CSB358: Jeff Epstein The NY Financier That Invented Microtransactions? What Happened?
171 min
•Feb 3, 20264 months agoSummary
Castle Super Beast discusses industry layoffs (33% of GDC survey respondents), negative sentiment toward AI in game development (52% view it negatively), and covers gaming news including Neo III's ambitious design, Final Fantasy XI's GM bug fix, and the collapse of Ashes of Creation after a decade of crowdfunding.
Insights
- The video game industry is experiencing a sustained contraction disguised as normal operations—layoffs are systemic and ongoing rather than a discrete event
- Developer sentiment on generative AI has inverted dramatically in 2 years (18% negative to 52% negative), while management adoption remains high (47%), revealing a fundamental disconnect between decision-makers and creators
- Crowdfunded MMOs represent a structural failure mode: perpetual development funded by subscription creates perverse incentives to never ship, making them inherently predatory compared to traditional game funding
- Quality-of-life features and accessibility (auto-equip, free respecs, transmog) can fundamentally reshape how players engage with complex systems without diluting depth
- Environmental storytelling through item placement and enemy location (e.g., Bloodborne's ribbon) creates narrative context impossible in other media
Trends
Accelerating developer exodus from AAA due to layoffs and AI implementation pressureCrowdfunded games shifting from one-time purchase to perpetual subscription models with no defined endpointQuality-of-life standardization across action games (respecs, transmog, auto-equip) becoming table stakesNegative AI sentiment among creators reaching critical mass (52%), potentially signaling industry-wide resistance movementMMO design learning from single-player games (Persona, Yakuza) to improve pacing and world-buildingManagement-level adoption of AI tools despite creator opposition creating organizational frictionIterative live-service balance patches (5v5 mode in Helldivers 2) revealing pre-built features held back at launchRenewed interest in legacy game analysis and preservation (FF XI bug fixes, DMC anime retrospectives) as cultural artifactsFranchise reboots (Neo III, Shenmue III) struggling when they prioritize historical accuracy over design evolution
Topics
Video Game Industry Layoffs and Economic ContractionGenerative AI Adoption and Developer SentimentCrowdfunded Game Development FailuresMMO Design and Live Service EconomicsQuality-of-Life Features in Action GamesEnvironmental Storytelling and World-BuildingLabor Practices at Ubisoft ParisTekken 8 Balance and Fighting Game DesignFinal Fantasy XI Community EventsNeo III Open-World Design PhilosophyShenmue III Nostalgia vs. Design EvolutionStardew Valley Game Loop DesignDevil May Cry Anime Production AnalysisEve Online Player-Driven Warfare EconomicsAshes of Creation Kickstarter Collapse
Companies
Activision Blizzard
Bobby Kotick allegedly convinced by financier to implement aggressive microtransactions in 2013
Ubisoft
Offering negotiated termination contracts to Paris HQ employees; facing strikes from five unions over layoffs
Bandai Namco
Developing Tekken 8 with new characters (Kunimitsu, Roger Jr., Bob) and ongoing balance patches
CCP Games
Operates Eve Online, 23-year-old MMO where players destroyed 316 billion ISK (140 months of subscription value) in PvP
Square Enix
Maintains Final Fantasy XI with GM-led bug fixes for notorious monster respawn issues affecting loot economy
Team Ninja
Developed Nioh III with dual-mode combat system (samurai/ninja), open-world design, and extensive quality-of-life fea...
Capcom
Devil May Cry franchise subject of extensive video essay analysis covering anime adaptation and production credits
Koei Tecmo America
Sent early access code for Nioh III full game to streamer before embargo lift
Concept Games
Dissolved two weeks ago after decade-long Kickstarter for Mighty Number Nine; faded to zero opacity
Arrowhead Game Studios
Added 5v5 mode to Helldivers 2 four days after launch in response to community feedback
FromSoftware
Elden Ring referenced as design influence for Neo III's open-world interconnected level structure
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio
Yakuza series cited as superior spiritual successor to Shenmue's day-to-day simulation design
People
Woolly
Co-host discussing game design, industry news, and personal experiences with travel and gaming
Pat
Co-host analyzing industry trends, game mechanics, and providing critical commentary on releases
Bobby Kotick
Allegedly influenced by financier to implement aggressive microtransaction systems in 2013
Addy Shankar
Created comprehensive Devil May Cry anime analysis video featuring clips from Castle Super Beast
Reggie
Introduced to Ned, returning as guest for Combo Devils platform fighter stream
Quotes
"The video game industry crash is happening right now. You're standing in it. You're breathing it in as we speak."
Pat•~00:45:00
"I don't think anything else has come close to Neo in terms of iterative design and feature creep. It's remarkable."
Pat•~02:15:00
"The moment she goes 'okay I get it now, it's lights moving anyway, what's next?' we're cooked."
Woolly•~00:15:00
"You were born. What did we ever do to you?"
Jubilee (quoted)•~04:30:00
"Every time there's stories from Eve Online, they're the best though. I want to hear more of these stories that I never want to play."
Pat•~04:20:00
Full Transcript
! Hello. Oh my god. Are you fucking dead? I come to you from heaven. Hello. Oh my god. Did you did you bust out the camera in that lighting setup and just be like holy shit I can't believe it. I mean basically the deal that's what it is you know we're making do we're making do holy order woolly has arrived hello I am out here in a different location do you have like a really complicated instant kill combination you have to do in order to get here let's fix that there we go now I'm sure don't fix it yeah yeah yeah yeah no no no like leaning in from the afterlife that's what it is so god damn funny and as the sun sets on the side over here we'll see what what becomes of it but from now so you're not at home obviously yeah no this is this is I'm just I'm here to warn you you know yeah I'm the ghost of the of super beast future I'm here to warn you about what happens when you play Shenmue 3 what's the deal with Shenmue 3 bro Patrick Bois that game good Patrick Bois yeah what's up before I even don't like it I I I might have been wrong Shenmue is that is that true I believe so I played Shenmue 3 on vs wolves and that game is so bad that it made me think back on the past about Shenmue 1 and 2 and I think I don't I don't know that they were ever good and I'm looking back on what I liked about them and what brought me joy and looking at it in the current context of like how bad Shenmue 3 is and what how faithful it is and how what it does and doesn't do and I'm kind of like there's enough of this here that the bones are similar enough to what you did walking around in Shenmue 1 and 2 and that might have been bad from the jump but the fact that it was the first time you are walking around a big old Japanese town and doing I looking at items up close in detail and just having this big old open realistic day life simulation thing was like wow video games and that was it that might have been it the whole time also every once in a while a little bit of kung fu if you fancy but not enough to make it worth it yeah I I I I feel fucking so vindicated but you you you got you landed on Yakuza before Shenmue you even looked at it at all right like you saw I had been to people's houses and played a little bit of Shenmue okay I was like the like I was like the concept is cool right like like the I'd like the idea is like rad but like the game itself is like trash like the the voice acting and the environment and like the gameplay and what you're actually doing and how it had a real-time clock and you had to be home at a certain time to do certain things so the trash but like okay so you think about the premise of like playing a game where you can walk around it's the first time you're playing a game like this where you get to walk around and like yeah like day to live day to day life in this simulated way and so many games have done it better since then but it also like forces this really stilted awkward like just no one really feels alive version of reality on you that sucks it just sucks the conversation pacing sucks the silent like five seconds between every line feel awful everyone has these weird spanged expressions that don't it's just super odd and like um I saw something I brought up was that like I saw someone once ask a question that was like is Rio is the Israel autistic coded and that's why like some of the way they didn't have that back in the day bro they're kind of flat and I was like no no no no that's not what's going on everyone in this game is just the game they didn't make it in a way where they prioritized dialogue being delivered do you speak the language of Chinese you know in a way that like flows back and forth like it's um and then the the the the pacing of like events and the way Pat time passes and you go play your lucky hit and then some of the times the critical gaming the the critical moments of the game involve walking into a room opening shelves and looking at objects and just oh yeah that's a cup that's a cup is that the cup I'm looking for it's not okay back in the shelf it goes and that's like five minutes of game time being spent just looking at the and what you're supposed to feel is wow they've modeled a fully realized Chinese cup with the amazing details on it and it's so the textures are incredible and you're supposed to be like wow video games have made a cup but like now that cups yeah yeah okay it's an it's an object in the game who the fuck cares outside of its historical technological context of wow wow crazy outside of that like nothing in it holds up at all because the actual things that you do and see and play in that game are trash like y'all like I'm a big fan of like a dragon right let's talk about yakuza one or you like a dragon one right that game also has a bunch of shit in it that's really bad it has crazy shit load times every side quest is the same etc but the difference between those is one's a fan game of Shenmue right like yakuza one is a little bit like I want to make Shenmue for me but like things happen in yakuza one and it has a story yeah the story goes somewhere and then it ends and the story ends and then on the trip to that story you do things and you talk to people and you have gameplay like I didn't even get to that part because I'm just like like before you even get to gameplay it's like on the surface level everything about the way Shenmue feels as a video game is it's the gaming equivalent of 3d glasses movies where it's like whoa let me take a sip of this drink right here wow that guru looks so right watch out for that snake oh it's it's it's the snake in captain eo I'm on the ride at Disney and you know that it's about to get you or the honey I shrunk the kids movie oh my goodness honey I'm on the ride oh wow we're all getting big and now we're small and it's like the goofiness of 3d glasses movies where you watch them without the glasses and just see weird things being held up to the camera and suddenly you're like this is garbage this is not made to be watched or like it doesn't matter it's just a novelty of oh my god look at it so Shenmue's doing that and then the actual gameplay this is the one this is the thing right you're on a quest to get revenge because dude walked in your house and killed your dad someday all right cool martial arts quest landi good let's get it and the absolute if only you could landi's hits the fucking loser and like you're learning moves and you're getting you're doing martial arts and you're learning the like elbow the palm and the and all and all that to build up to like a 70 man battle that's gonna happen at the end of the game and you're like can I fight anything in the way there's like I think there's a total of four you know um anyway and so just yeah and then you you landi I don't even think he's in the first game besides the the first cuz I don't even remember him showing up in the first game at all and then and then you play through the entirety of the second and then he's on a helicopter and like flying away and you're just like what why would you make the the the the string or whatever the breadcrumbs of this character the only thing interesting about the story so far you know well okay some of the characters you meet in Hong Kong were like or in in in Hong Kong or like more fun but like the one guy that matters to the story they're breadcoming him in this way and then uh you find out it's because you Suzuki wanted the game to be 16 parts long and you're like you're out of your goddamn mind go fuck yourself historically good idea one of the best but I really just I thought it felt like at the time yo look it's cool we're walking through the city and we're playing lucky hit we're looking for the sailors and the four wudo you know and now you just play there is a more cohesive internally consistent narrative between the beginning of yakuza one and the end of yakuza one chapter two then there okay for the entirety of the Shenmue series I like so that's the thing is eventually yakuza becomes what we see today and know which is it sounds like it's in a series that like I like there's the one major reinvention with like itchigo but itchibana sorry but um but like it became other things between one and two and then two and three and all many things it reinvented itself so many times right it became all things to all peoples of all cultures and so this is what made me this is what made it hit was what I'm looking at Shenmue 3 and I'm like this is so boring and slow and garbage and terrible and it's sapping the life out of me and the way you like it's doing that thing where they're walking down the road and because the game has to load all the events you did it's like I'm gonna go talk to this guy today okay yeah that sounds like a good idea Rio and then it fades away and then it fades back in and then it's like I'm gonna find that special thing today oh yeah we should do that too okay and then it fades out and it fades in and loads the next question description like and it's just doing all of this in this awkward stilted horrible way and um you kind of realize as the game is like okay you've played three games a lucky hit you asked a no lady a question about where to find some some stone workers and you play tag with some kids that's a full day's work time to go to bed and um you're like you could have made this flow way more naturally and faster making this game in 2018 or whenever it came out you could have done so much to make this better and make this a better experience but you chose not to and ultimately one the part of me that was like well they probably thought no this needs to be true to what Shenmue is and to make it true to what Shenmue is it needs to be as stilted and as awkward and as like weird about this stuff and then you're like oh you and that's what made me go oh maybe this was never good you know because the the opportunity to reinvent Shenmue 3 here and make it a good version of what it was and have everyone feel real and be a living world and all that stuff with everything we learned about walking and doing day-to-day tasks from persona games with everything learned from obviously the Yakuza series and like every other thing that has passing passage of time you know there's so many lessons that you could have been learned in the meantime and they just they choose to throw to choose throw all of that out to just be like nope we're gonna pick this up as if we made this game the year after Shenmue 2 was done and we got like a glow up on our textures oh by the way we're get this yeah you get this feeling that it's like when you're playing I remember when Shenmue 1 came out and there was this feeling of like wow they're really pushing the envelope with a bunch of weird shit super excited to see what they're gonna do next and that's not what they were doing they had a weirdly insanely specific idiosyncratic view of what they wanted the game to be exactly and just made it that way and then they were never never veered from it never veered from it yep it is it feels accurate to the world and that's the problem um and then sidebar there's there's a little bit of weird shit in there it's not the biggest deal but like one of the main characters you meet at the end of Shenmue 2 that like is what the whole series is kind of about like Shenhua who is next to the Shenmue tree um they just kind of did a weird thing where they're like yeah she might have looked a little too Chinese for our tastes so let's make her look more like an anime Japanese character and her face this and the whole design changed and you're like what why why is that a thing you know and then the interviews are apparently like apparently it's like there's uh what there was a desire to soften the girls features or whatever you're like all right okay okay cool yeah this is the one thing you're gonna change sure sure man whatever you say anyways um yeah that that that was a that was a brutal time warp experience of me sitting in front of my dream cast in the year 2000 just kind of I thought I thought I was having fun and at her it's that I was having nothing well I mean you did have fun but you were you were you were being bamboozled but my fun no but Pat my fun was wrong listen listen listen listen my fun was that's like a desperate like mind trap that can get all really toxic but like sometimes it's true it did happen like you were wrong you you were so obsessed with the idea of having you know you gotta go back in time and just to tell young woolly like no no I know you're enjoying yourself but your your fun is wrong come back on you later it's gonna get you this is a mistake anyways um yeah no so uh all right there off my chest um and uh oh yeah that's that's like terrifying it's like there's all sorts of things where you're like something new comes out and you're like oh I'm gonna be so excited because I loved it when it was before and then you play it or watch it or whatever and you're like oh it doesn't really hit for me I don't know and then you you hit the mental problem of like is it not hitting for me because it's different or because it's not different at all and if it's not different at all and it's actually super faithful then you have to start going like oh oh wait wait a second wait did was the was the whole stuff good okay no there are just like a child there's a selection of media that I enjoyed from the past that I have not reexamined that might not be worth reexamining because let's be real like yeah right and I'm kind of like I there's a point obviously where we all are out where you're like I you're you're nowhere near as critical about the media you're consuming you know however many years ago but you enjoyed it was it was cool you enjoyed it and that is what it is and not everything needs to be hedgehog two I beat Sonic the Hedgehog two which is the first game I ever saw credits on and I was sitting next to my dad and I was like dad what's wrong with all these people's names wow wow yeah yeah okay okay that took a second yeah yeah yeah yeah they're from Japan Pat there yeah people have different names over there I'm like oh okay right like that's the level of like child ignorance we're talking about with Shenmue you just it's just every once in a while something comes back up from the past and you're kind of just like you see it you took and you're like wait did this hold up and it did does or a movie and you're like yes okay I it wasn't it wasn't garbage the whole time you know but that's not everything and like I'm I'm content to probably go to my grave not looking at some of these things you know just let it let some of some of them we can let sit for a minute um but you know and and the thing is too is unfortunately like anything from the like fourth generation or so from the Super Nintendo Genesis era you're like ah you know it was a bunch of sprites and people were figuring out how to make games good for like you know the first times right but then some of it's terrible right but some of it's like complete trash but like the justice is not that good but I love it but the games that no but think about the think about the games that are the most trash from the Super Nintendo Genesis era they don't make you anywhere near as upset as the bad games from the ps2 era which make you nowhere near as upset as the games from the 360 era and current bad games are like life-ruiting right as the generations go on you get more and more mad about how bad they are because they have less and less excuse ultimately and the tack is like you know we had this feeling PlayStation one onwards and it got stronger for a while we're like man this shits the future isn't that crazy yeah and like that totally blinded everybody to like a bunch of like this thing actually sucks though it it it it sometimes it takes years sometimes it takes a sequel coming out you know and then every once in a while you'll see the kind of thing where like a sequel will come out and then um keep enough of the idea it'll do the shovel night right it'll keep the spirit of what you remember but then just make it better you know um I feel like you know like a Metal Gear Solid one was doing that right take if anyone loved the Metal Gear games because like this was taking enough of what you remember but just actually throwing out a bunch and making a lot of that go smoothly and adding in a bunch of really cool shit and references and music and all that getting better um anyway whatever choose carefully to re-examine your your your you know uh formative media or at the very least to proceed into the sequels you know I like I went back like like last year or the year before I went back and was like all right I'm gonna do Bioshock one or two and I'm gonna Arkham Asylum and Arkham City and like three of those games held up really well and one fucking did not and it was Bioshock one oh man that thing aged like shit yeah I'm you know what coming off of city as well and being like oh yeah I can appreciate what you're going for here yeah I I Bioshock one is definitely a case of like me being thoroughly thoroughly entertained by baby's first libertarian dystopian ayn Rand story you know this can mean something and then you later find out actually it didn't mean anything at all but like I'm sitting there going is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow oh yeah that was that was a you know when you when you see a topic or just yet the novelty of doing it first carries a lot of fucking impact on release you know there there's a there's a there's a thing to you're the first open world game even if the open world is garbage and it's empty and hollow and there's no reason to ever go explore this full map but look how big the map is you know and then you have you have to watch that evolve into just cause to where it's a giant island that you can do fun parachute stunts on but there's nothing in between this location and that location but a generated forest of trees that has like it's empty you know just like what the fuck is the point anyway um all right there uh I am yes so as to why I am in heaven uh well apparently that with being dead I'm in New Brunswick I'm out here uh even further away I went towards the the other side of the coast so this is a truly uh trans-canadian experience right now um and uh yeah just out of town uh had some had some family business to take care of had a funeral to attend and stuff is going on so uh while I'm out here I decided to you know like we're we're also enjoying um our first trip with baby isn't that fun yeah I mean overnight trip with baby that we have that is to say yeah and and look we have been told uh certainly that like while the baby is a potato is the best time to travel did you fly yes okay then yes you're correct because she's not going anywhere right and uh can't really get away from you yeah let me increase the heaven meter there we go um and so uh yeah we we we got we got we got little punch kid on the plane and um you know got to learn the ins and outs of like wait a minute does a stroller count as a check-in but can I use it to walk up to the gate and and it it well it depends on what kind of stroller right because the super like some of them are like the super heavy duty all-in-one rolling cars that are strollers are like no but the ones that you can carry them in where we have like the car seat attached it's like yeah you can use that for example um carrying the carrying baby luggage stroller car seat is like the hardest like traversal experience I've ever had in my life turns out you just don't have enough arms but too bad you need to bring all these things I turned into sand bridges basically it's crazy yeah I turned into sand bridges I also found that like um I'm usually over prepared when I travel with stuff I found ways to like pack too many things into smaller suitcases and be like oh I don't need I don't need that much and now I'm like uh between this podcast setup and like a couple of t-shirts were like all I got and I don't have enough but the check-in was just all dedicated to the baby you know um but uh no I mean honestly like for all the preparation of like how much of a nightmare it would be thankfully it was quite chill and oh yeah the potato baby easy to handle and I'm extra I'm I'm I know that uh you can afford parents grace when in this type of situation but I'm still just being that like I don't want to be the one who's ruining everyone's flight and I'm just just thinking about it just I'm like I I'm just I know if so if people are cool with it that's cool if they're not I can't do anything about it but in the meantime I'm gonna do my best to just make sure baby can be quiet and calm and we can have a nice one but I but you can't do much because hey that's how that's how it goes right I'm if it's going crazy I'm gonna practice my look back and shrug it's like eh you know let me tell you traveling with one and a half year old don't that's not the same thing just fucking don't just that's that's a moving little person we're kind of out of the woods now because we're like on the on the right side of two and a half and we have a person who can talk to us and we can read them books and they're like oh I like this and you know you can hold hands and wander out but the one and a half year old only knows how to run to danger and freak out like it's it's it's the between one and two is the absolute worst time to fly possible so I mean I will say that like you know at this age it is you don't get much control except for just like okay she's gonna be going down for a nap on this rough time or so um fortunately it turns out one the sound of an airplane cabin is one big white noise machine yeah I love it I love the sound of that is great I love it right this that the everything going that just that high pitched air going through the cabin thing whatever really solid um mute you know if baby's gonna cry out to make noises a lot of that gets muted out and so that's that's a cool byproduct and then between that and I think I talked about it a little bit before but the little spinning light ball toy right just the little like it's like when the one that's that that's that analog brain rot yep yep when when Barton Lisa blow into their power rings their Dakota rings it's just that and that shit just turns the cry off at least temporarily um you know and you're like especially because I also remember during takeoff and landing when I was a kid I had huge problems with my ears popping like my ears still pop pretty bad thankfully they don't anymore you know but it was it was rough for me a lot of the time you know I particularly remember having a bad one with the Grenada flights you know um but yeah no with her it was cool and we just we used a little light thing to just distract and eyes were like uh you know and then the problem though is that like the distracting light eventually she can get used to that so you have to keep like rotating it and keeping it interesting and like turning it off and on because the moment she goes okay I get it now it's lights moving anyways what's next we're cooked you know um but that toy kind of is just like yeah doing doing the heavy lifting there um can't do much about you know there's a car right after that once we landed so we had to go even further out there and and that's what and it was it was you know she struggled and had her had a rough go of that but overall you know not too bad um it is one thing that's nice about like I guess yeah the whole I guess traveling with a potato thing is like every room is new every face is new everything else is new so she's kind of like super stimulated she's in that like whoa whoa whoa kind of phase you know big eyes like oh like taking taken she's pogging all day you know which means you're like okay as as long as we can get her down for her naps we don't have to worry too much about like her getting fussy ahead of time or whatever it's like you know she's predictably overstimulated this entire time and we can like use that data you know um yeah that's cool uh what else is going on I uh took advantage coming out here one of the things I think I mentioned last time I don't know if anyone will ever find themselves out in the uh on the the the east coast of Canada and by that I mean like the actual coastline area but Dixie Lee is a brand of fried chicken out here that is fucking phenomenal um and it's particular it seems like it's a particular hit with the Akkadian people uh and uh I just want a cosine and just underline like you know say it's a bit of that thing where you're like yo I hear that like you're like okay I like fried chicken fried chicken is good nice original you know southern fried chicken is fantastic and you're like wait Korean people are doing what with fried chicken and and then it's like they're doing good things with that fried chicken and you try it out you're like oh fuck okay Korea I see you you know and then Japan's got the karage going and you're like okay okay I see what you're up to you're going a little bit lighter on it you get smaller pieces but yeah that that doesn't you know and and and all of that and like I I feel like this is another version where you're like okay you're doing fried chicken you got the batter being like it's not it's like it's not fully hard like um crispy battered or so there's a little bit of that like barbecue slickness to it so it's somewhere in between and it's quite nice um so I'm I'm gonna cosine a brand of chicken you can only get if you find yourself out here in the frozen wilderness for any reason um and the other thing you can do if you find yourself out here in uh in the cold is so the the the heaven that you see behind me is uh actually a frozen lake cool right and uh that is a lake that is very thick and you can walk out onto it and people are grabbing their snowmobiles and doing their thing enjoying the the woolly I do not want to get a phone call from your wife explaining that you are currently a flintstones style ice cube man under the lake okay I had many questions about the frozen lake and I asked them and as I was asking them I my discovery was that not only are snowmobiles going by on the frozen lake but trucks full trucks are driving out onto that lake is the level of frozen thickness we're talking about here so I was like oh shit okay fine I think I've been putting on a little bit of weight but I think I'll be okay all right all right if the truck is able to do it and um no and and sure enough like what's set up out here uh you know shout outs to uh dad-in-law who's got the you know that thing rare where the white people set up the tent and then they drill a hole and then they cut a hole out and then they go dip in the with the frozen lake that's not just white people but yeah I get it ice fishing's for yeah not fishing not fish not ice fishing that that that's that goes to many cultures to have done ice fishing no I'm talking about the one where you cut the fishing hole but then you get in the hole that the polar plunge thing oh yeah yeah yeah no that's the white people thing that is that is no one else can do it everyone's just like no that that activity is hard limited to the Caucasus okay until today right until I went to go check it out and just see and look at see what's going on in the tent and I was like and I was like you know what fuck it fine right he actually had the heating going and extra towels and everything set up and I was like whatever we'll get a story out of it I hope the I hope the fucking podcast bit's worth it you know and then yeah stripped down both of our minds are ruined by this concept where you're like I don't want to watch this I don't want to do this I don't want to ah fuck it Monday oh god damn yes yes um it it is Monday and we need something to talk about and let me see if I can get the audio going oh yeah that's it breathe breathe slow it down motherfucker oh son of a bitch fuck fuck but you're good man yeah 20 all right that's impressive boy so how long were you in there bro I got I got I got a solid 30 seconds you stupid motherfucker I got a solid 30 seconds and then I got out yeah how was it how was it it sucks shit oh man yeah yeah yeah no that okay okay okay no no that that is hey hey hey you okay first of all everyone that you're hearing boy that's impressive that's not in the boy that's not a not in the not in the that's second language fucking francophone anglophone ah come on American the American southern boy is not the same as the the up here that's no it's not god it's not bad Jesus christ it's that that's a boy g willikers boy gosh all right anyway moving on moving on um I got a good 30 seconds out of that and oh hey stop it phone thank you that's not good for you man that apparently it's apparently the benefits are super incredible for you actually yeah I can I can pull up a tech talk for you right now about the benefits of drinking your aged piss sure sure and then you know Oscar de la Jolla or whatever and then you get whim off with the breathing and the dude that's like out on the mountain going and sitting in the ice and stuff and it's like to be fair yeah that dude can do it and the and the monks can do it um but who the fuck are you canadian jamaican canadian kid like what the fuck you got you know you really weren't set up like biologically or culturally for this nonsense not built not built but what I here's what I can say though is that like yeah what okay you do it and then you fuck you're I I do feel I'm like I could have pushed it further I don't know if it would have been at damage or detriment but like I think that there's a upper limit you can hit with it where it's like after 30 minutes there's no real benefits to to doing it so if you can get up to that point minutes minutes people do up to minutes and that is where the the maximum benefits you come from at which point then you can you know the rest is just fucking achievement points you know on the on the leaderboard um and then you get out and then you walk back outside into the winter and I'm like oh this isn't cold at all which is cool but also like if I was outside for a while that would be the worrying thing where you're like wait a minute you don't want to be out in the cold with your body being like I'm kind of hot actually the surface of your skin is fucked up and your whole yeah yeah yeah yeah have you ever have you ever fallen asleep in the bath mm-hmm no that's wild in the bath once and it fucked up my shit for like a month all right I could like sorry false alarm don't worry about it there there's a there's a there's a fucking uh side fun episode about this but it also happened to me falling asleep in a hot bath and then it getting cold while you're in it fucks your shit up so bad hold up do you take baths that like involve enough downtime that's falling asleep is possible uh no not anymore but when I was much younger yeah I was like I was like 10 years old oh wow okay yeah we just I was a shower kid the whole my whole life like I was it yeah I took baths until I was like uh an adult and then I switched showers okay no never never did that um I mean I have the classic of being like if you just if you're in the ocean or you're in the water too long like your temperature gets fucked up you know when you come out feeling weird um and then yeah for sure for sure once you get back inside after that your body does that thing where you're like oh like I feel like I'm high or I feel like there's like a natural something going on in a way like because a bunch of your cells are dying they're like yo yo can you not kill me please can you not hey hey I'll make you feel good if you don't do that again how about that yeah no it's um and it's the type of thing too where like you uh like each day you do it and stuff it gets a little bit easier and your body gets a little more used to it and stuff so there's all there's a whole bit you know in the morning after my game of Russian roulette with my pistol I ready to greet the day I mean as in as much as you know the expectation would be like this is a frostbite activation device um it turns out that uh no you know it it can be it can be well controlled and if you if you do it in a certain way and you go through all the things and you have a nice heating thing waiting for you on the other side of it but yeah I I did not plan for that at all I was just looking at it and I'm like you're here whatever let's go you know and I mean to be fair like the person who got in right before me did five minutes right that's like so and again every bit after three it's like just just extra you know so it's like okay like put those points on the on the leaderboard standing there and there's somebody who's in there for five minutes and like you like you said the the aim is three sorry about that um so like even if you wanted to back out now you're like well I can fucking get in for a little bit this guy just did five minutes that's there's a little bit of that in the air as well where you're just kind of like okay pussy get the fucking the water yeah you know I'm old enough now that I look back I'm like enormous parts of my life that were just ruled by like you don't want anyone to think you're a fucking pussy and and now now the thing is too is like I have done cold like um the Scandinavian circuits you know or whatever where you do like um you do they do like a whatever a cold plunge and then like a hot thing right like there'll be like a like a steam room or a sauna or whatever or like a hot bath a hot tub and you go from one into the other and stuff and like I've done that before you know um fun little fun little activity if you want to have a a little anniversary night or something and your body does go from hot to cold and or no yeah no from hot to cold from cold to hot to cold is what it is that's what it is and like it feels really like whoa like it feels really nice and it opens your pores does all these things or whatever but nonetheless with all of that understood I continue to decree that this is an activity that is uh 100% exclusively locked to the Caucasus and that has not changed those mountains are cold oh yeah I I saw I mean Jesus Christ I mean the shit they're doing out there you know they have I saw things where they're like oh you you want to talk about like babies and how comfortable they are in different temperatures check out these Scandinavian countries where they put the baby outside in the winter and they just have the baby wrapped up in like a ton of layers and they put the little you know fuzzy thing out here so the wind is not really cracking in and then they just put them outside in the blizzard and it's like yeah no they're chilling they're loving it and you're just like what what what they're good for to be like what are you why like is that uh yeah I don't know you know maybe that that's how you form the the Scandinavian personality you know that's how you know that's how you form the the stoic attitude dude oh shit yeah anyways um I mean yeah that that that that that that shit would like I saw like there's a video where they're like they just they go out in a blizzard to like a little like box and through the they pull out from the snow this package and then they open the package and then it's just a baby like hey what's up I'm chilling looking just in the with under like yeah we put the baby outside like like like like recycling you know anyway um I think uh I think punch girl will will have her time to get used to uh Canadian winters but but for now we're gonna we're gonna focus our steps it's that's it um um uh beyond that uh not much else except uh yeah just you know played a little bit but got got a little bit further into call to the lamb and um fucking just that just a really solid loop man so fascinating how talking to you I hate those fucking villagers I hate them so much dude like I like I'm actively angry at them every time they do anything that's funny it's fucking crazy I've decided to I actually like got caught up and I spent way more time in the village for a while instead of going back out that happens like in between one and two and two and three where you spend like multiple days building shit up so I took like I took out two bosses and then um you know which is like minimum eight runs or so uh and then you know they give you the couple the extra locations to go visit and I did some of those and like that there there's enough possibilities of new things to open up by just spending time in the village that I more or less pushed my cult up to cult level four yeah like that's exactly exactly what I just did interesting okay okay yeah and it the third the third bosses dungeon is way harder than the first two and you start hitting like you have like 20 guys and it's like hey they need a lot of food and they also don't lock the doors behind numbers that are that high so it's like the first one's like five and then or three or I forget what the first one is but like whatever the number is the second one was like seven and then I think the third one's like 12 so you really don't need that many villagers you can get you can open all four doors almost right away and I feel like if they wanted to like stagger this to be like no your cult level four only comes when you do you're far in you know they would have been like yeah get 20 before you can open this next door or whatever you know um well it's getting harder and harder to get more and more right like the the jump from like five to ten no no problem the jump from ten to fifteen is a little tough when I got up to like 22 villagers I ran into the issue is that they were like dying yeah faster than I was replacing them right right right and what can you do about that right well there's some options um you also get to you also like I don't know are you like what for for a while I was using the missionaries to go out and get like I'm like oh fuck I'm really low on wood oh fuck I'm really low on gold or whatever first two missionaries I sent out fucking died yeah yeah so uh no more that oh really interesting okay I've been doing it because I had good luck with the first couple um and I have resurrection so I'm not too concerned about it but I they came back and uh the now my resources are like overstocked I'm like super good on all of that so I'm just kind of like can you go get more members you know and those are like the highest requirement ones like the percentage of chance of failure is the highest um but you know if you set up the if you set up a resurrection cult right um or one where they don't particularly mind like you fucking uh if you have if you have things where it's like um what was it uh you can choose marriage or sacrificial fight pit and I'm like guess I'll have to find out what marriage is like on my second run through the game you know because here you go oh are you an old member of the cult that is no longer useful in any way shape or form and actually everyone gets bummed out when you die of natural causes because they want you to be sacrificed get in the ring god bless the ring right um so that that that that kind of like little sequence is a lot of fun um like those things are not balanced at all and sometimes I regret the ones that I picked but uh once you get into the post game you can get an unlock material to eventually get all doctrines oh nice okay okay because yeah the either or on some of them is like I'm like you know I'm like do I want a bonus when people eat like um food or would I rather just be able to feed them grass yeah and I'm just like I'll just do the grass thing just in case it gets bad you know or whatever um or there's that what seems to be the difference between a strong active option and a very mitigated passive option that just makes it like not as bad yeah um because I mean like even the stuff now where it's like oh do you want to brainwash them and um make them put them on a fast you know or whatever where they're just like immune for a couple days okay that's cool is really really fucking strong yeah so no but but but like it's way better than the banquet one but I haven't been struggling with feeding them in a minute now you know so I'm like only if they when they ask for it I'll turn it on but I've been able to go out for a while and come back and like you know there's enough between the the level two farms and stuff for them to for the cooking and stuff like it's not that bad you know um anyways uh yeah I last time we were talking about how it was like 50-50 farming and and you know exploring and fighting and stuff and I feel like I just through my own volition turned that into like 80-20 you know yeah because it is 50-50 it's just sometimes I sat down and I did five runs like because I did the the the fasting one and so I just had like five days of runs in a row and then I went back and did like nothing but cult slash village shit for the entire rest of the evening because I had all these resources I needed to build um yeah and then like getting the return to home buff getting the start with four random cards and that's all you get but that's fine buff and then just that the the all the places that are like spend a hundred bucks to buy cards or uh decorations and you know all those all the extra locations I'm like I'm broke every I'm always broke like really it's like by far the most limiting factor I should probably just sell some something so that's what I was gonna say so literally just go fish get some swordfish and sell them they sell for 20 bucks and also um you get 20 bucks for every swordfish you sell and if you do the runs where you know you go into the the church with the the lady who gives you your your art your l2 power up your l1 power up or whatever you're you're super yeah so if you smash the bodies in that room you get cult meat you get follower meat and follower meat sends for 10 bucks a pop I see so literally every time you do one of those rooms destroy everything in it and you get a ton of money in addition to um in addition to uh uh getting fishing money as well um plus plus if you got the did you do the bounty of the sea ritual I haven't finished it no okay so if you do the food rituals there's one where you can choose um between like harvesting the land or whatever or like bounty of the sea and the the sea one which is a big big deal is like it makes you catch twice as many fish a multiple variety of fish and the fish you catch are higher value and you can cook better things with them or sell the rare ones for tons of money so that solves your money problems you know so I go into every probably just tax them more I haven't put it I've been in individually doing the rotation I don't even bother with that anymore I just I just do this you know and walking into a room and having the 50 bucks to just reclaim the last item I cleared with every time yeah worth it I want my hammer my hammer is stupid strong like I am I'm hitting I'm using that buffed up hammer like level 14 or whatever it's at where you hit a boss and it disappears into phase two immediately and then it comes back and you hit it and it disappears into phase three like it's a joke you know so uh yeah fun game again and I can feel too as well that I'm like okay at this unless they really throw like massive difficulty spikes into the works here um it's like I'm coming around the bend a little bit so I wouldn't mind slowing it down and like maxing out this this cult and seeing like if you can push past it and break it now there is a post game stuff so now you used like now that you you you beat the the you know two guys you can go back and run their dungeons again and then there's uh there's like a set of modifiers and basically the your post game rogue like if you would expect after you beat the one who waits below um and um the main thing is that uh that will rotate in its own post game loop okay separately from that is wool haven which is the the the the expansion expansion which is two new areas and also has its own post game loop okay which has new um it has new stuff for the the the cult stuff as well like you saw there's a tab for wool haven items yeah yeah yeah yeah includes like animal breeding and stuff like that oh my god I can't believe you fight the one who waits below I'd man like they have a spot on the on the you load your save and it shows you the five icons so it literally shows you yeah come on um so that's it uh I'm enjoying that that's that's good shit um and yeah uh this week obviously uh I will not be around tomorrow but uh I will be back on Wednesday and uh we're gonna be doing a special stream um it's going to be I think I think I think I can say at this point um I'm gonna I'm gonna be playing uh the new platform fighter combo devils uh which is going to uh we're gonna be joined by uh one of the devs on that and um my friend uh Reggie's friend uh that introduced me to Ned as well who came to help me with rivals of Aether's gonna come back on the couch too and uh yeah we're gonna check out this new platform fighter um it's it's one that has uh a lot of bones from you know traditional fighting games in addition to the smash stuff going on so uh from taking a look at it seems pretty this has some some smash bones on it yeah uh one of those bones being like if you you don't like if you beat your opponent up long enough they just die even if you don't knock them off the stage yeah just fight I'm seeing a wolf that just did a mother fucking sore you can sure shing exactly so they're like the fact that there is a life bar period is already like oh okay cool interesting having having both of those in my mind is now like oh wait why didn't they do that why didn't they ever have both hb and smash like soul caliber did you know there's a ring out um god remember just PlayStation all-stars you can only die from a super like that just the absolute dumbest possible design decision because now your ability to play and win at all is locked behind how good your super is like what if your super is just garbage I was literally about to just say this like everybody had three supers and like the entirety of that game's tier list everything about it was boiled down to three moot like everything about your character was just boiled down it relevant there was nothing other nothing else at all other than three moves it's crazy you had good supers at level one and they were the best characters by a country fucking mile you know it's like yeah you do you have amazing buttons you can do all the damage you're fastest you're incredible whatever all your supers are your supers suck okay guess you will never you will never win okay cool you will literally never win the game it is impossible horrible design uh so that's gonna be yeah that's gonna be the plan for uh this week and um I think some other stuff after that but I'll announce it on my socials so gotta see how things are going in the meantime but stay tuned for that at least on Wednesday I'm gonna be playing some combo devils and break it down what's going on as that that that game is is going to be you know you're gonna be hearing about it a little bit more in the future that's it woolly versus on twitch and youtube what's going on uh so i'm continuing on with stardew valley and um i'm almost at the end of the first year and that that game just has way more going on than I thought it did like I thought it was a cute little farm game and then like every session that I sit down I encounter like a new mechanic are you just encountering the updates made over the course of a decade not yet I don't think it's there's just a lot it's just like it's it's ridiculous that's one of the best games ever made it's Jesus Christ it's so it's so amazing it's unbelievable wow okay it this is it's what you needed at your life in this moment right now yeah right that's because that's what these games are for they're for scratching a particular itch at a particular moment in time you're not it's not always stardew valley time but when it is yeah that hits I get it I can easily see how people can blow like 300 hours on a save file and then turn around and go I'd like to start a new farm but this time I'll start the fishing layout farm and just take a slightly different path there like the the day-to-day loop and satisfaction is so high it's unbelievable like it it's it like I look at all the games that have stolen from it and like the entire automation and farming genre that has sprung from it and I'm like man like a lot of art still but are you just still trying to catch up but like when you say that are you just are the previous sentence are you just describing that like the particular like ball tickle it gives you when you you know collect all the things and take care of your crop and you know do a do a round thing is just like oh it just feels nice in the particular way so it's a it's a number of things one the the there's three parts to it one is the actual like a proprioceptive feel of like the sound effect the timing thousand dollar word the the sound effect the timing the music the presentation the inventory the item stacks the the noise it makes when you pick up items like the act of chopping a tree in stardew valley feels about as good as like fighting an enemy and like most normal right on top of that is its hooks into progression in which like yes I've been tending this this this pumpkin crop for 13 fucking days and oh it's harvest day oh and then you dump it all to the bin and then the end of the day when you save your game again it gives you the ticker but then you take all that money and you should immediately reinvest it and like more sprinklers more fruit like better tools etc and it has just this excellent progression through its own meta system and on top of that is the day to day loop is the perfect amount of time days take 10 to 15 minutes every day okay and so there is always a tangible benefit to you go through a full gameplay loop in 10 to 15 minutes over and over and over and over and over and over again and each loop has something of value to its progression and has a good presentation and a good gameplay feel and has an excellent aesthetic and musical accompaniment it's like he just nailed like multiple parts of the formula right away on try one it's kind of amazing how it's remarkable that we'll like sit here and like shit on games that are just like not barely games that play themselves for you that are just a complete you know waste of your time but if you make a game where you have to do it all manually and then slowly turn it into a game that plays itself for you that makes all the difference in the world you know you earn the autoplay comes late like automating any particular part of the process comes really really really really really late okay you have enough money to make massive crop fields and you can have dinkly little sprinklers right but how do you get decent sprinklers you're dealing with like the fucking whole stretch your farm when you're still watering it it's a long long time before i like i am about to make good sprinklers like like next stream and stardew valley has 43 hours on it okay like in the automating watering the crops will be next stream at hour 44 and 45 so it makes it very easy to expand horizontally but vertical is really really steep yeah yeah and the way that i got the materials for those sprinklers is that i found the desert dungeon and then got really lucky on a given day and fucking fought my ass off getting down to the caves to get a bunch of the mineral that i can only get because i spent a ton of time in the other mines getting gold bars to level up my pickaxe and so like each of the different pieces feeds into all the different other pieces it's just incredible okay it's like the easiest recommend of a game i think i can make because it's also not hard and there's no actual pressure i'm gonna go ahead and say that i don't think you have to recommend stardew fucking valley to people i think i think they know it's good though like me out there it's it's whatever baby little farming game it's like it's it's it's kind of the best but it well it baby little farming game that you've been playing pieces of in everything else everything that's doing any kind of like farmsteading you know section yeah it is definitely one of those things it is it is more than some of its parts like it is a very basic dungeon crawler it is a like the actual tending of your farm in the crops is fairly simple the items that you get are clear and easy to understand and not crazy but the way that they all loop into each other and the rates at which they unlock and progress is just perfectly tuned it's crazy yeah i mean like again even the fact that like a game like ball x pit you know is like hey we'll just throw a version of this in there and you know i found myself spending a lot of time on it you know um i don't i don't need it to exist because like games like hades for example where going back to base there's a couple things to do but it's really just prep for going back out and doing the next run yeah right like spending money on the decorations and shit is like i who the fuck i personally i spent nothing on any of those cosmetics you know what yeah stardew is hades in reverse the only reason you're going out to do a dungeon run is so you can get the materials to in order to actually to make the farm better yeah yeah you know the little you can do with hades is just like why even bother you can use that same currency to get some real cool shit that's actually gonna affect your game you know it also like the decoration slash building and slash landscaping stuff makes a lot more sense than something like stardew where it has no like practical purpose whatsoever sit very similar to there's no practical purpose in like haltha the lamb to put decorations for most reasons sometimes people have to do yeah yeah right but like i got like livestock i got like goats i'm sorry i got goats and cows and chickens and and ducks right and like i could just let them roam around for wherever and i'm like this looks like fucking shit so i built them a fence they don't need a fucking fence i could just let them fucking go wherever but it looks like shit having the fucking cows just wandering around through my crops and all that bullshit so you get out you guys get fenced in also like in cult of the lamb three out of four things you unlock inside of a chest are just texture patterns for the floor like there's so fucking many of them that they're like no no no we really want you to care about the cosmetics on this yeah i don't care about the cosmetics i really don't i mean i like i bring them back to life as i can kill them again later you know there's the one there's the games where it's like oh like you get like a cosmetic that lets you see um your stats on your last run or something or whatever like stuff like that in like katies or whatever it's like yeah okay that's that's fine that serves a function a function although it is pretty sick i do have to say when you get a item a cosmetic totem that is like um after you kill a boss you you can put like basically like their head on like a you know that guy yeah yeah because that's straight up some jingus con shit where it's like i've put like paintings of me conquering my enemies in the room before you come meet me so like you walk into the to the church and you have to look at all my bounty before you come see me is like okay okay i get that um cool yep so sardis kind of the best still i play some backlock games uh let's see uh the only one i really want to talk about is kari mara beneath the forlorn limbs words words things i'm gonna i just kari mara c a r i m a that's with a c wow yeah i would go with the japanese spelling uh on a guess interesting yeah kari mara beneath the forlorn limbs it is a grimy ass old playstation one aesthetic short ace attorney game in like a haunted woods um it's like 90 minutes long i accidentally beat it i'll beat the backlog okay uh it's fucking awesome uh that's it there's not there's not enough in it to talk about it more other than like just giving the whole game away and it's quite short uh but it's it's it's fantastic interesting okay are you like going to steam and clicking the ps1 aesthetic like tag no okay no no these are all users user submissions okay true we are about 70 percent of them are user submissions true true um one that was not a user submission was that i've been playing uh the neo 3 demo so i played neo one got a little bit in bounced off i played neo two got much further in and bounced off and now neo three is here uh and neo three is the one for me okay i mean the quality of life has surely hit the absolute zenith so it's so neo three um is uh significantly different in a number of ways and the number one way is that is the elden ring of neo games it is it is finally the thing i've wanted for me for a long long long time which is i want an open explorable space that's interconnected instead of multiple loaded areas the super super strict levels um also uh the the the feature creep slash quality of life creep has hit like anxiety inducing proportions there was one of the uh streams that i did of it where every 10 minutes i got like a splash page of like a new mechanic and i just started like yelling like stop stop is neo the most like not successful but i guess like advanced alternate souls easily series right it is it is significantly more it started it started as a souls like it started as a souls like and then it just branched on its own path and just fucking kept going and has not stopped since yeah i don't think anything else has come close you you start up neo three and the first thing that they hit you with is their brand new primary mechanic is there are now samurai and ninja modes and you switch between samurai and ninja by tapping r2 samurai includes samurai sword odachi axe spear um switch glaive fists and tonfas i think ninja is kasari gamma dual swords ninja katana all the little shit yeah uh etc etc right and i'm imagining projectiles and archery as well yeah so you have samurai mode and ninja mode samurai mode is neo one and two where you have your three stances and you have your key pulse and all the stuff that you expect playing from those games ninja mode is a completely different character that doesn't have stances instead it does more damage hitting enemies from behind they jump hard so first of all there's a jump and a double jump they jump higher they sneak faster and on top of that instead of key pulsing they have a dash that is invincibility and leaves an after image of you so that the monster attacks it for a second so you can hit them in the back and doing damage with ninja with anything builds up your ninjutsu items for free which you can just now use instead of your stances oh do you sacrifice the um uh the other scrolls uh the that you used uh forgot what they're called but because it was ninja so yeah yeah do you can you know can you still use those okay no every if you are about to say do you still have yes wow whatever you think wow and ask do you still have it yes it's just a different character okay so you just tap r2 and you go from samurai to ninja and back instantly it's like it's like 40 frames it's it's instantaneous um they both have completely different equipment sets you are now running double the equipment wait you switched to a second set you're wearing yes you're switching to the ninja equipment whoa okay well like yeah okay a different build is you have two bills crazy loot vomit is nuts um right so okay now does this imply that there are sections where you must be in one or the other no no the game is overwhelmingly just fucking do whatever man all bosses and in and scenarios can be done one or the other yeah there's only one thing that really really really really strongly suggests it when you hit r2 your character does like a little spin to change into from samurai to ninja and back you know those gigantic red attacks from neo2 like the unblockable unblockables yeah yeah so instead of the the there was like a yokai burst thing where you had a special counter it was like either an armored hit or like a parry in the second game using using your spirit yeah now it's a pure yokai and now it's a pure parry and if you switch to your other class when the red attack hits you you will do a guaranteed counter attack and fully level up your stamina and be empowered for a second so like the the you'll be fighting the boss and then the boss will hit you with a big red attack and if you parry you're like well i'm fighting him as a ninja now style switch parries you feel like it at any time but the switch over is now buffed yeah also when you're doing any damage you build up your ninja items for free and if you're doing any damage uh you build up your samurai meter for free which gives you a huge amount of damage on your triangle attack so switching between the two is the intended experience but if you hate that and you're like no i want to play samurai the whole way through you can go to the options and make it so that that doesn't automatically switch you it's just the parry if the what Jesus christ okay um but weapons are still limited to their modes so the weapons are now split in half uh some weapons are samurai mode and keep all their stances some weapons are ninja mechanics and have lost their stances but have gained entirely new movesets for this game which many of them include jumping because they jump a double jump which means like for example the dual swords or that maybe it's the regular ninja sword has a launcher okay didn't have a fucking launcher before now it has a launcher so you lose your stances in ninja mode but you gain access to completely new movesets because i'm a big on kusari gamma love that shit dope as hell i was using that for a while yeah um and the rate of range doesn't hurt but not having i guess the three stars three stances of it would be feels like a little more limiting plus i kind of would still want heavier spells for other stuff so i'd like a samurai using that weapon was not bad for me but i guess if this is like do more stealth play it's used no it's it's a it's a different like moveset like it's a unified kusari gami moveset that has all of the abilities that it used to have the special ones integrated into its basic one but it also has weird ninja shit so for example the ninja moveset has enemy step okay which is not something okay yeah yeah okay because i so i was gonna say like i guess this is a bit like you know rocking a great sword or doing a dex build you know but like the other thing is that now you you have access to um like say i was running odachi and kusari gama i now have odachi with high medium and low stance and all of its moves and kusari gama with all of the unique ninja moves and ninja skills like shuriken and bombs and caltrops and shit like that and you now also get to equip soul cores that drop from monsters in the yin or yang area and if you equip them in the yin they become the old omnospels which are um like fucking buff your attack or shoot shockwaves out of your goddamn swords or cure poison and if you equip them on the yang equipment they become summons like goddamn elden ring oh shit okay spirit ashes so uh they're not around for long they only do like one or two attacks but you can use them a bunch of times wow and you might think wow what with all this goddamn shit the equipment nightmare must be completely out of fucking control no so you click in right you click in r3 on um samurai and it goes what agility what role do you want and you go i want the b level role and it goes okay and it auto-equips every single item in your inventory to hit the b roll and it and it factors in set bonuses so like i was looking at a weapon and i'm like why is it equipping this weapon even though this weapon is weaker than the other odachi and it's because the set bonus it has with the other totals you out system automatically equipped fucking amazing okay until like new game plus okay is whatever um just just keep using it okay so hold up also have auto item pickup on and then you go into the options and have auto dismantle or auto sell everything that's white or uh yellow or white so j only keep blues and then i went to the hub and walked up and walked up to the full transmog yeah yeah yeah yeah just said and it wasn't like hey do you want to transmog this this you know sword onto this sword it's like you have picked up this sword you can now choose to make and anything look like it yeah yeah yeah yeah do you have you picked up this helmet you can now just automatically just have that be your cosmetic helmet forever okay if you're doing this and you have two sets of of moves and armor and weapons and everything though when you're building your stats when you're leveling up if i'm building a strength build for like my heavy sword but then my ninja weapon is something else completely different it uses different stats that's a good point that you're making that's such a good point then what do you do so when you're what you remember back in the year one and two it was on like heart we would say like good for odaches or whatever right yes but it was right so now there's a there's a picture of every weapon in the game in a little box underneath your stats and the ones you have equipped are highlighted in red and when you are on a stat all the weapons that benefit from that stat are yellow so you can look at the little red highlights and then go oh these are the stats that i should use but you know what will be if you fucked up that's fine click in r3 on the stat page and it just instantly refunds every stat point you've used in the game to be used at any time from literally the very first shrine in the game same thing with all of the skill points respect is completely free it's completely instantaneous and free jeez and you know what will you know what will you wow let's say let's say you have your whole build built up for like double swords but you found like an odachi you really want but you don't want to change your build well if you find an odachi that's plus one you can use uh i to uh materials you have from dismantling stuff and just go in and just change the three stats it scales with yeah drop down menu just say i wanted to scale with magic and skill and heart so every time you sit at a at a bonfire basically you can just build another character just redo the whole fucking thing wow these games are nuts oh my god wow they just do it okay and and like it's also like it's everything that those other other games had and now they are also adding in like a full extra ring of skills on every single weapon and yada yada but like more important than all of that and like this is this really mattered to me a lot when you start the game they give you hey what weapon do you want you pick a weapon right and they go what ninja weapon do you want and you pick a weapon right and then they don't let you unlock the stances for hours like you're stuck on medium stance for multiple hours and you have to choose to unlock it out of the skill tree and that change alone meant i could focus on learning how to fucking play neo hours instead of the moveset being like too much like to take in because like flux which is switched stances on on key pulse is one of the first things that are unlocked in those other games and it adds like a lot of mental pressure so okay i didn't mind it but what i ended up doing was i would basically like get the three stand like i'd lab the moveset and go all right i'm gonna probably stick with this one with this weapon most of the time you know and and like and i like occasionally you might be like oh this is good for this situation but i would just kind of like go this this sword this dance and then i'm forgetting the others you know um but yeah okay that's right that's not a solidifies it uh when you're unarmed are you unarmed samurai or unarmed no there's there's a fist weapon but there's no like unarmed and the fist weapon is a part of the samurai yeah it's a say it does the fist weapon is the samurai keeps all the three stances yeah okay okay um on top of that so i've been playing the demo it i have let's see uh one uh one hour two three and a half five and a half seven and a half hours on the neo three demo uh i beat it at like one thirty in the morning last night oh yeah you're playing a demo so this is all like not even full game yeah okay it's so it's one of those demos that is like the first bit of the full game right um and uh the demo is too like i did all the activities on it i did um all that stuff took me about eight hours which is pretty extreme um i also missed things there's some collectibles that i i missed out on as well as um there's a type of weapon you okay so the the map structure is open like elden ring right uh and it includes little little areas that you would like you know just wander around in monsters and hidden caves and shit like that right um so what they do is remember how annoying finding kodamas and collectibles in the air were like it was kind of a nightmare a lot of the time so say you find a kodama you find it and then it says exploration level increased and the map is designated into these smaller zones and as you find hidden bosses as you find little challenge gauntlets as you find the kodama guys to get more uh health at the shrines your exploration level goes up and goes up and goes up and at level one uh it's nothing at level two it shows you the terrain of the whole map at level three it shows you all of the activities on the whole map and at level four it shows you all the collectibles on the whole map so the first entrance into any given area is i'm wandering around and just doing whatever and then i'll wander around and do whatever and then i'll unlock the full terrain and then i'll see there's a town there there's a tower there there's this and then i'll do that and then it'll go oh there's a gauntlet you missed over here and there's a spirit vein you missed over there and then i do that and do that and then by the end of that process i will have gotten 60 70 of the zone and then it pops and goes okay there's a kodama you missed here there's a boss you missed here there's that and it just flows really well and then you go into your neo's legacy dungeon equivalent which is called a crucible and uh it is it is a the dungeons have unique mechanics associated with them which is enemies do permanent life damage on hit in the legacy dungeon equivalent wow okay um they're much more complicated and on top of that there's weapons you can only get out of them which are called sorry crucible weapons i'll get to that in a second which are unique weapons that have moves you can only learn off the weapons like the specific yeah so like the sam regular ass samurai samurai sword has a move called severing spin where you do a bunch of sword moves and then sheath it and the judgment cut comes out all around your character and you can only learn that by using that weapon until familiarity is maxed and then it will be unlocked for everything forever which might have been a random drop weapon yeah they're random drops yeah oh my oh geez okay that does not sound good actually that sounds kind of terrifying oh it's awesome i got like i got like 30 of them from one run of the dungeon and then once you but they're rng yeah i mean because we're talking about the part of the game you hate it as much was just picking up all the the different basic dealing with the equipment no the the pro the the the the the dealing with the equipment is the part that always bothered me was not getting cool items the problem i always have with the equipment is going into the equipment screen and loading up your entire build per piece per weight per passive it's okay infuriating okay right but when you're talking about a weapon that drops as a giant red icon next to it that says this has a new move you haven't learned yeah that's cool okay i i mean i'm just thinking of well in most cases a lot like like you know even playing fucking transformers platinum where it's like here's the purple optimus prime gun and and sit and i'm like yeah i so if one run of that dungeon i got um like almost i want to say it's 15 to 30 i didn't count them of these things that covered like dozens of different moves and that was in like the the natural trip okay okay because i i didn't i i've never had any like i said when we're talking about neo and then pre-preview and stuff like i'm like i'm totally fine with most of those systems i just was able to not give a fuck about a bunch of the extra features but as soon as i know there's a unique move on a unique weapon that you have a chance of finding but you might not it makes it puts all the little wrong goblins into activated mode where i go oh come on now multiple of each weapon and each of them had a different move associated with them okay actually learning and locking those moves would probably take a while okay because i'm thinking like if i'm someone who's like i guess i like my kusari gamma and if there's a particularly cool kusari gamas move i want to pick uh do i have to go farm for that you know or is it uh no no it's the opposite it's the opposite thing is you go through the dungeon and you end up with a massive glut of new moves you can learn okay you're like cool which one okay as long as you don't look up what are all the crucible moves for kusari gamma right okay i want that one you're completely fine because you'll just get a bunch of them as the game goes on but if you look up on the wiki what are all the crucible moves for kusari gamma and go oh man i desperately want the hook and catch or whatever the fuck it would be called and then like be upset that you don't get it for the whole game that would be disastrous okay because i'm just i'm thinking of like elden ring ashes essentially but just um what if you didn't always find the one in the in the place that you're you know what i mean because like sometimes sometimes you yeah you get a good drop from a good enemy or whatever but a lot of the time you're like no well i found fucking um bloodhound step here and did this or whatever the case is so okay um so uh the game is nonsense okay yeah yeah yeah and the story is like crazy nonsense and you're playing as your own character again right like we're done with your own character we're done with uh william fully forever you're done with the onigai now you're playing uh the the heir to the tokugawa shogunate toku now off betrays you okay your brother betrays you and goes to kill you and for some reason you travel like it's 50 years back into the past uh and then the different open worlds will be different time periods okay look i know i was i was given explicit permission by chat and everybody to just skip uh from where i was in neo one to the future and yeah i kind of was like but i just want to know one what the what what is even going on with the rest of the story and two if there's any cool bosses towards the end of the game i was like i was kind of like what if there's some cool bosses towards so i was really riding through neo one and i ended up putting it down for about a year now and i'm like yeah throw that shit away play oh yeah it doesn't matter each game doesn't require the last game all of them feature time travel to some degree no wait two and three have time travel bro here's what happened in neo three okay your brother betrays you and tries to kill you because he wants to be the shogun and you travel back in time and your your little cat guy says huh weird we must have traveled back in time and then i went on social media after i beat the demo and was like why did we travel back in time and no one has an answer for me okay it's not clear from the from the entire demo area as to why you would even travel back in time it doesn't matter it's to see a bunch of historical japanese figures be cool boss fights yeah no and i kind of that's it like i just i you know i was kind of like just i'm like okay let me just hang on let me see i'll eventually i'll see some cool yasuke shit you know get that bear out and so on um and i was i was chipping away at it in the background you know like i wouldn't always bring it up to talk about but i was kind of like going back giving it a little bit but like i mean am i blow am i going just play this one if you want to am i going right past two straight here i mean like yeah why not why not these are no seriously these are very iterative games yeah yeah no i know i know and i love everything about kind of suck ass what i've touched i also had a wonderful experience playing the demo and then i'm like playing the demo and i look over and koai tecmo america is in the chat and like yo and i'm like yo and they're like sent you a code check your dm oh okay and i'm like yo oh okay okay i guess tonight and tomorrow and wednesday i'm gonna be playing the full game past the demo before the game comes out save file twitch dot save file continues preserved yeah okay uh good shit make sure to go down to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at youtube.com slash pat stairs it's gonna be nine p.m pacific tonight uh it's gonna be tomorrow afternoon before fall out and it's gonna be uh thursday uh well the daily game launches will be going forward and playing the full game of neo three yo koai tecmo america yo more more like yo someone says isn't that just spoiling it for anybody who wants to buy it i mean you don't have to watch if you don't want to also i have a it's fucking neo though man i have a i have a i have a really i'm gonna look into the camera so i have my embargo details about how far i can play up to right before the full launch of the game i have a sneaking suspicion that game is disgustingly massive and most of that is based off of the eight hour demo they put out that's fucking huge hey you jumping on a horse or anything for that open world no you just run faster you you unlock the ability to narrative run okay like you run and then after a little bit you start running really fast in your narrative running oh um um night rain just puffing it yeah absolutely um so the demo is available now if you want to play it the demo is super weird the demos progress carries over to the to the full game and if you beat the final boss of the demo you get a guaranteed item in the full game that would otherwise be a rare drop uh i beat the final boss of the demo on my first try because i'm fucking awesome and i need to go make fun of kz about it actually because they said that people who said that boss was easier insane and i beat it on my first fucking try so ha i guess i'm nuts um so progress carries over the demo will go away on february 15th 10 days after the game's launch who and if you boot the real game and it reads your save file once the demo will lock itself out for you forever ever which is super fucking weird that's funny super strange that's funny okay not gone fuck you um uh but the demo is huge it is it is like a full like it's a short full game okay it's awesome and you can go back and farm your shit to your heart's content for like crucible weapons or new moves or whatever the fuck you want okay so i can i can lay down my fomo of everything i wanted to know about the the you know the the ride up to to this point but what will still suck i guess is if there are really fucking sick boss fights that are at the end of one or during two you know to not get to experience those right your your your particular encounters so there's two things one is they have a strong tendency to reintegrate boss fights from the old games into new games i was gonna say elton similar to how fra from software yes yes elton gives you the latest iteration of this type of boss fight here's the two v one the second of which specifically for two is that two because of the way the stances gotten like cut down in neo three neo two actually gets to continue to exist as still totally worth it if you want to play full blown like double swords or krasari gamma or whatever because the like that moves that no longer exists okay neo three okay on top of that like while there are really cool sick bosses that are unique to each game for example in neo one you fight i forget his name but something hayabusa and then neo two you fight i believe it's his son something hayabusa and i have a sneaking suspicion that in three you will be fighting another hayabusa and they have the moveset that you think they will fucking have and you can learn that moveset like on the ninja sword thing in in neo three yeah yeah i can swallow and you've got izuna drop uh i the ninja guide in izuna drop it's the same animation i think the dude's name was yaiba actually um okay wow just like genuinely skip straight to three okay okay okay more go back to two nobody is ever telling me to go back to one one has god awful enemy variety just terrible yeah yeah you know i again i was i was i was having fun it was it was but at this point the age is is going to show for sure but yeah neo three is cool i also got it for free so take that into account but my positive opinions were from before i got it for free very important to know uh and join me tonight in seven hours on twitch.tv slash pester's at youtube.com slash pester's at i will playing pass the demo into the full game until i hit the embargo stopping point um and then there will be a soul stopping point at some point in the full game whereas you're like okay and you can put that down for a bit because that's how neo does it really yeah a little bit um but hey for me cool the answer to elden ring that's that's that's uh it's it's elden ring for sicko freaks um um and it really feels like sicko freak like just every single screen is just exploding with text and information and i just want them to make another stranger a paradise like this fucking game that'd be awesome. Going down this alt path souls ip like and like no one gives a fuck about the story or what's happened or why and item descriptions couldn't get any further from like like from from analyzing every little paragraph on every sword you pick up to just throw all that out i just want a sheet of numbers when i put this motherfucker yeah you pick up pick up one of the things that i stick and look at the stats on it is that when i time traveled in neo three um your little dude sees an army like takeda's army and he goes oh that's weird that's takeda's army but they were defeated long ago and because i'm not a warring states massive nerd i didn't understand that he meant that this specific army and guy were killed long ago i thought he meant oh this regional army had lost a battle in the past and it was like a while before i realized that we had actually traveled back in time know who any of these famous characters are okay so these games are not all just different angles of hideyoshi nobunaga and and so on and so forth and they are a little bit okay are a little bit okay like in neo two you end up cross sectioning parts of neo one it's mitzuhide there he is you're like dancing around the neo one and two timelines by going to different time periods okay okay um this is the perfect place to start to start the neo franchise yes and you're in you're in z pangu the whole time yes you're in z pangu the whole time absolutely uh so what i need to talk about is the dub the dub is the best dub i've ever heard in my life i would never i would never change it off to japanese in mustay english um they're all very british like we got irish welsh all sorts of things um no one has been briefed on how to say even a single word in japanese um many of them have not been briefed on how to say words in english hell yeah there's a there's a location called a crucible and the characters pronounce pronounce it crucible and there's a material called crucianation or something it's yeah yeah yeah yeah good good good good good good good good good good strong strong strong it's it is god awful finally some good fucking food it's so good it's so good awful crucianite crucianite that's it yeah the crucianite from the crucible to upgrade your crucible weapons these are words said by actors it's okay awesome okay i gotta take a quick break this guy needs some food b r b talk about the caboose obviously yeah i'm gonna see if i can adjust my lighting for now that the sun has gone down it's i maybe i can make it hell in here we'll find out i can see the back of your head dude yeah it's the hello it's just weird whatever it's fine later yeah bye bye for now all righty quick word from our sponsors i love sponsors uh sponsor this week uh the podcast is sponsored by ray con and yeah that's uh that's just some good everyday earbuds can make in their way over to you uh what do you got in particular with the super bowl and the winter olympics this month no time to get no better time to get 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um 2026 stated the game industry report finds that according to a GDC survey 33% of the respondents were laid off over the last two years that's cool that's cool a solid third I talked about this in the in the reddit thread uh that was on the subreddit about this where p like when's the crash and video game's gonna happen i'm like we covered it we talked about layoffs for like 70 podcasts in a row friend friend i would like you to stand up where you are as you listen to this uh look outside and just look around that that's the crash you're standing in it it is in the room with you right now you are breathing in the video game industry crash as we speak actually little did you know um yeah so um I admittedly the uh the the headline is the headline is like a a bit not misleading but it does imply that like the this is speaking of the whole thing but it's more like the people that answered the survey that were 23 000 people that they asked of the 23 excuse me sorry 2300 people that they asked a third of them were laid off over the last two years so that's the state of affairs and this is fairly large as a sample size it is and it's and this is like again just people attending GDC right including people in the industry that are currently not employed that are still showing up so if that's people attending GDC that means the actual number is significantly higher because many people who have been laid off cannot go to GDC because they are broke in fact most of the time when I know people that do go to GDC that's that is something that is afforded by the company that they work for um but yes that is uh one of the things they were able to get from that survey so hey guess what as we describe it every week um the least just a it's a slow boring burning implosion of the industry a third of the folks are uh yeah laid off in the past few years and then the second piece of information that came from this survey was um the change in how the discussion on AI of course um feels to people in the industry so everyone's favorite favorite technological innovation they asked people at working in the video game industry a couple years ago last year and then this year how do you feel about AI and uh hey guess what over 50 percent of game developers think it's a bad idea and uh way up over last year and the sentiment I'd rather quit the industry than use generative AI on the rise so when you just want to talk about the numbers um what do we got here get higher so high we only AI more uh yep so it's a robot it doesn't have feelings and neither do the CEOs behind it it's funny enough um what percentage we're currently using uh gen AI in their work 33 percent the exact percentage of people that were laid off in the last two years uh interesting on that that's short-sighted uh 52 percent of the 2300 respondents said they think it has a negative impact on the industry um compared to two years ago that number was 18 percent and last year it was 30 percent so the mood is clearly moving in a direction and then in the opposite opinion those that believe gen AI is good for the industry uh last year it was 13 percent this year it's 7 percent and then when it comes to the people the roles of the of the people and devs that are responding here uh the people least likely to approve are who you'd expect so artists designers writers programmers you know aka the people who make the video game and uh the people who are more likely to use it are the upper management at 47 percent using tools more than the lower decks etc so uh hey would you look at that um the CEOs and the management are much much much more likely to uh be approving of and to use AI than the employees they hire and literally everyone that actually makes the things that you play if only there was an incredibly clear concrete reason documentation if you would for why we should not listen to anyone high up in a managerial position of any company you mean just like in general in general like broad broad strokes yeah yeah it's a bummer well in unrelated news um hey did you know that the financier jeff ebsti you know that you know that the new york financier yeah that guy you know you know you know what's up with him you'll never guess what he's been up to what what's he been up to he got banned from xbox live he got banned for xbox live got banned from xbox live for what uh initially it said harassment but then it turns out it's because he was on the no no list and uh once you're on the no no list that gets you banned from xbox live oh okay yeah the financier you know it's weird you know it's really strange i don't know if you knew this uh in fact i tested your knowledge about this before we started the podcast and i know you don't know this but did you know that uh jeff rey i've seen the the the new york financier yeah uh actually had a friend high up in a bunch of game companies and he could have probably gotten unbanned if he felt like it really he could have just he could have just called a friend it turns out he was buddies with friend of the show bobby caudick no shots and in 2013 he was the one who convinced bobby caudick to go super hard on activision's microtransactions you don't say that's financier new york financier i'm all into making an economy for children you know yeah when i did not think there would be a legitimate like one to one podcast topic that would be appropriate for this subject but turns out jeffree eppstein invented the microtransaction economy for video games i mean bonelisa painting of all the dlc cut out yeah yeah that's an etsy original i uh we tend to stick to video game evil you know um well this is some pretty big video game evil i i just like everything that's crazy that's crazy it's a lot huh video games i mean i just there's so much that's straight that like i wow that is one subject that i never would have thought uh would point all the way back to jeff eppstein the financier um the new york financier yeah that that subject in particular that one topic uh i never would have imagined that he was the mastermind behind that that's crazy so at this point honestly woolly if there's something that bothers you just just tippa tappa and it's probably in this whoo well um yeah i that's incredible that's that's that's quite that's wild we are it's on the nose for the show isn't it it's a little bit on the nose a little bit um 2013 when video games just started to get like worse and worse and more fucked up with the microchip wow it's crazy it was good old jeff eppies i wonder how many other things can be tracked right back to that same source you know it's it's uh i think that's a that's a topic for a completely different podcast oh boy yeah i mean who knows i don't anyway let me just um move the fucking string cork board from out of the shot and onto the floor over here i mean you don't really need a cork board anymore you just need one big red string you need a browser in fact yes you can you can kind of do that um like punch mom is getting exhausted dude like getting tired of just hearing about it just tired of hearing about it yeah i bet i bet like like some mornings in the middle of breakfast it'll just be like okay what was it this time just just go just spit it out just go all right really bitcoins wow oh man all right um anyway anyway moot anyway um oh no oh you say that point is moot hey that point is moot that's what i was getting at it's a completely moot point listen video games are happening and and and um sometimes instead of you know um while you're while your company is just being burnt to the ground uh it's really easy if it would be nice let's say you had about you know a couple employees and you were trying to fire them but the place that you uh you know are set up makes it difficult to do that you can darn oh how about a quit fire yourself employment contract everybody to how about how about how about if ubi soft can get about 200 employees at the paris hq to agree to a negotiated termination contract they don't have to then lay them off the traditional way and it makes it a lot easier on fucking strike there in paris no but if you listen on a voluntary basis you let yourself out you you you you self you know terminate from ubi soft um and and then you know for redundant for for economic reasons i just searched ubi soft paris strike call goes out for massive international strike at ubi soft due to five separate unions in france ratcheting up the pressure yeah no you can't tell you the fresh i i mean i again for every time we've talked about like the the labor laws in europe and and how that fucks up what a company like ubi soft would love to do um as they do over here in north america uh you get these types of weird stories where ubi begs employees to please quit actually if you wouldn't mind you know if if it would please you if if it would please you could you please maybe leave please you know that boy yeah yeah it's it's it's the funny part is that let's say you're like you're like many that would be like fuck that right i'm getting because they're trying to make them incentive obviously just imagine the motivation being at a company that was like hey could you please quit and you're like not fuck that and then just just the the the vibe you know of like okay so let's be real you're gonna be grabbing your resume anyways as you watch the flames around you you know but in the meantime get your fucking benefits get what get what you are entitled to uh you know please quit how about you please suck my ass fuck you bitch uh what if we gave you what if we gave you a uh limited edition copy of beyond good and evil two if you quit is that what you gave you one of these for those of you at home we're not watching i'm holding up my middle finger outstretched this is just a lot god damn yeah man it's it's getting desperate out there it's getting pretty rough but anyways whatever moving on with that there's some there's some other you know like what you when you want to talk about the ebbs and flows of the industry you can just do it the classic kg unifune style and just have your entire company you get fucking fired well concept has dissolved like kg unifune did at the end of that kickstarter for mighty number nine it has faded away full opacity in fact that it concept died two weeks ago and we just found out about it so there's something a little appropriate to that because instead of exploding into a bunch of blue balls going it just kind of that's too much dignity for him it went it just faded to 0% yeah he doesn't have the the he doesn't have the right to die like a hero like mega man and and really like are you gonna try like what power do you get from from the die from dying concept oh no mega man's in jail oh no i took credit for things i didn't do did it did it did it did it er um anyways there you go on that one it seems like it seems like meanwhile on the other side over here the guard nutters have been listening oh have they they have been listening and they heard heard. Those on high have heard the cries of the guard nutters and they have released a goddamn. They have released a five V five mode for high guard. Limited time. It's limited time. Well, limited time, limited time. The game was not the game was not designed for five players. It was designed for three V three. Definitely, definitely limited time. Four days after launch, people were like, what the fuck? And they're like, yeah, yeah, we know, here you go. And there's a five V five mode. I'm curious to know, does it make it make any more sense? Does it help fucking bet? It's better. I would love to know if it if it, you know, makes a difference. It feels like a more populated map would help, certainly. If you're on board with the concept and you want to have more fights regularly and you want those modes to just be a little less dry, you know, two extra people could certainly help. I'm not a developer. I have not made a video game. I feel like kicking the roster of a multiplayer game up by four people, but up up like 40%. In like five days means that they were ready to do this beforehand. Just in case I would, I would put money down on a table that someone on the inside was like, just needs to be fucking five and got out voted or out authority. I will, I will say I'll take that good money and I will raise it and say somebody on Wednesday walked into the office and before they even got their coffee when I fucking told you so. They walked right in. They kicked the, they kicked the snow off their boots. They walked right in to an office in a glass room, shut the glass door and went, I fucking told you so. And then yeah, the thing that was already here that the switch, they flipped the switch and then they said, let's see what happens. I bet it's, I bet it's better. I also, I bet it has its own database of bugs because it's not the intended mode. It wasn't tested. Like someone in the chat right now says the introduction screen doesn't work properly for 5v5 because it only shows you three of the five players. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Exactly. You know, but they had that flipped switch. They just, that was so fast. It was crazy. And time limited because what you're doing is you're QA the feature. Yeah. Well, that's, that's, I think, I think putting out modes and calling them time limited and then seeing how they work is like the funniest, outrageous, frustrating lie. Remember when zero build for fortnight was like, it's a limited mode, limited time, limited time, limited time this season. You gotta get in right now. It's like, okay, well, no, that's just mode. Meanwhile, apex says, Hey, we've heard you guys say that you want solo Q here. So Q is a limited mode and you know, maybe no, it is limited. We've decided that the only way you want to play this game is wrong. Um, I have to, I have to imagine apex. I have to imagine that basically there's like, Hey, we're going to see if everyone shift is the server cost for like doing a parallel thing. Is there enough people on this as a popular enough? If so, then fuck it, make it permanent, etc. But yeah, I, you know what, I'm going to fucking, I'm going to, I'm going to throw a wild prediction out there and say that, um, if I roll a d 20, like 14 of those sides are going to say that this game shuts the fuck down. But if it doesn't, if it doesn't, the six remaining sides say that this game gets iterated to be a lot better in a year and a half's time through just trying shit out and warping the entire design of the game as like life. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, I have my own dice. Okay. And my dice similarly says, uh, it's a 14 sides out of 20 is that it'll shut down. And the remaining six say it will be shut down next year. Okay. Shut down now versus shut down in a bit. Yeah. Okay. I see. I see. Yeah, that's slightly different by, but you know, slightly different. Speaking of, uh, time limited gaming, you know, you want to talk about games that you only had a particular window of time to play. Final Fantasy 11 in the news this week, uh, because that thing, which just keeps on trucking, it would never die. Kind of incredible. Um, there is a hell of an awesome bug that has happened where, um, okay. So let me try to get these details right. Did you hear about this? The, uh, the Limbus region, uh, notorious monsters. Um, so yeah, so there are chests in the, in an area of the game that, uh, they populate with, um, in a way that is, that gets better drops for everybody if the notorious monsters in the area are killed by this players, you know, on the server. And, there has been a, uh, weird bug that has resulted in some monitorious monsters repopulating before the month that they're supposed to be gone for is up. And as a result, the loot in said chests is getting worse for everybody. Um, and it's not their players fault because they did the job. They killed the monster, et cetera. But the communal loot economy is getting fucked up because the monsters are considered alive when it comes to the game. So, um, they have put in a fix to address the issue, uh, in the next month, but in the meantime, in order to ensure that the loot chests, uh, don't get fucked up, they're dispatching all the GMs, the judges in the game to personally go to the notorious monsters and kill them to make sure they stay dead in a like almost lore like quest. The GMs have to go to each one and kill them themselves personally. What a fucking cool piece of like lore bug fixing. It's my favorite shit. Yeah, it's MMO strange behavior is always super fun. Like 14 had that rock that people would pilgrimage to because the texture was bad. And there was recently like an unnamed antelope in a forest, sorry, in a frozen zone that people what started making fan art. Awesome. Because they were clearly broken and weren't supposed to be there. Like I'll write in, in writing reply to like the announcement of like this happening on the FF11 account, just a quote tweet of like the judge from the back walking towards a bunch of notorious monsters to fucking clean them out, you know, gut style. Um, that's cool as hell. And you kind of want to be like, yo, can you say when you're going to be there so that people can go watch? And also, can it not just be you pressing the kill button, but actually having a fight? Because that'd be fucking sick. Because if it's actually just like, okay, teleport dead teleport, then it's how many GMs are depends how many, how many of these there are depends how much time they have. Yeah. And look, you're doing your job and you got a lot of servers to get through. I understand if it's just like, all right, let me see if I can clear five of these in like 10 minutes or whatever. But you know, like just just make it a moment, man, go in and fucking fight it for a second, have people watch that shit and do cool stuff that only the judges can do. Anyway, that's cool. I love those stories. You know, and speaking of a good old wholesome MMO story. Other, you know, like FF 11 has been around for a long time. Other old MMOs that have been around for a long time include things like ashes of creation. Nope. What happened? Why? Oh, they didn't work very hard on it. They just kept taking money. So full disclosure, I had no idea what this was until I heard about it being dead. And that's the whole story, by the way. Yeah. And what I just told you the whole that's the whole thing. But like the background is that like it was around for years as a fucking MLM scheme game where you gave money for a long time ahead of time, decade of development. And now it's a few days out of being, I guess, officially, whatever it was a released and then immediately just shut the fuck down after being a Kickstarter MMO for a decade. And it's like the people that have been tracking it are talking about how like not only was it like a scam from the jump and it wasn't barely playable, but they like squeezed like the last bitch bit of cash out of everybody that they could right before taking the money and ran, you know. Like I have a problem with this this model in that there's a version of this that exists in the in fighting games, right? There's a couple of fighting games out there that use. Scams. So the perpetually funded indie project, right? There's a couple of there's a couple of fighting games out there that you see some cool videos from time to time. And some of them are legit like interesting looking fighting games. But what the deal is is that they are projects that are being made by usually like one person or so. But they've been in development for about 10 years, sometimes, you know, eight to 10 years, they've been Patreon projects that people have had to pay monthly to get access to play. And the development has essentially been going on for so long that the person creating it has no incentive to ever finish the project. It's a paycheck that they can pay their rent with and live off of if they ever end up releasing the game, they make sales off of that. But it's way more lucrative in the moment to just keep the project going and have people pay every month for it. So this game that you'd pay your 30 bucks for or whatever becomes a game you pay 300 for over the course of many years, you know, and it's like, I know like some of them are, you know, some people have good standing with the community and others are a little more sketchy. So I look into a bunch of these things whenever I want to play a game for, you know, getting to fighting games or back as the day for Kvistakuffs as well. And it was just like, so if you subscribe to this, like in fucking 2014, and you were giving it like $3 a month or $5 a month to get access to the game. Now you've got like a couple more characters, but it's nowhere near close to being finished. And you've paid how much money for this game? It's so crazy. And then of course you lose access if you're not an active subscriber to it, you know, I'm like, yeah, this is the MMO equivalent of that. It's just like, anyway, MMOs are the single worst potential game to Kickstarter. They require like the most massive amount of labor and resource possible. And they have like the longest tail for return on investment. It's the craziest, craziest shot. I can only think of one crowdfunded MMO that I've ever heard anyone talk nice about. Let me just check to make sure it's Kickstarter. Like, yeah, you're going to kickstart the ongoing server costs of multiple servers for fucking years on end, really? Is Atlas a Kickstarter game? I can't figure it out. Or is it just a, or is it just an early access game? Either way, man. Anything that just refuses to have an endpoint, you know, is like... Okay, then I don't know of any that are Kickstarter MMOs that work. And like, and the thing is too, is like, okay, if the, what I was describing was like a Patreon scheme. So it's kind of like, that's a dark pattern in the sense that you're like, okay, you subscribed and maybe you forgot about this, maybe whatever, but it's been just deducting automatically. We're a Kickstarter scheme like this. You have to come back and give an update and go, hey guys, we hit our goal, but we ran out of money. Can you give us some more please? You know, we have some new stretch goals or whatever the fuck, right? Yeah, that's just fucking, that's crazy. There was an aspect of this too, where, yeah, like, yeah, content creators got a cut or so or something like that, when you've got people to sign up as affiliates or so. So like, you also like, we're propagating an MLM in the meantime, you know. Oh, yeah, our pieces, pieces are clicking together a little bit. I see. I remember seeing people that I thought would know better, like, shilling this game super hard. Oh, you got a cut out. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Take the money and run. Good stuff. All right. The only other thing of note there. Just yeah, no, shout outs to it, actually. So Foxcaped just put out the fucking The Devil May Cry anime video. And it's a solid two and a half hour chunk, breaking it all down. And it's a good one. Solid. First part of that is just reviewing the anime through thoroughly, including quotes from yours truly and yourself. You know, there's a couple of clips here and there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're up. We're in there. We're in there. Oh, yeah, I like, do I look smart? Yeah, actually, you're the opening salvo. You know, I haven't watched it yet because I need a proper three hour chunk of time. Yes, yeah. Hit it. No, like the opening montage, it just fucking cuts to us and like you yelling at the scene, you know, when we had the DMC talk. It's not good. No, good shit. First hour breaking down just of the anime thoroughly. And then the second part just breaking down what the fuck a producer actually is, you know, stands around while people do real work or or they micromanage all parts of the project to make sure they have enough money to do everything. One of the two. Exactly. Congratulations. You've nailed it. Right. The red and stumpy explanation or the holy shit this needed a producer this needed fucking limits on it for or it's never coming out. And then my favorite part of every video essay is when I hear the line, I technically now have a production credit on Fox Cades Devil May Cry. Are you a producer? Wow. Production credit. Yeah. Bound out that I was in it. So I have a production credit. There's a clip. There's a clip from Red Letter Media where they're counting the number of executive producers in the intro to some movie and they're at like 23, you know, at a certain point. Shit's hilarious. It's literally just called the Netflix Devil May Cry video from the visionary mind of Addy Shankar. But no, my favorite part of any video essay is when there's a pause, a fade to black and then a. Okay, so when I originally started writing this video, you know, the classic, this is where the ending should have been. But you know, so yeah, go check that out. I'd say it's the it's the definitive edition of everything. The last word on that that anime series and the last word on anything. Until the next season. Until the next season. So I don't need to watch trash that I know is going to be trash to know, to understand. I have better uses of my time. And I'm going to say that the week before it on the podcast that I'm going to come back having watched the whole thing because I literally won't be able to help myself because you need to complain. You need to know. You need to know. Disability and it's called I love complaining. Okay, well, look, let me let me fucking hear that and reinforce your your ground, sir. You and I are uniquely positioned on this internet to speak on it. All right. There are times weird. When did that happen? There are times. Listen, in the culture, there are times when you got to speak on it. And when it comes to Devil May Cry, Castle Super Peast is uniquely positioned to speak on it. I feel like an authority on Devil May Cry. That seems like a weird thing to say, right? Like I don't I don't feel like we're important to the culture of Devil May Cry. But then I keep like that I see that the subreddit is the second most popular subreddit for talking about Devil May Cry. Lot of the only one that actually goes into a depth on a bunch of things. We had we had a bunch of friends who were all super into that shit when it was popping off back in the day when it first came out. And we're like, yo, these games are great. But they're not super popular, but they're fucking cool. If you know, then you know. And then as time has gone on, that group has gone smaller and smaller and smaller until like the people that do fucking know or did find out a lot found out through this through line, right? And then the franchise came back and was awesome and exploded. And then people were like, oh, fuck, oh, shit. And then we're going back to be like to find places where it was talked about in the past. And guess what? Guess who never shut the fuck up about those games? Ty. It's us. We're the problem. Hi, Blorb, you know, so yeah, how I felt when I was going through Silent Hill F. And I did all the side hill F. And I kept getting comments being like, you're the only person I can find that did all of the endings. Like how am I the only person that did all the endings? That's it. It's just it's just like 45 hours of Silent Hill. Dude, I told you the other day, like I have no mouth and I'm a scream popped off for no reason on the internet all of a sudden. Because of the digital circus, the amazing circus just fucking, you know, and then it was like, what is this? And all of a sudden that becomes relevant again. Like, yeah, it's just one of those things. So yes, when season two drops, don't worry, you don't have to make excuses for not holding yourself back or whatever, because people need to know. And not to mention to you have a duty to report, especially since and I will not be convinced on this that I believe that there are characters that appear to reference two best friends play in that that initial first season. I feel like it's there. There is a there is a thought that you were crazy when you said that. And I have come to maybe, maybe think you were not as crazy with the guy that looks just like Max and the guy that has Matt's hat on. There's like your guy that looks like my old art. There is a guy that looks like there's a black dude named Pat and there's a dude with a Punisher skull headband on in that Captain Commando team. I don't know. It's it's a little self important conceivable. It's a little self important. But then you see the references to other influencers and other YouTube people and you go, you know, you can press X to doubt. I don't blame you if you do. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Right. Right. Right. But it's actually like like that. That changes it. True. Okay. I understand. And therein, that's why it's you've got the reasonable doubt because now Addy can just be like, who the fuck are they? I don't know them. What? Get out of here. You know, but if you went, yo, that shit ruled it was awesome. It was like, yeah, did you did you see what I did? You know, it's yeah, I had a production credit on that show. I don't know if you know that Schrodinger's cameo. Schrodinger's cameo, you know, absolutely. All right, let's take some emails. Hey, if you want to send an email, send it to Castle Super Beast. Almost. Almost Castle Super Beast Mail. Sundowning.com. That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com leaking out the years. One last thing about Neo three. That game assumes you don't know what the fuck Neo one and two even are. Oh, that shit just fucking has nothing to do with shit. Okay, so it really is like a jump in fuck it, whatever. Oh, yeah. Sorry. The new Tekken season. That's yeah, they announced Kunimitsu, Roger Jr. and Bob anymore. I like those characters. That's cool. Yeah, but did they fix all that shit? You know, it's kind of fucked up is there is a video of a modded version of the game where heat wasn't in it and the UI was simplified and it was just people sidestepping and throwing buttons out and like the rest people were crying. They were crying, watching the footage. It was just it was Tekken 8 without heat and with people just doing just pressing buttons and not locking into 50 50s and holy fuck, the tears were flowing gamers cry out for virtual fighter yet they do not know it. What virtual fighter is. Yeah. Yeah, like they earned the children yearn for the virtual fighter that they don't yet know they do they man. And it's anyways, Roger Jr. is a fun pick. Bob's a fun pick. Kunimitsu. Sure. Sure. I like Kunimitsu a lot. She's great. And she specifically doesn't have Tekken lady face. She has a mask, but underneath the mask, she has extremely distinctive makeup. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, true. She looks different. Swap her hair out and confuse her with somebody else. And they say there's a rumor that the fourth character is an original character. And I'm like, good, I would like that school to have a new character. Yeah, you have three returning have something new in there for sure. Original character of guile. Yeah, look, Bob, you gotta have a fucking chow yun fat reference fat fighter, man. That's it's awesome. I feel like, you know, Bob is the the correct Rufus timeline, you know, the you handed me a gun and two bullets. I would shoot. Which I like Bob. I think you're you need a big fat guy like and then mention Rufus. I think you're insane. Rufus is the exception that proves the rule. Rufus sucks so bad. I hate him. I hate the way he plays. I hate the way he sounds. I hate playing against him. Yeah, tell that to the Saturday night slam dutters. Okay. You mean Oh, no. Character invented sucked. Oh, no. Good job getting fucking kicked out of the company. You fucking loser. I also enjoy the concept of a slam dutter. Anyway, America shits it's here. Feels like gilding the lily, you know, it's obvious twice. Yeah, Bob Bob's cool. That's cool. That's that's that's all fine. And as Miguel never because while Miguel should be in the game, he cannot because then he reminds everyone how fucking evil gin is. And that's not that goes against the narrative that we're trying to push right now. Bro, they should just make gin evil. Gin was more fun when he was unless you dedicate a whole new chapter of story DLC to Miguel showing up to the nice little ending that a bow that you've tied and having Miguel untie that bow and going, fuck you, fuck you, you piece of shit. How fucking dare you. You murdered my family. I don't care if the game thinks you're a protagonist. I'm going to fuck you up. His existence undoes the entire plot line for the May for the protagonist. A lot of is morality genetic because like Jin Pachi was like, OK, but he was possessed by demon and hatches evil and cause he is evil. And gin was evil for a bit. And like, I think it's actually really strange that it would be more interesting for gin to also just be evil and rain to everyone's just like just the evil world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's genetic. It's absolutely genetic. And Akuma was right. He's actually the nicest guy. Akuma was doing a favor for a nice lady because I can see I can envision this like third chapter story mode of like, Jin being like, hey, Miguel, you deserve to kill me. So if you want to go ahead and then Miguel does his fucking taught punch and fucking wrecks gin shit. And then he goes, oh, wait, no, fuck, I don't want to die. Oh, shit, let's fight. You know, and then it turns into a battle somehow. But like the levels of like it. What are you going to say? I'm sorry. My bad. Oops. I have I have protagonist light behind me now. So whoopsie doodle. Your family's kaput. You know, anyway, we'll see. You don't get it. I had to beat up an ice dragon for my own personal benefit. And that's why I had to do a world war. And also it didn't work. See, that would be the genesis of like a really, really amazing storyline of like all those people died for Jin to do a plan that didn't work. You got to get around up all the heroes, all the protagonists to have to launch an attack on a hatches balls, the true sorts of the evil. That's what all leads back. Just all the protagonist going. It's the top logo where they stop and go, but both fists are flying towards the hatches balls. It's the only way it's the only way to stop this evil. All right. Castle Super Beast mail at gmail.com. Let's take one from Isaac. A two dudes with the toods. Isaac here, a longtime listener, first time questioner. What's your favorite type of world building in games? For example, I like it when you find a journal or an audio tape or something that talks about how your character is doing in the game, like in the files of the Citadel DLC where Anderson's talking to someone about shepherd. To me, that stuff kind of makes it feels alive outside of your character. Keep on on, keep it on. I think the best world building ever was actually in Mass Effect 2 and it was reading the secret docs on your party and finding out what they were doing on their fucking computers. Oh, that was great. Yeah. Xbox Live Legion and Tally with the fucking nerve stem. That was fantastic. Big, big on that. Also, I mean, and you know what, in Mass Effect also with the Ashley retcon just on the over, you know, hey, animals anyway, am I right? The sum of the strong stuff I think is like the coolest shit ever is. And this is also, I love the type of world building that is only possible with video games as a medium. So like, I love mise en scene shit in movies, you know, Children of Men is my favorite film. Um, in video games, stuff like, uh, you fucking kill the Yarnham giant bore in the sewers and you get a red ribbon. And the only context that can make sense in is it's halfway located between the child in the window and father gas coin. And she was sneaking from this location down to avoid the bullshit on the bridge up here, went down this way and hit a fucking pig. And that was the end of that. And it's like, oh, I gotta agree. That's like the best. I think I holy fuck. That's amazing. Like the item you find in the enemy you find it in, in the location it's placed in, making perfect sense of the scenario and adding all this context you didn't have is the best. Um, and yeah, I have to agree with you. A smaller version of that is, you know, put an expedition 69 in, in, uh, Claire obscure, like the expedition. Right, right, right. Right, right. expedition. Yeah. The ones who are like, Hey, you know those fucking things you've been just absentmindedly climbing on, we died to put those in place. This little yellow pink everywhere. We put them everywhere. We got all of them, dude. After all the shit we talked, could you imagine finding out about the fucking yellow paint brigade that died to get the yellow paint in place? Basically, that's what they are. The Alex Hottles of the world, free soloing every location, putting it in place. And when they reach the limit of their abilities, they're like, well, we're going to die now, but I hope those who come after us can make use of this. Please save the world. Fucking. Oh, love that. That's great. Um, yeah, yeah, let's see. I don't know why it's not, it's not, it's not actually related to the question, but I'm just thinking about spending the whole game in slow motion in vanquish. And then during the final moment, they just fucking cranked all the limiters off and it felt like you were like millhouse playing fucking ghost war. All I did was enter my name. It would only work if you had gotten really good at it over the whole game because if you gave that to somebody at the start, it would be unplayable. Okay, so I know this doesn't happen because I, we played it on the channel the other day and I confirmed it, but in my heart and in my brain, I feel like the FOV got more extreme on the boosts when it happens at the end. Like it doesn't, but I feel like I remember the FOV getting crazier for your boosts at that point as you're zipping around fighting both bogies, you know, like it just, if that, if, and if it doesn't, then it should. Um, because you go, you go fast as fuck. Yeah, I, I don't think, I don't think it happens, but it feels like it does. In the meantime, um, I hate, I hate the internet dude. I just loaded up a video of like, oh, I want to see the final boss fight of the English and I see a guy walking around playing it like a cover shooter. Yeah. I, like the tutorial shows you what's pop. The tutorial shows you what's possible, but it doesn't really emphasize that like, this is how you ought to do it, which is why that game was misunderstood. You know, it was a minor God hand situation on launch there. Um, all right. And let's take one here from Mog Dillon who says, not really a question. Dear Bill S Preston and Theodore Logan, just something I find mind boggling and I wanted to share started playing Eve online a couple of weeks ago. And I have been having a, I've been having a pretty fun time for those who don't know, it's a 23 year old MMO where you fly around space and do space stuff. No, but every time there's stories from it, they're the best though. Space trucking, space mining, space guns, space hacking, mini games, et cetera, the works free to play to an extent, but you can only spreadsheets. You can only do 30% of what's available unless you pay 20 bucks a month for the subscription. Now listen, if you're telling people not to play it, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to, but I want the stories to keep happening. I want to hear about the bank heist that took fucking eight years. Anyone knew to play it. All the people that are already in have to be locked in. Okay. Shut down the new registration. Well, that was that was FF 11 for a minute there. The thing I find so crazy is that I saw about how a particular group of players destroyed the equivalent of 316 billion ISK, the in game currency over the course of a month by via PVP. Using the in game currents, premium currencies called Plex and this loss has calculable real money dollar value. A fraction of what's destroyed may or may not be recovered as loot from someone's wrecked ship. These are noteworthy things, but one thing to note is that PVP is enabled at all times. Some zones in safe and space are safer than others. When your shit gets blown up, you lose all your items and everything that's attached to you of monetary value on death. And so, yeah, it goes on to explain a bunch of more things about it. But essentially, the stat above the 316 billion ISK that were destroyed via PVP, that can be used as currency to purchase premium currency that you use to buy sub time. So it's real money that you use to actually buy extended like time playing the game. If you grind hard enough, you can make enough for a monthly subscription without paying real money dollars. So when they fought their war, they destroyed 11.7 years or 140 months worth of sub time in the process. And it was destroyed by one group of active players. So this is this has been known that they're burning laundered cash essentially. So the note there, I suppose, though, for that I would point out is that like, this is time for the players, whereas the devs, CCP games, they already have the money. You paid them for they're like sick. Yeah, like they burn it. They're money. Their cash money is in the bank in the real world. So have fun burning it all in your, you know, your giant heists or whatever. But they're fine. It's the players that can't cash in on it, you know, darn, they'll just have to buy more. They'll just have to buy more money from me. It's fucking sick. I want to hear more of these stories that I never want to play. All right. And lastly, let's take one over here. Good evening, underhanded, super secret Korean woolly and Monciopat Braban. Until last year, the word mod was banned on the Steam Deck subreddit. This made searching for people who had posted mod tutorials for the Steam Deck really difficult, leading to many wordplay workarounds. This was caused due to criticism of the subreddits head moderator, who in turn banned the word despite its specific relevance to the subreddit. What are some other decisions made by owners mods executives, etc. that hurt the community despite a specific characterization of said community, aka specifically insane insect executive decisions? For me, I feel the one that I never forget that we talked about on the show. There's a couple. There's a couple. The one that I'll come up lately. The one that comes to mind that I remember covering was just the like the haze I felt my brain go into watching as Nintendo told you to pull your phone out and plug your headset into your phone to do voice chat with your friends to connect to your switch. But then you have to get the app and put the voice chat. So make sure your phone's connected to your switch. But then and your headphones are plugged. So you just use a phone call actually with your friends and the phone call will be like Splatoon themed and that's how you do voice chat. That like just so call call your friends is what you're telling me to do Nintendo. What? Give a shout out to that guy on the Silent Hill for Wiki who moderated it for forever to constantly rewrite entries to be about circumcision. I remember this one. Justin Wang has a great video on it. That dude was super nuts. Sometimes, you know, you're you're moderating a subreddit because you're holding this other part of your life back and sometimes you can't hold it back any longer. I'm just sometimes the thing that you are you're holding back breaks containment and seeps into the other thing. You know, and you just feels you know sometimes you just people get weirdly precise with their with their requests and terms and and shit like that, you know. Yeah, I think the other day I there was a person who was just weirdly asking everywhere about pictures of a pregnant cat and they were like, what should I do? My cat's pregnant and whatever. And then some brave soul clicked on the account to just see what else this person was up to. And it seems like posting about just pretending to be pregnant and going through the motions on every possible subreddit they can find is how they passed their time, you know. And specifically not going to the places where other people are looking for that, but going to the places where people are really like genuinely asking questions and pretending to curse me with this knowledge. Like, have I have we all harmed you in some way that you felt the need to put this in our minds? You were born. What did we ever do to you? Asks Jubilee. Oh, that was so good. Never. Never forgot it. Fucking stuck with me, bro. You were born. All right, that'll do. Such an asshole. Yep. And I'll leave you on that note. Bye-bye.