm count. Oh, yeah. The latex cells and the testes can still operate a little bit. But if you're that young, I mean, no matter what you're taking at the same time, you're significantly impact both fertility and your own production. I don't like that. Tricking your body to not to make it because you're segmenting a different way. There's certain hormonal generations, actually, it'll kind of create a sort of an atrophy in your body's ability to make that hormone, you know. Yeah. There's a feedback loop. And the way I think about it is, so I would hope you wouldn't be thinking about this when you're 14, because you should be a little testosterone producing factory when you're 14, unless there's something significantly wrong. But if you were thinking about getting on testosterone, because whatever, you're kind of borderline low, but not clinically diagnosed by a doctor to be able to get a prescription for it, or you want to recover a little faster, put a little bit extra muscle. First of all, there's a lot of precursors for you to make your own testosterone building blocks. And those are super simple to find boron, creatine, zinc, omega three fatty acids, magnesium, vitamin D, those would be like the biggest and that's just like basic micronutrient and vitamin intake. And then this is interesting, the largest concentration of androgen receptors is in your legs. Right. So if you're like the toothpick leg guy at the gym, when we do an upper body, that's not so great for testosterone, leg press, lunges, squats, deadlifts, landmine, you know, anything that's taxing on the legs, that's another one. Tosses on the floor. Yeah, sleeve, low sauce, good relationship, sunshine, all that factors in this is anecdotal, but there's a lot of people that swear by thermal stress, like cold bath. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like avoiding heat and then getting cold, specifically for the balls. And then do you ever think about the risks you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, and best thing after 2008, loading up on the video, AI is changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's gonna save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote, for over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price. And they work for you for free. 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Yeah, I mean, you literally fill out a form that may or may not be true. And if it's a good company, they will take a foot or they're legally supposed to test you. But it's pretty easy to get testosterone without even getting a blood test or you're in a very simple panel. Crazy. Yeah, I'll get it. It's a it's kind of a cash cow because what guy doesn't want. Still taking your pre workout after you get to the gym, you're already late. What if your pre workout actually worked with your body? Are you tired of artificial energy drinks? Meet NO Beats, a beat based nitric oxide booster that supports your body's natural nitric oxide production for increased blood flow, mitochondrial ATP energy and endurance naturally. N 101 nitric oxide lozenges is a smarter way to fuel your workout. Just dissolve it in your mouth and it starts working before your first rep. No mixing, no jitters, no crash. 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So I'm 43. I use a scrotal cream like in the morning. Yeah, in the evening. I'm about 800. Okay, no, not like super physiological. But when I was doing Iron Man triathlon and just like eating barely anything and writing, I mean, when I say barely anything, I mean, not eating as much as I was burning, maintaining like 169, 170 pounds. I'm 200 right now. So it was super skinny. Yeah. You know, doing chronic endurance training. And I didn't mention that with the training piece, but that's like running from a lion all day, right? So nature doesn't want to bring babies into the world in a time of constant running from lions. So you see a down regulation of fertility and testosterone in that environment. And so when I finished like 20 years of just masochistic endurance racing, I was in the upper 200s, low 300s. Whoa, that's low. Yeah. I thought you were going to say that opposite night and day difference now. So nice thing. Yeah, you'd think like, yeah, out there, you know, doing the David Goggins thing and just like pounding the pavement, maybe that's going to increase your virility and your testosterone. But yeah, it wears you down. So my testosterone is higher than David Goggins. Let's go. Yeah, well, I don't know what is that. But I mean, you look at a picture of an endurance athlete and a sprinter, I mean, which one looks like they have more testosterone, true, which one looks more anabolic. So there's a trade off. Yeah, that's good. I'm a high VO2 max. Yeah, I guess VO2 max is important too. You know, the bigger question I see or challenge we have environmentally now, like epigenetic environmental is that when you have low T symptomatic for guys under 18, and we're seeing this in clinic and women, young women in 14, 15, 16 that have fertility challenges, it's really like an extinction challenge, like a global extinction challenge. And that they don't talk about is the populations are shrinking now across the globe. And where is it coming from? Yeah, what was that movie back in the early 2000s with Clive Owen, Children of Men, the Children of Men? I think that wasn't it. But it's basically like global infertility event, like all of a sudden like no women could have babies. That's the premise of the movie. I won't spoil or alert it, but it's like, it's worth watching just to see what they predicted back in, I'm guessing it was like 2007, 2008, and what actually happened. Yeah, like, all the way down to like the bill, if you watch closely, like the billboards in the city are, you know, they're advertising things like injections to maintain youthfulness and longevity and like, you know, like the forever young promises that's paired with infertility. It's like a lot of the stuff that we're seeing right now. I know it's scary, right? Yeah. Zach Bush, Dr. Zach Bush talks about this extinction, like we're in the sixth extinction phase. And it takes five generations for us to actually see the results and he ties it back to glyphosate because that whole, you know, the chemical change. But we're just starting to see now the effects of things that happened three or four generations ago. Wow. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. So if this continues, we're going to lose population. Well, we have to, you know, it's funny, but I believe maybe it's just because I'm an optimist that, you know, the world has a way of, and nature has a way of correcting itself. So with all the problems we're seeing, I think there'll be solutions. Yeah, hopefully it's not like a mass extinction event, though. It is interesting like how little we, I think, do a good job of wrapping our heads around the lifestyle choices that we make affecting our offspring. Yeah. There's even like a recent Diet Coke study. Did you see this one? No. So it was the equivalent of drinking because what I used to say up until I saw this was if you look at the carcinogenicity of the, which one is it in Diet Coke? Is it acesulfami or spartan? So it's one of the artificial sweeteners. Diet Coke has one and Coke Zero has another. Which has which, but it's one in Diet Coke. And if you actually wanted to reach the levels of that artificial sweetener intake that shows some type of cancer causing or neurotoxic event, you'd have to drink like 77 cans of Diet Coke. And, you know, I might have like a can when I'm going through the airport or a bottle when I'm going through the airport is like a treat, you know, once every two weeks or whatever, because I like the taste of it, honestly. Yeah. And then this newer study came out, and this was like in the past year, that showed that when you get to the equivalents of a much lower amount, it's like one to three cans, they were showing changes in the offspring. And this was in like rodent models with parameters related to anxiety, like the ability to be able to manage stress. So basically what that means is like if you have a wicked Diet Coke habit, you might, you know, have kids who are more prone to anxiety. Holy crap. You know, there's how many other things like we do on a daily basis that have this kind of effects. I mean, everybody knows about like the Dutch famine type of effects where like if you're, if your grandparents or great grandparents went through a time of starvation and lack of access to foods, you may be born with like a calorie conservation genetic pathway that predisposes you to obesity because your great grandparents had to just like stock away everything. Yep. I feel like that have that one. Because my grandparents were in Ireland, there was a lot of that over there. Yeah. And in an era of 24 seven access to hyper palatable foods that doesn't really do you many favors done down. I used to struggle to put on weight man. Yeah, it was an issue. People couldn't relate with me at all. They have opposite issues usually, but yeah, sucked. Yeah, yeah, it does. I mean, like it's kind of brutal, but it's almost like life is unfair, right? Those are the choices your parents made. And so, um, there's so many things to be grateful for. But yeah, it is kind of interesting. Those are the choices my parents made. So this is what I got to do with. Yeah, back in the day, like, um, this is like post like the 40s, my parents, like they didn't have a lot of the food preservatives, then they basically just put a lot of salt and canned foods. And so I grew up in an era where you didn't salt anything because the foods were basically just, you know, pre salted. And then, you know, so, and then all the studies about hypertension came out about salted foods. And now we're discovering that, you know, good salts are so important. I want a few to have the proper balance and mostly cellular hydration. Yeah. But if you have those like robust sodium conservation pathways, because your, your ancestors didn't have as much access to salts, and then you get like isolated sodium chloride, which is what you're going to find in table salt or processed foods, you get the blood pressure effects. And it's kind of sad because I love salt, like good, like mineral rich salt, you know, like whatever, red meat salt or clean salt or Celtic salt or whatever. And salts kind of gotten a bad rap when it fastens the isolated sodium chloride, that's the issue. Yeah. And also they, they decoupled the iodine. And that was a big thing too. So now the table salts will actually pull iodine out of the body. Yeah. So I think it's kind of, and they have people like, Oh, it's iodized, at least I'm getting my iodine to my thyroid favor. And it's kind of like the opposite. Exactly. Right now. Yeah. And so we're seeing a lot of iodine deficient and which has thyroid condition ramifications and hasium otos and we're seeing a lot more of that in clinics now. Well, simply because of the depletion of, do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? AI is changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote for over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price, and they work for you for free. You can even get same day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam required. And even if you have preexisting conditions, they work with companies that can help life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at select quote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at select quote.com slash dsh today to get started as select quote.com slash dsh. Hi, Dine. Through a normal body activity, but clearly in the foods that we're eating, pulling that stuff out of you. Really makes you wonder all the stuff we're doing now, how it affects our kids like you said though. Yeah, like even just drinking tap water, affect your kid. Yeah, if you do that every day. But you know, the thing is that's important. Drinking your neighbor's birth control pills. But you know, to your point, you're an example, like you're modeling, your children are growing up in your household where you may have all the hacks around, but you're creating a higher level of consciousness. So in a sense, you're reversing that trend that what you've just discussed, you can carry in, can make this a whole positive experience for the next generation. Yeah, yeah. And that's like, I think the coolest part about having kids is you don't necessarily want to like live vicariously through them and have your children fulfill the dreams that you never accomplished. But at the same time, it's almost like this mild sense of immortality. It's like, this is a young human being who I can equip to go and make the world a better place. And this is like a tiny stamp of my legacy that if I do the right things, I can actually keep on helping the world after I die, based on how I impress this young individual or what I impress upon them. And so I think, and I remember if we talked about this last time, Sean, but like the idea of systematizing that is such an important concept. All the reading we have like a greenfield family constitution, and it's got it's got the full list of our family values in it. And then we use those family values to in the same way that like a business might create a business branded mission statement, a greenfield family mission statement that just like weaves in all these core values, like radical transparency and honesty or contentedness, no matter our circumstances. And so we have this list of values, and then that's in the mission statement. And so those are in the Constitution. But then we have the family logo, the family crests every month. And we had like their unique spirit animals, their hex cars. Awesome. We've all got our end of life memorial wishes and our obituaries in there. We've got what we do on Thanksgiving, what we do on Christmas, what we do on Easter, like all of the different holiday traditions. And then we even have the rites of passage in there, like what the, you know, what's a young greenfield man do for the rite of passage from youthhood into adolescence and from adolescence into adulthood. And when they're 16, they got to leave the house for three months without any money from mom and dad and just go find their way, you know, wherever road trip, traveling internationally, whatever. And this is all packaged into a book that's a little over 100 pages long. And we build upon it every year, like we'll come back, we'll add some things, we'll take some things out. But then I can give this book to my kids, my sons, when they started their family, and then they can keep on building upon the Fantastic. And it's cool for the kids too, because like they get this almost like sense of pride and like what it means to, in our case, to be a greenfield. And like, oh, we don't complain not because, you know, dad said shut up and no complain, but because that's like on the wall on the mission statement, like this is what it means to be a greenfield. Like we're just content, no matter what happens, or we're able to be radically transparent and honest with each other and feel like it's a danger free zone to be able to do so. And those are just like built in to the constitution. And so it's kind of cool because they like know what they stand for. Can't focus, struggling to sleep or feeling wired? This balances your brain and body fast. A cutting edge EEG study found something phenomenal with quantum upgrade. Stress related brainwave activity dropped by 80%, calming alpha waves in the limbic system increased over 13x and HRV improved big time. That's just the start. Quantum upgrade is a 24 seven quantum energy streaming service that boosts your energy, focus, recovery, and sleep with no device needed. 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And so if you don't bring it back and centralize it from your, you know, from you and your wife and that experience, then where does it go? Just gets lost. Because we live in an era where you could be anything you want, like, you know, several generations ago, if your great granddad was a blacksmith and your granddad was a blacksmith, your dad was a blacksmith, you're a blacksmith, your horseshoes, your bill fences or whatever. And now you can, you know, thanks to YouTube and online education and the rapid transmission of information and a whole lot of other variables you could be wherever you want to be, but it also can create that disconnect. You were talking about Robbie where like, it's pretty easy to just like carve out your own path of life and almost leave behind not only the stuff that might have held you back from former generations, but also the stuff that could have served you. So like my sons are like they have a card game business, right? I'm in health and fitness and biohacking and all the sudden my sons are doing card games, right? But they're doing card games and still hanging on to a lot of the values that we as human beings, like as Greenfield human beings have. So I think that helps in this era where, you know, kids are probably going up going off and doing something might be starkly different than what your career is, but you can still pass on a lot of values. There's two parts to it too. You're shattering limiting beliefs. So they're actually able to look within and create that sense of esteem. And I think that it gives them an opportunity to actually find their true passion, their purpose of life. So it's just a huge gift. Having those values is important. You know, I grew up in a broken family, we didn't have something like that. So it's easy to get misguided in the wrong direction with certain friends who hang out with grown up, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That peer, that peer influence is important too, who you hang out with. I mean, I definitely spent many years just lost like trying to find myself bouncing friend groups. And if I had to set of values, I think it would help a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So well done, man. How'd you come up with that? Not my own. So I don't even talk about this that much on podcasts, because it's like outside my niche. I even wrote a book about this and like all the publishers were like, we're not going to publish that because you're not supposed to like publish a book if you're a health and fitness guy, that's not in the health and fitness category. So I even self published the book I wrote about this called boundless parenting. But a big part of it was like, I was homeschooled K through 12, I place a great deal of value on on like an auto didact approach to life, but also kind of like a self actualized approach to learning, which is what I experienced, right? I could study a lot of the things that I was passionate about. And I didn't necessarily have to learn at the same pace as the rest of the classroom. And I had a great deal of free time to in a spirit of curiosity, like exploring the things that I was truly interested in. And now that's even more called like, unschooling than homeschooling, right? And the idea of just like an experiential education, where maybe you're not taking geometry and math, but you're like building a tree for and learning woodworking and angles and arithmetic and whatever doing that. Or, you know, like in the case of my sons, rather than taking a formal course on logic or rhetoric or conflict resolution, like you're going to design a card game where a lot of those things are woven into the game. And my interest in this led to me interviewing a bunch of parents, just like as my sons were going through their formative years of life, all these cool entrepreneurs I knew with impactful children, many of whom were like proven successful models, because the kids had grown up and they started their own companies. So I did like the Tim Ferriss tools of Titans type of thing. And I sent all these parents the identical list of questions like, how did you discipline? What did you do when the spouses disagreed on something related to a child's upbringing? And how did you educate? And if you did public education, like, did you customize that in any way that allowed your kids to do some other things? And, you know, what kept you awake at night? And so that became like this anthology, I learned a ton writing that book. And then I learned about the legacy piece, not the stereotype, but the like, we went down to Utah, because it turns out like the LDS church and the Mormons are really good like genealogy and like passing on values and like, I know Mormons like no one. So names were great, great, great, great grandfathers. And there was this, there was this foundation called the Legato Family Foundation down there. And the guy who runs it, his name is Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA AI changing jobs and markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's coming to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation. But here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. 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Rich Christensen, we spent like three days in his cabin and he was just like feeding us for the fire hose, like all the things that they did build legacy and how they created these constitutions all the way down to just like the financial piece of it, like, you know, starting a whole life health insurance policy on each member of the family and then doing paid up additions to that. So you have like a family bank that you can borrow money against and pass on financial wealth. And, you know, when you start the Roth IRA for the kids and just like all of these different pieces of the puzzle. So between writing the book and then learning from this legato foundation, that's kind of like how a lot of that came in. Yes. Yeah, pretty cool. That's impressive. You got a next book you're working on now or? No, well, toying with ideas. So I just finished updating Balmos, which is like the Bible biohacking like six months ago. And so I just took like a six day retreat. Nice. No work, which is awesome. I already scheduled my next retreat next year. I haven't talked about this on a podcast before because I just finished it. But I think I'm going to do this the rest of my life. And you hear about Bill Gates for better or worse, I know he's controversial, but he would like disappear. I think for him it was annual with his big stack of books that he wanted to get through in his journal and stuff that he wanted to work through. And I have not taken more than like two days off work since I was 14 years old. Wow. I love what I do. And I'm hyper productive and I love it. But I decided to take a retreat that I finished like 10 days ago. And it was just six days at home. I was some books I wanted to catch up on and my journal and some time with God and in thought and writing both on the computer and in my notebook. And I sat down with my whole family and I told Jess and the boys, I'm like, you guys, you all need to sit down and identify a time next year. And this will probably wind up in our constitution. These are the kind of things that wind up in the constitution and choose like a three to six day time span where you're inaccessible, you're not scheduling anything, no phone calls and no work, because it was one of the best things I've done for myself. Wow. Really long time. And as a part of that, I kind of mapped out a couple of ideas for books. One on the idea of like I guilty as charged have kind of preached a message of like, you know, become boundless, right, which I think in the in the whole human optimization world can often mean how like the perfect right, like have your five hour morning routine where you're, you know, huddled up inside your hyperbaric chamber and in, you know, checking all the boxes and doing all the things you're back to the biohacking being expensive. But I think if you deny the fact that we are broken, right, that at the end of the day, we're going to have porous bones and and muscles will become sarcopenic and look like beef jerky and then have plaque to brains like that will happen no matter how healthy you live. Like at some point, let's you pass away by getting hit by a bus, like your body will degrade. And if you try to just like deny the fact that you're broken and just keep piling all the Botox and the biohacks and all the things on top of your like fear of being broken, then you're going to be a pretty unhappy individual, like you will always be just like running away from dying. But if you turn and embrace the brokenness and instead do what you can to be the best version of your broken self, then I think it's a much happier way to live. It sounds like it could be a depressing way to live like broken, I'm sick, but you are like like face it there. You will always be fighting chaos and entropy from the minute you get out of bed in the morning and it will get worse and worse as you age. But if you accept that, and you're happy about it back to contentedness, and you just have the very best combination of health span, lifespan that you can achieve, I think it's a better way to live. And so that's my idea for one book called something like broken. It's profound. And I'll Dr. Brian Johnson, yeah. And then the other book I want to do is just about all the myths in the health world, like all the things that are highly dogmatic, but have way more nuances to them. Like, do you cold plunge after work or do you not? Well, it depends. You know, if you were in there 20 minutes, the research has no for one minute, the research says is fine. You know, and gluten, you know, there's a recent study on gluten that showed that people who thought they had a gluten intolerance and then were like fed gluten, but not told that they were fed gluten, they were just fine. As soon as you find out that you're fed good, you're like all of a sudden like getting gas and bloating because you're convinced mentally, they gluten intolerance actually in your head and yes, some people actually do have like celiac disease and gluten intolerance. So just that and seed oils and you know, working out and VO2 max, like there's all of these things have nuances. And I think that'd be a fascinating book to write. You know, just like from in the trenches, experiential standpoint, like, how do we cut through the confusion and actually make a decision based not just on dogmatism or how do we monetize a certain belief pattern, but what does the research actually say and where is the nuance in the research? Ben, it's been fun, man. You've inspired me to take some time off next year. So do it. I'll take it. You gotta get quiet. You know, Elaine Glass wrote that book, Getting Quiet or Get Quiet. Michael's, Michael's, they got married. So I love that. And her whole journey through the lab, Ruth, and finding that quiet still point. And I think that's what we're forgetting because mostly for the kids now, because they're just so used to swiping up left and right that they forget that there's an inner voice inside of them. And you know, for me, I've always said that no matter how good you are in your own path, the true essence, like best doctor is the one that voice inside of you. And so if you're not quiet and you don't hear that voice, then you really don't get that connection. Classic, classic. I don't know if you call it a self improvement book, but I'm going to book by Napoleon Hill called Outwilling the Devil gets into that. It's a good one. Like they should. The Audex trance is how the devil keeps you from becoming the most impactful person that you can be because you basically caught up in all the distractions. That's the Aeolian hypnotic trance, how you live your days, how you live your life, and eventually before you know it. You're fulfilling one of the definitions of hell, which is me and the person that you could have been. I call that noise or cosmic dust. But I see the world through contrast. So I actually need that noise to get really zero focused. But you have to recognize that it's noise. That's the thing. Well said. It's been fun, man. Thanks for the opportunity. Thanks, man. Great chat. So you got it. You need to brush your teeth. Next time. 2008 loading up on the video. AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's here. I'm going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss protecting your future. 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