CSB368: Your Child Is Updating With New Content As We Speak
218 min
•Apr 15, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Pat and Woolie discuss their weeks including fighting game tournaments, game demos (Invincible vs 2XKO, Bridge Born, Eternal Life of Goldman), and story-driven games (Phoenix Wright, Kingdom Hearts 2). They cover industry news including Nintendo's anti-leak strategy, Pokemon card crime, and a controversial AI-generated game, while dealing with technical difficulties that cut the episode short.
Insights
- Community-driven game improvements (like Marvel 3 rollback bounty) can succeed where publishers won't invest, demonstrating the value of engaged fighting game communities
- Visual presentation and animation quality significantly impact player perception of fighting games, even when underlying mechanics are solid
- Indie game developers with strong pedigree (Celeste artist, Hyper Light Drifter composer) can create unique genre-blending experiences that stand out
- Nintendo's fake leak strategy reveals internal security challenges across the industry, with companies struggling to identify information sources
- Game design philosophy matters more than technical specs—real-time-with-pause mechanics and cozy game wrapping can work across any genre
Trends
Fighting game community taking ownership of legacy titles through fan-made improvements and rollback implementationsIndie games successfully blending genres (action-RPG with cozy management, platformer with dark narrative)Animation quality becoming a differentiator in licensed fighting games, not just gameplay mechanicsInternal security concerns driving companies to use disinformation as leak-detection toolsSponsored streaming becoming standard with content creators doing multiple takes for social media platformsRetro game remakes and re-releases (Castlevania: Belmont's Curse) generating significant community interestAI-generated game development being used as a marketing angle despite minimal actual benefitParenting content becoming natural part of gaming podcast discourse as hosts navigate childcareCross-platform controller standardization with Steam Controller 2 targeting specific games (Deadlock)
Topics
Fighting Game Balance and AccessibilityLicensed Game Development ChallengesIndie Game Design InnovationGame Animation and Visual PresentationCommunity-Driven Game ImprovementsRetro Game Remakes and PortsNintendo Anti-Piracy StrategyAI in Game DevelopmentStreaming and Content CreationStory-Driven Game DesignController Hardware EvolutionGame Narrative and Player AgencyOnline Gaming Toxicity and Rage QuittingVideo Game Crime and SecurityParenting and Gaming Culture
Companies
Capcom
Discussed regarding Marvel Infinite, Street Fighter 6, and internal leaks; Max announced $10k bounty for Marvel 3 rol...
Nintendo
Revealed using fake leak strategy to identify internal information sources; discussed potential upcoming games and re...
Square Enix
Developed Kingdom Hearts 2, discussed for animation technology and game design; mentioned regarding Final Fantasy IX ...
Disney
Announced R-rated Bloodborne animated movie in development; discussed as IP holder for Kingdom Hearts franchise
Skybound Entertainment
Publishing Invincible vs 2XKO fighting game; discussed regarding game balance and visual presentation issues
Supergiant Games
Developing Hades 2 with new story content updates; mentioned for ongoing content updates to live-service game
Rockstar Games
Currently experiencing ransomware hack affecting employee data; discussed as example of security threats vs. internal...
Valve
Releasing new Steam Controller 2 with 14-ton shipment arriving; designed to support Deadlock game
Sony
Producing Bloodborne animated movie; discussed regarding internal leak management and PlayStation hardware
Microsoft
Discussed regarding Killer Instinct game development and fighting game community support
People
Pat Boivin
Co-host discussing game demos, parenting experiences, and technical difficulties during broadcast
Woolie Madden
Co-host discussing Kingdom Hearts 2, game design philosophy, and industry news
Maximilian Dood
Announced $10k bounty for Marvel 3 rollback netcode implementation; provided gameplay tips for Invincible vs 2XKO
Robert Kirkman
Creator of Invincible IP who specifically requested fighting game adaptation; discussed regarding game design choices
Reggie
Mentioned as feeling unwell during recording; collaborates on Phoenix Wright playthrough
Bricky
Competed with Pat in Twitch Rivals 2XKO tag tournament; discussed character selection and tournament preparation
Quotes
"No dad that mommy can do it. No dad that I need mommy."
Pat (describing baby sounds)•Opening segment
"Fuck it. We ball right? Let's go all the way."
Bricky (on tournament commitment)•Twitch Rivals discussion
"The man with the yellow hat is a piece of shit."
Woolie (on Curious George)•Parenting discussion
"This is so insanely lovingly done that I am now concerned for the health of the animators."
Woolie (on Eternal Life of Goldman animation)•Game demo segment
"Every time there's any money on the line and somebody goes hey guys I have an idea, don't listen."
Pat (on tournament strategy)•Twitch Rivals discussion
Full Transcript
Yo, hey good afternoon. Well, how you doing not too bad. How easy I'm okay What is going on? I'm we're gonna we're in a no dad dad mode right now No dad that mommy can do it No dad that I need mommy. Oh, I wasn't so I wasn't sure I'm I even fucking here I wasn't sure if you're communicating the ideas from him or if you were saying like I am No, I am in no dad at mode like no no no no no he isn't no dad at mode Shit this week. I see Well This week I mean as like literally as of today Sounds have formed that are neutral sounds not quite real, huh? So This morning we got Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh Buh-buh we got buh-buh and it's like that's almost a thing and To which punch mom pointed out that if we spoke Arabic or There or Turkish or so then that would be dad first, right? I would just say that you do Yeah, I would have won if we spoke any of those languages perhaps even what Mandarin and a Bunch of others as well, but we don't therefore technically Buh-buh is gibberish to us but Depending on where you are you can count that and I would take that as a free win, right? You're either getting ma ba or ba, right? Like it's one of the plosives or a man Coming out well man is usually easier to say. Yeah, a plosive. It's literally just like your mouth opening while while sounds are coming out But yeah, no, I'll tell you we will take those we take those we got a Buh-buh-buh Don't you worry bud in just a few short years you're gonna be hearing like no daddy you stink And you're gonna come on to the podcast and cry like I'm trying not to cry right now Yeah, I mean I'm already I'm I'm pre loading up some some I got my my My mockery names pre loaded up. I'm a type one. Do you yeah, I'm gonna tell you one that we use on a regular basis For certain situations mm-hmm We call we call We call Color that Color that no Yeah, you're gonna teach that kid to roast your shit. Oh, it's happening No big big preemptive mockeries are occurring This will be a house of roasts It's it's early on munition, you know you got it You got it's kind of awesome though when they they just get your ass Yeah, like they they get you and you're like oh fuck But that also means that they will be able to go out into the world and get the asses of anyone else in around Including teachers and friends and yeah, that's right, you know foes alike so Yeah, you gotta you know if you if you're putting some verbal bullets in the pocket Then you gotta you gotta make sure that they're used responsibly I suppose But there is something there is something to like I want I want a quippy kid, you know a Well, I mean my my least favorite kid quip right now is He will occasionally call me Pat to throw me off my shit You can't let the damage show it's like And he'll he'll he'll do like a like a sassy like tilt and like throw his butt out the other way like a full Yeah, yeah, yeah Pat I want some milk and I'm like no Can't the damage the damage you can't let it show I Don't know what's going on. I just noticed that my camera is flickering and yeah, it's going a little crazy there I'm gonna Okay This feels like a more involved fixed and then we can handle live right now So well, let's see if you degenerate into like like a snowstorm. Yeah I suspect that this is one of those have you been using it and nothing has has changed about any setting at all for a long enough period of time Let's fuck with that. Let's just on occasion on occasion. It's literally simple Did you know that gravity affects your cables and it's Yeah, it's a little bit itchie mine particular, but this is an audio podcast, right? So who knows and or cares about any of that? Well, I like to be able to see you when you're talking See when your eyes are big the amount of people that are shook on Spotify just being like I have not seen their faces in years I can't believe this is what they look like now It's so sick because I have the chops now once we started to do the Spotify video Like you've just been listening to this shit. You haven't like even glanced half once I mean I listened to the hotspot in the giant bombcast for like a total of like eight or nine years The only time I'd ever see them is when I watched the live ones from E3 Fair enough fair enough. I guess Yeah, it's just it feels like the medium has has become Something else these days, you know like I don't need to see your face to hear like your god awful takes. No, I know I just need that. Oh, I disagree Yeah, but every once in a while the dreaded visual bit kind of happens and and you know, that's becoming more and more inevitable And so here's the thing you you definitely have that in reverse And so of eyes when you run into like an icon or on the street somebody from the show from from the chat and you're like No You've you've like it feels like it feels like the name got put into a tube and the tomb formed a full human around it Because then you think about them and you're like, oh, no now I don't see a random name. I see a human being gross Yes, I mean Like there's always the again there's ours the caricature in your head You know like the version of me that is gonna be run into at a con I will always have a copy of Marvel on me at all times and I'll playing it when you run into me, right? That's that's that's the expectation Anyways anyways Let's see I had a bit of a week did you some things occurred What let's take it from the top? There was the twitch rivals to XKO tag throw down Congratulations on your big win. Thank you very much. You know, we put in Not as much time as we needed to but still managed to clutch it out and I gotta say, you know, Bricky was awesome Just you know didn't think didn't know if we could do it, but we went all the way To 14th place. So that's all I got of what like a hundred out of like 16 Not dead last that's cool. Hey, that's all that matters. Hey, so so Here's what I will say There was we jumped on and we're like, okay What time are we gonna get to practice? It's like maybe a little bit the night before maybe not but that's about it Cuz he was busy and I was busy as well. He's always busy. Yeah, of course We and so it's okay. We got these babies running around of course. And so there's none. It's just like, okay One day of let's just see what we can get going to in the discussions happening inside the twitch rivals discord You know a certain Gentleman's agreement was proposed by one say jam That you know, perhaps everyone of the coaches which I had been set to be a coach even though I'm like, hey, I might not be in the right classification here But regardless of all the coaches it was that hey, why don't we all play Akali since it's Akali day one That's and we're like is such Bullshit he tricked you so That's not that's not not intentionally that's but it I was unfortunately bamboozled Because there was a proposition that was hey, why don't all the coaches run a Cali It's a Cali day one and a bunch of people in there were like, yeah, that sounds great And I'm like what a hype idea that's really cool. We're all gonna get a chance to show off the new character on day one Fuck it. Let's go. I don't know how to use her. I'll go figure something out Which I did the night before and kind of was like, okay Let me get up get it one get it one or two combos down cool. All right, let's run it and then Apparently at some point the day of there was a an update where someone went wait Hold on. I'm not actually expected to do this Are we and then it was like oh, I guess not but I guess some people might or something and it was kind of just in this You know this this nebulous states of source and it's like I think some people are gonna do it anyway So not I was like fuck it. I I let's the new character. Let's let's let's get hype Let's let's show off what she can do on day zero no less, you know and did you show off what she could do? Wally I got one round on Sonic Fox Hey This is listen, this is not say James Fault however the gentleman's agreement was put out and Some agreed to it including me and then there was a Renegging of sorts and I think that nobody No, no, no, no, that's not no, that's not the issue. Okay, the issue is hey I Am a professional fighting game player slash full-time fighting game streamer We are all Obviously professional fighting game players slash Full-time fighting game streamers right Right you can everyone here can pick up a character in a day Obviously look I think that a cool idea was proposed and it wasn't fully accepted by all and like after a period of time But if we're running the bit then yeah, I got fucked on Like if we're running the bit that absolutely like well you're you're a fighting game aficionado old head variety guy What I will say is past week of streams wasn't four days of invincible and 2x ko and it was really funny because We were talking to at what at Eva we're talking about like streaming and stuff with Zafferino and he's like oh, yeah, you know you can just kind of run this sort of set up with your stream And you know it's not that hard to get back warmed up for a tournament You know you kind of run this fear the week of and everything and it was a point where I remember I was like You think we run fighting games every single day and that we're a fighting game channel We're not we do it once a week and sometimes we miss those Saturdays and he kind of went oh There was a moment of oh shit. I thought you were like one of us Mountain with me, but you're actually here Casually fucking browsing at the bottom, you know and I my mistake I Okay, would you like to perhaps? Resinned your your your entry No, this is like me looking at you going well Will you stream Resident Evil so you could just hop into any Resident Evil game with me and we just co-op that shit there right now Regardless regardless of any of all of this right here's what matters is I said yo, Bricky How do you want to do this right? Do we commit or should I switch back and run one of the characters of one of my maids or whatever and Bricky said Fuck it. We ball right? Let's go all the way so that's easy. He's a good sort. Yeah, and I was like, you know what? let's do it for the hype and And and the thought was maybe we would see a couple other you know people doing it for the hype in that bracket No one did it for the hype Diaphone came and said that money is mine Everyone fucking played for the cash bro, but I you know we read it I think literally every time there's any money on the line and somebody goes hey guys. I have an idea Don't listen and it's not like it would have made much difference, but it was really funny And in the end. Yeah, so we did it. I was I was a colleague you and Bricky ran Darius and yeah, you know, it was I was like, okay, can I do some can I do some day one combos? I'm like, I got a day one combo or two down. She's she's cool It was fun. The thing with this thing around with her and I find her Her I don't want to describe it for her like Launcher loop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah timing for awkward the timing on her car. I really like her whole kit Yes, I think like as like a as like a scrub ass guilty gear character I actually really think she's got tons of fun stuff But her combos are just really weird and hard to do to do the advanced stuff like Marlon Pye wants You know, you got it. You got to really fucking get your fingers in a pretzel I do though. It's interesting to see a character like her where she can teleport she can left right fuck you up Do all these amazing little confusing ninja tricks, but in exchange for that her assists or dog shit She's not a good partner. She's a point character. Yeah Yeah, you don't use her for her assists You use her for the fucking baked in smoke bomb mix up her like standard assists Has like some value on like wake up cuz like it can it'll meet easy super easy But like it like I've been doing like a combo and I want to extend it with her Assist like it misses at point like and and so compare that to somebody who comes in and fucking body checks you off the wall You know or somebody like blitzcrank who's just like so you want to extend this to hell go for it So is this what it means to be mid lane? Is that what the idea is here? I don't know about that Okay, like Holly never helped nobody but a callie in league. Yeah, so if I was gonna say if you're a character That's not really playing Well with others in in league does that is that what the mid lane is for like you don't rely on The assist mentality was based off of because like Darius is a bruiser, but he's a top laner, right? Okay, if you're in mid lane and Darius comes in oh shit Yeah, cuz Darius isn't a fucking amazing assist, right when he shows up both of them are super good And my extension it's like when Timo comes into your lane as a bonus. You're not like oh I'm fucked you're like fucking this is so fucking annoying Okay, I'm down that's that's like an interesting idea So the mid laners convert into characters who are solid on their own, but don't really Necessarily add much to team to your assists team wise. Yeah, okay keeping it accurate, right? I think it's crazy that a callie is not a mix-up character I think that is I think that is so Bananas that echo and Yasuo get to keep their like mix-up king fucking No, she's got mix-ups in the sense that like once the smoke is out She can teleport behind you and like really make it hard to deal with her left right Sure, but she's not like floating fucking time-wander on the fucking screen and crossing you up and fucking Overdouble overheading you in a fucking hop. Also. I noticed that like when you do her actual teleports Like if the person is just kind of mashing jab They'll just jab in the direction that you appear in because it's not so fast that you're gonna get to act first You know That being said man She's so like cool to watch and well animated like should have been in the game to start fucking she looks great I agree because they're putting an extra character into the years They're doing an extra six character. Yeah. Yeah, that is actually the last thing I would have expected from a game that fired half its staff Seeing like that that every time she's like yo the line find balance in death goes so hard and Then kind of finding out that it's like oh, she didn't have that much sass back in her original voice lines in the game She was kind of a sassy ninja girl, but those lines were fairly limited Yeah, I feel it seems like a lot of this kind of was developed after right so Interesting. No, just the couldn't interesting to see the conversions Question yeah, because this is this is what's been kicking around so to X go announced that they're gonna have a sixth character this year and New fuse and a new fuse. So here's the question Is that a sign of wow? I just saw your camera glitch out and it was you from like last week It was you with like with like non purple lighting What the fuck okay, all right, that's crazy, okay, then it's the it's the it's the camera itself Then is what that's telling that's nuts. Yeah, is it because my time hey, they've they tightened up the fucking work, you know schedule or whatever or is it because well These are all the characters that had work started on them and we're never gonna get a fucking season two So let's put them all out in this year So, I mean, that's the that's the whoa this game isn't canceled like discussion Version of it and I don't think that doesn't seem to be what it is I think the big I hope not no because that big announcement was like we got a new still got new stages We're doing an extra character. We got a new fuse We're doing all this stuff and I think the point of that big look at all the extra new shit that's coming this year as well Was to specifically signal hey, we're making new things actually this is not the Race to the end of content that was planned that people are thinking it's gonna be I think they're specifically trying to signal the opposite to say no We've started working on new things because we don't want people to think it's like racing to end of service You know because that that is a perception because of the I would like that it to continue I'm having a lot of fun with it. Yeah Um, but no that was a that was a a a fun little Event and you know again a gentleman's agreement Mostash's Gentlemen's agreements only work when you're dealing with gentlemen not fucking shit bag fighting game We we lived by it and we died by it, you know, we went down with the ship Um So that was fun And it's it's fun too because like yeah, I can think is as you say that I'm like, okay Just the way Bricky even talks about like picking characters in this game these games and stuff It's like he's looking for the most disgusting shit possible And the very first thing we just we discovered when I when he had me to like give him the basics Was he wanted somebody with big gross buttons? Yeah, why he's running Darius war crime normals, right? so In any case good stuff fun event the other things I got around to were starting out Phoenix Wright ace attorney to and justice for all and Justice for all justice for all I'm gonna keep saying and it's too bad It's in fact they did the weird thing where yeah, like the logo that used to say Phoenix Wright ace attorney is now ace attorney justice for all Yeah, it's gonna be ace attorney from then on so the words Phoenix Wright are not actually part of the title of the franchise Well then cuz then you got to other games that are actually Apollo justice or you know, right? Right, right, right. Okay, so the ace attorney can is as multi can be multiple people true I love how it's ace attorney. Not many of them are particularly good attorneys Me if a was a good attorney Yeah, she seems she seemed like fucking legit And we're finding out I guess about her her past and stuff. Okay, we did the first case Which was with Wellington you know your tutorial crash out villain and It it like I will say like the only thing I say there is like okay you got your your kind of posh douchebag character that gets introduced right away and It's so satisfying when you see those moments where gantt or What should we call it fucking other dude Von Karma are crashing out and having a like frame of like right that guilt But it with this dude you're not on that level you're nowhere near that level and you're sweating and panicking just turns you into a fucking goofy and a maniac character. Yeah And it's like oh you don't look cool at all like the last guy Gleaned back and did like a soul bad guy dragon install like Lightning shock frame, you know of rage and turned into a kuma and you are here Melting into a puddle on the stand Unfortunately, you're running into the issue that you have if you play them anywhere near to each other, which is you're going from the fucking peak like the like final boss battle into Some shit bag who didn't pay his parking ticket. So that's why you caught him, you know It's it's the quality of the villain Did it is also the quality of justice that is invoked right and There's even and when you have those moments of like you think you got me But I got one left in the chamber like that little like you're squeezing through the cracks and narrowly escaping thing. It's like You got a tall order to beat the last two from that first game, you know So I can't wait to see what this area says in store But I can I can say for a fact that like the I can tell you conclusively that that tall order is Absolutely met on every one of its final cases. Okay Okay, I can argue about like no this one wasn't so good or this wasn't wasn't so good But like that final case is always a fucking showstopper I can I can but I can see the energy for this game is a lot of excitement but also some trepidation and hand-wringing and some Well, oh boy, oh Boy, I can't wait for this case and me and Reggie are kind of just like What the fuckers? What are we in for here? No, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. There's an energy about this game. That's kind of confusing and dark There's some incredible cases in this game. Okay, okay. Yeah this there's some incredible cases So we will we will see where we go from here I Also was quite shocked to see the new one two new mechanics one Big is Here is your stand Justice for all the lock click link Cyclops right and I'm like We're out here in the world putting people on the stand to gamify the Investigation mode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like, okay. That's pretty sick You can also do they the game also does some some cool little tricks with Cyclops. Okay Yeah, I saw one or two things that seemed to be like kind of interesting And be hinted at I think Cyclops stay around for like a long time. I think that just becomes part of the Part of formula well, it's it's considering the fact that the whole magic bullshit was like present in ever since the first case But always like a weird aspect to the world now It actually is like no no no magic is part of this game world and it's nuts Oh, yeah, I know you always got a spirit medium or some bullshit just to cheat. It's never just the law Yeah, and then the second thing which is huge is you can now present people in the case as evident as Objections, right? You can present people And not just evidence and so that opens up a whole lot more In terms of how you think about these questions and their answers That was something that was like not explicitly mentioned in the tutorial But like there was a moment there where someone kind of mentioned by the way you can do this now and it's like, oh shit That's big, you know Yeah, so that's it you could start so far started on that first case Or second case rather so we got to meet Morgan Faye as well the Fucking lady-height beast with her with her robes and such And yeah, no just you know, well not much not much else to say until we progress further, but Good shit You know, it's a weird detail So I played these games a long time ago I played them like back when we first met like in 2003 4 5 right The only detail I remember about any of them is who the culprit is Interesting that's it. Yeah, okay. Okay, so like I could go back and play, you know justice for all and be like I know it's so and so Fucking how that seems impossible so I even now it's been one year and I remember the main piece of evidence that was used to like turn the case around I Don't remember the twists and turns of how we got there. I know that it wasn't Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You kept the piece of you kept the cut out of leather with the handprint on it, right? You basically there's one item. That's the turnabout moment item the the the fucking Video camera footage. Yeah, I'm like thinking about case 5 and ace attorney one and I'm like my brain's just like Lana likes to eat lots of cookies Sure of Ace Attorney one case 5 the blue blazer Looks a whole lot like a boss in it. It looks like like like a vise in midair. Yes You're good. You're combining the blue badger with blonde blazer. No, yeah No, and and I was playing I was playing fucking Dispatch and I kept calling her the blue blazer over and over and over No Blue badger blue badger. Yeah, okay. Okay badger I When you I wasn't thinking of of dispatch. I was thinking I mean I think that's Owen Hart actually If I'm not mistaken wasn't he the blue bomber no blue bombers mega-man wait, hold I think blue blazer It wasn't either blue meanie. No blue meanie is another Weirdo I'm pretty sure blue blazer was Owen Hart Blue blazer was Owen Hart. Yeah, okay. There we go blonde blazer blue blazer blue badger blue meanie blue bomber blue bomber This is tough man blue Lagoon blue newy Where we going here blues clues Though we're not there yet. No Took a little moment so Unfortunately Reggie's feeling a little under the weather and You know taken taken a minute to deal with that also like I don't want to like this is fucking Phoenix Wright voice acting is Dementing so no we want to be in tip-top shape for all that so I took a minute did some solo streams You know, there's some there's some doctor Shrank nerds in our chats and in the the csb chat and I would like somebody to reach out to me and Explain why I can talk about bullshit for like five hours straight. No problem. Not a yawn Not a not a parched throat not a cracked lip, but if I have to read something someone else wrote For X amount of time. I'm coming off scraped and raw and fucked on and I it's I don't understand I I've gotten like me page gotten distracted During like a pre-stream and just gab for like three hours But like I'll do like an hour of voice acting reading and I'll be like, oh, where's my water? Oh So I think it's a combination. I've after doing a bunch of long talking and the long reading streams I can say that it feels like a combination of every extra like Every extra meg of RAM your brain is dedicating towards an a task like reading it becomes exponentially more tiring To do the rest of the things you usually do like all your automated processes continue But like the part where there's a big wall of text that you have to get through It adds a lot of extra stress to it And then I would say that you're also talking in a way that Allows you to breathe naturally at your own pace and stop when you want to but when you know, there's like an upcoming Long, you know, glut of words to get through you kind of are like forced to Stop and then push further than you would want to naturally so you don't take as many breaths as you would if you were in control Of what you were gonna say that reminds me I have a piece of a parenting advice for you So you may say the kid may become infatuated with Pete the cat or curious George or Pig the pug big fan of pig the pug pig books are great. So you'll be at the bookstore and You will see a compilation of eight curious George stories all in the on like a big hardcover And it'll be like, you know, like, you know, 30% off compared to buying eight different curious George books You know like fucking sick. That's awesome, right? So that's what you're gonna you're gonna pick up and you're gonna be like, I'm gonna read this girl Do curious George book before bed and that's gonna that's gonna sleep her up and that's great But what you forget is that the child have eyes So when you read, you know curious George and the dump truck Which is book it's story three of eight Mm-hmm. Well the final page of curious George and the dump truck on the opposite side of the fucking book has curious George goes to a costume party So you're like and now we're done and the child has the speed to go that one that would read that one now No And that's how you get fucking like In a loop those This gives you the oh no, we're done with curious George It was like we have read for curious George's back to back you need to go sleep. No, no that one and you're like no The nefarious design of not putting a blank page before you advertise the next they know they knew oh you son of a bitch Bro, bro. I mean page. We've been we were we're George doubt right now, bro It's George. It's a curious George household right this second. Oh God damn it Like it's absolutely crazy How many times in a row you can read the same goddamn curious story also the man with a yellow hat is a fucking asshole Oh, god damn it. Okay. The man with the yellow hat is a piece of shit. What do you do? First he kidnaps George from Africa He steals George. Okay Okay, it's and to sell him to the zoo That's that's how curious George gets to America Okay, okay, George breaks out To go live with the man with the yellow hat because because he loves him because he was nice damn So that's a bad start more than that every single curious George story is the man with the yellow hat takes curious George to a chocolate factory or a fucking Firehouse or a department store and then goes George you wait here I'm gonna leave you a cappuccino monkey completely fucking unsupervised for like a half hour Yeah, okay, okay, okay every single time it gets in all sorts of wacky I do a monkey business man with the yellow hat shows up at the end and goes no George What have you done? Oh, I guess it all worked out in the end But like it's irresponsible. I don't remember the other details, but I do remember he is regularly left unattended So that makes me like the thing that gets me really bad is that there'll be these moments where like, you know The department store head will come over like that monkey ruined my display case and And everyone's like well he helped pack the other gifts for the children So it's all fine And I'm just thinking about if I'm in a store and a man left an unattended fucking monkey in my fucking store I'd lose my fucking shit man He's eating things off the shelves and touching people So we're not gonna get into the logistics of walking around town with a giant Titan red dog. Are we? They get into the logistics for that a little bit because I have always looked at Clifford with fear and a sense of dread Because what do you do move? You know that yeah, well used to live in the city. Yeah It's a puppy So it's full of energy and you're like you're telling me that's not gonna trample and ruin neighborhoods Like yeah, no Clifford does in fact do like a really Significant amount of property damage throughout his books the fuck it. I'm sure millions You know adding up. It's kind of insane like that's a terrifying Wally that's okay because Clifford had a year as a movie star and He's got a good heart and that's all that matters But the idea of being trampled underfoot by this giant red puppy is kind of insane and I've all that's all like even if we're talking about what the fuck is going on in this children's book You know at least a dr. Seuss world thing is like yeah, well the laws don't apply here. You're in Seuss world No, no, you're in the fantasy land where the where the undesirables that dr. Seuss didn't like don't exist It's just the hoos It but whatever whatever the logic is of everything it can be like it can be upside down and that's totally fine But if you're trying to put this giant red dog in my neighborhood, what the fuck? What's what's how am I supposed to feel like I'm not gonna get a city apartment? I don't know what their dad did for a living because he must eat they upgraded to a home in the burbs just so Clifford to have a dog house the size of their house next to their shit and Then then there's just fucking Caillou Caillou's a piece of shit Like like you have this this monkey getting up to like unattended antics you have a giant Titan red dog and then there's just this shit kid You like incentivizes children to act badly Like your child will pick up bad behavior from Caillou I thought it's funny too because I didn't like I remember when I thought Caillou was just a French only thing that only we knew about And it was everywhere. It was everywhere. Yeah, well because the name you know you'd think but I remember like a lot I just saw people talk lots of people think Caillou has cancer because he's bald because he's bald and I think the reason why they think that Is they want it to be true Because that means we'll live in a world without Caillou Yeah, I think I think the idea was probably like do you have a child that is that is shaping up to be a nightmare well here show them some Caillou and That will be relatable and then you can try to curb Whatever is going on there, but what if you what if you in fact just make them worse What if instead you just had your child character model good behavior like kindness and sharing and all that good shit? Yeah No, I'm gonna have a moment to reexamine a lot of this this literature and see where we're at now But oh versus back then This I'm gonna bring this up every time it's even tangentially related Arthur was right to punch DW That that shit was so outrageous Like me and Paige rewatched it like relatively recently because our memory was like a little off DW's behavior is so out of fucking control She breaks into his room throws his model airplane out the window and it smashes to pieces Then when he's like what happened she goes you're playing stupid. It doesn't It's absolutely unbelievable I Arthur Arthur it's funny because like that's what I Yeah, I never I didn't end up watching it like I know it can I feel like it was it started Later for me so I didn't I didn't watch much of it, but I've heard this and I've seen I've seen the child the terror child his sister be an asshole Whatever I heard you I end up thinking of Darkwing duck though and and what the little girl would call him now DW didn't wouldn't have done that Anyway Moving along a couple other things this week Since I had a chance to do some solo streaming Popped in the invincible versus beta so that happened that game looks like trash Man So I watched a good bit of yours of your show and I checked out a diaphonies Breakdown of it. Where he's like here's how every character can do a touch of death Yeah, and how Omni-Man has like a fully safe on block invincible reversal on frame zero Okay, so gay nonsense so mechanically and stuff because because because the deal is is that like any anyone had everyone that has a touch of death And you can break anything in the game, but You just have to not get called out for it, right? But um Excuse me to go back to the beginning on it like I Love I really like invincible. I think I had a good time with the show I love Ki and the team they make they made a great good-ass fighting game and everything coming together here It's just like apparently the creator of invincible was the one who specifically said I want to make this a fighting game Yeah, Kirkman want a fighting game specific which is like oh you picked that yourself Well, then I can't even I can't say anything like I'm like you wanted that for your for your idea for your IP So be it you're allowed to do that and that's cool. I like the fact that I agree with that I well, I think that like basically them like I it's more than just hey someone Picked this and it wasn't a good fit. I feel more like if the creator chose that then it I'm like, ah, all right I Feel more on him sure sure But I give it I give it more leeway because it doesn't feel like someone misusing things or whatever the case is It's like you you yourself picked it, right? the and here's the thing is to like The the flying brick problem that we talk about of like the characters are all like very samey with their costumes and their movesets is It's there But I realized that like that doesn't have to be the end of it in the sense that like Dragon Ball fighters You know has a lot of martial artists that have a ton of inspiration from the the manga But you can do a lot with how you design their movesets and what you do with them to make it more Interesting and unique per cat or for each character. They do that. Um, what's a bigger problem? What's a bigger problem is actually the fact that the animation itself is very stiff, right? And there's a lot of attacks that feel like they have no In like tweening to them It's just a lot of snapping into the final keyframe Whether it's an uppercut to left hook or a right hook There's a lot of characters doing this kind of like chest out pose a left hook a left hook a right hook and occasionally one of these and it kind of snaps into that right and Like I know that like Netherrealm games are like the comparison point for like yeah It's like NRS style animation Netherrealm has like these other shitty awkward kicks and stuff This doesn't have that going but it does just have a lot of like Not smooth moments when you're going from normals to specials to supers, etc It just feels like you're snapping one frame into one frame a lot of the time It looks like like a old style 2d fighting game that doesn't have enough keyframes for its punches and kicks And the thing is is that like in terms of how it looks visually outside of that animation I'm super willing to give like a lot of leeway in the sense that Power Rangers battle for the grid is not an amazing looking fighting game But it's it's a pretty it looks fine. You know, it's clearly like not a super high budget one But everything that is animated is animated great It's moving and in a way that doesn't look too stiff everything smooth And there's a lot of cool shit happening between the characters and you know their power slashes and swords pulling out their weapons whether it's the All the different Ranger weapons and the summons of the swords and stuff they got style, you know, they move around and do things and That could have been a thing where It was stiff because you have a bunch of characters all in their Ranger outfits, you know with their weapons kind of doing You know, you could have had the exact same problem there But instead you didn't and they made the game Flow and made the animation flow in a way where it doesn't feel stiff So this has that problem up front and it's always gonna be the case that like it bugs me to look at right also It looks really I'm watching like Max's stream right now, right? And it looks like when characters tag in and combos are happening. Everyone is overlapped and All of their effects are overlapped on each other that makes it look really Messy so tag games have this thing of obviously yeah Clutter and thus it makes silhouettes of the shapes of the characters very important It makes colors very important and it makes like they're all energy outlines Or less the same silhouette and it makes colored outlines very important to 2x KO dragon ball couple these games do things to try to make it more Visual but here. Yeah, you have a lot of characters in Viltramite outfits that kind of slam into each other and look at look very similar So you have that clutter issue for sure but Here's what I'll say is I was also kind of trying to figure out the the gameplay a bit moving around And I was like this is a little bit slow. I'm not quite getting the movement It's not feeling as snappy as I kind of want it to and then Max showed up and went yo Okay, go into training mode right now Okay, you're using Alan pick Alan. All right. I want you to jump and press dash and the meter burn button and I did and he he opened my eyes to an aspect of this game that I couldn't figure out beforehand which is Movement and the way this feels to play is there, but it costs resources So it's like drive meter essentially Yeah, it's boost I think and I you press the boost but yeah So you start moving around with boost and all of a sudden I'm like oh shit like you can go You can do a lot of fast crazy things and it actually like for the flying characters It opens the game up massively You know and like yeah, basically the max was just like free your mind You know like here take this tip and I didn't realize that that was there And it made it feel a lot better to do that You basically had The the characters who could fly able to do a lot airborne a lot of airborne stuff And then the ones who are on the ground could do more of it on the floor But like they're more limited because they're heavier big bodies and stuff, you know So that was a big moment that kind of opened things up for me and then he also showed me Two or three other little tricks like there's the way combos work is You can do like you know a very easy standard stronger buttons You know you do a light into a medium and medium to a heavy all that stuff You have a standard progression Etc. But it also has a killer instinct style combo system where you can do like a punch into a Hadoken back into a punch back into a Hadoken and like it can do like you can essentially do what amounts like a killer instinct combo it has a lot of freedom in terms of how you can extend things and When you use meter in the middle of the combo or use your assist or tag out or whatever use the mechanics It takes the limitation that would end force the combo to end Sooner and it lets you extend it and do more with it So I'm like, okay So if you use the mechanics and use this meter system a lot and stuff you can move a lot faster You can do more stylish combos. You can kind of improvise and do things in a much more open-ended way gameplay wise, right? and then the other way they kind of the things you talked about like touch of death and stuff game like what they allowed to happen is you Can do crazy wild tag into each other forever last fucking combos But if the person you're if you're on defense you can do a combo breaker by calling in your partner to break you out of Whatever you're getting hit by So you then you have this Ki kind of system where calling in an assist leads to the person who's doing the combo potentially Anticipating that and trying to break it in advance And so you have a nice little mind game to the way things are working there It's very much like what if they made a Ki team game, you know, how would their how would their whole design philosophy expand Into having multiple characters on screen. So I was like I Understand now and he had he kind of from just those little things. I saw okay There's some cool stuff here and if you like the Ki sort of combo system and you and and you know the whole like some of the Even the the way that meter works in Street Fighter 6 where you've got drive that lets you move or drive that lets you Do exes and stuff like that. This is kind of like that too So I towards the end after kind of fix like like learning about that and going and playing a bit more and testing it out I was like, okay, there's some pretty fun stuff happening here mechanically But it's like You've the visuals are still the visuals, you know And I and I and I thought to myself too in advance that I'm like the guys who made Ki I know how to make a good ass fighting game. I don't have any doubt in my mind It's gonna that the fun is not gonna be there because like fucking Hunter Hunter and then impact. It's like, yeah guys Who knows right that's up in the air, right? There's there's been some some misses there Here they they know what they're doing and when I started hearing from people like that are like, yeah gameplay wise This is super sick, but you have this visual issue as well as the characters not being distinct enough from each other That's gonna unfortunately always be what people have to get through to get to this gameplay part I'm talking about but I'm happy to know that that's there as opposed to Like visually it's there. It's not interesting to me and also the gameplay was lame, you know This doesn't look Anywhere near as fun to play as Taylor instinct It's like yeah, I'm gonna have to like balance is obviously a part of it, right? So like when I when I beseech the sage diaphonies on the mountain And They're they're their proclamation from Olympus is that this game has the most broken shit It's like a like an impact level of broken shit the apahone Diapahone What's that diapahone? Yeah, no, maybe I Will never pronounce their name correctly, but how do you pronounce an underscore? Yeah And like but like I'll take your word for it right like it's sick to play and like there's all this cool tech in it And like it's fun to play I need to see the full final version, but there's interesting Let's say like this interesting idea like good game to play like I'm hearing like hey Do you want to play a game that's as fun to play as killer instinct with shittier graphics and a much more boring roster? Cuz like I so I don't know I have no love for I don't know anything about invisible I see like clips on tiktok of like Like or a farming bits from fucking teenagers or whatever the fuck Like 60% of that universe is Superman Mm-hmm like like 70% yeah, yeah capes heroes and tights. Mm-hmm totally like but like just just strong man Guy who's strong so it can fly so yeah cuz the the the you know the bit that the the the story is built on is Like what if justice league but fucked up shit? Right, yeah, which also I mean your guy that energy is also in the ether right now because of the boys You know and homeland are existing so like it's interesting that they're these are both things that got adapted now years later from Their original time frames was which were what if evil justice league and yeah, I'm aware that like it's a it's a Like it's kind of a send up II. I mean cuz like they're called Viltramites, right? Yes Okay, so they're the mustache people Sure, yeah, cuz this did you know that divot on your fucking lip mm-hmm That's Viltram. Oh Interesting, I didn't know that Literally the race of the mustaches. Okay Okay, and also if you have a mustache In an old cape comic that meant you're the evil version of the the guy clearly I mean some of them don't but most of them do But like yeah, I'm watch I'm watching footage here I'm watching max and it's the guy who Seth Rogen plays that's orange Alan the alien Invincible and his dad mm-hmm, and they're all just meet men throwing meet man punch. Yes Yeah, that's the you're not gonna get past that that thing where when you look at a bunch of these other fighting games and even You know I was kind of trying to like I was almost like acting this out I was talking to Reggie about it, but it's like you have like Any of these like whether it's looking at strive looking at 2x ko You know and you know what I'll even say looking at net impact Which is currently on the on the thing you're like a lot of moments of character silhouetting is it being awesome? You have these moments of like a big stylish upside down echoes turning upside down and Flicking the fucking Timewinder back at you, you know and and and like you have these really just these moments where even if normals and buttons are kind of like snappy because the game is fast when people are doing special moves and Supers and things like that. They're still like a whole like Smooth animation to things that kind of like flows, you know a lot of a lot of love is put into that and It when you look at a fan game or a mugen game that is trying to do like what if everything versus everything go raw They kind of struggle from this they have the same problem of like oh you gave none of these animations any like Attention because you just care about how many fucking fast crazy Gets you can land in one thing and so that just like you're watching Yeah, we're so we're showing that thing with like vice versus Ryu or so and you're kind of like okay You just did an air combo and vice did like 15 different buttons And they all were key frame snaps flashes into each other and it looks like a raging demon or something like is going off You know you got to take a second to think about how cool things look when they happen and when you When you let things squash and stretch and flow into each other the impact means more It took time I would say too for like some of dragon because like a Kaler instinct, you know The first season was a lot like gameplay wise and visually stuff like things improved a lot over time It got way better towards the end Watching the way that Ultra instinct Goku flops and flips around and fucking swags on you all over that game is like Exactly what I feel is missing from this, you know, so I'm glad you brought that up because as I've been watching this footage my brain went I Feel like there is more just even visual clarity differences of like watching the characters fight between three Goku's or three Mortal Kombat ninjas of The old style that were just the same sprite colored different colors as I am between The fucking bricks. I'm looking at on the screen here. Yeah I Okay, I don't know how to Describe if you if if like if person is looking just going dude just shit on the shitty game It sucks an open-ass dump on it I'm being honest about what I played and the truth about what I played is it looks like shit. I don't like the visuals I don't like the fact that the roster has a samey super superman problem But I also discovered that the gameplay had more going on with it Thus, I'm going to talk about the good things about what I saw in addition to the bad. I'm going to be honest I'm not going to lie to you. I if you just want to hear me fucking Flanderize everything then turn into tune into another show dude, but like this is why I'm gonna be real about it But this is why I started with like this is on Kirkman So like ideally tell tale would it continue to exist? and they would have gotten That kind of thing or like the the folks over dispatch would have done that but like I I games are back that we can now get like lame-ass licensed fighters again well, so no I mean a Really solid point here of just like yeah the legacy of like the MVCI thing right where Marvel Infinite? It's like all gameplay was fun, but visually it would look like shit. You're like yep. We're still here and Here's what I'll say is a game when you have to fucking monkeys pie a game with That looks good, but plays like shit will die infinitely faster than the opposite It'll catch attention initially, but yeah, it'll sell 10 million copies and Ed and Ed Boone will get to present awards But you know you can you can look at your net impacts for that you can look at a random Anime fighter of the day whether it's a my hero academia game a kill-a-kill game And if you want to fucking start some shit we can talk about a JoJo fighting game, right? You know, I'm just thinking if we're gonna get stuff. That's like kind of kusouge Can we get stuff more long lines of like I just I remembered something I had to go check But an X-Men Mutant Academy 2 You're in a wheelchair in the wheelchair he would do fucking floating he would in combos on you he would and then I think the opposite Issue is where you have a game that looks bad, but has a good thing going on behind it and now you run into this like rumbleverse and and You know well this and the infinite thing as well where it's just like I don't know What you expected I don't know how to make it sound any other way except like This thing that has a good quality on it. It bothers me that there that it's Mired in this bad that is up front on it, but It was genuinely surprising that I was like oh, I didn't realize that this was going on here And I can see why some people were going. Oh, there's some fun stuff mechanically happening here So I think what's gonna probably happen with this is I think people are gonna play it in the community at the very least For a bit, you know, I think it'll like whatever the the rollout is and whatever their support tough for Time frame for it is it's not like a Ki thing where it's direct Microsoft or whatever this is like skybound and you know, they can just choose to be like, okay We we tried we made our money or we didn't work out But I think that like at the very least it's gonna get a little it's gonna get a season or two of just like people kind of fucking around with it mechanically because there's stuff going on there and there are people that like Play these that are like looking past that visual problem But in terms of this being well received at large or even by the invincible fan base at large as well like I Don't know, you know, I I mean, I think that we're also like fighting game Fans and players that are looking for a specific type of thing out of that genre. I would be it's hard to say Whether what is being shown here is exciting for someone that doesn't care anything about the genre But just loves invincible, you know, but I will say that those people showed up in fucking rage quit and they got their Their money's worth out of that demo highly technical Like sweat ass tag game for the average TV viewer is maybe a mistake Cuz like I can't wait to play the fighting game. I think like they're going to just die If the alternative is some some games should be made shallow and bad Yes I'm always gonna say that I prefer a game that I personally find interesting to engage with you know, I always prefer My mind I want video games to be released that that I enjoy Obviously, but like do you like there there's this is just the 2x go thing again, right? It's like do you think that may be going for the fucking most visually confusing? sweatiest generate form the moment yeah The moment you have to sacrifice The interesting visuals to get there then that's that's that's the thing is that is that a real-com comparison? Is that a fair thing because yeah, are we looking at Dragon Ball? Sparking zero or like look how fucking sick this looks Who cares how it feels our plays right? I don't know. I don't know but I can't say personally that like I I want the team that made a previous game that I enjoyed to make another game. I enjoy But oh Man, is it just not the sum of its parts here? But it did interest me at the very least enough to be like you know what when it releases I'm curious. I want to because I want to play Cecil who is You know your boy. Yep I want to play as him as normal man with a very expensive tech keeping up with these these supermen and I want to play as conquest who is the Broly of this world basically and I'm curious to see how that feels because as a fan of those characters and just you know the fact that they might they might Feel a little bit different in this type of setup I'm curious to go in and see if the mechanics are rewarding to me and such But yeah, I don't know that this is gonna like particularly last I just don't think it's gonna die as fast as something like Nenpac did you know I kind of worry about a injustice issue Where man look we do have a varied roster But all the really good guys are Invincible and his dad and the the the wharf Battle Beast yeah, I mean I don't I don't know that like I was wondering if we were gonna see like 15 Invincibles on the the characters select screen and at least with this demo so far They haven't shown that to be the case so mmm shouldn't that be the the assists for angstrom yeah Yeah, cool. Yes. Yeah, cool. We'll show up and have all his assists You should play like Garganos and have the Invincibles come out of portals So that could be a really interesting character to design came gameplay wise if they commit to it and I hope they do I Would also love to see There's some fun if you know the lore there's some fun picks in there There's the this the the invincible equivalent of Dr. Strange is a is a character called seance dog And it's and it's like what if dr. Stroud in the in the world of invincible He reads a comic called seance dog and it's just dr. Strange as a dog cast and spells and being your best friend you know and Like there's a there's a I guess a when it when he the reveal to that in this in the story There's a twist to it that would be super fun as well if they included that in the character You know I would I would love to see a seance dog and then you could have some characters that are like Quirky weirdo picks that could be fun with it But anyway, that's that's what that's what's up with this right? It's it's Just another contender to the to the the Marvel throne is around and I wasn't super excited To get into this demo. I wasn't planning on jumping in initially, but I left with some unibrow raised going like okay Okay, you're cooking something you're cooking something But yeah, I also do think too that If you have a game where you aren't you know, you're looking at a very similar looking roster You got to go extra hard in making all of their animations and all of the way they move and everything they do Really unique you got a double and triple down on that aspect, you know But that's it one F No, okay. Well sure also rage quitting. Yeah I mean, I collected at least two or three It's it's quite it's quite fun to just pop on and be like, okay Some folks are here that you know, this is not their genre and they're here to play their characters and no No, it's their genre. You're just playing like a bitch You're you're the only way to play the game with other people besides training mode is to go into ranked online You can't they can't engage in any other way So everyone is forced into the situation and motherfuckers are just getting salt as you know what super bad That's smart. Actually, I just realized They may they skipped out on the animation in the fighting game to make it more Accurate to them skipping out on the animation in the show The animation is bad in the show. It's an homage to those moments, right? Yeah, I didn't piece that together Yeah, you don't even have to be sweaty to get a rage quit online If you grab that's awesome kind of if you just grab a character and do like fucking light medium heavy launch light medium heavy super a Bunch of times and then they die You'll watch your fucking game freeze up and then you'll get spit back out to the lobby or whatever like People are out here just like and and it's just yeah, it's funny because when you rage quit in a beta It's like it's just it's extra bitch for sure because it's the consequences are not even lasting in any remote way She's a 20 you get to be in the credits. Oh Oh Right and that yeah, that's where diafod was fucking Raging hard because it's like this at this dude. And that's number one is just raging rage quitting on everybody That's gonna be there's nothing. There's no fix to this You can just make the game punish the quitter harder You can make fun of them you can make their head explode put them in rage quit jail, etc It but it doesn't in terms of like oh, what can we do to you can't people hate losing it feels bad And they're just going to you know, they're just gonna do it every time because if you did this in a so if you did this at a You know pool hall or a soccer field you would be socially ostracized till the end of your days Yeah, you know like you would that no one would ever ever forget you remember that time You threw a tantrum like a baby and fucking threw the ball down the fucking lane and ran away. Yeah. Yeah There's just there's no accounting for it and I've heard people talking about they're looking yearning for the days of your on You know Call of Duty and such where you'd be like I loved getting on and getting toxic on Mike That was how I got the stress out after I got home from work in school every day You know it was like this was this is what games are to me. They are a means to be toxic What that level of toxicity? With those old Call of Duty games I played those games during the height of their their peak Toxicity and the one of the things that they don't talk about is that rage quitting is a problem in those games, too In everything I'm sure yes. Hey, it's six on six. Did you guys win the first engagement? Cool. Did you lose the very first class three people left? Okay? Enjoy running out the clock getting stomped out I can remember tons of overwatch matches where that x that last slot on our team The game was looking to find somebody to fill it because we did one engagement and lost it and the person just left and You know, they're like, oh, we're looking for a replacement, but Good luck. My favorite You my favorite thing is about about this kind of thing. Hey, I'd like to quick match I'd like to quit match. Okay. I've been loaded in I'm loading into six minutes to go and I'm Left Yeah, yeah, I'm not picking this shit up off the fucking dirt. Fuck you fuck you for putting me into this bullshit Also enjoy your the mark on your your fucking record as a result, too. I will say like for Marvel rivals like super awesome that For anyone who disconnects unintentionally you literally fucking turn your computer back on and Load the game back up and it's like you're cool. You can rejoin You can rejoin ranked matches that are still underway if you accidentally disconnect from them Yeah, any unintentionally I've had power go out and just get right back in that's awesome Love that part, but this reminds me that in a race quit in 14 You know, you'll queue up to do like a dungeon or something and there's an option in there that says do you want to fill? Right. Do you want to match make for people who have dropped and? matchmaking for fill is a Devil's gamble because you can like walk you can you can fill in and people are at the end The end of whatever they're about to do and somebody just disconnected and you walk in and you spend four minutes And you get all the rewards that you would do for 60 minutes or you'll fill in and it is 70 minutes into a 10 minute thing and You're like oh this is actually unwinnable this like these guys just can't Do it and then you're like well, I'm gonna just leave and I'm gonna take my fucking 30 minute penalty I don't give a shit good luck on the next guy to fill for you And now and now you're talking about the ethical reason to rage quit as opposed to There's the moment So of standard dungeon in FF 14 gives you 90 minutes to complete they take 16 Okay, that's a pretty big fucking gap Sometimes you'll fill in and 70 minutes will have elapsed and you'll go oh you'll do the poll you know Oh, this is just not gonna fucking happen. All right. What's your step vote abandon? So everyone you know everyone does the vote and then you all leave right and then the guy who is always the problem Always invariably the guy who's the worst or who won't listen goes nah, man. We can do it. I ain't leaving Right Yeah, yeah, um I You know, I wasn't actually gonna linger this long on this game to begin with I was gonna just mention it a couple things and move on But if we're on it and London going here then The only other thing I have to say is like when it comes to rage quitting Because it's such an inherent thing with just the nature of online gaming with people you will never solve this problem so all you can do is Design for do all the punishments for the person who does it and just design your game that it can withstand someone being a huge baby pooping their diaper and then making the game go okay, someone through a tantrum and was a huge baby and they pooped their diaper so you win and It's okay. We don't shut the game down and go. We don't know what happened. It's over. No, no somebody quit We detected that we know what happened. Okay, it's cool you won. They lost whatever right? Just allow the game to elegantly handle that thing because I think I think it's a mortal combat that like their head explodes as soon as they rage explode, right so if you did that it wouldn't be as Annoying because it wouldn't be like that low tier god style you ain't getting my fucking points You know, it wouldn't be this thing of like you actually nullified the whole game We played and now like you you won by being a huge baby, right? You would at least make it that the person who did that takes their penalty in if their ego What is whatever then let them let them do what they need to do But the person who who was on the other end the game should be robust enough to handle this type of thing now That's the only thing you can do It feels really silly that We're in a situation where that's still being addressed and I know a big part of it is games with like high response time Like, you know, you can't you want to have direct character player to player connections and everything with the rollbacks it etc It makes it harder to have a server side verification of what exactly happened But we know that it is possible So just in any game in any genre if someone rage quits or disconnects Allow the person who's playing to not have their whole experience nullified as a result and I'm fine with it, you know You know a game I never encountered a rage quitter in once hmm was the first version of strive and In my heart of hearts the reason why that is is because it took so long to get back into matchmaking. Oh my god Wow, okay, I thought it could take like ten minutes to get back in Right, okay, so you'd be like you alt f4 out and then you got to sit there for you stare at that fucking strive Yeah checking your R code Or how about chess because you just forfeit the match in handshake, right? Like that's what that is anyway, I Took a bit of time yesterday to check out some demos that I've been curious about One of which was called bridge born. Have you heard of bridge born? bridge born Here, oh So bo urn here is take a look. Oh bridge a bridge born ultimatum got it It's an arpg and I I know e okay. Oh my god You take a look here at this game and you will see You know some a party running around you'll see a life bar on one side At the of your bottom hud that's a liquid filling up red This is a Diablo and then you see the liquid of your a mana on the other side in blue Exactly your hot bar in the middle hot bar in the middle, right? It is it is quite diabbling and and That's all cool. What might not be so obvious is when you look at the way the camera moves And when you look at every time it zooms in and zooms out, right as you check out the trailer or so Nothing you're seeing is 3d at all. These are all sprites and this whole game is 2d using parallax effect Everything you see is parallax sprite Scrolling yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, that is incredible I have never seen a game with such mastery of parallax scrolling As this like it has dynamic lighting in certain moments when you see you're running through caves and stuff But like okay, I'm watching them run away from the camera in 2d with just using parallax This is very impressive. It's incredibly impressive There are moments where you are in like a like a like the Grand Canyon almost and like you're seeing lifted up, you know Walls and and and then you zoom all the way out from that You can play the game at like map view and you can go all the way into your character filling up like the full screen To all the way out to looking at the planet Basically like the fullest map ever and it's all just like a seamless scroll because there's no models. There's no 3d Nothing being loaded in it's all just sprites Yeah, I I've never seen anything look like this or do this effect. It's it's absolutely staggering with how it's doing this visually Gameplay wise as a Diablo clone. I I mean is I've never played Diablo, but I could just go off of What I got you never touched it, huh? Never touched it. That's crazy Yeah, I wasn't allowed to me. I you're using one two three four left mouse button the right mouse button. Yeah, it wasn't allowed to Some of those games are really good. I know I have I have queued up the possibility in the future of taking a closer look at them But for now Phone call when you do that This one is it has the Your full bar you got all your different abilities, you know, here's your shield sword. Here's your dash and such but There was another aspect to it where I guess the sauce quote-unquote would come into play is you get your spells and You pick up a whole bunch of this is there's things that are very Baldur's gate about it, right? So you get your spells you get your party member and oh, there's the parallax on the Grand Canyon. Wow Yeah Yeah, go go look up go look up Bridge born on steam if you're listening to this and take a look at that trailer You get a you get a party member your party of different characters and one anytime the fight's happening You press down on your d-pad and then time stops and you are now in tactical mode So you are switching to each character and you can queue up what their next move should be So now I'm doing the Baldur's gate style fight of you do this you throw this over here You go this way and do that and and then resume and now from it went from the full Diablo thing to Now not like kind of like simultaneous turn based. Oh, it's not with pause real time with pause is possible while you're fighting Yeah, real time with pause is a very unpopular control method interesting. Okay. It's you can do it here Like real time with pause it is Remarkably unpopular that's far as RPGs go pillars of eternity does that so Baldur's get one and two do it Plainscape torment does it ice when Dale one and two does it Pillars one and two do it. Okay. Now the pause is optional. You never have to ever pause But you realistically in those games you must pause because there's too many things going on Yes, and and so a good example is the second person who joins your party is a like Basically like a perfumer. Oh, well the cotor is real time with pause. Oh, yeah. Yeah perfectly. Yeah, true true Cotor never feels like it though because none of your button presses directly correlate to an action Right like yeah, that's the thing that the difference between Selecting your action from a list cues up into the the the the the background list of actions exactly whereas in this There is a slash your sword button. Yeah, there is a hold to block button and It's really interesting because usually if you have real time with pause and you want a different control method People go to turn based so like the Pathfinder games are real time with pause But if you're finding something that's like oh man, this is for real you hit a button and you turn it turn based Mmm, I can tell that this game is made by somebody who is like Loves all of the above and wants this game to have a little bit of everything and then some right so you have Those moments where you're fighting and then you can yeah you hit down you go you pause the you pause time and time is not stopped completely It's doing the ff7 remake thing where things are moving slow Like real slow and you can queue up But you don't have forever because that monster is gonna fuck your shit up in you know in a second and So you queue up you do your spells and in another big part of what's happening So your second party member that joins is like a perfumer so they have Poison gases that they can throw they have like exploding shrapnel and they have like reagents that react to things that you combine with and Now you have them throw a reagent down and then you through cast fireball And then your fireball reacts with that and now you're fucking detonating and you're doing double-tex Constantly and stuff like that right the game has a system in place where pretty much every element or like a type of Every element or type of status Interacts with every other element or type of status to create some unique effects so Lightning plus fire creates a massive explosion, right? That sounds like a very divinity original sin kind of system Okay, yeah, you throw the reagent down, but then you throw poison on it and now it's a healing gas for you and your crowd and your crew You get all these little like you know things where you're now you're using the synergy with your team and what they're casting to work with What you're casting or if an enemy casts something at you like lightnings coming at you and you fireball it you Detonate it midway through and if you counter it early enough on the area of effect of that explosion is a pretty effective counterattack Right, so you can counter casting with this particular spells to like have optimal Shutdowns, you know Okay, so it has that going on you can then just press left or right on the d-pad to just fully take control of anyone on the party as well But of course your character has way more shit going on and When you go to like level up you you you know you kill every basically you cast spells and they use mana and When you run out of mana you can still cast spells but Fucking what were they called like? Death not like death eaters basically appear and come after you right? and the more you overcast the more appear reapers and You can basically desperately use your last bit of mana to get one cast out But you risk stronger and stronger reapers coming after you and you can fight them off as Ads in whatever the so if you're fighting a big boss and you have to cast a big spell Or you have to dash or get away or do something to teleport out of danger You can get more ads coming on the screen by overcasting and if you have confidence in your ability to fight them off Spend over spend your mana and make the fight harder and just fight them off and go right so You're basically there's a proposition you're kind of facing of Making the fight temporarily harder or you can run from them eventually build your mana back up and they'll go away You know, but it's an interesting sort of system of like, you know It seems as if by going further and further into like Overcast I think stronger and stronger reapers begin to appear to you, right? So yeah, it's like I like that just hitting zero is not just zero You have a you have an awareness that you need to keep in mind and sometimes mashing Results and accidentally summoning reapers when you didn't want to and you're like, oh fuck that true. Don't do it That was interesting then you get the The leveling system where you build up levels as you you know, you kill things and whatever attacking things rebuilds your mana in general and you then go to like a You know essentially like a bonfire essentially a tablet and you you sacrifice extra mythical or magical items you've picked up to Convert those into particular types of stat increases that juice your levels To cash out Yeah, every every single one of that action RPG like Diablo style genre has some kind of labyrinth in Like cash in to become stronger But is it a system, but is it normal that you go from level five to level zero by Choosing to increase these stats No Because you literally drop levels back down to zero if you want to by spending your experience To give yourself more damage here extra crit You want eleven percent chance of getting a lightning after effect on every swing. Okay, it'll cost ten levels to do that That's kind of like a prestige and you drop back down to zero and And start again, but now you have those stat increases That's weird very right isn't that it's on like I'm putting this all out here because I'm like I don't know how typical this is But this not typical this stuff is really unique. It is interesting, you know Um, and I yeah, I basically found that like I died to a boss that you know ate my levels because there's a corpse run And I was kind of thinking like well fuck it I might as well just level up and go back to zero with better base stats if I'm gonna just risk it all on this corpse run anyway You know So you have an idea and then of course Getting back from the the path from zero to one is always much shorter than the path from five to ten or five to six, right? so you kind of have this like What type of stats matter to you to sacrifice your level progression in order to get this buff, you know I thought that was something else unique about it and then lastly Oh, also, it's got four player co-op so anyone yeah people can jump in and take control Oh, that's mandatory to have four player co-op or higher. It's absolutely required Is that divinity that's that was doing that or pillars? I forget so again divinity is a Term-based RPG. I'm talking we're talking action RPGs of your Diablo like yeah, no, that's if you put Diablo grim dawn path of exile the Titans Whatever Mandatory you must be able to play with other people it is it is absolutely required It it seems like the type of thing that like you can really benefit especially from like hey put a put a reagent down I'll blow it up, you know or cast something with wind and I'll do my my earth attack and then like they'll they'll fuse together And create the after effective. It's not just that it's just that the Like it's a it's a grindy genre and It's very much it's it's It's like the reverse of a podcast it's a podcast game Right, they're all podcast games where it's not requiring enough of your brain in any given moment that you can't just chit chat and have a Hold a conversation gotcha. Okay, so they Kind of if they didn't have co-op they would all die Well, I mean this seems like I mean it's kind of goofy and light-hearted in its its world and tone But I can't see these types of games being like if this if this plot is compelling enough and the world is interesting Then you could just have a narrative that drives you forward certainly But it feels like again here. I I I really feel like I'm at the end of a Series of fans that have of these genres that have pumped a ton of systems and subsystems into the thing Because the last thing I saw that was like holy shit is a literal custom spell Shrine and you go into it and you go okay Take your base ingredient fireball add a detonation effect The the grenade from earlier right shrapnel Every time you cast this fireball shrapnel will explode inside of the fire as well. Okay, cool Slide how often you want it to cast from every point one seconds per second cast per second To one cast per second or more it's gonna cost you more Resources to create a spell that can auto cast and much faster much crazier and you can choose the ratifier essentially for this spell, okay now Choose the thing you want to happen Once the detonation is complete you can create a third after effect such as a an earth spire shoots out of the ground and You can then choose when it shoots out of the ground It's gonna obviously combine with the fire and whatever the previous thing I said was that would occur when earth met with fire like let's say a Ground lava storm right shoots out in in directions. Yeah, it has like noita slash like Magica stuff there's a lot of influences here pick from the drop-down list Where you want that effective lava to travel to do you want to go to the nearest enemy to go in a full circle? To all to go in the direction that you were shooting the projectile from to come back to you literally choose the direction that you want that after effect to then Cut travel back to right and that level of insane customization and sauce is so that you can Allow it to further detonate and combine with other things that your party might be doing so for example There's a teleport dash that lets you get from one blip to another point and it's like that's really useful It gets over gaps etc But if you choose to use this like running dash instead You can spread the smoke or the poison or the reagent to spread the effect over all the spells I just described so that they start recasting on each other And if you ignite it all it all comes together in one big insane cacophony and a fucking nuke goes off and It's really expensive to do the kind of spell that I just described But you can put together Everything in your inventory and it creates one final item that you can put on that quick bar and go It's gonna cost your whole fucking mana bar to use this But you can cast it materials and your materials, but you get one cast here you go use it Oh, by the way, you can cast it again, but a fucked ton of reapers are about to appear on your ass That's super cool. That's a really unique system. I don't know. I've seen it Like I don't know anything about these right, but I don't know. That's that's that's um There's a lot of bits and bobs and complicated systems from other genres being jammed into Like your standard action RPG like loot game. Okay, you're describing something that is significantly more complicated Than most of the games in the genre. Yeah, and I can see that like there's even like I'm so the basic level of this was Earth pops out of the ground like earth bending water bending fire bending etc at that type of thing just that your usual casts but then there was stuff where it's like put down a I forgot what the word was but it was like a a like a proxy or something and it's essentially like a a fucking Pylon from the Protoss and It would zap a bit a beam of energy between it and another one of itself and you combine that with the elements to then You know create a I imagine they're like a fire line or like do whatever you want that to disrupt the effects that I was previously describing Or you could put a thing downwards like it creates a line on the ground and if any enemies cross it you teleport to it and automatically do a big slash on them and And I'm sure again you can combine this with every element with every direction and every other option I just described I just lost Warping fucking slash Electricity shoots out in all directions and I have I tell that electricity to bounce back towards me you know and and What are you whatever whatever customize your spell sit there and figure it out? You know, it's really cool You're frozen I didn't realize God damn it. Oh my god. All right BRB let's see what's going on here Hi How you doing? Nice to see you. Thanks for sticking around Well You're seeing me and you're seeing me alone. So uh-oh What does that mean? Yeah unfortunately, it looks like major internet issues are happening on the other side of the country and Yeah, routers dead. So we just got a wrap it up for now, unfortunately and have a pre mature end to the podcast so we will of course, you know I don't know what's going on hopefully things work out well and I'm Just you know, we'll stand by to hear what else is good. It's gonna happening with with Pat and the schedule for the rest of the week That's a doozy. That's a bummer. Sorry about the technical difficulties everybody In the meantime, I'll just be ending it here and this will just have to be the awkward Fucking preemptive end to the cast so Yeah obviously stay tuned to you know Pat stairs at for the updates on When or what's gonna be happening with the stream and the schedule over there? and To Willie versus for what I've got coming up this week on the schedule likely gonna just continue with more Phoenix rights and Legacy of Kane so catch me over on Willie versus on Twitch and on YouTube everybody Yes, we have some sponsors and I am going to Goddamn that is That is that is some issues. I have there are this podcast is Sponsored by some sponsors Who you need to hear about? 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They record for 59 minutes y'all We spoil you just so you know just so you know we spoil you god damn it All right That's it take care Where was I Yes talking about bridge born so Bridge born in conclusion pretty fucking cool Bridge born is a land of extremes the name is Unfortunately a little bit of the slot machine going on with the with the title However mechanically That was insane parallax scrolling sprite Majesty that I've never seen in a game before Real time with pause awesome love that ability Switch between your team at any time co-op and that spell synergy shit was nuts And also choosing to level down In order to increase your stats. These are all really awesome unique things that come together for a really great first impression of a game So yeah bridge born is cool All right, well let me tell you some bullshit I Fucking my fucking router just fucking died wouldn't even power on So I had to pack that shit up and fucking grab a cab and haul my ass to the local fucking Roger saying And they're like maybe I don't know gee was your photo ID we need to make sure it's yours So then I come back here and I had to fight a fucking application to fucking install it I plug the internet in the fucking router just turn on So remember how the show started with me describing that the leaving a camera in place and never touching it or doing anything to it Still results in occasional flickering because fuck yourself Yes, which is not doing any more by the way. Oh good. I fixed it wonderful. Well, did you even fix it? Or did it just stop I actually fucked around to do stuff and try to fix it But hey Technology right you stare at it and it breaks sometimes and Well, this is that wasn't even an old router that all routers only like seven months old Mm-hmm. I remember the last time it exploded Yeah, that was the network Okay, which I had no control over yeah, huh? So at the very least this time I was able to go. Oh, it's a dead piece of fucking equipment I'll go get a new piece of equipment now I got a mail the other piece of equipment. Mm-hmm. Is it a hybrid router modem? Yeah, it's everything. It's one of those all-in ones Yeah, okay, so that that sucks because you decide to do Wi-Fi password and I'm like, I don't want to decide a new fucking Wi-Fi password Man, I got I like I know my old Wi-Fi password Yeah, I also I rather the the the splitting be separated as a function from the like raw internet because then you can just be like Okay, cool. There's a problem with this relay or whatever the case is this port some bullshit But I know that the the plug in from outside the house is fine putting them together Anyway, here we go easy because the thing wouldn't fucking power on oh The lights no lights at all. Yeah, it was like it was like it just died and the light was on I'm like I'll give it five minutes so I unplug it and I you wait plug it back in no light So my oh this thing is fucking Absolutely kaput. Yeah, okay. This is not a technical failure. This thing is for the heavens Well, that's actually easier to understand then you know well Yeah, cuz I knew what the problem was right, but I was terrified. I was terrified that what I was gonna deal with Was go down to the shop. Hey, can I get a replacement or router? well You have to call Then we have to ship it to you. Yeah, I'm that can be five to twelve days I'm a huge fan of like calling the the support for your fucking service And you're talking to the tech support person where you know more steps ahead than they do always fun You know and you're like no no keep up I already did steps one through four and we you know yet held the reset button did the whole thing see that third light Okay, it's blinking. I know exactly. What do you get? It's you guys. It's you guys What is the number say give me the service number give me the fucking service number? Let's go I Was calling customer support so often and there were so many guys coming out to my house The one the internet troubles started like really about your cameras doing a thing again Back in October through October November December January for like for like a good six month period That like one of the guys gave me his fucking cell phone. No, oh my god. Oh Okay That's a no usually wow and I would call him up a week once a week and go how's it going? He's like we've tracked the issue five blocks this way and I think we're I think we're we're coming in And like you remember my internet used to be like super spotty like six months ago So what it was is there was one node with a fuse or something out? Inside one of those mega, you know, though, you know those telephone poles that have like 400 boxes attached to them There was like one fuse in there That was off, but it wasn't listed as it wasn't reading as off in the in the fucking, you know diagnostic So every 30 minutes it would cause everyone in my neighborhood to go down Like on my street and so they had to like they had to like go to the box near my house Wait 30 minutes Check each box every 30 minutes ago. Did it go did it blip on this one to the book and then they traced it? out of my neighborhood To find the junction and then they had to have like 10 guys just stand by a big pole and go okay monitor these ones Did it go off? No monitor these ones did it go and eventually they found all yours something like a button thinking about the internet in terms of Machines instead of in terms of programming or digitization is scary The add the analog shit the analog part of the internet. Yeah, where it's it's it's fuses and semiconductors I'm just fail a random I don't miss the era when we were rapidly speeding up from dial-up into DSL into cable into fiber and every time a new type of service or a new version of it came out and you're getting like pulled around by all these providers and kind of being Upsold on whether it's videotron or Bella or all these fucking companies and There was always a like promised with a speed and some sort of new thing that was a carrot But there was new problems you never knew existed that we're going to come with this upgrade right go I say something controversial mm-hmm. There was one upside to 56k modems from the 28.8 No, just general like dial-ups okay, and that was we had like a hundred years of expertise on telephone line infrastructure To solve the problems sure sure hey is there a problem with my phone line? Don't worry a guy will be out there in 20 minutes and replace the whole phone line and you'll be good to go Also, you have a landline because who the fuck doesn't so it's all good I don't know even one person with the landline nowadays. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah But I like our first our first dial-up was 14 14.4, you know like we Or whatever the case was at the time It was just like each time you'd be like hey, we got the new one. It's faster, etc But here comes brand new shit brand new problems including like oh, it's faster. You switch over to cable here It's faster Except during peak times when everyone in the neighborhood is also on it in which case My internet the most during peak times Why should it matter when other people are oh because everyone is sharing the same pipe okay cool Yeah, I got one for you. 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We have not yet seen anything wrong with this this No problems as a result of that oh Man Yeah, I even so I even just recently Redid like a bunch of my cable setup in here simply because like the cables I was using were still like Cat 5 and not like 6 or 7 or whatever like there was a point where I just like you know what let's just get the better cable Because these were the old ones I've been holding on to forever because I knew I had this one trustee fucking 60 footer whatever cable I would drag out to lands Whatever I needed it, but that shit's like 15 or however billion years old at this point anyway We I got stressed out so I made myself an oversized cup of coffee Uh-huh That's not that no matter how much coffee you put into this jug because it's one jug. This is technically one cup of coffee This is one cup of coffee, it's just a big cup is that Irish coffee is not just coffee Not as coffee. It's just coffee. Yeah, okay. All right. Well Excuse me, um, we that's how that works man. Mm-hmm. You one one a container even one container a coffee I was going to bring up another thing just after Bridgeborn I decided to take out to check out the demo for the eternal life of Goldsman That is the best animated thing. I have ever seen in my life point blank period not game not interactive medium Yeah, no once upon a time I remember like it used to be like yo Fantasia have you ever seen it? It's fucking insane Disney went hard and went nuts and the level of mastery over just the water It's just so impressive because they went nuts on it and it was like what fucking 38 or some yeah Life was black and white when they did that, you know, it was it was batshit um and then there's all these other little things that go really hard over the years of class classical animation and In fact, like we've dialed it back We've gotten simpler with animation because we were going way too hard back then so they're seeing the levels here in goldman that Really are like I kind of freaked out watching that intro Seeing how hard it went because you're like, okay, the animators are flexing They don't have to flex this hard But now after a few minutes of playing what is the simplest gameplay in the world? It is fucking duck tails. It's crazy how you know inside where you go hard on animation You can go full cup head where you're like this is for freaks This is for people who want to fucking feel the skin of their teeth like on every single run And then there's this which is just yeah, it's platforming man fucking I assume it's gonna ramp up Up for sure for sure, but at the very minimum it's the most basic platforming with the most insane level of detail and It gets to the point where I'm like, this is so Insanely gorgeous that I am now concerned For the health of the animators and I am concerned that their effort is at detriment of other things in their life You know what I mean? You ever see I know I know but you sometimes you see something where you're just like This is so insanely lovingly done That it makes me wonder if it's done because the person doing it Is like I have to do it like this You go to a nice restaurant and you have a meal so good that you're like the cook must be a drug addict They're they're the home life sucks have to be on cocaine They're neglecting they're neglecting a wife and child in some way shape or form to Now that's their decision to master this fucking meal Sometimes you got to make a good video game and the wife and child just got to look at you through the window Say come on. Please come inside. Don't fight that bull. I'm sorry. I got I watched the karate master to knock down blow trailer a few days ago Oh, I always think of your description As the game you play when your wife is crying to come home and not have to fight the car or the bull or whatever Knocked down blow. I mean it really does look like You yeah, there's things in your life that you have chosen to ignore In order to perfect your animation skill to this level and show everybody They could have just taken a while and be very talented um What an insane detailed blood like every aspect of it everywhere you could have taken a shortcut You went no no object on this menu is simply going to just exist Everything must be hand animated hand rotated everything that could be a 3d object spinning is hand drawn to To spin a cane to show you different parts of a cane, you know Um every transition when you go from one island to another there's a tree just like the quality It's like all the little pieces that would never ever ever ever ever be animated in anything else because who cares Animated because I I I don't fucking care and shut up woman get that kid away from me. I have to draw You know there's a there's a thing there's a tree that like is like upright And in like in any other video game It has to fall into the water and you're like how many times have I seen something Get hit in a way where it goes like this it just rotates And falls into the water or it gets hit like this and drops off screen or it just flashes Until it's gone But in this case the tree has to kind of spin and fall towards you And show you new angles of the tree that you did not see before with frames that did not exist before Specifically because you have to understand every aspect of the tree from the back front inside Because fuck you. I don't care shut up. Leave me alone. I need to get this frame right Stop that baby from crying. I is look I this is a dark narrative. It's about to work There's a dark narrative to go down here But it's so fucking pretty see it's funny that you mentioned that because goldman had like I played the demo right up until I got a taste Of the in yes dark narrative. Yes. Yes. Yes. I got just the tiniest taste and was like, okay There's something. Mm-hmm. So I went I went real than usual because there's always like oh here's the behind the the Fiction there's the behind the the curtain kind of wizard of Oz kind of thing But like the the discussion being had about a mother telling her child to shut up and stop talking about that time I called you an accident. Oh Like much much more intense than I was expecting and the mother is cast as a like mean mom voice It's not like a nurturing something. It's a it's a tired Aggressive mean mom and you're like, I don't know if you're just mean or exasperated from taking care of a sick child Right. I don't know and I can't say enough to fill in the blanks on it But right now you sound like you're being very mean to your kid who's sick And on top of that every time the the world of the lore it goes more in depth and goes Here's a berry that's attached to another berry that has a lore to why it exists And here's a type of game that and it's zooming in and zooming in and it's like My brain doesn't want you to zoom in it wants you to zoom out Like you're talking about this the island and the lucky ones and the person who went missing and you know The relationships between the characters on the island and I'm like, uh, no, no What's what the fuck is going on with this narrative outside the animus, you know and um There's even a one point where you meet the frenchman where like it Literally interrupts and goes like oh my god enough with the talking Like what was what happened next? Let's get let's get to the next exciting part, you know And it's almost like yeah kid like actually what is let's find out more about you and this top layer of the game Because the more you zoom in the more I want to zoom out I I know this is a segue but You mentioned the animus and all I can think of is hey Remember when we were building up this meta narrative and building it and building it and building it and building it And then just quit just quit it just quit And then and then we're like shit There's nothing tying this shit to uh And they started it the fuck back up all half-assed. What an unbelievable fucking fumble. Well, this is what happens Unbelievable fucking fumble. Well, it turns out when you have 1,400 cooks in the kitchen and About half of them hate everything to do with desmond And a lot of them are listening to the players that also hate everything to do with that aspect of the game And just want to focus on the past and the others are like no, this is the most important part of the game We need to lean into it You end up with whatever the fuck happened with with uh that ending in three I was an animus true believer by the way I was too the the fucking the modern hook and the fucking oh, we're gonna build it to a game in the modern day The truth that was the explicit promise the truth dot avi At the end of assassins creed one got me 100 got me it you're building up this little glitch of like two seconds of footage two seconds of footage here and there You're hearing about the apple of eden and the fucking pieces of eden and under the weird shit and you're like what what what? What are we doing right back and forth that matter? I liked four Which is after they botched it the first game back after they fucked it up They took a weird angle where you go test assassins creed you go test it you be soft. Yeah. Yeah in the lab But they're evil. Mm-hmm, which is no different from the real world. I I I just I remember that hit of Seeing like the two characters escaping Carling around whatever and then they go adam eve and you're like You know, what is this law? And it's it seems so much more interesting and then you fucking abandon all that I even had there's a moment in that dog shit that they went with with three where You know the fake ending where they go? This is what could have been If you just if you did that has been decided to lead to to um leave a message for the world, right? There's a moment in this that that whole cutscene where I thought it was interesting where they went It doesn't matter no matter how much you understand the past If you try to write a bible for the future right now If you tried to write a message to the people of the future You can't say anything that would not get twisted into evil in the future No matter what you said you could try to word it however you want to you can put as many stipulations as you can You will never Defeat human evil and you will never defeat the inter greed that will warp this into someone's machinations and authoritarianism in the future and I thought that because we fist fought the pope a couple weeks ago The porches You know uh and and all that and you know even the little like I'm like it wasn't anywhere near the level of it But like the the whatever talking past etio your whole life was to just have this weird alien Talk to someone else who's not you you know, you're like they're okay. Okay. Sure. You're setting that all up and um I never played anything after that fourth. So I'm just like I don't even know What they did with that testing the animus thing at all like you know what man? They absolute the the writing was on the wall that they didn't believe in their own story when assassins creed brotherhood came out for etio because the big reveal of two Is your whole life is a trick so I can Fucking teleconference with someone in the someone else. Yeah. Yeah, and like oh Yeah But also you did tons more you did two more games of you did a bunch of shit after that because the player loves you etio You super you're cool. Everyone thinks you're the best I have to imagine that at some point the game plan was that a game like watchdogs For example was actually going to be this is just bullshit. It's I know it's not but I imagine at some point They were like we're gonna make a game. That's this that's modern day assassins creed all in real uh real Modern day mechanics, right? And you got a hint of it because there was a desmond sneaking around Taking out the guards in the in the modern italian villa for two seconds at the end of the game, right? So you know that they wanted to build up to that But the more they did that the more people were like we could not want to get further away from modern day You know, I don't think I ever told you this But I always had my vision for where assassin screed was going to go which was The games in the past and then three or four or whatever would be the the modern game Right And then at the end of the modern game We lack from the year 2800 stops their desmond simulation And you do your future assassin screed game in fucking space or We warp or we go back we go back to persia And we jump into the prince I mean, yeah, I think that like Like in an alternate dimension They would have instead of being cowards They would have gone straight to japan right Back on like five right away. France. No japan. They would have went straight to japan um, and then maybe even the russia one And then you go to your Your because the mod running on the on the fucking kremlin Is is such a cool idea and it only worked in that comic book um, and then What I'm gonna make a call for emails I usually don't do this over a castle super beast male gmail.com because I legitimately can't think we've talked about that one for years and years Right. There was the comic books and the little baby spin-off games That were like russia japan and india. I think it was I can't think Oh and china china china china china I can't think of any game series That decided to say hey, you know the coolest thing that could ever happen We're gonna put it into a book to make sure it never happens ever in the real thing god That one's the worst ac russia being relegated entirely to a comic book series is shocking Yeah, uh, no like like let's Workshop, I mean, okay. We're off of we sort of goldsman was incredible. We're serving segments here. I don't have any I don't have much to say it's I'm crap. I can't wait for that to come out alternate reality timeline assassins creed one um, altair assassins creed two etio, right? uh assassins creed three etios come We did this This was done. We go we go right past corner rat on a gate on to Uh black flag, right? So assassins creed three you go straight to black flag. Um, then four you go to japan Five you go to russia, but now we're going future heavy on the The outside the anime stuff, right? And then you and then the next one full modern wraps up the story Call it a day Yeah, I I think the single best writing that was ever in assassin screed ever I think it's a it's in It's in the british one Was a a a file you can find Of animus engineers arguing with each other about implementing cars into the animus And describing how Driving a car is so automatic for most people. They don't actually form memories of it So every time they try and put it in the animus the thing just completely freaks out their cognition shuts down. Yeah It's like oh, that's why assassin screed games don't have fucking cars Not just because it would suck, but the in universe robot can't do it even though horses completely Served that purpose for people. Yeah, um Yeah, no the the the you have that russian one Yes, you have that russian one take place while jumping back to world war two if you want to even right Do the things that people get excited everything that people would have an excited thought about Going what periods of history would be interesting to jump into and play as and be mechanically fun While sorting into the modern day thing give people exactly what they're thinking of and deliver on that Uh, and and you know, if you need to you have a franchise that you can then do other things with if you if or whatever the case is But that's where you don't have to do this reboot now where we start trying to salvage the series again Is that the series I was the biggest fan of that I now hate That you're all in on no, there's there's a different one It's the destiny, but assassin's creed is close It was it's close Yeah, I The highest high to the lowest low and then ultimately not paying attention It doesn't help that if you stop apathy is the is the cruelest End point, but every time you look away from it like two more come out right? That was the thing at the time was you're not paying attention and then like a handheld one and a console release and a half just dropped on you Uh, so I I know you came you came back and checked out the um, egypt and greece and so on but like and I just You know they were solid, but they weren't solid enough It was always just the the the fucking I was so in and you dropped the ball so hard and made it so uninteresting and like I I loved ac4 so bad I gave myself frozen shoulder From just going to going too hard in yeah, I just went too hard on it You invent I didn't know that I needed fucking sailing in my life. You know you I I grew to enjoy even the boring parts of Wind waker and such but like this little section of three where you controlled the boat for two seconds Was such a fucking pop off. Let me let me tell you something Let me tell you something when I was a child and my dad would take me fishing. I was like man This is boring There's nothing to do out here and now that i'm 40 The idea of going out on a boat and it's really boring. There's nothing to do out here. Man, that sounds Telling you man dredge times the boring stuff is the best part dredge hits different in the 2020s as opposed to how it would have hit in the in the aughts That game came out came out exactly what it needed to Uh anyway Uh the I I Figure I have continued playing some slay the spire and I think I answered some of the questions I was having last time about what builds work and what don't work Um that will change too because you're playing like the first variant, right? I am I haven't done like the the prestige runs and stuff yet, but I did beat the game with the necro binder and I did so realized like with a doom build and it seems like instead of trying to find Like it's again stopped you have to just lean into their best types of builds to to to get your best odds with the characters Like I I was like doom is one of one setup, but I wanted to find others and it was like no no Just run doom doom is the best with her. It'll make it all possible Uh and then I went back to the defect and was trying to Set things up and and I had a pretty solid setup with them Which is you have a card called uproar Which plays two damage and then grabs a random attack from your deck and uses that and then you just delete So here's okay Here's a case for teaching you how to delete cards because I know you said you were like struggling with understanding how I struggle with the right move and For certain for like for the defect for example when you go to a shop Deleting a card is the most important thing you can do So here's an exact case for why you'd want to The defect with the robot the robot with the little orbs and all that stuff There's a card you can pick up randomly in random common fights called uproar And what it does is it'll do two it'll do five damage twice And then grab a random attack from your deck no matter what the value is and play it for free So You see cards that you can buy or pick up that are going to be Five cost cards insane damage to all enemies gives you a ton of resources However, you need to somehow magically get more points than your turn even starts with Right. Okay. Cool. Don't bother. Just put these cards that are unplayable in your deck delete every one point attack from your deck And every time you play uproar it's going to grab either another uproar to do the same thing again Or one of these super cards that you can't otherwise play So thus deleting every basic attack and leaving yourself with only super attacks Makes the whole to the whole build work You know and then all of a sudden you're flying through the game like just crushing things and before you know it You're going uproar into uproar into uproar into nuke Fight over, you know, so like things like that are like a really good tutorial in fitting out your deck Um good shit. Also, there's a boss called queen. Holy shit. Fuck the queen. It's an act three boss that just is Insane because it like makes it so that you have you have an ad that gets stronger with every swing It buffs every turn it's got like a ton of hp and it makes it so that you can only use one Of your cards per the first three that comes out every hand. It's so fucking brutal No matter how good your deck got built out that thing is just a fucking menace to fight. I hate it Um, yeah, I read a redo of the collector essentially, right? Anyway, um, so yeah, slay the spire fun stuff, but Still still Finding my way around the ropes, but I kind of get it a little bit better now um this week i'm going to be playing Either more phoenix, right if reggie's feeling better or legacy of kane But if not, then i'll be doing some more one-offs and checking some stuff out that's uh, you know demos and or just single player stuff that I wanted to take a look at so keep your eyes peeled on the schedule um For what's going to be going on wednesday and thursday Uh as well actually no, sorry thursday's off. It's just going to be wednesday And then on saturday, I am doing a sponsored stream of prag meta Oh my goodness I've heard good things about that pragmatuh. It's quite cool so far All caps by the way, pragmatuh all caps all caps very important all caps do not use minor caps Oh, does that imply don't do it? I see are you going to be using all caps in the near future? absolutely On my sponsored stream of pragmatuh all caps on friday on friday. There you go Maybe there was a reason I fucking crashed out so hard I fucking routered died an hour ago. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm like no Yeah I asked him to kick it forward a day because I usually take fridays off, but There you go. Hey, uh, so the best thing about it is one I like capcom games You like capcom games the second best thing about it is their Money and the third best thing about it is it's reviewing extraordinarily well But also we play we both played the demo a bunch of times. It's actually it's written. It's got some juice quite good Very enjoyable. Um, I think I saw someone say like that it's the the biggest flaw They had with it because I think the review embargo is up Um, the biggest flaw they they had with it was that like the story plays it safe Yeah, sure, which is like, okay. I saw some people say that it's actually like a really like Uplifting positively oriented dad game, which all other dad games are not Dad games are overwhelmingly like okay sad revenge focused. Well to be fair Death stranding is uplifting but first it has to terrify the shit out of you before it gets uplifting I played that second one, okay To this I say six seven Okay, that's that's At least the first time around They had to scare the shit out of you and then it got uplifting. I think that death stranding one is a significantly better game than that death stranding two That being said, um, hey, what if the baby could hack And fight back. Oh, my baby can do that already Oh Okay, yeah, he's super good with his numbers Uh, are you my baby better than all babies? Okay. Is your baby doing bioshock pipe puzzles while mid mid third person action? No, that's that's too. That's too easy. Okay pragmatah coming up I don't know how to pronounce it correctly. I gotta be honest. I'm gonna say pragmatic pragmatah I'm saying pragmatah. Yeah, but then again moda, but practically. Yeah, but I've also been saying uh, reisel Reisiel riziel That's a biblical term So, you know, it's the tree of knowledge You should know that. Oh fucking What what am I? I'm gonna I'm a cabala up here Yes, yeah, yeah Sephirot with a t the um Yeah, I like it's like they they say it every cut scene. What the fuck and it's like, yeah a couple times there Not so this reminds me of it. I mentioned this just the other day Of a very specific annoyance. I had from a guy named Patrick Who used to be on the giant bomb cast his name was Patrick Clepid or rat. He's alive. His name is Patrick Clepid um, and he was talking about Tomb Raider and Every single time he talked about Tomb Raider for multiple weeks on the podcast because I think it was during the reboot series He called Lara Croft. Laura Croft. Laura Laura. Yeah, and was got like Like visit like audibly pissy about everyone correcting him and he's like whatever. It's like the same name No It's not it's it's those are both real names Also, your name is Patrick. There's a bunch of ways to fuck up the pronunciation of the name Patrick Patrick is that you Patrick? No, it sounds more normal to me because my brother growing up always said Laura Croft Whenever we talked about your brother's a dick. He always did that's what it was We played pc games and dc would say Laura and I was like, I guess that's what it is Your brother doesn't know how to spell and then now I'll like shame on him. All I hear is the reboot ladder You know, but uh, yeah, um Is what was it? Razzelle Razziel Razziel Razziel Razziel Razziel They do say it like every cutscene but and there aren't as many cutscenes as you remember There should have been everybody thinks that this is a huge intensive story game It's not you're pushing blocks for four hours And then there's like two seconds of 30 second cutscenes for you know, it's a bummer because like the the the direction of the voice acting is just so So good, but yeah, no, there's only like 40 minutes total there's there's not people remember a lot more story than there actually was It came from the era of the back of your working designs JRPG box said Almost an hour of anime cutscenes on the back I mean, I realized that like in the idos era There this I think I'm repeating myself But like swimming through fucking water tubes and pushing blocks equals gameplay. That is what a video game is You weren't there was no part of you Exploratin Yeah, that's dungeon. That's explain you're doing indiana jones things Whatever indiana jones does. That's what a video game ought to be This is the definition of an adventure and who are you to complain otherwise Until now where you're just like bitch, you're gonna have me push a block One square at a time from the third room back to the first room and then rotate it because it was the wrong orientation by dragging it back to the second Yeah, dude, and this whole thing get good This is this is hours on the clock and even if you had the answer in your brain and you could have solved it in about 60 seconds the dragging time minimum requires you to do it for 10, you know like Anyway, I don't know how I am about to crash out I have when I low when I turn this computer on steam loads up with it in the background right because my mom was using stream Hades too is updating right now with more story content. Yeah, it is Of course it is you absolute Many characters have new things to say at various points of the stirring the story pat pat Motherfuckers. I have bad news for you Your child is updating with new story as we speak right now There is new content being updated to your child Right now in the background the next time you go things will have upgraded No You know what sucks dude, you know what absolutely sucks shit When when he says a cool new Uh, like okay, so he was eating his Cheerios and some yogurt in like a baby dish And I was like, hey man, are you all done? He's like, yeah, I'm all done And then he like picked up his little thing And lifted up and went I made a mess though. Wow And I'm like Wow Okay, and then I ran I ran to tell page. I'm like page page page. He said this she's like, oh, yeah, he's been saying that lately I'm like, oh Is that what I'm doing dad show? She's like, yeah, I'm like Oh Yeah That's an incredibly aware statement Mm-hmm. Yeah, I know. I I mean just now I got a little shout that like hey, she's loving the chicken I'm like, ah cool Nice, you know, there's some there's some meals that uh You know, I'm I want to see the the the reaction to you. I'm so excited in three ish years There are going to be the most depressing ass fucking dad streams of all on dude's first day of school It's gonna be like and the whole schedule is gonna switch to accommodate right It's gonna be like nine to two or something and it's just gonna be like death stare at nothing just Yeah, yeah, you know I mean Literally, we're just discussing how daycare is coming up at some point And what that means and the implications of Oh So she goes over there, huh? You or or the wife need to have a a discussion with the daycare because there is a there is a unwritten rule about daycare genuinely And you need to ascertain whether or not your daycare Agrees to the unwritten rule and that is really simple. It is Oh my god, I'm so proud of her she she's she's asking she's saying please at the end It is up to the daycare professional to not say. Oh, yeah, she did that yesterday when you weren't here No Everything happens for the first time with mom and dad Daycare people for fuck's sake unless it is a safety issue or fucking whatever All first just light words concepts, etc. Didn't happen at daycare. You didn't see it. Just lie to me There is no benefit to hearing that your infant took their first steps at daycare. Yeah, okay Who the fuck does that help? Just lie to me. That's pretty good. All right. Yeah. Yeah Now luckily I got a couple of these things From the babies at school That motherfucker solved some calculus while you were away what you didn't know man Though they're in that hand backfire because there are daycare stories of children who um Can complete tasks and or speak languages outside of the view of their parents And then they will fake not knowing how to do those things because they don't want to do it. Oh I saw a fucking baby race the other day You know baby races where they like you crawl right? Come come and I saw one where it's like. Oh my god Oh my god This one kid is standing and walking for the first time in the middle of the race. Look at him go even though That's illegal. You can't have walkers or whatever, but nobody knock that kid over But it was the first time ever and totally not rehearsed even though this kid is hoofing it and basic and doing the usain Bolt at the end He's fucking breaking records and doing a spin arooni, but wow Oh my god the first time at fucking cheating pieces of shit Like asshole parents, bro You can't even have this one thing be honest and earnest with everybody. You have to fucking you have to cheat God anyways Um, can't wait for them. No one's gonna kick a baby out for cheating dude Yeah, well whatever I the um, I thought you were gonna say the rule is like When you get the update that says like what happened today and it was like, oh, well little timmy over here Uh was being a little physical And you know lashed out a little bit You go, oh, okay, cool. So so where's he at? So we get what we get right there yet? Willie you're not quite there But you're about to encounter we get our equalizer, right? You're about to encounter a a cognitive dissonance which is They're just kids. I could I could do it. They're just kids. I could do it. How could you judge? a two-year-old Right up until that two-year-old that you're not going to judge Gets within 10 feet Of your two-year-olds if I practice like a fucking little piece of shit If I electric wind godfist low enough to the ground I think I can get some some nice depth to it, you know, because you don't want to whiff overhead You want to get nice and deep before you come back up with a doria? So i'm just like how low How low do I need to Buffer that step Before we come back up. You got to get like at least knee height. Otherwise, you're just, you know, it's error otherwise So yeah, we're gonna see There are some there are some toddlers at my local place that I would fight if I lived in a world with no consequences You know, again, I just I want to remind everybody of what happened in tatsunoko versus capcom when Street fighters very own celebrity. Alex would land a stun gun headbutt on roll He would jump across the screen Grab the child and then take a knee he'd get nice nice and low and then just do a little just some chops Just get some get some flash chops on the child Alex street fighter is not big on societal Approval or boundaries on norms, you know Yeah, no Alex does not care for your social norms. Yes Roll got flash chopped Just real nice and low like a bunch of times a bunch of times. Yep. Yep. Everyone gets it Everyone gets these hands. Everyone can catch them um Yeah, my wife just Discorded me you guys talking about beating kids Yeah Yeah So the policy will um, you know the policies of the very of the daycare will Be written on on the wall. We'll find out what happens anyways, um, that's that's that's what's going on. Let's Uh We should thank our sponsors already did that when you weren't here. Oh, that's very smart of you to do that That's very smart because it because when I texted you the shit was Fuck there's a definite possibility. I wasn't coming back. I ended the show and called it done So this is a bonus show. So this is just some weird bonus shit that people were not expecting That's why half of them are pop of the comments are people going wait. Why are they back? Can I talk about my week a little bit? What'd you do? So the two I did mainly two things one was I checked out the demo for a cozy game called neverway I Would highly suggest you look at some screenshots of neverway as I described this Uh neverway is out of brazil. I believe Um, and it is the trailer for it showed up a while ago and it looked like a monochrome like cozy star Do kind of game, you know, you're you're doing your crops. You're engaging with townspeople. Love these colors But the description is after quitting her dead ebb job fiona starts over on a farm and becomes the immortal herald of a dead god Make friends fight through horrors and pay your debt in the this nightmarish cozy rpg Nothing about the face of this main character or the energy of these screenshots appears to be cozy so It's the cozy gameplay rapper Right Over something very different. So right off the bat. I don't remember these people's names. I am sorry It is the pixel artist of celeste And the person who did the soundtrack for hyper light drifter. Oh cool So This is a very strong Disaster piece pedigree right away disaster peace and uh cold blood um The game is in monochrome, but what colors the monochrome are changes per scene Right, it's like extremely strong primary color with an accent for nearly everything Um, so the prologue is out is what I played and the prologue is you are so depressed You have not been to work for five days and you are fired And your job is to go down to work and get your stuff And on the way home you get the the like the status effect tired and disassociated and uh trip the fuck out and have a psychedelic episode on a train At which point you decide I gotta get the fuck out of here and decide to move to essentially a stardew valley style like frontier rural area and kind of homestead it Um, and that's the very very beginning of the prologue Uh, and then it kicks you into a second part Of the demo which is later on at an unknown time Which is nearly exclusively gameplay, but I thought it was gonna be plant and crops and And talking to townspeople and shit. No, it's hyper light fucking drifter I'm looking at combat right now in the train. Okay. It is in a it is in a bafflingly vr style um environment um It has a dash and a hook shot It has a three hit combo on your sword attack It also has uh, I learned a new ability where if I dash it leaves shadow clones behind me that attack for me after two seconds um But then I have to gather enough materials to do my woodworking in order to fix a bridge Like you would in mystery or stardew. You know cozy can be inserted into any genre. It's just a series of management It's just the progression trappings and the the good vibes on building something up. That's it. Um Feels good looks good sounds good Very weird concept like very much like I don't know what is happening I don't know if this is real. I don't know if this is fake, etc. Super exciting looking um Your main character is like canonically depressed and often gets like the depressed status And there's all these little touches to the cozy end of like Do you want to go to bed if you just go to bed you get crash out? Like it's not sleep. It's crash out in the original parlance of the term And the and the downside is you gain a random negative status effect the next day Okay, unless you walk over towards your dresser and change into your pajamas And doing that takes five seconds, but then when you go to your bed instead of crash out it says sleep What crashing out used to mean? Yeah, which like so very very like little bits and pieces very cool I'm expecting it to be a um a 60 40 So the way stardew works is there's five pillars and one of them is combat Right in stardew. It's farming foraging um Farming foraging mining um, and then animals and then combat right And no fishing and combat my mistake and I expect that to be similar but instead of It being split 80 20 of everything and then combat probably like a 60 40 Because the combat in this game is really involved and really excellent in my brain farming fishing foraging and uh Like mine and those are all the same thing because it's it's Going to a resource and collecting the resource and waiting for you would think to replenish You would think but no they are different Okay um So yeah, no never way looks extremely promising. Yeah, this looks great The devs are also very nice because when I was talking about it. They hopped on on social media. We're like, oh my god Thank you for talking about our get you know that kind of indeed indie like appreciation The new thing where I'm gonna cover it when it comes out Well, we're in an era where back in the day we would just pop in a random game and LP it and nowadays halfway through they're like Hey, the devs are in the chat and you're like, oh And then and then you mentally roll a dex the amount of shit you've talked And hope it's zero I have been playing a game Okay, and gone what fucking idiot did this this or that and I hope they're not in there when I do that because that's embarrassed And you're you on that right and and that is that is hey to some degree. I have to keep it real That's brand right. I will say that I automatically put some kid gloves on for indie games. I just do I always have their best. I always have I'm like, you're not a giant studio You're doing what you can so shortcomings are reasonable given the scale inside Honestly, I would have to agree that for indie games. I also put on let's say let's say I put on one kid glove sure unless the Whole point of the stream is to look at this jackass shit Yeah, that is like a mom and then our tone has been set from the jump. I gotta I gotta hit my numbers here I gotta talk some shit. Anyway Uh, so yeah, never way looks super good like very very impressive. I also played a game called kingdom hearts 2 Which people like people over the years have liked speaking of indie games Yeah, speaking of indie games, maybe like well the Kingdom hearts 2 is like the peak moneyed game from a peak moneyed era of a peak moneyed company Which is 2005 square inyx on the ps2. Hold on a minute. Did kingdom hearts cost more than final fantasy proper? I don't know about that because the disney stuff makes it really complicated. It does But you they they invented the so square inyx invented their lip syncing technology for kingdom hearts 2 Yes, they did. Yeah, and they use it a lot in that game um It's also a game that you can really so kingdom hearts 1 is like this as well And you're playing too and you're like they have they they use every part of the digital buffalo in a way that's super impressive You go to a world and the world's like cutscene Go down this, uh, you know, essentially big broad hallway with a couple paths to you know fight enemies and get to the end cutscene Go back across the fucking same room. You just did Cutscene go down the other path Wide open area a little get a little lost do a battle cutscene specialty encounter Right defend the area uh, uh, uh grab the item Not like there's a good one for example in pirates the caribbean you have to you can only damage the pirates in the moonlight If they're in darkness, they're invincible because the curse is on them But in there in the moonlight they they're the skeleton form so you can you can fight them Cutscene boss End of world off you go like the the levels are more are usually like really fucking small like five six rooms tops Okay, like you saw like uh, I saw I saw agriba. I saw agriba and I saw uh, tarzan right, so That it though those two are actually like pretty appropriate for like the whole franchise. It's like Yeah, you drop you drop in and you spend you spend some time doing a bunch of stuff in this fucking jungle Yeah, but the actual amount of rooms is fairly small Right, uh, and they use that to vary it up Uh, kingdom hearts two is big thing Uh, I'm not gonna I'm It starts Do you remember that period after 2001 where every single time you started a game You didn't know if the character you were playing as you were gonna play it for the whole game Oh, that was a period, huh Ha ha ha are you fucking a bunch of fucking games? Are we actually starting the game or are you trying to be a fucking clever right now? Are we doing a little yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so kingdom hearts two has The second best one of those okay the first best is obviously metal gear solid too Because and I'll give it to that just because we didn't know it was actually completely unknown at the time um But on top of that kh2, uh, this is the final mix version I've not played it since 2005 And I definitely didn't play it right after playing kingdom hearts once the first thing you notice if you look at any screenshot The camera has been pulled way back Like in in kh1 sorus shoes were almost at the bottom of the screen now pulled way back Why because you need a wider camera because you're gonna fight way more dudes The the focus on more moves More types of enemies There's now something called a reaction command which is if the enemy's doing a special goofy thing hit triangle and you respond It's very similar in effect to nero's devil bringer So that sorra can have a bespoke reaction to a single enemy in the game a context button Yeah, um They uh redid how magic works in in kh1 fire was a shot blizzard was a different shot Lightning was a you know dropping shot here. Some of them are Uh, some of them are are shot. Some of them are like spin around you with flame all sorts of different things You can do it. They replaced aero, which was damaged down shield with reflect, which is just a parry It's just a parry It will parry attacks and retaliate And on top of that just the general feel and the amount of moves is so massively improved it's like a dmc one to dmc three Kind of jump okay in feel and the best way to explain that to a guy like you Is that one of the first abilities you get is tap square during a combo to hit your launcher Nice, okay, and then you can jump up and follow them with your air attacks And Are you still psycho crushing from enemy to enemy? Psycho crushing I feel like my memories of kh1 were like you swing a bunch on one dude and do a couple things And then you spin psycho crusher over to the next. Oh, yeah that the aerial aerial spin. Yeah. Yeah. No, um Not really okay, you're you're juggling a lot more guys And what are don olden new fee doing? Uh, so don't I'm playing on critical, which is the hardest difficulty Um, it it does a lot of things under the hood But the long short of it is it's the hardest difficulty, but they give you so much ap that you can turn on any ability you want So it turns the game less into an rpg and more into an action game Um the so as a result goofy and donald are dying They are dying. Okay. They're dying instantly in every fight. Okay unless I put goofy inside me so Kingdom Hearts 2 one of its big mechanical changes is something called drive And what drive is is hey is goofy alive and you have a full drive meter You can turn into red sora, which has two keyblades Goofy will leave the party And for 30 to 50 seconds you get to play two keyblade sora. That's what that is I've seen the artwork of that one. He's got more edge Yeah, do you want to play as uh, that's valor. Do you want to play as wisdom? Okay, donald will disappear And sora will be replaced with a version with blue sora and blue sora's ice skates And his default attack is him holding the keyblade like a gun and shooting magic And all of your spells have been massively improved and there's more forms past that Um It's much more mechanically complex. It's it's a much much better action game Um and the final mix version really nails that home because the final mix version added Okay Like 25 extra bosses Whoa in one like coliseum type thing or just like spray so Everyone that got killed in chain of memories Is back as what's called an absence in the wind so for example, I Um Was in the pirates level and you you get off the boat in a pirates level and there's just a floating icon in front of you And so our goes. What's that? Oh, it's an absence silhouette, right? And then you fight it and it is a it is the boss that uh people were complaining at me for 90 minutes last night Dude, just leave you can't beat her and i'm like no i'm making progress though I Think I saw the second phase. I see um they are all super bosses everything that was added was all like fucking super bosses Up there with like a virtual And it is every single member of organization 13 Some of them twice because they died in chain of memories As well as sephiroth again and some other Super bosses on top of that without cards to to no. Yeah, you want to fucking fight them So there's a clip of me fighting um sephiroth that was going around when I did kh1 in which i'm like, all right Let's go and he swung his sword once and it hit me and I instantly died within one second That happened again yesterday Where I was like I could take this bitch and with it within 40 frames of loading into the fight I got hit by lightning and died Like these are absolutely crazy level super bosses And I beat one under level and I don't think I can get that second one. Yeah, but there's just tons of shit in this thing I know the final mix like also added like hundreds of puzzle pieces. They're just collectibles But then when you get the collectible you have to actually make the photo That the puzzle pieces make and one of them's like 50 pieces and I'm not good at these types of puzzles slide puzzle No, just a regular puzzle. Okay, just put the pieces. Okay. Okay. Um, so yeah, um and on top of that like the the So if kingdom hearts appeals to people around our age honestly Most people got into it around kh1 Which means that the as the games kept going and new movies kept getting inserted in by disney Then you know, some people started to fall off and like kingdom hearts too has Tron and lion king and beauty in the beast and moulin and it's like No, these are the ones man. Like like this. These are the good good picks Yeah, it's a it's a great fucking game. It's an incredible fucking game Uh, did you did you get through it? No, okay, I've spent I've spent As of now I have spent a full stream Split between two bosses. I couldn't beat Because I bet I could beat them at level 20 when they're you're actually supposed to beat them at level 50 But I thought I could do it No, I'm not I'm not even a quarter Okay, kh2 why um I mean, I guess this is one of those questions, but why is squall leon? I don't know Okay I Always that's what it is and cloud is Vincent Yeah, well that I think I mean the second one I heard is just like they wanted it to be him But then they said no, so let's just mix them two or whatever, but I was just like what what was the actual Reason for the switch one of the funnier things Like genuinely is if you look at um If you look at what's her name, um yufi in kingdom hearts one, which I'm pretty sure you saw Um, she was supposed to be riku Oh Um That's why her outfit is wrong And it's much closer riku's outfit but They didn't put riku in Because they didn't want to be confusing because there's a different character named riku in kingdom hearts He's the Right. Yes. That would be a problem. You can't do that. Right, right, right Um, yes. No, I obviously squalls name lion heart like that's known. I'm just saying why like cloud is not calling himself stride Yeah, I don't know. Like why is he using that as his name is the thing, you know, I guess you played and you find out so What's weird is that? Lee uh leons an adult but cyphers still like 14 Oh, yeah, oh, I feel like I've seen the models like have the weird proportion changes for them and stuff true Hmm. I yeah, I don't you know, I have a I have questions I wonder about the the the final fantasy aspect of these games, but I whatever I guess you find out eventually You do uh, yeah, no a a plus shit and also man, there's It's really great to do his stream and just be able to sit around in a big group and be like Man I fucking love wind of the poo. What are the poo so great? I wish I could hug wind of the poo and and help him get some honey He's such a good guy He cool. He's cool. Oh, you don't have you don't have any love in your heart for wind of the poo I do. I just love tigger more Yeah, okay. Well the whole the gang of the hundred acre wood. They're they're a good bunch of guys Absolutely. Yeah, eeyore's the shit, you know Fuck eeyore. Eeyore's cool, man. I oh man. I fucking hate eeyore Eeyore in the modern world is on the fucking reddit getting blackpilled You just said the gang at the hundred acre wood and then immediately fucking you immediately want to include him all right, well In any case, I don't know poo Maybe it's the foids Fuck you eeyore shut up go outside That don't put that shit on my boy. That's too late. I already did put that on eeyore and the kingdom hearts one Shit that I did I did that already that is no one could stop me that like eeyore is not fucking Manisphere pilled. All right. We need to chill His tail represents his manhood stolen away by females You ever been to romania? See it's fun. It's fun Well now because you set up the stupid bit we do which is combined Combined a with b so now you have to go forward even though I disagree with the bit I'm still trying to find ways to work piglet into it to fucking Oh piglet just has an anxiety disorder. Yeah, well, you know And I'm trying and I'm trying to see if I can work that into a kermit voice And then just push it push it to the the logical conclusions because that's the same stupid one bit There's one bit. Yeah, kh2 is a good game It's real good Uh and this week I'm gonna play more of it Shocker I'm gonna play more of it tomorrow on wednesday and on saturday Uh thursday I'm gonna be playing rondo of blood which I've never beaten Oh, not even close just out of nowhere Well, not exactly just out of nowhere. See next week's my birthday I'm turning the four zero, which means I'm going to die soon So as a result I'm going to do a 24 hour stream and I'm probably going to do A fucking run through of symphony of the night just go. I see the whole way through Well, you know, I've been 40. I'm still alive for now. Also, you keep forgetting that I'm older I saw that thread Strangely Uh, and I know what the answer is. Why do I forget every year? It's because I'm balder and wrinkler And I've all and I've always been balder and wrinkler d'er than you I'm 40 bro always Um, well, hey look good timing on that because um, I mean the new shit they're showing off with um Belmont's curse looks pretty fucking sick Did I tell you that when the belmont's curse thing got announced like every time somebody asked me if I had seen the new Castlevania for like a full week I would go have I and then I would stop the stream and pull up the youtube video to watch the trailer again Yeah, okay, okay The no the new one with the commentary over it with them just going like yeah, we had the audacity to set this one in france You know, I was like, yeah and in the meantime like all this in you're in the meantime while they're talking over it You're just seeing dead cells in castlevania world happening Yeah, you're seeing dead cells level ups and like platforming and i'm just crazy cool looking shit in the background It's different in a very specific way So like there are some castlevania old heads that are wrong That are like I can't believe Sonia hangs in the air when she throws the whip instead of just falling according to her old momentum It's like yeah, because that's better Because that's a better way to fucking use the whip as platforming shut up. Oh man. I can I have none of that in my soul I have none of that dude, but I do I have lots of it, but I'm on the other side of it. But I know but I understand though because to be fair it's like, um, you know When mega man x when x got his dash right the dash is head first and Mega man's dash before was feet first like a football slice, right? That's right And instead of soccer sliding he's dashing forward and it's like well, that's not what it's supposed to be that's wrong That's incorrect and it's like no, but it's fucking cool. It's cooler because he's a more dynamic It's cooler to lean your head forward and anime dash forward. So shut the fuck up and just take it. It's fine It's sick. It looks awesome And you just accept that and now when he dashes Yeah, the head forward is that that deletes all the first time you dash head first through a boss door as x and it slowly moves forward While the whole screen scrolls over you're like, yeah Fuck the soccer slide. We're done with that forever So i'm gonna be dramatic here. I don't really care about the soccer slide from classic mega man No, no, but it was when you never had any movement. It was like, oh my god. Holy shit movement, right? It was a thing But yeah, but this this and then the shadows and then the first time you kick off a fucking wall Are you kidding me? Shut the fuck up. That shit's insane kicking off a wall in mega man x is god damn it that's fucking game rules Dude that it altered the course of hero academia. I'm so mad It's so awesome mega man x is the shit Isn't it really crazy how you look at a game like mega man x and you think about the wall kicks And you think how like nearly every single game to ever have wall kicks after that is just aping Mega man x forever nailed it on the first try first try hold kick off on kick kick kick kick In the fucking tutorial level god Someone sent me A thing going you talked about x3 the other day and the shitty zero system in that Here's a mod where someone changed it and fixed the game so that you can play as zero as much as you want the whole time You starting as him and they edited the whole intro cut scene so that after they both jump up and take down the giant Machine they the it's x zooms away instead you just stay at zero the whole time And i'm just like watching it and i'm like I got time Fuck it. Yeah, let's go run it. Let's just let's just watch this run You know god fucking damn it those games ruled and and so that's all this to say that if you do the thing That's blasphemous or wrong compared to the way it used to be but it rules shut up. Who cares? That's what it is now as a Castlevania person right? Um, there's a really specific type of developer interview that Um, you get pretty rarely when it's just asking some basic questions But every time they answer the question they answer the question perfect Like they say just the right thing. So hey in that interview. Hey, how does the whip feel? in bell mons curse And the gentleman says well, we wanted it to feel like super castlevania 4 Yes, that's the one but not as wiggly. Yes. That's the only problem with the whip in that game You know That's the perfect answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, which is why they got the gig right to begin. That's why they got it. Yeah Nice, okay All right, that's it for me. Uh go down to twitch.tv Slash pat stairs at the youtube.com slash pat stairs at slash live I'm gonna do streams. They're good Okay, check out the prog moda one on friday. It's gonna be fun Yeah Um, and it's also gotta have its conditional little shorts to go alongside it too So yay. Have you done one of those yet? I Mean, that's yes. No, man. That's a yes. No. Yeah, no, but it's part of the thing this time So so hey, let me tell you. Oh, maybe maybe you're not too enough of a shit bag To do this I haven't done them yet But like because for no man's sky I had to do one And so right in the middle of the sponsored part of the screen stream. I was like, okay guys guys I'm gonna record the tiktok. Okay And I just I just did the tiktok Yeah, and then I cut it out a twitch clip thing and then exported it to tiktok. You know what? This is the move. This is the way. Yeah. Okay I see that I see that Um, all right news stories. There's a couple things that happened this week Let's roll through them quickly because we blood-borne fans continue to eat a gun. It's crazy It's crazy Before before any news of anything relating to playing the game ever again happens Sony is making an r-rated blood-borne animated movie with jacksepticeye, which uh, oh I mean, oh, there's a blood-borne movie happening before the game is back like listen What if this movie does not release with some kind of patch at least so It's time to pack it up. This is what I'm this is this this is it right if you want to if you want a glass half full this Um, which you know, I'm an optimist. I I believe right here's what you do you go the new Brand related product is going to give the company an excuse to do something And that something might not be the thing we all want But it it certainly might not be nothing And realistically I suspect it would be more likely that uh, a bunch of blood-borne content would drop into night rain Then I think it would be likely that they would actually fucking update or release anything That we can play I would sooner imagine a blood-borne night rain pack for everybody for the promotion Yeah, bra From the iconic film coming upcoming movie, you know Bro.wav man, that's how I feel about that. Fuck far With the echoes behind it. Yeah. Yeah. What is that? I don't know, but it's funny every time It's a it's a yeah, anyway tick-tock. So there's that that's good news. I guess um On that note, uh, if you are attending a a card game expo Fuck in watch your back protect your neck and keep your head on a swivel because apparently um There was a big event where a few vendors Came outside to discover that gps tracking devices were placed on their vehicles And after contacting the police They checked all the vehicles and noticed a suspicious car in the parking lot with no license plate And as they approached it it sped off jumped two curbs and fled into the night That's no good. So people are out here trying to get at these pokemon cards y'all Crime crime is happening for for these cards and i'll say it again Do you remember when super potatoes got raided by whites? Oh in japan in aki. Yeah. Yeah in akiha And the whites descended upon them to fill up their ebay listings right right right right that's a recession indicator Right criminal tracking of people that may have high value Baby cards that are not cash recession indicator things that you can translate like value into That are not cash that you can hold stock in. Mm-hmm. Yeah the the the americans It's a sign of the american economy that i don't know what to do. I'll hustle babies card games Yeah, um Like the fact that there's just there we're now in an insane world where it's like one real terror that exists is um, you know like women have to check to see if air tags are being dropped into their luggage and uh Thankfully there's a thing you can use on your phone to scan the area to see if air tags are nearby By the way, if you don't know about that you should know um And then right second place is now uh people with a lot of pokemon cards Um, yeah, if if you know if you have a particularly good showing at the tournament Uh fucking, you know, don't leave through the back Okay A bunch of shit. All right, what other what other crimes are happening so send any good emails lately? Uh Forget to take off some of the attachments Oh, you don't know about this one what happened So, you know, there's that new avatar movie the about ang and the gang and when they're adults Yeah Would you believe it's just out now the whole thing leaked? Yeah, because somebody sent an email with a google drive link in the email Oh my god And then if I remember correctly somebody hacked the nicolodi in youtube account and uploaded the whole fucking thing Oh, wow the it's the animated adult. Okay. I've seen some clips animations. It's really good Didn't this happen recently with something else where they were uploading it as a copyright protection for youtube And then instead the whole thing went up. Yeah, that can happen Yeah, like it's something happened recently were like they they just they they are they had to upload it as a thing to To look out for to scan but they accidentally uploaded it to go live Ava it was a va, right? Yeah, exactly Holy shit, man. Whoopsie doodle. That's a fucking poopsie um Well, speaking of leaks If you hear any nintendo leaks such as there's a luigi's mansion movie coming or a new classic star fox game on the switch too Or a ocarina of time remake or a new 3d mario delayed until 2027 These are all fake leaks nintendo is putting out there to try to identify Who's leaking what internally? I gotta tell you okay Yeah, no no read my mind on this go ahead. Okay You and I spent days Over time and I've talked to I talked to fucking people Way up at capcom usa And I've talked to people at sony and it's so fucking funny That they were never ever able to find out who was leaking capcom stuff They still have not found out who's leaking capcom stuff the last time I spoke to somebody They're like it has to be someone in the sony brand team Because we can't audit them and they all share information with each other Fuck And it's so fucking funny that they tried this they tried this thing And it got to a different company that they had to tell things And that's where the trail went cold That's where I go. They never found it I will take this over the fucking the alternate version of leaks, which is like oh ransomware is happening Like hackers fucking took everyone's passport apparently that's happening to rock star right now Exactly rock star is literally getting hacked. That's not fun. I want somebody on the inside Yeah, there's no there's no dirt with that. That's just people's livelihoods is getting fucking put at risk and doxing, you know And like for for capcom specifically, there's like a really really clear Like through way how to get the leaks out I work at capcom. I message dusk golem Prove that I work at capcom Tell dusk golem then dusk golem goes and says hey this was coming out for resident evil over the next couple of years So that's it to me the funniest thing about nintendo's defense here Is they're using fake news that everybody wants to be real You are de-confirming things that people are genuinely excited for and saying we are not making a new classic star fox game on the switch To we are not doing a career of time. There is no luigi's mansion movie and there is no 3d mario what if their master plan Is that three or fake? oh Ah three lies and a truth yeah So, uh, I'm kind of shocked that we haven't seen more Game companies just flood the channel with complete nonsense flooding the zone is a tactic Like it's it helps there is and you've described the problem adequately The problem is when you flood the zone with rumors people get mad when the rumored things that kick ass don't happen Everybody wants to know who's coming to 2x ko how about 15 different character leaks so Simultaneously all coming from the official channels And then and then one of them happens and who knows about the rest And then you just say and then you just make it so that the second character that comes out after that big giant leak list Is someone that was not on that list at all Right someone that was nowhere in that 15 drops second and then everybody loses their fucking mind Yeah run it Um genius Brilliant, but also if you report on the fake leak They send the nintendo ninjas to your house to fucking kill you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and the cap cops are out there, you know Cap cops are weak By by modern standards. Yes back in the day right now They would have maximillion in the triggers in the sights But he's getting away with shit like putting up 10k for a rollback bounty on marvel 3 Well, back in the day If capcom knew that I knew any of the stuff that I knew they would have shot me and now they're paying me to Talk about brag mod next to me. You're damn straight You're damn straight. It's also because like like, okay, we know a bunch of capcom stuff But it's also like the juiciest, you know, like the tea is so sweet Is the sweetest The sweet tea is so sweet Every time every time I catch the fucking drip of what of the capcom tea. It's like Oh, it's so good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, nothing like that I heard dirt from other companies at times where you're just like, oh, yeah, okay Such and such as a jerk or This this that whatever and like out here you're like, what? He took the money What what are you talking about? That's crazy And he got away with it. Oh, oh man um So, hey, you know talk about put your fucking money where your mouth is bro Uh, you know max has successfully done this in the past and it's time to do it again Marvel 3 has been relegated to the Community of people connecting on parsec long enough So a bounty is out there if anybody can work some netcode in to make the game run on rollback There's a bounty for 10k out now announced On tns this week Fucking awesome. Just max. What a what a champ love love that you love the scene and the game that much And here's the thing um, this type of thing is absolutely possible because I don't know if people remember but about five years ago on get into fighting games I had a dude on my stream called uh fizzy And he is known for being the one who created slippy the melee All right emulator that lets you play Smash brothers with rollback Perfect rollback and that is the standard of like online play. It is a perfect in caps it does it runs better than anything and um, He just yeah, you can absolutely develop around an existing games framework and do this So, you know, I saw some people like going like working on it trying to get there trying to set it and set it up already um Awesome love that Do you mind if I make a snide comment about max's bounty? sure max spent all that time and money and social capital To fix up and make marvel infinite look real nice and real presentable and then went Uh, can somebody fix marvel 3 so I can play that instead? No, no, I mean yes But also because it's a different awesome game It's it's it's you know and now that you've got the community edition especially it's like Yeah, we need a fucking way to play that thing without having to par second But sure it's like I got my wishes the thing I wanted was done You know you you spent all day modding skyrim And then you start to play and now back to oblivion I don't even yeah Now back to the wall No, I I I think it's fucking uh, if I I hope this like this happens because It's a really clear case of like capcrab is not gonna fucking do it you know And well, they're gonna compete with the fucking themselves Well at this point if there was a thought towards it they look and they see the reddest ocean Of like every other tag fighter trying right now and they're just like nah It's it's all come back later market. We got 2x ko and tokon You know punching each other and their wieners I mean, it's a bad time for marvel to come to walk back into the room with the time for capcom versus capcom With the pizzas. Yeah, also known as honestly street fighter six right now, but Wait for the next season. I mean the again the um that that that leak list from way back in the day said Tokon is not marvel for so Anyway, you know some of those things didn't happen apparently the ff9 remake just didn't Didn't go or it's not gonna happen or it it went until it stopped yeah Rumor there's rumors that it's like it's not that it doesn't exist. It's that it's not getting released Uh, there's only do you have any other news you want to talk about this week? Uh, no not really I mean we were also talking about leaks. There's a screenshot of of something from season 3 of dare double born again And uh, if anyone cares there's some stuff there that's interesting, but nah not much The only thing I got is that uh the a 14 ton shipment Of steam controllers Just landed stateside So the new one that shit's gonna get just shadow dropped Okay, any fucking day now Uh, there was a very excited for a steam controller that has the steam deck shit on it Let's get the hands on and see what's happening. Yeah. Yeah Uh, that is a that is a contender for a biggest glow-up of a controller But i'm so used to the dual sense at this point though that i'm like You know, i'm satisfied with what i've got so here's the thing It's gonna take a lot to pull me away from this touchpad on the dual sense It's okay, but it's in an awkward spot the projected touchpad things on the fucking thing On the steam controller too man, that's gonna help with a bunch of games that just don't quite Work perfect with the controller. Um, and the reason why they're pushing this thing is deadlock Okay, okay. This is the deadlock controller for sure Also now that i'm two generations deep on it. I can say that elite controllers that have rubber backing actually suck Because the rub them for a while The rubber always peels off it peeled off on my get really gross because your hand sweats On the xbox elite it peeled and on my dual sense it peeled and i'm like Oh, this feeling is great for the first month And then it starts to get a little grimy and then before you know it It's starting to just come off as a separate section and that sucks. So those need to stop um Here one other thing shout outs to mom Out on blue sky, but a little game That you can play here. I don't know if did you did you play the game? Uh, I play some games sometimes probably not this one. I didn't see it Okay, so mom has a little a little thing saying if you want to giggle here. I'm going to send you a link to a game on steam Um, it's called dude the dark army before you click as soon as you click on this Scroll all the way down to the bottom. Don't look at the screenshots or any footage. Just scroll all the way to the bottom All right Conjure and then and then read the ai disclaimer right There's an ai disclaimer on this saying that the game uses it and then you go scroll and you read that and it talks about everything that That the game uses to to generate Once you've done that scroll back conjure a mental image of what the game might look like Mechanically and visually with that long disclaimer All right. All right. All right, and then scroll back up to the gameplay footage and look at it Toss me the the store page or the link. It's right there. Oh wait, hold up. No, you said to somebody else. Yes, I did. Here you go Okay Scroll down Okay, I scrolled down. Okay. Here's the developers describe how blah blah blah Of course we used ai tech to speed up our business processes and produce higher quality and better performing games We use clawed for code development chat gpt for visual production Created the game's cover art with chat gpt and wrote the game's overall code architecture with the help of clawed These ai significantly sped up our work, but absolutely do not think the developers produced this The game without any hassle only a single prompt that's thought is completely wrong What actually happened is we gave these ai's some of the tasks we would have done ourselves and did them in stages to speed it up Naturally with this process it took six months. Of course. All right increasing the speed of game development Um Open world I saw a guy with a gun. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm expecting like a Open world boomer shooter that just looks like shit. Okay Oh my god If you want to play along at home audio listeners, that's dude the dark agent on steam I mean I know for a fact Like four people over at new blood Could bang this shit out in one day. What bro? One one hour One hour Draws the assets. I mean like do you? I genuinely think that like samanski could put this together by end of day by himself. This is a 45 minute fucking Code and compile in my brain. This is um and these fucking this thing is like crazy We needed ai to do nothing Just hang it up that's wild hang it up and walk away from this from the dream You know Like making a complete piece of shit has value Because you learn things when you made it and the effort is worthy in and of itself But making a complete piece of shit that took literally a thousand times longer and also you didn't even do it You just wasted everyone's time. You probably harmed your own brain um Fucking crazy remember creatives were gatekeeping output They weren't man you could just you could do a thing castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's Castle super beast mail gmail.com. All right, jonathan says hey pat and woolly I've been recently enjoying one of my favorite games soma And I've marveled at how actively stupid simon is throughout the story to be fair He suffered some traumatic brain injuries. That's true, but he's told time and time again what the deal is and he refuses to understand Um, who are your favorite stupid protagonists? I'm sure okay. So first of all the thing with simon Is that I have met people that would not be able to correctly encapsulate what's going on in soma Right and I know you have and I'm pretty sure everyone in the chat has heard that as well I've met people that would not be able to get it my favorite stupid protagonist Without a doubt, especially right now is saura kingdom hearts. Oh, yeah There is no dumber than I can imagine aggressively brained it Absolutely unbelievable Again, it's like you have to have bigger heart than brains in order for it to work Well, luckily he's in a game called kingdom hearts. Yes. That's why I hear you works and so on But should I tell you that goofy is the smartest person of that trio? That's crazy. That's awesome. It's dire, man It's dire. Well, I'm surprised donald is a mage to begin with considering. He's so angry. You know, so Not really I would have thought they would have made donald a more aggressive Archetype considering a fighter man, but he's all mad and shit. You know, so and he's in the and he's just mad and he's a sailor He's an angry sailor that doesn't scream mage to me How does a sailor shoot a gun with his gun? But he's magic is the closest thing you can get to him shooting a gun An angry sailor is sailor is going to pop by his way through the solution. You know Because donald's a pussy. Well donald talks to him It turns out this way in kingdom hearts too and she talks normal. So what the fuck is going on with donald Yeah, I just I would have you know the again the the the the fucking sailor that's stomping on his hat and going Is gonna like fucking deck somebody and and you know why? Do you know why he's he's a mage? Why? Because dragons in final fantasy use magic And the male duck is a drake Thus it's a fucking joke. It's a it's a it's a pun. Okay. Yes. Sure. Sure. Sure um I don't like it My favorite dumb protagonist is harry dubois because The reasons why You know are much more complex. It's not about him being dumb. It's about the weight of the fucking world Yeah on his shoulders. Can I give a shout out to whoever you're controlling in a metal gear game? Not the character But whoever the player has latched on to the cam. Comes the dumbest bitch around I speak in questions. Yeah All right, we'll take one over here. Oh someone in the chat said kratos Kratos is not a favorite dumb protagonist. He's the worst dumb protagonist. Yeah, but he is so stupid He's in an in an in an upsetting way that makes you actively root against him Which he's dumb as well. Not many games have made me root against the the protagonist. It's kind of insane I remember before god of war 2018 came out We had a really long talk on the podcast about the only way it's gonna work Is if the game spends like its entire runtime I'm dogging on kratos for being the dumbest piece of shit in the world And then it totally did and then it did and then it actually did. Yep. He's like god damn it. I suck and it's like, yeah, man Okay, just checking Yeah, um And and I think the moment was I think the first moment in the trailer everyone got it was like he gets angry and then Coms down talking to atreus and you're like, ah Oh Yeah Let's see over here. We got one. Um, oh Yep, no, I got another one. Okay in ff7 remake there's one moment in the game where the girls leave the party and cloud and barret are left to their own devices in the second to last level of the game in which they are trapped inside the shinra tower Arith and tifa and red find of security camera And they look at the boys and the boys are standing in front of the biggest door you have ever seen it's like 10 times the size of like a vault door from fallout and Barret and cloud are kicking it They're sore against it Like yeah Boys total neanderthals Boys boys boys boys boys boys It's so Boys boys boys boys boys Clangs the sword on it and it bounces off so hard. He almost falls over and barret like is kicking it with his foot Yeah, you gotta fast near that door down. It's the only way it's so fucking funny They get collectively dumber when left around each other. Yes. Yes. Um, here is there's another one Maybe in page we're watching one piece and she's like, why are they doing that? I'm like because every man on the ship is an absolute fucking moron page Nami is the entire brain for the entire crew Until nico shows up then they can share the brain Yeah, yeah um Good bit Here's one uh name that given. Hey, I feel an ill so keeping it simple and clean What's the worst case of getting to Finally play the bonus campaign slash dlc epilogue level where they let you play as the rival or companion character That was cool except they actually sucked to play or it was half asked Uh for me, I'll be our missions playing as the ninja Oh Fuck I wish you could do more Okay, I can try they yeah, I finally get to play as the ninja. Oh cool. It's in this fucking floating bullshit And you use the punch button to swing the sword and you barely get to do anything It's just a it's just a ninja's combo. It snakes combo But he's got the sword in his hand while he's doing it instead of getting to swing And then you never get to actually properly use the sword until the end of two Um, yep For uh, for me, it's the end of jedi survivor You play as deborah wilson's character for one level but she has one style and it's an awkward mashup of four moves Oh, yeah, she's not good She's not good to play from the normal main characters kit with animations that look more composed rare slower Also are slower a good example of would be power fantasy that actually makes you feel like you got nerfed Uh, yeah, I have two more Elizabeth and burial at sea play is the worst playing shock character She just doesn't have lots of stuff going on even The booker had in the other game and vergell from the dmc devil may cry bonus dlc Where he is a shitty character in a shitty campaign the first time Until they fixed it Yeah Definitive edition they they they did they did more um The I mean i've talked many times about onimusha and that last character switch over to What's her face at the end where you're just hey, bro? Wouldn't it be so cool if you played onimusha and there you constantly switch characters were less fun to play And it was called onimusha four way of the sword Dona dreams mr. Ono Don of dreams the donna dreams whatever way the sword's the new one. I whatever Uh, she has three good games. Yeah, I mean hey, I got one but it's like almost intentional in a way It's not quite the same thing but playing as dormin It's out of the it's out of the classes did that like a couple weeks ago. Yeah, it's like very awesome It's a it's a sick moment of like oh fuck here we go. Oh my god. I suck. I can't do anything Oh, wow, I'm having a really hard time hitting these little This is awful. This feels bad. He's getting away. They're getting away. Oh no. Oh no. Oh, oh shit. I see Uh, yeah, it's almost like um in in like snk games when they have like the boss become playable and you're like, oh They didn't even program a crouch This character was never meant to be controlled. They have Less than half of the more moves that a regular character does and every button just does one of their spells or whatever and that's it I think the coolest version of that that I ever saw was when people hacked apart dark souls one and discovered that The bosses and dark souls one are actually attached to a controller's moveset. Yeah All the attacks are coming off of one of their one of their inputs like they're they're acting as player entities They're they just have different bodies and different hit boxes. That's so interesting Um, and last one over here. Uh pumpkin spice pepper says hello, donald goofy and saura um in the fishing jrpg Gameboy game legend of the river king a young boy is tasked with catching a legendary fish That could cure his sister's illness once you make your way out to the second village over You're made aware that a bear has been terrorizing the area and the game tasks you with killing the bear Despite the fact that you're an unarmed prepubescent boy with no actual superhuman powers That hasn't fought anything more dangerous than a bee or a snake at this point What's the most insane thing that would be asked of a player character if it wasn't in the context of a video game? Hmm Uh, I mean I can say the like a dragon series in totality The ask but I mean the he's clearly got the capability you fight some stupid And some of those later games woolly I mean I go really strains the reality of the scenario Uh shinji getting in the robot is still the most insane proposition of anything it's like Child pilot this fucking uh war fighting plane Get in and go now and it's like you're dead man. Why the fuck would this 14 year old get in there like that's insane It's that's ridiculous and the fact that big burning shonen anime were all about that energy Um Was always insane to begin with I think that Proposition is nuts Most most like kid get in the robot Gundam or You know brave yusha ass things are just like you imagine saying that to a imagine taking a 14 year old and going get in that tank Now you know what alone go This uh captain britch is in the chat is very correct in saying that uh, Ethan winters in re7 and re8 is the only Fucking regular dude That you ever play as the rest evil series been thrown into that. He's not a military guy. He has no formal firearms training He's not a cop. He's just some fucking guy Going through it fighting a bunch of bullshit Fair enough You you learn eventually hard times whatever Um, I'm gonna go with heather mason fighting the devil with a samurai sword killing god Yep teenage girl kills god with a samurai sword and no training whatsoever Um, but the mason bloodline with a little help from plan b It's just it's just the mason bloodline. You know, that's it Uh, yeah, oh Hina co silent hill Hina co is so strong and there's that pipe dude and there's no reason for it She's she's got a blood-borne dash because she does track in high school, but that's it man. She's so Okay There you go. I think that about does it All right, we got to get out of here. This has been a technically long podcast Again, as I as I said I said in the stopped time between of them. I'm like, oh no, unfortunately your five hour podcast has been shortened to two Meanwhile, every other podcast you listen to is 59 minutes and 10 seconds Yeah, that's true. We spoil them. God damn it. Yeah, we do. Well, we're gavors. We can't help it And then you're gonna hit that Trim silence button to speed shit up Yeah, fucking jerk At four times speed that's too late too late So So