CSB360: Parasite Eve The 3rd Birthday is in the Epstein Files

! Me-ow! We got a big podcast this week. Wow. We do. We do a little bit. We got a lot to cover. Caboose, can you help us with today's podcast? You have nothing to say. Thanks, dog. So do I just got to do the- What's up? What's up, man? Do I got to do the GIF forever? Yeah? Do I have to- What's GIF is that? Do I have to do my GIF? Do I have to- Do I have to bring the camera closer? Yeah, bring the camera right in. Just shut the fuck up, man. Just shut the fuck up! Just stop! Just don't say just- It's so easy to just not fucking- Now, you're doing your desync. I'm doing the desync. Hold on. I'll fix it. I know I got it. I'm gonna do it. I fixed it. Is it fixed now? There we go. Alright. There we go. I fixed it. I'm so smart. It just- It costs nothing. You know, just so you- It costs- Bro, it costs nothing to shut the fuck up. That's it. That's all. That's it! You know, when it comes to just who's meowing and mugetics, it's like, okay, if you recorded a bunch of shit ten years ago because the game's been in development for super long, yeah, that was a long time ago, and the world has gone to shit significantly more than it already was. Things have gotten a lot worse over the last ten years, and that's it. And yeah, okay. That's cool. I think everybody's pretty much like, yeah, I can piece two and two together on that, you know? Yeah! The sun was in the sky, and we saw- We did some revolutions around it, time passed, and over the course of time passing, shit got shitty, and here we are. Meow. That meow was from back then, and here we are now. You don't know, Woolly! No! Woolly, do you know what I'm gonna do? What are you gonna do? I'm gonna- You know that ready-made explanation you just handed me just now? Sure? No. No. Not good enough. Okay, what are you gonna do? I'm gonna take my foot, put it right up my ass. Oy, oy, oy. Or mouth ass, and then pull it out with a big smiley poop on it. It's like that, just- Anyway. Just shut up! That's all. That's- It's the most nothing, nothing, but it's just like so- It is actually what it was, but also shut up though. Yeah. In any case, I mean- Now you wanna talk about the real controversy this week. Okay, okay, what's- Yeah, you wanna talk about what's actually wildly controversial. Why can't I tell my cat Mugenics not to step in fucking glass? That's bullshit. Wait, what? When you're playing the Mugenics. Yeah. And you're like, I would like my cat to go here. Yeah. And you go to click on it. Yeah. The cat only has one choice of passing, ever. Okay, yeah, so sometimes if there's a dangerous passing route to get to a safe tile, you have to spend an extra turn getting there. Yeah, a full extra turn getting there. Yeah, because you can't- Like, I have four movement blocks. Can I choose the movement blocks? You can't go like that. You can't go left, right, up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes me nuts because I was fighting Fenrir, the boss that puts down traps. And I was like, oh, I was like, my brain would go, oh, surely the kitty cat will move to the correct spot, avoiding the trap that I know is that no. Yeah, no, that's one of those things you can't do. I fully expect that to actually be changed. The other thing, so that's not- So yeah, that I kind of more or less was accepting that. I mean, that's kind of fine. It is interesting seeing the design, the philosophies of keeping you in the dark on lots of things, because the whole Isaac sort of road of development. You really feel playing Mugenics that this was a game built by somebody who took 28 years to put item descriptions into the game. You feel it. So everything in my like, into the breach blood is coming out here and kind of going like, okay, I'm going to like, without- Basically trying to make the level of plays that you can make in that game because of the perfect information is not possible here. But you still have- There's still like lots I'd say that is out of your control with the way things go. And I guess that's kind of meant to be like the nature of it. Yeah, no, when you have your run, a huge part of it. Like once you're in the run, it's like fucking deal with whatever happens. Exactly. Yeah, right. Sometimes you send the wrong cat into the wrong event and then the wrong thing happens and you have no way to walk away from it. I had a fucking cat, my main fighter just go into the Amigara fault and- And die? And disappear and die and my cat was gone from the party. I had a cat have a fucking ability where it did damage. It earned money every time it hit. Yes, I got that one. And every time, but it's damage scaled with how much money it had- Oh, cool, cool, cool. Okay. And I got the crying dead baby that shoots two shots around. Oh, there you go. Okay. So that shit just fucking won the day for me. Oh, so one, getting to the boss of that same run I was just describing, the elongated Amigara fault cat that I lost came back to fight me. So that happens, by the way. But yeah, no, and then in terms of the actual strat, like things happening, yeah, the runs I'm starting to get are already starting to be like kind of- I've seen a couple busted builds. You know, I had a cat that was a healer that had the ability to throw a shield down on the ground and then go pick it up, but also had a quirk that was like whatever buffs you pick up for yourself apply to the whole party. Oh, that's super. So just the whole thing was like, yeah, my team is healing every turn, nonstop, as I just pick up my own buffs and then everyone can just go nuts, you know. Insane levels of like broken abilities you can get together. There's one where it's just like nuke everything outside of a little circle around you and make it all blind as well. And it just, it takes a lot of mana to do that. And then I just put heavy mana dump into the one caster and then everyone just sits tight, puts up a phalanx and then you just nuke the wave, the entire back until it's done, you know. It is a brave decision to lock, hey, what is going on with these party members at all behind like multiple tiers of long form upgrades? Yeah. Like you're not unlocking more power, you're unlocking the ability to see what's going on at all. Some abilities only make sense after leveling them up multiple times too. There are ones where you can toss things around the map and an upgraded version of that is like toss something onto an opponent and then it lands next to it, including friendlies, familiars, etc. And the cat I had in particular was a tank that would also, okay, it had the ability to kick rocks and make rocks. I got an item that was basically like an axe pick that would like make rocks out of inanimate objects. So I could fill up the field of rocks and then it had, shit it up with rocks, but then it had a quirk that made rocks your friends and rocks became extra party members that would walk around the field and have a super long attack distance. So I had like a billion familiars and if you walk up to any inanimate object, including giant ones and hit them with the pickaxe, you turn the whole object into like field of like four rocks that are now all also taking turns at the end of your turns to just pelt themselves. That's cool. It was insane, you know, so yeah, the broken builds are going nuts. I'm an act too. And I feel like if you do really good assigning the collars to the right cat with the right stats, like you can go really far with them. So far, I think the overall tactical gameplay is like really addictive and really well made. It's the game's incredible. It's really good. I literally only have two complaints and they're fairly minor. Okay. The pathing and the sorting once you get like more than 10 cast sorting is a lot. Sorting is a lot. It was briefly mentioned before this, but like run length is really long. It's nuts. You have to sit for a while to do a run. It's starting from scratch. Save and leave. Not during a fight though. So yeah, or else if you exactly. So I say I did the the games thing which said save and exit, which was during a fight. I said, okay. And then I resumed it and I got the fucking shadow asshole intro. Yeah, who's like, hey, you're not allowed to fuck with the save. And if I catch you doing it, bad things will happen. But you get one, you're allowed to fuck with the save once. And after that, uh-oh, you know, so I think that's fair. I get it. But I didn't do anything to interrupt it. I just followed the game's own logic to exit during a fight and then resumed my save and I got that warning message, you know? So that was weird. However, I just saw I'm just like, okay, save and exit outside of fights and it should be fine. Uh, my, for me, the complaint I have is the home cat stuff is more tedious and not as fun as it could be compared to like going out and doing the runs. Like I think that you are correct. I think that it's kind of meant to be like, like, oh, you're sorting through a bunch of crazy cats, you know, and it's meant to be like, ah, look at these assholes. Like you're a crazy cat lady doing it, doing it and picking them up. Where's the poop, et cetera. But when it comes to sorting out which ones are ready to go and which ones are the ones that are retired with the skills I wanted stuff, you can sort them by room and stuff. But it ends up kind of just being tedious and, you know, it feels like the kind of thing that is like dramatically improved as you get more upgrades. Yeah. And it takes a while to get them. Let's say like rooms, right? Having more rooms is a big deal. The room upgrades are like the longest form of grades in the whole 25 retired cats to get the third room, right? Um, still working on that. It takes a lot of fucking runs to get 25 retired cats that are also like better retirees you don't want to send elsewhere. You know, like I'm in the weird place right now where I'm like, like I'm doing okay through like the first act and or chapter or whatever the fuck it's called. And like in order to upgrade my permanent shit, I'm basically having to like start the fuck over every couple of runs because I got to send these losers out and I can't, I don't have the stat, I don't have the information about what's good and what isn't on them to successfully breed them. So I'm just kind of doing fucking whatever. So like, yeah, you can give, you can give kittens over to Mr. Tink to get to get your tips or whatever. And he unlocks a bunch of incredibly useful abilities. But um, so far it, well, so I haven't done a bunch of that. I haven't been giving kittens over because I've been just trying to, you know, get the good runs going. It feels as if, excuse me, um, it feels as if, if you like lose like your, your, if you lose like let's say two, three runs, you can be basically back to scratch. That happened to me. Oh, all, and all your good elder cats didn't have babies anymore. I lost, uh, three runs in a row. Okay. And I had like three retired cats that were the cats for my very first run. Okay. And nothing else in a couple of upgrades. Yeah. And when that happened, I was like, you know what? I am going to focus on being reasonable and not shooting for the moon and build up my permanent upgrades by just shooting cats off. Yeah. Because I'm not going to try and create the fucking Uber mench when I can't see like who's in bread, what their real stats are, et cetera. Also, when you beat runs with certain, when you beat runs, you unlock new extra strong abilities with those classes. So it doesn't pay to try to focus early on a particular Uber cat when you don't even have the progress unlocks to make better moves come along, the, coming down the line. It feels like the whole first act is like, get your feet wet. Don't go too crazy. Figure out how to play the game because things are like somewhat reasonable except for the caves. Man, the fucking cave caves. Uh, I found the graveyard worse than the caves. Oh, okay. Okay. The graveyard is worse than the caves. I'm probably, I haven't played all that much. I'm probably going to just restart and just start upgrading all my shit like crazy. Okay. There's a boss fight. No, wait. I could just send off all my cats and just that's functionally the same as restarting. There's a boss fight or, um, okay, two things. One, there's a boss fighter, two in the caves that have some gimmicks that are like, if you're not ready for them, you know, and, and, and to get, to get gimmicked out after an hour long run is, is wild. No, there, there's some, there's some, like I ran into bosses that were like not a big deal other than the fact that their gimmick was specifically built to ruin my specific combination. Yeah. The run that I had against the, the bomb rat on stream was particularly unfortunate in that like, I could, like I had to just chase them around and like it took forever. But then I had a second run where like it was raining. So none of all of his bombs just got dutted immediately. I had that run too. And I was like, Oh my God, hilarious. Yeah. Um, what I will say is, uh, when it comes to your retirees, like you want to keep the good ones around for breeding purposes. Um, and other. So hold on to your good retirees. I have like two retirees in my fucking house right now. Okay. Okay. When one of them is caboose, you should hold on to that. Yes. So I'll get hold on to more retirees. Um, what, how the fuck did that? That was crazy. I saw that clip and I was like, what? That's super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Was there, did you up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right? No, no. So apparently most of the suggestions were user submissions. So, uh, caboose and Elmo were in there for sure. But like, not only is, but just, Oh yeah, it was right away, but like, but the, but that's the part where I'm like, how the odds are insane. Okay. Well, in any case, that was incredible. Um, Hey, I want to mention something because I played, I've been playing stardew and I played no man's sky and I'm gonna play a new genics and I'm constantly being given the advice, hold on to this thing that you don't know what it's for. Yeah. And I'm starting to like just ignore that advice as a matter of course. Okay. Well, because it's always unclear as to whether or not it's worth it or rather whether it's not, whether or not it is worth the mental effort of keeping it in the background. Yes. For an unknown length of time. Gotcha. Okay. Well, then I'll, I have, I had one of those where it's like, Hey, hold on to this ribbon. And I was like, what does it, does it actually, is that a real thing? Um, okay. Well, I will just, if anyone doesn't want to know about like, I guess some, because the game's early, so everyone's still figuring it out right now. But if anyone doesn't want to hear about a like, I guess, whatever, spoiler-ish thing about later. Oh, man, I don't know shit. Okay. Tell me. Well, all that to say is just, well, one of that ribbon thing, I think it's nothing. It's literally the objects that I put the ribbon. I don't think it does. It literally does nothing as far as I can tell, whatever. It's cute. But we tell, me telling you about your cat retirees is because there is a challenge that occurs outside of the runs. Got it. Got it. That's it. That's all. Yeah. So I am now going to restart Mugenics. I have a sneaking suspicion getting back to where I am right now will be really fast. Yeah, but I know how to play the game. Oh, for sure. I mean, especially like given, you know, when I, like, learn how to play the game at these games, and I put a bunch of time into them and like, move smoother and stuff like the first run going through it on steam, on stream, I was kind of like, like, okay, just getting a hang of the info and so on, clicking around took a minute. Now, I'm like flying through it, you know, and feeling comfortable. I just want better sorting options for these cats. Yes. Yes. Even just figuring out who's ready to go is way harder than it needs to be. So I'm using to do that. I'm using the box, the depart box to just help with sorting, even when I'm not ready to depart. Dragging them to, you know, like clicking the quick button to go quickly, get ready to go over here or send them outside to the pipes or whatever. Like, all of that is just like, if this could be made easier, there could be more sorting options here. I definitely want- So you know what drives me nuts? Like drives me actually nuts, because everyone's saying, just give me a list of the cats, dude. Yeah. And I'm like, it's really annoying to be picking up and sorting up all these cats and be like, which cat is it? Which cat is it? If I wanted to be really, really kind, I could be like, I bet them- I bet the experience of, where's that cat while you're walking through your house and picking up all these weird cats is like intentional as a cat hoarding scenario. That's what I was saying. The fact that you have to click and drag them out of the way to go, that one, right? So you don't have to. You can like hit, I used a controller for a bunch of it, you can click like square and I'll show you the little profile. But you still have to go one by one. You can just click through that. Yeah, yeah, but you still have to go one by one. But like- And it will show you which ones can go because it'll have the box icon highlighted. So there's that. But the choice was deliberately clearly made here to not do something we've seen sorted out in say, Darkest Dungeon 2 or Darkest Dungeon 1, where your whole party is just on the right side of the screen, you know, top to bottom. And you're like, yeah, every cat I have could just be on a list right here and I could just go right to them. But it's- Where's that goddamn cat? You get over here. If I want to be like a massive asshole, I could be like, there's a lot of very clear pain points available in the eugenics that could be solved with relatively simple updates. You got to focus on those pain points. That being said, I don't know if- I don't know what or if is any of these things will change, though there is obviously support coming. Yeah, the charm of like, you know, tossing your cats out and out of the way and getting, you know, overrun with a big old house full of k-stanky cats and like- Also, the fact that like, there was a dead cat that was in there, but like it doesn't have a clear- It's upside down. But like, it doesn't say cat is dead. You just have to go, oh, that one's not moving and it's upside down. So, you know, and like, I- I- clicking through the prompt at one point when like, two cats got- got into a fight, I just wanted to click for the text to auto-auto-fill, but it skipped the whole prompt, so I missed that a cat had died. And then, you know, it's just- it's just this whole thing where it's just like, okay, you actually might be like one of those crazy cat ladies who doesn't even know that under this pile of cats, there's a dead one, which again, I do think is intentional. I- I think is a thing. I think- I think they want you to have that, oh, shit, oh, fuck, when did that happen? Love a little- I have a strong suspicion that this game will be around for a while. What would it be, the most played rogue like ever? Surpassing Hades 2 is kind of nuts. Surpassing Binding of Isaac. That's nuts. Yeah, the- the- the push fucking got where it needed to go on that. And hey, it will- we- it is the year 2000, you are browsing new grounds. It is- tomorrow it will also be the year 2000 and you'll be browsing new grounds forever. That's true, that's true. The appeal appears to be locked in and people are- are here for it. There's a strong suspicion that- for me that the game will be receiving a disgusting amount of updates over time. Well, yeah, you know, that- that- that this- this is the long- the long haul. Special- I'm sure get cameo cat things perhaps or, you know, here's a- here's cat from- fucking here's 808, here's- Yeah, but I mean you can just throw on like an extra chapter. Or two or three or four, yeah. Or three or four or five or six. You could throw on a whole extra map of buildings to go to- You could do many things. Yeah, for sure. But overall the- like again, the- the tactical runs, that part of it and everything is like, yeah, that- that- that works, that's sorted, that's pretty good. And, you know, getting a- finding rights- finding the right synergy of good builds and all that is really fun. I did a three-cat run. What is up with the- the free-cat run? Three-cat run. What is the deal? What is the purpose of that? So the three-cat run is by not having a fourth cat, you don't have- everything that you get, EXP-wise, is split. So by having three cats, they get- they get more experience per fight and they level up way faster. And if you- So if you've got a cat that you think is like this cat could fucking carry the whole fucking game by themselves. If you think that, if you feel that, right? And if you put a- If you feel that in your heart. And if you put a three-cat run on the hard path, they fucking just- they eat levels as long as you stay alive. As long as you can manage. Yes. What I will say is there appears to be a deliberate algorithmic tweak so that if you don't- maybe I'm just missing my head, maybe it's just RNG, but my observation so far has been if you don't have a healer, there are more offers for healing abilities to be self-sustaining. I mean, that makes sense. I wouldn't know that though, because I've never not taken the healer. Okay. So yeah, I did- I did runs without healing and I noticed, oh, my level-up options included self-maintenance options much more frequently, or items that would let you heal back up or give you the ability to generate healing items, you know? So they make it so that you're not completely fucked if you want to do a no-healer run. But alternatively, if you do do a healer run, you know that they've got it covered, so then you just go all offense on everything else, you know? But yeah, three-cat run, much harder, for sure, but like you're leveling up almost every fight sometimes. I did like a sequence of just like bop, bop, bop, and like of course those abilities start getting huge, you know? At a certain point you have more spells than your actual charisma can- or not- well, yeah, charisma, than your magic and cast, you know? Yeah. But yeah, no, I'm really enjoying that and I'd say to like just starting out act two or so, it's that thing where like, all right, now baseline enemies are- like there's things where it's like, you can ignore a bunch of these, there's only two real threatening dudes on the map right now or three, and like in act two I feel like every baseline enemy is a problem that needs to be addressed. And at this point, if you've gotten this far with you through the run, your cats should not be cowards, you should have built some resilient fuckers that can, you know, push it to the limit and potentially get back up after going down or have some wild shit going on with their build. They need to be broken at one thing. Farther than I am. Yeah, I'm basically- I killed the first boss of act two, is where I stopped. Oh, okay. What is that? The desert? Desert, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But when you get like, you get a cat that can like jump to anywhere next to one of your allies or like shoot anywhere next to one of your enemy, like you get these abilities where you're like, oh, the whole, I can go anywhere I want on the field any turn. And it just becomes this like, yeah, like you start breaking the game in your favor. There's the- with the thief, there's a skill that's called greed step. Yeah. And it's literally, you can auto teleport as long as there's a coin on the ground to any coin. What? Yeah. It's like, it's a flash step, but for greed, you know, and so you make your fights based on flash stepping to coins, you know, and fighting around it. It's sick. It's a really cool ability. I keep hemming and hawing as I play with my cats and I'm like, HP is the best stat. No, movement is the best stat. No, man, as the best. Am I like, as I go, like, because they're, they're all pretty well balanced because when, whenever I have a cat that's like really strong in one stat and really weak in the other, I fucking feel it. Okay. Okay. So if your, if your strength is decent, then movement is the best stat. If your aim is decent, then mana is the best stat, right? Like you want, like you don't need, if you have, if you can hit decently enough, then you need to be able to get there. And nothing beats like one turn problem solving, you know, because when you're talking about, again, like the three cat run, for example, the, okay. So you can, in these games, you can like, sometimes there's like a couple enemies left, like a flea or something, and you can go healing up your guys and like buffing yourself a little bit between rounds. Yeah. Yeah. But the faster you end the fight, the more rewards you get. Yeah. And it's, so it's actually more rewarding to end quicker than it is to go heal up everybody. So when you're, when you're able to take one turn to go, just go, bam, nuke that enemy, blast that, take that out. And in like two turns tops, you're out of there. And all that extra leveling up, all that extra life, everything, like you just start going and going and going. And that first environment becomes a, like a joke, you're just flying through it. Basically, you're doing the, you're doing the first environment almost like absentmindedly, hoping for great pickups as you wander into the little question marks. You know, I think, um, I think that the way that the game handles items is specifically designed to harm me because it's like, I finished a couple of runs and I was like, bro, you have twice as many items as you can feel. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, oh, I, time for some hard decisions. Yeah. And then I made those hard decisions, right? And then one run later, they're like, these fucking items are worn down to shit. They're going to just explode in like two seconds. I'm like, oh, okay. And then the runs after that were total failures, which put me back down to no. Yeah. Don't get too attached because they're not going to last more than one or two, you know, and when they're worn down, that's a heavy priority preference for me where I'm like, I'd rather get rid of an item that is, okay, something that is very, very useful. You use it till it falls off your body, but something that's like so, so, like versus something that is like a little less than so, so, but it's not worn. I'm taking that, you know? Yeah. It's the only game I can think of that I put like, oh, you get a lot of what are essentially potion and ether equivalents. And I'm like, I'm putting them on and I'm using them in the next fight. Run through your consumables. The only time they'll be useful is one fight from now. Yeah. Run through your fucking consumables. Absolutely. Yeah. I had some, some juiced up shit where it was like, I had consumables that were like giving you one strength up or so, or like sometimes multiple, like like a butt five strength up for like for one match or whatever. But then I had a cat that had a move called Falcon Punch and Falcon Punch is takes one turn to charge it, takes one turn to release the damage is stupid, you know? So you just, you throw all that together and then on top of that, you get, you get another one that was, I got the same cat got like, I think like stew powered or something stew, super powered where it's like, the dumber you are, the harder you hit. Oh, that's a good one. And then also, and then also the overdamage. Intelligence text. No, I don't think so. So if a cat is low intelligence enough, their, their fucking text on their character is garbled. It's dumb. Okay. I haven't seen that yet. No. I've been, I've been low, but I haven't been to zero. You know, but I, it's kind of unreadable looking at their abilities. Amazing. Can't even read. You're completely illiterate. That's great. No, the things that then lean into that, of course, which like after you do all, when you go, when you overpower or overkill an enemy, they just explode with no corpse and the explosion does damage to anything around it, you know, like you could go crazy with it. So, um, yeah. Anyway, no, it's pretty, again, pretty all in on the, on the combat stuff. Just I want that house sorting to be, I think you can make it charmingly tedious without feeling like proper tedious. There's a fine line. Yeah. I think, I think a lot of the tedious maxing or tedious minimizing is based around the game's upgrades. So I think you're supposed to, like, it's a really fine line to put something annoying in your game only for you to be able to unlock the ability to minimize it and have the player go, Oh, thank God. Yeah. Like I think, um, for example, the dragging them around to go clean up the poop and whatever is stuff that like you can keep that in there, right? That's fine. But just when it, when your house is overwhelmed and you're trying to like get the right ones for the run, you know, and stuff, it's like times like that where it's like, yeah, okay, this is just this is not the charm isn't in this part, you know. And similarly, if there were some sort of mechanic where it's like, you got to go pick them up to find the right one to be like, Hey, you, let me give you a scrub or whatever it is, little caring for them things or whatever you want it to do. There's ways to kind of lean into that part. But just when I want to do a run, I want to like just be able to sort that out proper, you know. But yeah, no, that's it. That the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, progress has been, has been good and the game's fun. It's kind of wild though to like, you know, you hit that act two or so and you go back to that title screen and it says like, Hey, you've done 7% maybe, you know, if at that. So, so it's, it's very fascinating. Cause like you look at Isaac, right? And you look at like the how long to beat on Isaac and it's like 450 fucking hours, right? But that's after many updates. You look at the how long to beat at this fucking thing and it's like 400 fucking today. Oh yeah. Like they slow roll one of the main mechanics of the game, which is the mutations system. I've, I, I am not far enough to have received any mutation. They slow roll that at you because it's basically like they, it seems like they want you to be like comfortable with how the game runs normally before you even begin to introduce any of that stuff. You know, and I have a feeling that like once you have all of the permanent upgrades, even a total loss of every single cat in your entire stable is not that big of a deal because, because you end up looking at because you're able to pick winners and losers immediately because you have the information to look at them. That's, that's what I'm guessing. I'm guessing that as well. And like it, plus if you have a high enough appeal on your house, you're getting better strays anyway. Oh, I have shit appeal on my house. Nobody wants to fucking my house at all. Oh yeah. No, my appeal is they're all miserable. They shit on each other putting the other thing too is like a fucking disgusting. I've had some things where it's like a couple nights in a row, one cat tried to get it on, but the other one wasn't into it, you know, and then the other ones pick and fights and stuff. And I just changed rooms and like, okay, you go hang out with these people and then it worked out. So I feel like there are times when it's like, oh, they specifically are just like, yeah, these two are not going to get along for whatever reason, separate them and make some space. But I do expect that the mutations and the house appeal are going to be your permanent progress like smoothers, you know, over time, where if you do wipe out your entire fucking house, then you're like, okay, well, it's fine. The next one coming in is going to be pretty good on the stats, you know. Also, despite all the, despite all the graphic content, it's pretty pretty chill and cartoony. It's tame. Yeah. It's very actually tame to see. I mean, it is kind of like the goofiness of like seeing the cat, the kitten slide out. Oh, that's the one that got me was like the one the cats were boning and one cat just got behind the other one to the score. Just full on helicopter, you know, the definition of doing tricks on it. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, that was that was fun. That's a good game. And that is a good game that's going to be around for a while. Please. Please do something about the sorting. That's it. That's all I want. That's all I want. I was going, please shut the fuck up. You notice what I didn't include. I didn't say please talk. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Those boss themes are incredible. So I think the best part of the game, the best part of the game is the music. Easy. No, absolutely. By far. And you want to fuck in the fact that the stage theme is like building up to the vocal track for like 40 minutes, say the word, Pat. Light motif. Oh, is that a lame motif? Lame motif. I think it's just the song without lyrics, actually. Well, it's the build up to the song. And then you get sometimes your own cats doing the their vocals on it, where they'll go meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. And then you're like, oh, I can get a hint of what the vocal is going to be. And then you finally get there. And then it starts going full ham. And it's like, yeah, I've been listening to this track for the whole run. And now here come the lyrics and the vocals are great. Super good, super good. And every stage is an incredible soundtrack. I've heard, yeah, five of them now. And they're all they're all bangers. Each one of them is great. The desert, like, dude, like you get to the desert boss and it's just Johnny Cash. Like, it's just it's so fucking powerful. It's fantastic, man. Best part of the game is the music, easy. And the other thing too is I can like, there's a there's a distinct there's a distinct taste that you can tell he has about music, where there's similarities instruments and choir usage between Isaac, Bumbo and and and his other games, you know, there's a bit of that that the repeating la la la la la. Yeah. And a bunch of people going you know, like he likes to use that a lot. And that's coming back in here with the kind of the title theme being a being very almost like Saturday morning cartoon tinkering like you know, all these little noises and sound effects. It's it seems like that's a distinct McMillan move. And so here you're getting the best versions of those things, plus these great lyrics on the songs, you know. Yeah, every track I've heard is fantastic. Mugenics, Mugenics, good so far. Mugenics, good. Very good. Minor complaints, but other than that, yeah, no, it's it's an it's an incredible game. Turns out the sequel to Eugenics much better. Yeah. That first one, not great. Part two, though. You can have that bit by yourself. All right. Really? No. Yeah. You know, you don't want any of that. I don't want none of that. No, there's nothing nothing going on with the red heads you want to fix. No, well, the pain thing. Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking about. Yeah, you know. What else is going on? Are you talking to yourself or are you talking to me? Oh, that was that was I thought you were talking to yourself. No, no, no, that was aimed at you. Oh, it was aimed at me. Oh, let's see. Played me. Gen X. I've been digging away at Stardew Valley. I hit the part of Stardew Valley that made my stomach turn. Oh, so I've been I've been chipping away at Stardew and finished the community center bundle, which is like the game's overall meta progression. I've been I've made myself a nice little farm. I've explored a bunch of new areas that I've unlocked, etc, etc. And then I got I spent a lot of resources and then hopped on a boat. And apparently the boat was added in an update. Came out many years after release to DLC and the boat brings you to Stardew Valley to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And with with its perfect time to start again with and it's just like Jesus start start from scratching a new location with new stuff. Not from scratch, but yes. Okay. New currency, new NPC, new farm. Is it is it winter or tropical themed? It's tropical. Yeah, okay. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. And it's it's so enormous and massive that I looked at it and I walked around and I'm like, I am going to finish everything over there where I started first, please before I come back to this, because this is something that was added many years later to continue onward from your completely fucking finished farm. So if I can make an observation, the the way that those feeds have been popping up on on my YouTube list, the the amount of your Stardew things that have been scrolling up there leads me to believe that this is good. Sure. Yes. Leads me to believe that this has exited the like schedule based formatting and is in the I just want to fucking play this game and I'm going to hit the button. It has entered into the I'm well it's 9 30 p.m. And the wife and baby went to bed early territory. Yep. I'm playing anyway. Might as well hit the button. I have I have a term for that on my show and have had that for over a year. Well, you're whatever I real metaphor hours. Okay. Where I when I started metaphor, I was like, I sat down and was like, this is a long goddamn fucking game. The only way I can reasonably stream metaphor is if I metaphor max it to the nth degree. So I was doing like a full day and then like eating dinner and helping put the baby down for his nap and then going right the fuck back in there till like 1 a.m. And that's that's how I did metaphor in the month of September. Okay. Like the whole fucking thing in the month of September. And Stardew is kind of on that. But like it has like I say this every time it has the perfect pacing every day in game is like 14 to 18 minutes long. Okay. Like it is the like it is always a perfect perfect amount to get just a little bit done or oh, I got that done or oh that like and as and just to coming off of the last subject like I do have those times where I'm like I could go for a mugenics run right now, but you can't do a quick one, you know, you have to be like you literally can't I'm going to do a couple stages and stop is what you can do. You can do a Stardew Valley day and then you could do another Stardew Valley day and then you could do another one. And now it's now it's 1 a.m. Yeah, fuck. I truly know there's something to be appreciated about whatever video game you're playing the bite size chunk being available, you know, the one from the moment you start when is your next okay, I can stop what is the shortest amount of time you can take a little snack and then be done, you know, or double down or so. It's funny because I I've also played about 10 hours of No Man's Sky this week. It was for a spot. Well, four of those hours were sponsored. Six of those hours were for me. And so the amount of stuff they've added into that game. There is no loop. There is no amount of there's no natural stopping point. There is just like a violently intimidating amount of shit that is happening at any given second all the time. It's it's very intimidating. It is absolutely the type of thing that you have to sit down and be like, I need a concrete goal that I will make for me. So stupid question here, but like what is progress in No Man's Sky? There are many type of progress mapping is a main story quest tech tree plot events. So there's there's the plot slash main story quest slash journey to the galactic center like progression. There is upgrading your gun. Your mining哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 your哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. And what you're basically like 15 to 20 different progression. Like angles, sure. And all of them are just do whatever. And so like in so go going for it, I had to be like, I need to set like concrete goals for right the fuck now. So like when I when I finished my stream, which was like, I got my feet ready, my feet wet, my concrete goal was like, I need to make a base that has a battery and a solar generator so that the teleporter never turns off. Okay, that would that was like the very small goal. Does the right does the game like shine the light of God on any of those things? It shines a lot of God on them a little bit at the beginning because you have a very small tech tree before you unlock it. But then fairly early you unlock the game's social hub, which you can summon at any point in space and it brings you to a a space station filled with other players. And that thing just has every goddamn feature in the entire game just open sitting on the fucking space station and I'm talking to the NPCs and like it is just a wall of shit that I don't understand. Like every single NPC they're like you could do this and I'm like what the fuck is that? I don't know what the fuck that is. Okay. Because I would expect a lot. I would this is also to where I'd expect that like, you know, given the whole nature of the game being this open or whatever in other games you'd be like, okay, if you're upgrading your base eventually your base upgrade stops because it says you need to go get a particular type of thing that you can only get from now going to do another one of these features. That points you to go do that thing now. What it'll do is that the attack is relatively easy to unlock but actually building the tech requires like, you know, this or that resource. And so what happens is that you can pin any piece of technology or anything to your quest log and you'll like you'll pin like, oh, I want a new solar generator and you pin it and then in your quest log it'll say you need this much Chromatic metal and you get chromatic metal from copper and you need this much this and that and it tells you what type of places you could go and get them from but you need to go and find the types of places you could go and get them from because not every planet has copper not every cat planet has pyrite not every planet has a long-distance transmitter or ancient fossils or Fucking whatever or water Yeah, you're right. Yeah And so it's very much Do whatever But like I thank God there's a fucking main quest because if there was no main quest at all I would just like vomit from anxiety over the amount of fucking things they throw at you It has the feeling of a 10 year long MMO that you started Like because you saw the cool new expansion came out No, and and I think too like, you know, like not sandbox, but um like toy box kind of games Yeah, like they're kind of make your own Yeah, like there's a place like some of those obviously can Blow up and go crazy in a Minecraft and stuff like that, you know, but I think Even in those cases you still need to have a little bit of like I said little light of God to just be like, okay Just tell me which you know this game does in fact have a little light of God and it's the main story Yeah, just just a little bit. Yeah, okay, and the main story is like why don't you? Go to three different planets in the solar system. Mm-hmm. Just go. Mm-hmm. Why don't you? Fall through a black hole and see what happens You know, etc. Hmm Okay, and then eventually like so one of the main goals the the main story says like you got to build a hyperdrive All right and building a hyperdrive requires this material this material this material and it requires you to just straight up buy an item Well in order to just buy an item you need money And so then there's the like just make money. However, but go make some money What's inside a black hole? And then there's a there's a bit. Oh, it's a teleport. It's it's like it's a hyperdrive times a hundred Oh sick. Yeah, that makes a lot it'll damage your ship. Of course. Yeah So you usually come out of it with a broken hyperdrive, which means that wherever you end up is it where you're gonna have to repair your bullshit It's a fucking cool game it's it's really really overwhelmingly intimidating and It is nuts that they spent like Fucking ten years just doing update after update after update after update after update Yeah, but that's I mean it is the promise not the promise But like they announced the game as being this go anywhere do anything Yes, it no man sky today is what was promised to people initially. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which means that light no fire will get a fair amount of leeway When it releases they built it up over time and I assume a lot of this mechanic and and like technological complexity will be able to Fit into light no fire This thing's making money, huh? Thank you for making enough money to pay me Campaign yeah, okay, because I'm just thinking about like for two sponsored streams Because I'm thinking like without without any urging I feel like of all the things listed there I'm like I would like to I would want to make my spaceship cool And I'd probably spend a lot of my time trying to make that so apart of my main objective and I'd be more interested in that than like space botany for example. I think that adding a social hub really Hit the nail on the head with that because I'm just using the default ship I found a broken ship that I could have repaired but it was so damaged That I was like I'm not gonna bother so I scrapped it for cash, right? But then I went to the social hub Right and in the social hub. I saw a junk ass Frater ass pile of garbage held together by duct tape which looked really cool a sleek metal triangle looking fucking you know the pristine fucking ship and a gigantic like proper like fucking 30 room spacecraft That had been custom built and a jellyfish That you could use as a spaceship like a fucking live squid jellyfish creature nice, okay? And by seeing that shit in the hub my brain was oh You can oh my god, you know like just like oh, I didn't even know you could pilot a fucking mushroom Organic spaces are an option. That's though. That's cool. Okay It's cool, man I've been playing 2x ko which is not dead Mm-hmm But what is dead is my skill level hmm? I I I I mused on this last week and I can confirm it now the player base is Way stronger in season one than they were in season zero Yeah, way stronger. I'm approximately the same level of Strength that I was last time. Mm-hmm. I have I have gone from Comfortable grandmaster player to emerald. Okay. Yeah, well are just much stronger This is the March of Time once the once those the starting gates are open, right people Have either learned how to get better or People have dropped off, you know, so you're seeing the the starting to it's starting to Thin out and separate a little bit, you know, yeah, um, I mean might as well Hijack this section and put it all together. Oh my god, but After you know the the story from last week 2x ko minus 80 We saw an update where I I'm like I promise we're not dead update Well, I looked at the bullet point list and I'm just like that is everything we talked about isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be like wow they really listen to us because we're so important Well, or you can smell your own farts and be like we correctly Assertained all the points that needed to be addressed because we're super smart. Well, I mean realistically From being there in person and chatting with the dude. It's like yeah No, I think I have concrete like They're paying attention to what a lot of people online are saying for sure and it's been that way from the jump and From well before it even came out I remember when when I first went to Evo and and saw it and got a chance at it and spoke to the community manager and stuff like They're they're actually out there listening and looking at stuff and you know, it's a little bit That's one thing that I do like think is is solid about how you know They're going about stuff as opposed to you know, one of the other stories from this week Which is like hey it took a while But eventually the Capcom eSports team did allow the devs to walk in and say You know about five minutes of their piece About what the pricing structure would be for the Street Fighter League stuff and the Capcom cup stuff And they finally convinced them, you know, but anyway, we'll get we'll get there um all this to say that the after people after half the team was let go some people started putting up their reels and on their their like Work that they showed off and stuff one person accidentally leaked a screenshot with Akali on it and I think the strategy of we do fake leaks to then announce characters every time It works for these instances because when real leaks happen the same the same strategy Is in place which is all right the leak is out really reveal the character, right? I want to say it was less than 24 hours after somebody had a Just like it was it was and it was very accidental because it was a video of them showing the work They put into Blitzcrank and then one of the second characters behind Blitzcrank for that one clip of the super Was Akali, you know, and it was again. This is someone who was no longer employed. Oops. So it was actually a mistake Um, they then took that down afterwards, right? So this is not accidentally with quote quotation marks It was a mistake the person made but in response the team went yeah, hey Akali's coming and so is uh Senna So it's really funny because I remember Talking to you about characters that should come this year into 2x ko And I said oh Akali's gonna definitely be there 100 and I was saying was popular And then I said, you know who I'd like to see I'd like to see senna and I sent you a fucking photo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay And I mean the Akali one is a no-brainer because it's like I've said this from the jump but the kda Shit is like you you you make money on that you sell those costumes you go, right? um Senna was one that like, uh, yeah, it works Well, because the other the thing is that it's a girl with a big gun But okay, they did Caitlyn different and here your thought is are you gonna do how you're gonna do a third version of it and from that one clip Looks pretty different. Well, there's there's two things going on with senna one is the sorry three things One is the fact that the gun is is so big That it acts as like a like a long range like melee weapon Like she's got big fat normals you can even see them in the trailer. She's got like blitz normals The other is that her her shit looks like a beam Rather than a but than a projectile and the game has no beam other than jinx is super And the other one is she turns into a melee character like ghost type of type of person Was she or like I think I saw like she does that turn into like a turret that she sits on in in league Or something to the defectors. No, she's not that okay. No, well um In any case like that Yeah, showing that often The only thing I knew about Akali was when the kda music video stuff went pretty big outside the game That's the that's the first time I'd seen or heard about the character and then after that like it's like Oh, yeah, this is this is one of the very popular ones looking at her. I was like, oh, that's cool She's like a you know ninja girl and stuff and she's a boogie man. She's a boot. She's a boot She's got the tools. She's got the thing and she's got the opening and all that and I'm like, that's a cool That's a cool ninja girl character and um And then people and then I saw the original design with the baggier pants and I was like, oh shit. That's way cooler So so there's a reason uh for that uh for the baggy pant thing because nobody likes the baggy pant change um, I think I I saw um somebody brought up an interview where they're like flowing cloth and shit like that is a nightmare in the way that they build the engine So like some of these things are like completely non-negotiable like Darius's cape Mm-hmm, but um They're trying to get away from it as fast as possible because it's just a fucking pain Well, so one of the there was a an artist who worked there Uh that did a more accurate baggy pant model That then showed off some of their work like as fan art after the fact or so There's a bit a bit of a like it was a bit of a confusing timeline of it But it seems like someone working there made a model that looked more accurate and then uh that Was years later that and then we can go back and see it and like yeah the baggy Punt model does look cool and the hair is a bit different as well But it's a bit of a problem here Because you know showing off this character and people being like hey, could you fix the pants and the hair a little bit? would be maybe a possible reality If some of the people who worked on that character weren't Fucking fired that is last week. That is possible um I it's the one of the things I've seen mainly in response to her is like, ah You know the design change and I was like, oh, she's fine and then the original is like, oh, no that makes more sense I will say 80 people is a lot more than Are currently working on most fighting games that are active right now. Is that true? I definitely believe so. I think street fighter six and tec-n are are comparable But I don't think anything outside of those games I I don't know that guilty gear has a staff of 80 on it right now That's like there was like a magic number where they were like, how many fucking people are working on street fighter right now um, and then cut to that because like fully half the team seems like it was a Well, no, well what no what you have in this is more like pipeline Game design shit, but what you'll have is phases with that startup at a there's a ramp up and a ramp down and um the I'm sure at some point the the the ramp down to this number was In there, but the thought in many cases are in many in many studios cases is the ramp down means that these people are not fired They're put on to the next project Right, so if this was supposed to be a forever project. So everyone who's working on um On worked on shrive is not currently working on strife But I'm sure a lot of members of that team went on to work on tokon, right or that is that is how you would usually do it Okay, every pre-production is done. Okay pre-production people move over to the next thing where you can do pre-production there Exactly, exactly, right? So that that's how this goes is like you there's a live team That is basically once the game releases the live service team ends up being like, you know Much much much reduced from the development team and then after that there's a skeleton team when live service is not shut down But like there's not really new content coming, you know, they'll ramp up again Sometimes have a new a new piece of content to drop and then ramp back down to just like the the minimums but um That's often only possible if there's other projects to cycle those people over to you know In any case though, I am so desperate for the numbers on this fucking game, dude I want I want the oh, but they don't they don't do that. They don't do that. Yeah. No, that's why I fucking want them They was on fucking steam. We just we'd know like that no problem, right? but um, but uh With that showing off with the like hey, here's the next two characters right off the bat. Um, and senna is from um, um a different She is from the uh, the the shadow isles. Yeah from a place another location. That's not she is the first character Where thresh and viego and all the zombies and skeletons are from so people talking about her stage We're excited about that too because it's like hey, that's good. That means that means good things It's a cool fucking location. Um And then thrashes at the end of the season right sure sure if we're focusing on there Thresh is the final character of this season because this stage must mean must reference that Yeah, yeah, okay um And then the and then also they in the same um thing where they addressed that part They're like, okay too. Also when we're focusing on local duo's couch co-op, right that Is still the weirdest part of this game's development by far So they're working on prototyping it that I would expect it for the next season that it would exist Yeah, we uh, it's not something that I would use well. We went into that a bunch Last week about just like this seems like the slam dunk over like Advertise this everybody play with your friends feature You know like go like two people sitting there together playing online the most strange fun way to go about this It's also like the best way to get somebody who might not be into it into it is to play matches with them Not against them and to insulate against some toxicity or against some bad feelings against the stinging of losses Against making learning feel better. It's a force multiplier when you have someone in the room with you playing a game in terms of how good it feels in fact one can argue that the fact that That these games and most games are online focused now when you had The okay, I'm just going to bullshit some shit. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just gonna throw it out there Be like me. All right. I don't know what I'm talking about But whatever will he opens his mouth and goes fighting games. Yeah, yeah, okay Magic the gathering players yugioh players card game players. We've been talking about you guys a bunch in recent in recent weeks I need your help one more time. I need your help one more time Okay, so for card game players that are avidly into it the folks who are especially Coming from the days of going out and playing against people in person Right at events at card shops and stuff And you know what we'll throw in 40k as well. We'll throw in warhammer players wargaming. Yeah For games where there was an in Uh person component and then eventually an online version of the game was popular and was possible And made it easier to play more often and and and and you know do the game digitally Did you notice a like did you notice that community wise or like vibe wise? When things are more focused online There's a negativity tinge that enters the situation and makes it feel like More hostile than when you got to meet up with people iRL Is I think that's I think that's true of literally every single human interaction in the entire world I think so too. I just wanted to jump over to an example That was a different genre to go that like hey, you know when you are Getting into something with people in the same room You get a much more warm version of that in a lot of cases versus when the online only introduction is what you have Hey, man, I tell you what I've been called gay with a capital f more online than I have been at my local hobby shop. Wow Yeah, right. I mean Yeah, you which is which is uh, uh many versus never. Yeah Well, I mean the the you know the it's it's a lot harder to banevade in real life You know When you walk in and the store jingles and then everyone looks over at you and goes get the fuck out of here You know, um There's no online equivalent To closing your fist extending your thumb to the side Crooking your eyebrow and going Get a load of this fucking guy doesn't work online So so uh all this all this to say that um something that is great about online Being the You know what when a genre goes online It brings a lot more people in and makes it more accessible But a downside is is that you get this vibe change with it, you know, um, and I think That having someone on the couch to play with you Does a lot to alleviate that and that's a really cool thing that this feature can bring so Should have been there from the start glad to hear that they're doing it. Um Hey, did you uh, did you catch? Uh, there was a great say jam video that came out after the podcast talking about Um, 2xco in kind of but it was against the thing of like well fighting games can't be popular like shooters because fighting games are too hard Okay, there's a hold on. There's a whole secondary discussion around. I know what you're talking about Okay, I'll hold on to this. I didn't see I didn't see the video. Um, but this is there's a lot of the discourse has been around an article that came out this week um Before that, uh, they said yeah ranked is getting touched. Yeah, so echo is getting touched and the screen tearing came up as well Okay, can I can I say two things about that? I feel I'm in bc now. So I talk like this I feel so seen and valid Um that I got to see in the blog post them go Yeah, no Yasuo echo Still fucking crazy If you like like a match that you fought against yes a Yasuo echo team that was in ranked that had screen tearing in it on console This big circle around this Diagram circle as you go wow that was a bad experience That's actually we're we're addressing this on the board right here. Yeah. Yeah It's it's quite rare for like a specific character or like team in a game to have me actually go This sucks bad enough that I think it's harming the game. I would leave that to like So got in like street fighter 4 Like this is bad for the game level shit Um, so I think it's wild that echo and Yasuo have been nerfed every patch of the game's life and I'm sitting here and going Still fucked up. It's still crazy that being but like the idea that hey, especially after last week's news There's a very clear like yo, you got to communicate with people and tell them what's going on Which they've always been pretty good about so that's what you're doing there and there's a little bit of like Yo, tokon is like hey everybody Come check out what we got going on over here Here's the thing Hey, hey you stop that Don't hey listen tokon tokon You had the best pitch of any fighter I've ever seen And then I played you and now you must repitch me. Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah So, I mean look if we can just if we're here we're here Seeing you need to make the I read I read a comment that literally said Magics in the game will be peak. Fuck the fgc How long are you gonna play it for like okay, okay And no listen though magic magic rules though So so the trailer they showed off was a very smartly timed hype thing where they dropped Wolverine which everybody fucking wants He's finally a video game canadian got his super armor Canadian wolverine has his armor and he's doing his own stuff. That's and it's it's a different wolverine Um, you know, so they showed off what you wanted there storms And then magic awesome. She's been getting pushed everywhere shout out to liana. I liked her in in rivals. She was sick and here she is um leaning into the You know, uh, goth goth girl a version of her face and look and everything like that as well And the uh and then danger another one which is a deep pull of the Walking incarnation of the danger room That's weird with shi-ar technology and i'll tell you one thing as far as like making an anime character as design goes That's a glow-up because the original danger way less cool um Yeah, like if you just type danger X-Men Oh, and go look at the original design The that's gone off. No the anime girl is a fix They this is the original design is that has gone off. Wow. That that is a massive glow peak Mid aughts just forgettable comic design character, right? So great picks there furthermore. They also showed off the assemble mechanic which they were holding back Up to this point which appears to be a all four characters together assembling to do a big super Which is like oh now there's a reason for you to Like have your team and get something out of it because prior to this point the incentive to have your whole team It wasn't doing as much because it was very standardized when everyone's assistant can do the same shit Like listen, man. I've played a lot of arc system works games. I don't think that they're gonna release a even mediocre Fighting game. I hope not but I would I would like I would like more proof in my hands because that that beta Alpha whatever the fuck it was was rough footage They sped up the tags and they and they made it so that the assists coming out don't just do standardized Assist things anymore. They do more unique things. So it looks like they're paying attention to that as well These are all good things and again the characters looked awesome Um, also there was english v.a in these trailers. So I guess the whole like we're sticking to the japanese thing I I feel like maybe they went back on that I think that was always gonna be temporary. Yeah, I thought it was part of the like aggressively manga design Was like no, we're gonna go with the dubs the whole way through but Either way all good. I mean great to hear steve bloom and and everyone else killing it um But with all these actually already said this yo they got magic in a fighting game. That's awesome. That's awesome That character's been getting way more play over the years. She was in midnight suns and rivals. She's super cool She's her kit is also just fucking perfect for her games I never you know back again back when I was watching the x-men cartoon and you know, peter was going I never thought that that would turn into this. So that's cool I'm I'm super happy that she's getting a lot of like play Um, that's a good reveal of four x-men to like to drop there Yeah, three new ones too, you know Still concerned the game will not be a fun fighting game still concerned about that part of it and we'll have to see It would be pretty wild for arc system works to miss on something this high problem It would and after after hit after hit after hit and it would suck to have such like Good stuff going on aesthetically With nothing going on gameplay wise that would really be a bummer But it's not like it hasn't happened before and the last thing I want to do is enter a world where we're looking at the marvel equivalent of jojo all-star battle Oh, I thought Yeah, I'm I'm invoking that one. I thought you were gonna say the the inverted um Marvel infinite Oh, no, no, no, no, no like though I think what would really suck here is to have a game that is actually appealing enough to a lot of people Just visually on on cast and style and aesthetic that like on a casual level You're like look how cool this is and people are like, oh that looks fucking sick I want to play that but then when it comes to showing up and people are like wait, why aren't many people playing this? Why what's going on? There doesn't seem to be much going, you know, why why is it not being supported? Why is the da da da it's because you haven't given people like yes The actual mechanics of the game are not as fun as other fighting games and there's there's It's very repetitive and stiff and slower and weird, you know and it sucks because I remember that was the first like I learned so much about our internet fucking existence at that point where just the like But look how cool the jojo characters look and they're the love The music the love the design everything about what cyber connect was doing was so faithful and awesome to representing jojo And they just couldn't for the life of them make a fun fighting game You know and and they just they they changed genres the second time around and just gave up on that But like nobody who's just enjoying the cool Look at look at my stand look at the world doing an accurate the world And then jotaro interrupts it and has a cool hype moment people who are here for that Don't want to hear about the unhype of the game itself not being fun to play So now we're in this weird place of being like I don't want to be out like the group is I don't want to be the guy Who's like outside the group going? Hey, stop having fun and then the prayer every and everyone keeps playing and whatever are they're just doing the big thumbs up to you Like okay, buddy, whatever. We don't care. We're just gonna have fun. You know you don't want to be that guy Saw that this past week. So last week we made um our yearly A series of digs at a PlayStation one fighting game called evil zone uh, which led to a fascinating thread That I saw which was what is the deal with woolly and pat and evil zone And it basically broke down to a bunch of people being like oh man. I love that game that game was so cool Why would they hate it and the answer is because it plays Like trash. Yeah, it's a two-button fighter. That's very bad to feel but it's cool as fuck because that's the problem Because dan like because see characters and the single player Because dan ziver the toku hero when you go into his arcade mode has a episodic weak monster of the weak progression Where it's like you're watching his anime Going from character stage to fight actually fucking rule It's the coolest shit all that shit every character design coming from their own Different anime and having the the aesthetic of that and the music and voice acting to make it feel like they're Clashing together wasn't red characters from a different anime and they all have their own different like love that Player structure. It's awesome. But then the moment you have to touch it and move the characters you go You know so The evil zone is like the the grandfather of every anime game that has the best graphics And the coolest presentation And you're like, oh, do you want to sit down? woolly do you want to come over to the club space and Fucking play Neuro ultimate hero 3 or do you want to just load it up and have us just watch all the fucking super animations? Literally, I just sat there and showed you guys Nerutimate hero supers. Do you guys want to play it? No But look at what cyber connect can do when it comes to these fucking cutscenes. They're awesome, right? that's it it's the showcase and It's been that way for a million years now Like yeah from from from the beginning of the cyber connect games till now I've been showing off just like check these fucking high pass supers though um, and So here we are and i'm like, oh no this time. It's not even cyber connect though. It's arxis. You're like, okay This can like the thing is is and this is what's weird about it Is that like like the game is it's not like evil zone dog shit to play No, it's far from that It's a whatever it's a functional fighting game But it's just like It's going to get boring to play a lot faster than the others because most matches Feel more repetitive because the characters are more similar than they are in any other genre any other game right now I think we may be at a point in fighting game history Where the games of old with sprites have Fucked up our expectations for every game going forward and I don't think they'll ever be fixed Because they announced marvel toke on is going to come out as a four man tag fighter with a roster of 20 and my brain went Fuck off. Are you kidding me? We were making fun of 2x ko with 11 in a two person tag fighter. That's technically worse Uh Five teams of four. Yeah five teams of four Um You feel the roster a lot in three play three three team three character team games, right in uh skull girls and marvel in games, etc Anytime you're seeing these characters more often you feel it, uh in four in four On four games, I imagine you'd feel it more unless the people you're fighting are not picking those characters and sticking with their Main the whole way through it's it's strange. I don't know man. What is this game? What might sidestep that if people don't switch off of their of their their mains, you know I don't know but what I will say is is that like I think every time toke on made a decision that was Not in service of what was fun, but was in service of what would be different from what capcom did Those are the bad decisions, you know You can make because they're clearly there's a lot here where they're like we're making a marvel fighting game That's team-based, but we don't want this to be marvel versus capcom four So we're going to do things to try and just make it more distinct and some of those decisions A lot of those decisions seem to be like yeah, but making it more distinct didn't necessarily mean that you made it more fun You know We'll see we will see and uh, you know, they're they're after a lot of radio silence They're coming out and showing off, you know a pretty high drop of characters And I think they're going to show I think the roster is going to be like whoever's in those 20 looks like there It's going to be a solid solid pick. Yeah looks like I just think it should be um More than that 120 larger. Mm-hmm Yeah, I think it should be larger than that I think um but but uh all this to say that uh I don't know how drastic game design can change at this point in time um The tweaks that it needs to like make it feel less repetitive will Help a lot But I will say that like By what we by still it's it's standards and it has a long way to go to feel like I don't know as active as Marvel and 2x ko do which are really solid examples. I'd say of like, you know fast-paced fun fighters in that way And well, you know, I I guess um The other thing too is like if you do bring out like Good picks for at a time each one of these seasons is like, you know, uh Above you're dropping a whole group on on the game or whatever. Is that how it's going to work? They're gonna drop the all four at once all four fantastic four characters at one in in one piece of How that's gonna release because I usually they just release one at a time or or they'd announce a season, right? I imagine they can announce a fantastic four season. They get or something to that effect, you know, or the blade morbius fucking vampire season or whatever, you know, um, I don't know but uh That it's marvel. So again looking at rivals. It's like that could do Wonders for that game in terms of just getting people to to pay attention to it and stuff. But um I just You know reggie and I were kind of having this conversation a little earlier too where he was like people and in sort of like People in the community around us were just going like going like oh, yo checking out the trailer and shit And he's kind of going like Okay, I'm hyped to see magic, but I want to also enjoy playing as her right? It's not just looking at her and rotating the model around. I want to be doing cool shit and That's a question mark. We'll see That's a question mark You know, that's it. That's it. I'm I'm I'm that that out that playable alpha Didn't didn't inspire the confidence. I was hoping it would and you don't want to pour water on excitement, but like I can't stop thinking about how Played a couple games one day and then you played a little bit and just I just got the text like It was fucking me it was like It was like Something to the effect of like tokon is woof or something I forget But like I was like I'm scrolling Like you felt it immediately and I felt it and then we and then people I was playing we all felt it like oh, no This has a lot going on aesthetically, but fuck That was a while ago. I'm not gonna be able to don't choke on the gameplay guys. Yeah. All right. Um Well, I want to briefly talk about the the say jam thing and it was it was just a reiteration But he put out a great video where one of the complaints of 2x ko and why I wasn't doing so well I was like fighting games are just too hard right Uh, and he went to reiterate a point that he's talked about a lot which is like deadlock can't even You can't even fucking go and just download deadlock other genres pulling like 130 fucking thousand people a day that is The most complicated fucking game I have ever played in my life. Yes Other genres are harder to learn But that's not game in particular is Like fucked but that's not but ultimately all and the thing is and as much as you can we can like point that out or whatever It doesn't change feelings perception and overall the the issues to which there was an article that went around this week Uh, that has been making the rounds called fighting games have a product design problem I think that article was pretty solid. Honestly. I so I I I I I didn't finish I got through most I was uh, I think just the last little part here But everything I was reading in and I was like, yeah I get where you're coming from on this and a lot of that does read it It echoes stuff that I had been bringing up for years, which is overall like um, the the the the long story short of it is that like Yeah, you can talk about making games more easy or making them more, you know Simplifying how how difficult combos are to do or trying to make the experience of getting stuff getting beat down by people who know how to play um, you know, you can try this over and over again, but you're going to get the same results every time and Like the thing that feels and and and it is true that like you're kind of like repeating the same action And you know, you can present it differently like modern mode in Street Fighter 6 did a good job of presenting the same thing differently And people were willing to take to that but Street Fighter 6 is also awarded a lot of privilege that other games in the genre are not um and um People will always work harder and try to play more of a game than you when you have to fight somebody You're always going to face people who've played more and are going to be better at it and we'll be able to do that You're always going to encounter sweats Nothing is going to change that and whatever you feel because you fight somebody who's doing that is that doesn't go away, right? so But overall the the the kind of build up of like all of this and how it affects the numbers and how many times People have tried to do the same thing um You can even the the excuses of kind of like talking about how it is and it is true to some degree that like having a team around you um, you know the feeling of like, um, not blaming um Yourself and all these things have been excuses and things that we've talked about for a while but the the core point of the article is that what matters and what makes people feel good when they play a fighting game is the um the the uh The core idea is you want to feel like an action Uh hero in a movie you want to feel like you're a cool fighter doing cool shit fighting people in like an action sequence, right? That's it. That's that's the core design idea and philosophy that people are looking to to achieve and to accomplish And the more you lean into that and the more you build around that idea and not lose the sight of that the more you're going to be able to attract people with this um And so like yeah something i've i've definitely said for a while is you got to make a good single player experience that people can jump into and Enjoy because people buy games to have that single player experience for in everything these days. That's what they want. Um, they the the in the article describes um Like loading into like a dojo with like you that you picked a clan in particular And sometimes you go in and you might see other people Training and you can like choose to go spar with them or you can choose to go out solo or whatever And i'm like yeah, that's more or less a version of what i was describing where i'm like I want a fighting game where you load in and on the lobby you and you grab your boys or you know You jump on friday night We're gonna go play ranked together you give a place where people can train together the online cooperative experience etc Making it fun to do what people do in other games where you play with a team of people, you know, it says a lot about um mmo's and Uh mobas and stuff like that That doesn't really apply to fighting games because of the team aspect because we've always like we always like Greg on and make fun of people like you can't blame your teammates when you lose if you're playing a fighting game, right? Because it's just you But it does in fact miss out on the fact of like let's take league of legends, right? league of legends Is a toxic shithole invented by scientists to get slurs thrown at you It is it is one of like the worst social experiences you can have with digital content Unless you play with a five stack of people you actually know right, right, right and then the game turns into a Legitimately completely different game, right? I used to play heroes of the storm for a short time with all of my buddies from ff14 And we would be on voice chat chit chatting as we played heroes of the storm that was a Dramatically different game at its core Then queuing in to fight with randoms But with fighting games you're that's kind of your fucking experience unless you go to a local meetup And so so a big analogy that's brought up here in the thing as well is uh, well, there's two things one there is um There's a starcraft 2 comparison that comes up where it's like starcraft 2 was a flawed game from the jump And for years the there's nothing that anyone could do to fix it except only blizzard Were were the ones were the only ones that could have made the game better But they didn't and so what ended up happening was while the game was bad and kind of like on this like Like death roll slow across the years Um, there were people who were making videos and in a community around that of people that were kind of being um I guess like toxically positive was what they were describing Trying to kind of throw a hate toxic positivity so much and and the idea was to kind of be like no no no the game is Fine guys that there's good stuff here. We got to just like wishful thinking into being good, right? And to that effect it's kind of going like so hey So for the content creators that are kind of like doing that with fighting games going like, you know, um Just be positive about it Even if the thing the products that people are getting are not great products That's a bad way to go to which i'm kind of like okay I I get the point of that and I do see how exactly toxic positivity, especially in a development environment like concord is like the worst Whatever um and when something is a bad Bargain or a bad product for people to buy even if there's other shit there. That's that's good You can't ignore that and just be like no no no Um, it's fine if this doesn't have things that people would want to be willing to spend their money on in any other genre's case Because you've already got your chess board and that's all you need right like I get that like for people like us Who are like we like these this core mechanic and that's all we are focused on in this way That is um, you can appeal By focusing on that but you want to sell a game That is competing in the market with every other thing coming out these days. You need to make sure it's a complete product So there's no point in just like gassing up something that sucks Is and that's a bad bargain for people to buy and spend their money on what I will say is just like I was talking about with the magic and magic cards and yugioh and and Games workshop just now. Yeah, is that growing up in a situation and playing fighting games and growing to learn them in a in a um An environment where when you took losses It was like ah, fuck you got me right with the person right there So like that's just kind of like you're still having fun. You like right? No, that you can ah And then that guy can go like no and like you try this and like and like literally like the first Thousands of matches in multiple different games over the years I played were in the room with people going ah and it just kind of was like ah fuck and we're all smiles right Versus that same first hundred matches in your room alone quiet stewing because you just got beat and don't know what happened that feeling is not the same Right and because I know that's not the same. I just don't want to lose this thought because it's gonna escape Yeah, I know I know I'm just like because that feeling is not the same And I know that it it's hard to find that nowadays because you're mostly going to be online playing in this way I want people my whole thing with like fighting games I want people to know that the the cool version of this does exist Like I want to share the thing that felt good about what I got into You know and like to make that happen online is harder. It takes more work You know, I still think it's possible and I also think it helps if you go to a local and see it in person So you can know Oh, this exists and this online version exists But fuck me if it's not harder to find that joy And encouraging thing that wants you that you want to return to Without the in-person Vibes that make it fun to do, you know So I don't know if it's my personality or whatever I could play a set first to 50 in which I lost 50 in a row To a guy who is going wow look at his dumb ass can't do shit And I would feel better after that About the game Then I would losing like Three sets of ranked matches in a row to dead silence Because at the end of the day One I can actually turn into like antagonism or like oh man. Fuck this guy. I'm gonna get better. I'm gonna show him versus The thing I people who watch my streams have actually noticed this where I'll be like Man, I'm fucking trash at fighting. I'll be playing like master rank matches in fucking street fighter 6 And I'll lose like one match. I'm like, I'm just trash, dude. Oh my god I can't I don't know how to play this fucking game at all. Oh my god Dude like I was I was at founzo the barcade in Montreal We were playing I was playing street fighter 4 and I was shitting on a bunch of gief players with blanca Because I learned how to do that match up and this one dude pts one. Where'd you learn that match? Franchic fears asked get the fuck away from me And this one dude pts one came in and we ran the set and he was harder to fight and he was doing shit And at one point he's like, oh, you think you know gief you think you know gief Let's fucking go and I'm like what the fuck and I did every time gief tried to get in and avoid shit I went up ball the fuck out of him and he jumped and I up balled at him and in mid air He did the ultra 2 where he does the fucking sabirian blizzard He catches air speed air air super to catch the up ball and gets up and goes where are you jumping? You know and I lost my shit. I had to go get a beer. I'm like And everyone was like it was just this moment that would tilt you for the rest of the night Was the highlight of that night. You know, I got my ass stopped and it was so fucking good You know and that is like that is hard to capture in this new world we're in You know, I want to tell show people that it is possible, but fuck me difference between hard Playing 2x ko online And jumping in the instant. I hit the fucking up button My brain registers. You just fucking killed yourself Darius goes headless versus in person Playing I'm not to say I haven't played in person, but whatever playing street fighter and hitting the upper button And saying out loud. I just fucking killed myself Sitting next to me going Right like there's a world of difference Yes, the noises that come out of reggie when I'm due galactica phantom You do need to hear those in order for the experience to change, you know, so all all this to say all this to say that um uh overall the the the points laid out were Pretty much correct there and and it's stuff that we had been I've been reiterating for years and and like yeah, you need to just you need to make a game that has all the things that You know people who are veterans of the genre and people who've been playing forever and like skill ceiling, etc All that can be in there all that is not It there is a red herring in getting too caught up in like that part of the game and that the experience when really You're you want to offer a game that has a compelling reason for people to return world tour is a step in the right direction As you know and you want to have things where people can play online together as a group I've been trying to push that idea But as always the caveat between all these things is you can just throw the idea out there because remember there's examples People can go hey Them's fighting herds had the salt mines where you'd go and play an asymmetrical match with other people in a really fun way That was really cool Obsolver lets you join groups and you could do a the parry guild or you can be even the focus attack guild And you can go and just wander and fight or train or do join different dojos, etc But you have to execute it in a way that is good and appealing and makes people go Oh, fuck that's super sick. I want to go play like it needs to be cool as well Like it's not just the feature in and of itself it's got to be unabashedly nakedly appealing and cool and like you need to have the the the The execution of these things be done well world tour is Yeah, you know, it's it's cool on paper in a lot of ways and it does its job But it's not the type of thing that is good enough to return to over a long period of time In order to convince people to go sell the game just on that Hey, woolly I want your armchair opinion onto xko Because I mentioned this last week, but I don't think I got your like thoughts out of it Do you think that It would have been a better release If they put out a significantly worse fighting game That had a full single player suite And local online co-op and more characters Like like like a 20 30% worse game to play Okay, well this this is the next this is the alternate version of what I asked last week Which is what if we got a re-skin of rising thunder? Yeah with more characters, right? Yeah, what would that be and I'm like, yeah, that'd be fine. Would it make more money it prop potentially um but I In terms of the longevity of the thing Like I don't think it would have the legs If it just existed as a more or less kind of mediocre fighter Even with the I don't know if that don't have the legs even like if it just existed as a mediocre fighter that had the characters And if the people like you know what I actually really want to see and talk on my and talk on might answer this question You know what I want to see more than even money numbers for 2x ko I want to see the fucking rank distribution Oh, yeah, that'd be interesting because I want to I want to see How many people are living their best life are doing dailies In bronze based entirely on oh man, it's jinx from arcane So it probably looks exactly similar to the um the street fighter 6 Stuff that we see uh candy cat is uh somebody who does stats for street fighter 6 rankings and you can see the the The rank up the amount of players and you can see how like it goes up to a certain Or it drops off at a certain point and then shoots back up with master rank where people get to that point and then stop Um, it looks probably the same in most of these games, you know There's a steady decline and then there's a jump at at master or grand master in this case And then people are like, okay, I made it. I'm good, you know and um Yeah, and I think that's also an important thing to do is to create a like because the the journey through ranked to get to that master with a like a stopping point for people even Uh, uh, you know, if you if you'd like to if you care to get to get to that point It's nice because in a game where going through ranked is the only real progression thing there is to do You've created a goal But that is still a replacement for what could be a really solid single player experience That on boards you and teaches you how to get better at playing against other people, right? Like it's replacing that the stopping point for master is a replacement for a you know, some sort of single player Yeah, um But yeah, anyway, that that was kind of the the the gist of what I kind of saw And I mean I need I need to go continue and get to the rest of it But it was kind of interesting to see like um aspects of the discussion where Uh, you know, they're going they're looking at different perspectives that were appeared over the years like Uh, oh no team equals no excuses or no rng is too brittle to the ego Uh fighting games are a doomed genre like rts and arena shooters You know hard games can't be popular anymore. Etc. Etc. Etc. Hard games can't be popular is the craziest one I mean you're go play counter strike Fucking wash didn't fucking counter strike man. No, I there is a very clear phenomenon Which is hard games that have a crowd of people partying in the room next door People that are not as good want to go what's going on in that room? I want to know Right fomo applies and they go, I I want to get good. I want to enjoy what other dark souls is literally that You know a lot of it is the popularity breeds more popularity yeah, and and if the popular thing is the hard thing and People can you know see how to rise to the equate the occasion than they will You know they there's a there's a pathway to it and you see them people doing that And definitely in other genres and other games for sure Anyway, um, I I didn't mean for this whole tangent to fucking dominate the beginning of the poskester I didn't even get to my week or talk about any of that shit. I don't know I tell you what I gotta I'm gonna piss my pants. Okay. No, go do it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and there's no, no I'm not gonna go piss my pants. I'm gonna go pee in the toilet. Okay. Okay, but like a man. Yeah Uh, we tangented but uh brb. 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So that was a that was uh out of the way um big old chunk of it And uh, you know, we are we are getting to the end in expedition 33 um Had to take a brief detour to go read to go address the build because uh, I mentioned that last week Yeah, so I I did I went and I basically like I did a full audit of of regis characters and set up and We we make this fuck this shit up now. Yep. And so we had a nice little like educational like here's how we fucking power play for the end game And like it's one of those sessions that's not progress um Based but if you're somebody who's like You like making builds in these games and like sort of like tweaking to Optimize and play with the picto system and stuff. You might enjoy it We're gonna I'm gonna make their the episodes are gonna be like chunkier because I know that not everybody's looking for non-progress episodes But if you if you have fun with like building and tinkering and stuff check them out. You might like it It's a it's a fun one of the only games of full rework my life That doesn't just multiply the base number. It multiplies the end result. Yes, that's it Like it's anytime 50 more is listed. It's in your favor. It gives you the best math. Love that um So the only other thing to uh mention for this week is uh, I had a stream go up Uh, it was titled down the woolly hole I did not elaborate on what it was I mean, yes, but that's neither here nor there The uh, we had a stream did it yesterday and uh, I was joined by fox cade who came over And basically the premise of this is something that I thought about some time ago But I've talked to a bunch about how I used to love wiki diving You know, I used to just start on an article somewhere and just spend the night Going through reading a bunch and who knows where you'd wind up, but you'd learn a whole bunch And it was cool. Um Those days are are far beyond and you know, I don't have the time anymore but You know deep inside me is still that person who went all the way down the time cube website Until I found the truth Of why time cube came to be you know Got old time. Yeah deep down inside. I'm still that person that has that curiosity I just don't have the options or opportunity to do those types of dives anymore and uh, so I came across that there are Uh, you know, there are internet rabbit holes out there and people Do cover them from time to time and from when I was just looking around I can see that A lot of them tend to be like a lot of people tend to go down like creepy pasta style rabbit hole diving and Yeah, that's a good old time to have a creepy pasta. Yeah, it's and it's not necessarily what I'm talking about I like random topics that just keep going And you learn a bunch of shit that like just you never would have come across otherwise Um, I'm kind of shocked you didn't know about the cheese caves already. Okay. So yeah, you saw some of that Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I skimmed basically I went through your stream and I skimmed until I saw like a full white page Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I'm like, okay. What is this? Oh the cheese caves. Yeah, I know about the cheese caves So I know about I heard I heard about government cheese And I and I remember hearing that they were stored underground, but I didn't know the depths of of all that Listen man, the government's not in the in the business of picking winners and losers except for this one Except for this one Big fan of how it always, you know, like someone came along and Was like, well, what are we talking about? What what is government cheese? And it's like it always comes back to trickle down crack in the hood. Don't you know Don't you know the trickle down crack in the in the hood is is why Government cheese is gonna keep agriculture going Anyway, so uh the the what I came across was uh Quality rabbit holes, which are not just somebody going. Hey, here's this weird tiktok or instagram account with creepy videos on it What is this all about? I don't know anyways by or just like It's a long long Era away from what's this marvel hornets website? Yeah. Yeah, but you know, we're far from there This is that that's it right it ain't this it ain't that anymore and sometimes there's people that like Do like the first layer of something weird, but it's like oh, this is not even worth investigating It's it seems to just be honestly like a a i gibberish or Someone in high school just doing some random shit or there's nothing here, right? But every once in a while there's something that is a quality rabbit hole And so I found quality rabbit holes and there was just a list of like things that people were diving into And doing a write-up on and I was like, oh, this is interesting And before I read it. I was like hold on this might be fun to stream you know um And so I was talking to foxkate about this and he said yo that sounds really good. I'm down call me up and so He came on jumped on stream and we went down some quality rabbit holes We learned about many a thing and uh, yeah, those those are going to be going up on the channel You know this week, but I just kind of like I enjoyed just the randomness of like learning about Micronations, you know of australia and Molosia and I had like I had heard about sea land and I taught I told everybody about that a lot of people didn't know about sea land And then sea land is like the top and then you from sea land you then go into All this shit including kick asia Which had to do with like channel awesome and all this stuff and things that I didn't know about that stuff But i'm just starting over here and then we just connect the whole through line of all these different micro nations that got created and why and where um deep diving into yes the government cheese caves deep diving into the people who When you need to disappear from society in japan You can hire mother fuckers to come and erase you and Literally like they're called the the yoni gea, which is like the evaporated And they will hide you from whatever and basically move you into an unknown location and protect you with like briefcases that turn into shields and shit and they do basically like uh, what's his name and and and um Breaking bad walter You know and and it's just that like there's a whole thing about people in japan who need to disappear hire these dudes yeah, no, there's a there's a That's a like a dragon storyline. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah people who need to erase their names, right exactly. Yeah, um It was it was great. It was great. I had a lot of fun with that. Um, fucking Detour into um, I should point out. It's the worst like a dragon storyline. Oh, no It's the worst one. It's the storyline. The uh, that's part of the new universe. Right, right, right um uh I saw a gift of uh Curious taking the shades off or taking the glasses off and being like I remember my name now It's like It's kind of like a dragon Yeah Anyway, um Yeah, and all the way into the first american fascist plot to take over during the fdr era and install smedley butler as the American dictator back in the day Learned about that shit and going like wait what? And it's like, you know, you go down the the the breakdown of so who are the people trying to do this? Oh Oh, the corporations that's still in this to exist to this day Oh, press a probably press got bush the du pot corporation good year tires. You say huh interesting Oh jp morgan chase. What are they up to these days? The bank jp jp morgan chase the financial institution. What happened? You know and you're just reading and finding out like yeah, literally this same group of companies Just tried to fucking go full on out and it seems like uh, they realized Oh, yeah being obvious and brash about it. It's kind of dumb. Let's just slink back into the shadows and do it quietly Yeah, man, we got the money in the time. You know um So, you know, there's a whole there's a whole that's that's one one of them as well And uh, it was fun. I liked it. Yeah, just diving down these random topics and uh Kind of taking moments whenever something occurs to branch off and go investigate here and there I also started with the uh, the the curling the curling touch back controversy in the olympics going on where canada was accused of cheating And uh, and and there's a whole there's a whole thing to you know Accuse multiple accusations of canada cheating at the olympics. You know, it's kind of like the audacity the audacity How dare you? How dare you come at us? Sweden is the ones that really cheated if you think about it I mean really just are you familiar with the actual reasoning behind that line of thought What happened? So the canadians cheat at curling they do I seen it. I've seen it that Just because you slow down the finger poking Right before I'll have you know so okay Funny okay, so uh to break kayfabe for a second um The bit was supposed to be that is the most blatant cheating. I have ever seen in my life It's pretty blatant. I know I showed the video to page and she gasped Okay, so the bit was supposed to be that's the most blatant cheating I've ever seen in my life and I'm going to come in and just sandbag it right But in the process of reading about it There's a whole part where they said you're allowed to poke it Before the line And then on the video he pokes it before the line So you're like oh wait hold on It's actually a questionable call Because they zoom in on the poke and everyone thinks the poke is the cheat but the poking is not the cheat It's about being before or after the line and it's like on you have it right on that line So it's like is it the beginning of the line or the end of like where is it? You know and that's where the whole thing arises but the first time I saw that shit I was like that's the most fucking insane dirty cheating ever You're only allowed to touch the handle woolly You're allowed to you're allowed to no no there's a rule apparently We just read about this thing you can do that But it has to be before that it has to be before the line You're allowed to do a second touch, but it has to be before the line, right? So the question was was it or was it not? You know and I when looking at the video with the slowdown I was like that looks way more blatant Just not knowing the rule and then the rule turns out that it's that extra thing Anyway, uh Olympic cheating, you know Um, well, hey man, russia can't have all the fun The actual kerfuffle is the canadian team is outraged at sweden because it's also against the rules to video record it for playback Oh curling The curling uh decisions are not made with video playback. It's one of those weird sports where they absolutely refuse to make calls spaced off Okay, okay, okay like baseball rejecting the the replay for um Oh, man. Yeah And you think that's too traditional where there's like umps or refs that are like nah techno fuck this technology It's it's it's it's destroying tradition. That's insane. That's completely insane. Just get the lasers out I don't know where you're seeing that you can touch the fucking stone again Uh, all right, let's see. Let me see if I can pull it up. We can take the detour Uh Because in the end again, I was I was getting properly ready to just pretend canada was absolutely uh In the right despite being blatantly in the wrong, but then we ended up zooming in and seeing that aspect of it Uh, let me go pull it up again. Let me see what I was looking at All right, so there was an article about the olympic cheating. I have a link to it over here and Reject all thank you Uh, you're never allowed to touch the bottom ever. Okay, so ever according to the world curling policy a moving stone cannot be touched beyond the hog line But it is not a violation if a thrower double touches the rock before the line This is the sentence I read yesterday that is informing my opinion right now So here's the thing you're able to you're able to hold on to or touch the handle Anytime you want before the line You're never allowed to touch Anything but the handle okay Ever so what I just read is the sentence I read yesterday It doesn't specify the details you just mentioned, but this is why I said what I just said. Yeah um I will this is barely related But as soccer also does not use video replay for cards If you dive you should have your legs broken on on on on the pitch. Thank you I mean, okay, so the more By taking a dive is part of the sport The more I am in favor of your your blood sports policy being implemented Yeah, no, but you know what keep it as part of the sport keep it as part of the sport But if you get caught But it comes jimmy hammers But every once in a while in sports where you see like dives are common you see one motherfucker That's like no, I'm breaking legs and going crazy Like um, um, uh god, I forgot his name in the nba. There's that we we talked about it a while ago The dude that was just jumping on top of people on the ground um Or I saw a replay of a highlight reel of someone in uh, fifa Like just actually kicking people like in the balls and shit and you're kind of like What yeah, dream on green dream on green exactly and and I forgot who it was in in uh, Soccer but you're like people take dives and like every once in a while someone comes and's like no no no You're not going to take a dive. I'm actually out here to goon and fucking In the hockey sense of the term goon. Hockey knows what's what's up, right? You can dive in hockey, but then the other team's going to be like i'm going to hit that motherfucker Like if you you can dive in hockey you can pretend to fall down on your pussy But then they'll go for you on the on the next go around and they'll get you and that's fine Yeah, the the original the sports original term of the word goon. I think um Um It is it is it is quite wild to see all this Uh going on with like camera again camera zooming in and all that shit is is where the controversy is Versus like the wild insane shit that russia was doing Just a couple years ago. Was it so chi I think where it was like every single day Some new shit was coming out with like like motherfuckers were showing up to the to the starting line with syringes hanging out of their backs like Which do you think is more outrageous cheating because we have three main types of cheating that i'm familiar with right One is that motherfucker is touching the rock. It's not what the fuck like mechanical cheating Right, then there's chemical cheating And then there's the one that I know china loves to do Which is in certain sports where it's advantageous to be smaller We're like every single woman on this team adult and you're like No, they're like absolutely right sure sure sure none of these are 10 year olds sure sure sure that can jump super hard Uh, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say the ones with the um the syringes and the penis inflation Um and the oh right. Yeah, you can do penis inflation penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, those I'm gonna say those are highest on the list those are highest on the list What sport was that? Um does ski jump ski jump. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Like a penis for a bigger jump. Yeah Um add a little and a little extra fabric on the on the wing suit at the in between the crotch um if you get uh yeah, if you if you If you fuck with your your crotch in in your suit and in in your real life Um, it adds to the height and the difference. There's like people showing the trajectory difference You can get massive big air any amount of tightness you can put onto the suit By by increasing your surface area gives you a wider air resistance, which lets you fly farther off the jump And and unfortunately, I think the ones that are close to like you're technically on the line level rule breaking Or the ones where it's like again, we've talked about this before the the Ukrainians in the dugout stealing signs with fucking With tech and fucking I think Sign stealing in fucking baseball is the coolest shit But but but it's so unhyped to have it be like and now we have the sign stealing robot that is scanning you And you cannot communicate. So we must give our pitchers psionic Telekinetic communication You know what I actually just love about sign stealing is that there is a way around sign stealing It's when the pitcher just goes i'm just gonna throw the fucking ball. Sure. Sure I'm just like that's what I love about it. Yeah, any given time the pitcher can just go I'm just gonna fucking do whatever. I think I think the um The the the catcher I don't know why the tradition is such that the catcher and the pitcher have to confer over what the best because if they throw A fucking crazy ass wide curve the catcher has to get ready to catch it or it'll fly past the catcher and then the They can just fucking run for base. Okay It's not because there is a Strategic thing where the catcher is like I know a lot about who's coming like where there the the pitcher is making the decision There and the catcher is basically like tell me where the ball is going to go Yeah, the catcher doesn't catch the ball then the is a fucking free run Okay, I didn't know if it was something where like the catcher is also part of like part of the decision making process Like a qb or so and then you're kind of the play is according to that. Okay. Well in that Yeah, either way like yeah, there's wireless ways to communicate all that shit now But using non using machines and tech that was not illegal at the time or didn't exist at the time to like borderline enhanced things to to the point they're at now is like that's already happening in a ton of ways like I think um Where like someone I remember someone was kind of describing the the things that like like LeBron's regimen And like the calculated the every single thing about every inch of his body Is like hyper toned and specifically Figured to playing better, you know, and there's all these things that were just completely impossible in the past and stuff Um, and if you're using that and that's again technically not illegal then it's it's gonna happen Anyway, someone is going to lab shit that you're not labbing to get better at it, right gsp Uh had a person in his corner who took Uh, literally startup frames as a concept in from video games and from like fighting games and applied it to Real-life fighters that he was going up against and would show you this guy His jab will connect with you within this many frames of starting up or like this quickly and they they Check the tape and go he throws his jab out this quickly. You got to look out for this He throws this kick out this quickly you got to look out for that and they would have Frame data for his opponents, you know, that was not obviously they're back in the day, but we get to this point so All of that gets way more gray and dubious than um, the fucking Abomination and the hulk are on the starting line And again, I can see the the bane venom in the like flowing in Before the ref shoots the pistol in the air, you know Um Anyways, uh, that was that too was a rabbit hole of sorts that we got into so Yeah, if you want to check out any of that stuff, uh, it's going to be coming out on the channel as well Uh, there were there were a few other random topics. Uh, we hit on as well Um, but definitely had a lot of fun. I'm going to be doing that again And uh, yeah always a fun time hanging out with Shane um, and That's gonna be pretty much it so uh this week i'm gonna do some more Expedition 33 and then we have, um, Thursday where i'm gonna try out. Romeo is a dead man um Looks cool. I saw some demsy rolls seems kind of sick I saw the game over for that and it's one of the most violent things i've ever seen in my fucking life. Oh, yeah Fucking crazy and and what i'm hearing is that the reviews coming in are extremely divisive Which is absolute absolute peak suda Is i've been hearing that it plays into the hey, I made this shit bad on purpose level of suda 51 design God, which could be genius. There we go. All right. Take me back. Let's see it. Let's see it Right might combat you might I might show up next week going. What the fuck was that? Like listen no more heroes too is like a very flawed game um and The the end of it fucking sucks but I do respect a creator Who will come out and be like I made the end fucking suck on purpose That's cool yeah, I um I no more heroes is full of cool shit um I will say that like it I Remember like especially back in the day that felt more like I definitely know that like you know like matt loved it and stuff You guys you liked normal heroes pretty much, right? I love no more heroes one one. Okay I One is pretty great. There's a lot. I love and there's a there's a lot I don't love and I always kind of feel that divisiveness in my heart when it comes to the franchise, you know Like I was never the one that was like at the front lines on it but there's shit that is cool and um And then there was also the um the the the top down game that I played for a bit there that oof that was rough Travis strikes again was pretty brutal. Um But all this to say that um, I respect the balls to take a wild swing, which he does so Um And yeah, I hear I hear great things about number one swing is do you think a wild swing is less impressive when every swing is a wild swing? When it becomes well now we're talking about m. Night Shyamalan, right? Now now it's like well now it's your standard and this is actually predictable in that way Because no more heroes like well in all in silver case and all that insane shit. It's like Wow, this guy's so crazy. Yeah, but he's crazy like the same way every time It's there's there's something to the you know the Tarantino of it or the you know, you're known for doing the wild thing But that's that and so it's going to be unpolished in a way on purpose Yeah, I'm playing my genius koh jumbo game. Do you think there's going to be a third act reveal that It's fucking shoots way too hard into the sun. Yes. Yes. I do think that um for everyone that is Let it saying that Travis strikes again goes places and it's actually really great. I'll say that that first Couple hours impression of it didn't do much to give that To get that point across if it goes places after that then cool But I played about four or five hours and I I did not see it I I've spent an outrageous Some total of hours in my life waiting for something to get good and I'm not doing it anymore I you know, I just because sometimes it does And the times that it doesn't I'm like, oh sick I super wasted my time Um, yeah, we don't I can't I can't be I can't be wasted time Uh, anyway, that's pretty much it. Um, so yeah, come check this out And then we're gonna do some fighting games on saturday as well. So let y'all know um Let's touch on Some of this state of play stuff. There was a lot Well, yeah, of course There's there's money to be made sir. No, no, woolly. No This is not a there's money to be made scenario. Really? It has been 18 Fucking years since a side scrolling classic Castlevania game Order of Ecclesia came out in the aughts, man Oh, the okay, hold on You scream so Castlevania is back But Castlevania is back, but Dracula is alive Is is what right the Dracula from the the castlevania you're familiar with Castlevania character Dracula I am I am and I that's I'm like is he's all like I I take that as a given seeing as it is Castlevania And that it's like you you're not gonna ever get rid of fucking Dracula Like I thought the first second you were like, oh there were games without him or something Oh, there's a ton of games without him. Oh really? Okay, I didn't know that. Okay. I didn't know that. I there's a ton. There's there's a bunch of them. Oh, wow. I didn't know. Okay. Yeah Fair enough Okay, so the people who are saying mirror of fate by mercury steam accounts as a 2d castlevania No, shut up. That is all that is that that is the amount of time I will spend on that conversation It's been 18 years And they're gonna put out a new goddamn Real-ass castlevania game and it's being made by both of the dead cells studios dead cells dead cells Yeah, that's that they just gave it over. That's pretty sick And it's like wow that part where they were like, hey, we're making a dead cells expansion called return to castlevania And it's the biggest expansion by far and we love it. We love it so much Okay, it is kind of funny though when like Because you know how like for example like prince of persia. It's like, okay, we gave we got two new prince of persia as well Different ideas going on here and they just kind of handed it off to people that loved the franchise and were willing to do something cool with it That's right. Like It is definitely better than Just letting it sit and rot to like get someone who's like in love with it and already made their own indie things that were love letters to then come in and Do a cool idea here. Yeah, but there's that part where you're like You're so far from where you were that you as a studio can't make what you made back in the day Well, so you got to get Somebody who's like of the new generation of like talented about this Creators to come in and save or make the cool new idea You know, I talked about this because um like imagine if konami had not like fucked up and fired all those people and gone all in on Pachinko, they would be like the number one Japanese developer right now With how they like managed to start to turn it around But instead they threw away like decades of talent with every yeah with everything with all everything that they owned with everything Just threw it away. Yeah um And you know, whatever classic greed etc. They they fucking like before the industry even was crashing konami just shot themselves in the foot and and dived into the pachinko but but all this to say that um It the the idea of like We're in that age where the company that owns the ip No longer has the ability to do it themselves, but they can't find no longer have the people Yes, of course And did blutsy too exactly and people and those people have gone on to either leave and do their own things Or they've inspired a new generation of people to make their own Similar things and those people can come at it from the other side and go. Hey, I love this shit enough My dream would be to make it officially and they're like, okay. Well, we're not fucking doing anything with it. Here you go You know So yeah, motion twin doing that Castlevania curse of belmont Is fucking it's fucking coming. It's the third curse game They're all trevor games So I saw the description saying this they say the protagonist is trevor belmont's successor Yeah, it's sonia belmont. Okay, because it's sonia belmont used to be trevor's mom in a game that never came out um, and now it will be sonia belmont who is going to be the sypha and trevor Uh kid, which is why it looks so much like sypha So well, they're playing games with announcing who it is clearly right like yeah, it's it's gonna be sonia. Okay um Looks very cool and um Man, it looks great. So it's a really good rendition of bloody tears um So what was cuts before the the primary thrusts of the song It the the the bloody tears version they have during that trailer is all the lead up To the core part of bloody tears that they cut Which to me says that will either be like the first piece of music you hear in the game or the last piece of music You're in the game What was the last cannon? timeline game or timeline that would have been Is it donna sorrow or is it it's because it's not order of ecligia in It's donna sorrow people are saying order of ecligia can't read by the way. Okay. They actually they don't know how to read Okay words Okay um, so Uh, in addition to this kick-ass looking castlevania game. That's a 2d game. They said that for castlevania's 40th anniversary They have multiple projects in the works um Judging on the things they have crossed over within the past is a decent start uh And considering the effort going into resurrecting metal gear and silent hill It's not surprising that castlevania is the third pillar of beloved ip's they're they're trying to do shit with again So i'm like konami still sucks as a company probably with everyone involved on the decision making process That i want again by handing them off to other people and going here you take it. I don't know And it's like you know, you know what fine fine If you're gonna hold the ip's and just give it to other people who give a shit that works too. I guess I believe that they will be making um a prestige 3d action game castlevania That will be the demon war of 1999 I believe that is the game they will announce after This game comes out Am I remembering you saying this back in college? Correctly Let me check I feel like 20 years ago You told me no you you heard me Say this back in 2008. Okay Okay, when lords of shadow had been announced But you hadn't tested it yet okay Because I I am harkening back to I am remembering a time where yes, I keep hearing about 1999 and the big crazy game that can take place there But they never did it. You know what sucks dude. You know what really sucks? I really love castlevania. I haven't played all of them, but the ones I have and played a bunch of times I'm crazy about castlevania, but I didn't talk about it nearly as much as I wanted to Because that guy existed in our periphery Yeah, and bringing up castlevania would like activate him and he would crawl out of a sewer grave No, that's you gotta just ignore that you gotta just Oh, man, you say that but I remember That motherfucker You can't let you can't let it's not rondo of blood. It's fucking well, whatever the fuck it was don't die on me x Anyway Yeah, castle castle. I I I just pulled back to that trailer like 10 times in the stream. I was doing later that night Yeah, no, um, I can I am imagining that like The Del set dead cell dudes are kind of just like okay Time to go back to everything I've doodled since I was a child And bring it all up and put it into The dream game that I'm getting to actually make holy shit. I'm getting to actually make this and it's also It's also cashing in on the aesthetic of the castlevania animated series, which was very popular Yeah, yeah, um, it's such a bummer to hear that like the The series the Netflix series like took a bad turn because the the first ones I watched were so good Did it take a bad turn? Everyone says the latest stuff on it was shit I'm hearing a lot of shit. I'm hearing negativity about the the latest season. I saw people say it wasn't as good But not that it was shit. Okay um And and you know not to mention the the whole background Addie Shankar Like like not involved involved, uh, etc. Confusing confusing aspects of it. But anyway, um Yeah, that was a big one. Um couple other things from state of play as well Um, yeah, there were a couple that was a lot of stuff in that fucking thing Beast of reincarnation the new game freak game um, it's it's so interesting to look at it and be like Okay, they they spent like right away in this game Right, the first thing they do is they show you a couple of like the second row deflects Right, like like kind of parry moments and like one thing is like, okay The parry is now mainstream in a way that it has never been before There's a lot man parry slop. We are now in the era like as something that Used to be so rare and I would fucking pop off whenever I got a chance at it I can't believe how many things are built around parries now. It's kind of weird to look around and see it everywhere um But uh, no, there's some cool stuff in it, but it is kind of interesting seeing like like camera movement and music that is reminiscent of near-automata and like Night and armor designs that look a bit elden ring and golden trees and things and then stuff that's also a little bit. Um What was there's a it was near and and elden and uh, and yeah a little bit of secchi row in how some of those bosses kind of You know sequences are playing out and stuff and you're kind of like yeah Just just a little bit of everything kind of coming together to to this for this game so beast of reincarnation might be the the recipient of my most Uncharitable and unfair thought process. I've ever had in my life against any game word Um, I'm watching the trailer and I'm and my brain is like legitimately going every single NPC entry in this is a pokemon they didn't make good Every every single rock And jump and piece of music is time. They were like let's just phone pokemon in the Anti-pokémon dollars And like This is like the least fair shit that is super unfair that is super unfair toxic as fuck. Jesus christ Um, I when I first saw it for a second. I kind of was like I thought it was um A game from china, you know, I thought it was one of those action games that were coming out of china that were like in that style That I was like, oh, no, it's gay. You thought I was trying to slap. Is that a term now? No, I just said it. Well, it can be because I know what you mean The moment you said it my brain completely synthesized the idea and a bunch of titles filled up that folder And now I know exactly what that word means Oh, somebody just posted an art. I like who slop who slop is better. Let's go with who slop I don't like the Super bro posted in the chat an article that basically points out that game freak is barely even making beast of reincarnation They're actually just outsourcing it to like 12 different companies Ah, okay. Well calling them the developer is a little misleading then Yeah, um Well, what did we see? Um, there was uh that there's crimson moon um, which it was that thing with the the the Night that was had the hoodie on that looked kind of like a dark ciders character and then a bunch of Metal that was a fucking dark ciders. I thought it was dark side I'm looking at the hoodie sword guy with the armor and then a bunch of butt metal starts playing I thought it was fucking dark ciders for a while butt metal with hoodie swordmen Fighting the demons and I'm like this is super dark ciders coated and then you see an Angel with wings showing up behind them And you're like, yeah, it looks like it could be cool, but it's not dark ciders. Um, it's From a studio called probably monsters And when I went to look up who probably monsters was The only game listed in their credits is concord Oh Interesting Fascinating Now what were you saying about pokemon dollars? Well, you can tell they really didn't take a lot of work off the project to work on concords They kept their all their eggs in the correct basket. It looks like a cool game. I don't know what's going on, but seems all right I just All right Dettor alive is back Um, just zoom in on a fat parrot tits That was crazy age 99 man crazy, man Because it's like it like here we are you're of our lord 2026 Look at him jiggle Wherever you go, there you are Um, they know they know what they're selling Uh new dead or alive project and dead or alive six last rounds coming back um And I mean realistically immediately after a titty bounce There's one other thing you need to see and that's Ryu Hayabusa doing in a zuna drop That's great. And you're like, yeah, okay. Yep. That's not our life. We're good Um, that's trending two they saw a virtual fighter rise from the dead and they were like fuck that Yeah, basically basically and you know what? Uh, I think that is also around they looked at tec en on fire and also went hmm Right, so I think I think this might have been a case of tec en is on fire and they went hmm And then virtual fighter fucking rose up and they're like, oh no, you don't You know virtual fighter have begun to move We must answer in return Um And uh death stranding two pc Wow shirt Uh god of war trilogy remake With the original kratos apparently a lot of people owe their lives to sony now I don't know if you've you've been familiar with this over the past What's up years But before sony's state of play People would post that fucking photo of kratos going. Oh my life right and they'd be like my life For so it would be sony my life for a god of war trilogy remaster. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay I I feel like the way that trailer went with uh tc carson like, um, I feel like uh There's like the way he announced it was it was like This is it felt like he was pushing for something for a long time And then it finally got a green light or something was the impression that that trailer kind of gave You know because it's just literally him just standing there just just what that says to me is that he is going to To re-record that fucking of course he is he wouldn't be so excited. Of course he is and he's just like yucking it up For them to fucking tone down what an absolute piece of shit psycho kratos is I wonder if they will I wonder if they will I mean like the tie-ins is the worst ever the tie-ins to make it fit into the timeline and such are clearly going to be there But toning it down. I wonder if they actually they should tone it up Make it even worse make him even less likeable Oh Just him in a time in an alternate timeline fighting off his wife and child Like endlessly coming at him and he's just doing compost to a room full of wife and children I think I think I think we can I think there's like a single question Anybody who gets ahold of them can ask them that will answer everything you need to know which is um, is the puzzle solution Using posidon's princess the same in god of war three because that is the moment that the character like Fundamentally breaks as even a protagonist. It's like the most cruel and violent thing for literally no reason I've ever seen in a game. I'm glad you brought it up because I wasn't because I feel like the last time I did a bunch of people got on my ass for for being like, oh, you're overreacting and No, whatever it's and I'm like, okay character I'm playing and I have no control over this action and it's mindlessly cruel I was discussed like I was disgusted by that that aspect of the game creatively combined with the The the achievement that pops up That says I didn't do it I didn't do it But I wish I did I believe Was the text that popped up? It was the most fucked up thing that made me actively hate everything about that god of war like I I It's a weird thing that turned me the fuck around on it Like viscerally and I did I just I wasn't gonna go into that right now because some people get really sensitive about that But it was like that fucking sucked and was gross It just god what a shitty stupid thing to do what's gonna happen in the new game Is he's gonna go to do it and then be like wait no I respect women And find a rock to do it or she's gonna help him and together they're both gonna go And then open the great the gate to like here's the thing I think that part of the game is like disgusting and like I actually like like was oh and I think back on it Don't change it now you fucking pussies though like yeah, you built a whole game like god of war 2018 the whole game is built on your memory of wow Kratos was like the most awful piece of garbage that I've ever played as in a game and the whole Time he's you're in and it's always your fault just wandering around going man I was like the worst person that's ever lived and it's and and it's always your fault You know that's the thing but like yeah, there's always those those moments and this is whatever there's a longer weirder conversation about the bit, but I feel like um There's the thread that's very thin that you kind of walk on when you play characters like that in games where in order for you to Basically still continue to be like well i'm using to still stomach the protagonist essentially there's a part of like you're doing it to people who deserve it and You also just don't give a fuck about innocent life that much But you're not going out of your way to kill innocent people You're just indifferent to their loss right yeah So like a really good example is god of war one where you need a box to progress and it ends up burning a spartan soldier kratos is callous and amoral but it is an absolutely necessary aspect of progression This eventually leads to like him just Him just going for like cruel puzzle solutions Just to do it and then and then and that's where you go So the line word going along here with you have to then go What was the intent of the people making that scene? What were they thinking about that scene and did they do that because they thought that the people who play these games Wanted that you know is this one of those elfin lied moments of going We think we know what you want gamer. We think you want this Let's shove a fucking girl into the into the cogs of this thing to open the gate when you didn't like that's something that you're gonna like right chivo and you go What is this what the fuck is this there is an old interview that I will never be able to find but trust me it lives on in my mind and it was about enslaved journey to the west by ninja theory in which the journal was talking to One of the devs who was showing off the very beginning of the game Where there's a guy dangling off the side of the airship um And he's like, oh help me or whatever and monkey just kicks him off the airship for no for nothing and The the dev goes this is how this is one of the moments that we show How monkey's a fucking badass and doesn't give a fuck and the journal was like this actually just made me feel like monkey is a psycho asshole and is stupid Like that going but yeah, just I this this was one of the first moments I remember in games where I had this weird um What's I don't know what kind of dissonance it is but whatever writing dissonist Whatever it was it fucking it it snaps me out of it and and I know so what I don't know if you it's a dissonance but there's there's a weird trend in the 360 ps3 era of video game protagonists that are so unrepentantly unlikeable and violent That the story wants you to identify with and care about And then like I remember playing god of war. I played god of war one two Three and then one of the prequels I think was changed asparta And like kratos is like sad about his family. I'm like your family is better off dead away from me Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I and I think echoes of this you know with whenever like echoes of moments where um Like you fucking hit man absolution Just like we're fucking cutting up these nuns, right? Or whatever the the the nun murder scene the sexy dead corpse nun scene and all that Yeah, and I mean I brought up elfin light because the same kind of thing where like there's just you have a moment of going like Going like you know does like Hey viewer, are you excited by like watching the woman get killed? Are you getting a bow from that? Is that I know you're setting me up. I know you're setting me up for to bring up the absolute queen of that era Nothing could top it It fucking reboot tomb raider Oh the pain peak Of jerking off while animating death ant scenes Just on like unbelievable. Yeah So that shit anytime i'm seeing watching or playing anything where you get a moment of like What were you going for here? This is weird. I fucking it rips me the fuck out. God damn. It's fucking weird um Yeah, and I can understand there they are already the no no you know, okay fine cool. You don't feel that great actually Makes me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Back in 2005 a video game came out called resneville 4 and in resneville 4 leon can be dismembered and violently murdered in a Huge variety of ways in a way that you could compare it to tomb raider However, one of the funniest things about it and I it was I it is actually really funny If you play re4 long enough is that almost every single fucking time leon dies He always has the shittiest death noise ever. He goes And it's fucking hilarious when you're trying to Like beat a tough area on professional. He just makes that fucking god awful noise It's stupid. It's like it's almost slapstick So I did not get that vibe playing Tomb raider in the aughts. I also did not get that vibe playing resident evil 3 remake And seeing the fact that there is a violent sex death from a bug in that game Oh, yeah A Bug sex death you say. Yeah. No, I'll send it to you. Okay. Okay. We can get your live reaction well, so What I will say about tomb raider is that like you kind of go in with a little bit of like Are you you're established? Like what do you try to establish here when you have these moments? You go like oh, you're trying to establish that she's a survivor and that she can overcome brutal things that you would probably give up on and she's tough and she's strong and Can oh and she it's the survivor trilogy, right? You know a quote unquote, but There is a there is a point in time. There is an amount. There is a hit a point you hit where you're like Are we still going for that or is something else supposed to be happening right now? You know, are you are you hoping for the viewer to feel a different way about this moment for sure? um Anyway, I I knew like I'm like the kratos conversation always kind of goes here because it fucking it's such a weird moment in video games But uh, it sucks. But like I you you got it. You got it from hitman. You got it from there's a couple of things out there. There's um The other one I fucking remember feeling that on was um That first episode of goblin slayer or whatever, you know, like there's just There's these there's these moments of like All right, so I have time stamped this shit for you. It's about 10 seconds long. We can get the live woolly reaction And go Drain dimos kill a taxine All right, and there it goes and oh Oh Hold on is this youtube or a different website that's youtube So I remember yeah Yeah Fucking break dude Yeah that By the way, that's the forced cutscene the kill animation is actually considerably more graphic. Gotcha um Again that was not source filmmaker No, no that was that I I played that on stream and was like, ah Okay Yeah, um They know what they're doing They and I think it's rude When they pretend that we don't know that they know what they're doing I think that's rude to do I Was there Oh my god. Look what happens when you type in re3 drain dimos Scene on fucking youtube you get the video I just sent you and then the one underneath it is on request beck a skirt And drain And it's her and a fucking schoolgirl outfit Oh my god, yeah Well, there you go, right if you have if there's anyone arguing otherwise the fucking search algorithm the algorithm Has has has proved the point um Played for fools What was the company that made the tweet that was like? Oh my god, she's got the grippers Do you know what i'm talking about? I don't remember There was some I wasn't I don't know if it was overwatch or some official account That was like zooming in on on the toes exposed On one of their character models. It was overwatch, right? Yeah, it was overwatch Going big eyeball emojis. Oh, she's got the grippers Yeah Don't don't pretend don't pretend All right, um Where was that fucking yeah, all right, there was um Ghost of yote legends the the min says the last time that was really sick the co-op um Super demon mythology like I heard good things. Yeah I mean basically like a night rain before night rain almost, right? Um, so cool John wick game cool um Hope it actually is a good Fun to play game because that would be nice, wouldn't that because it feels like you can hand that off to A ton of companies that would just be like yeah, just make a game where there's all these big kills and good enough But then the actual game sucks so Um, oh the end and gameplay wise that that's all they showed Was a couple of fucking whatever punch laser takedowns, you know, yeah Kenna Legacy of cane defiance remastered so they did soul reaver one and two and now they've done defiance so now you can easily and Without hassle play the legacy of cane series from start to finish all of it Including The new legacy of cane game that was not announced at the state of play It was announced simultaneously What a cane ascendance Oh, I missed that. Yes. I also missed that Wait, this is new This is a new game It's a 2d platformer Okay, and it features the correct cast okay of of these characters and it's like hey, man Oh, I sent it to dead ass and instead Is Is this like I guess this is canon lore it is canon. Yeah, literally the first legitimately new legacy of cane content in level level wow Um, this this got announced super under the radar. I got I was very happy the other day with my vampire media Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was I was having a time of it, man Um, crystal d putting it out, but yeah, who's who's doing this bitbot media? Yeah, I haven't there's no I have no background on them at all. Is this another case of handing it off to? Yeah, no, it's handing it off to somebody Don't know who it is It's it's canonizing a character from the god awful comics So we'll see how that goes um but The fact that these fucking guys are coming out in a game at all is crazy um Weird list of games on this website Uh, a lot of stuff. I've never heard of including the rocky horror show video game So nothing here that really rings a bell Anyway, sure Um This will be game of the year Well, did the Castlevania have a date? It's actually 2026. Okay. So there's there's two game of the years this year and they're both vampire games marathon and You Do you notice they started showing off marathon now that they've made the deal with anti-real They sure are look look at the game. They sure you're allowed to look at it now You're legally allowed to look at it. You want to hear something really fucking funny like really fucking funny They announced in the marathon discord that there was going to be like a gameplay stream from bungee featuring like the lead dev And then they unceremoniously Canceled it because the state of play went longer and then instead sponsored a bunch of streamers to play the game instead So I don't know what the fuck the point of that marathon discord even is if they're telling us to go to events that aren't real The check cleared the check bounced The check cleared Open the gate Um, yeah trailer for that Sure Uh, hey Fucking concord and then we got high guard and then we got marathon. We're fucking swimming in gold here boys um MGS4 finally free They did it that's crazy. That's crazy. I didn't believe it crazy middle gear solid for master collection volume two Alongside portable ops and ghost fucking babel Yeah, dude, uh, I'm really glad wild collection I'm so glad we can all like gather around and many people can finally play the single most mediocre metal gear game That's ever been released. I thought what was the fuck I liked. I should have saved it. Um Random b and b unit tries to do a lap dance on snake and dies She used to eat cement as a child Holy shit, what a fucking perfect moment captured I I'm glad for has its problems, but I don't think any part of its problems could fucking possibly live up to hey Did you enjoy doing those levels? Would you like to never do the games core gameplay ever again? Here comes the 50 mark Like absolutely fucking nuts Absolutely fucking god awful um It it really is just if you want to watch a fucking 40 hour movie of just all the all the Fanfare of metal gear after you've gotten to the end of that franchise then you jump because look it's not metal gear solid 4 is not for playing It's for popping off when rex fights ray That that you know like that like it's not for playing We know this god damn cutscene with big mama It's like 40 fucking minutes, right? I I want to say like that sequence I want to say there's an hour long moment of no gameplay in in in in mgs4 I want to say an hour It's I think it's I think it's like 45, but like Yeah Um, you know see what one man can do when no one can tell him to edit even a single fucking sentence for pacing And look let's be real slow walking through London is a cutscene Like wasn't a prog? Oh, yeah through europe wherever, you know, yeah, I know it's a cutscene. That's a cut That is a walk-in talk that lasts the entire length of the level Hey, man, you want to do the shittiest level followed by Uh an hour of bullshit followed by the game's worst boss fight What is going to feel weird in my memory too is like like walking around in Five in pan of pain and in ground zeroes like you can do you can genuinely do a fuck ton of shit Just controlling your character totally and that's kind of cool and going back to four and having a like early Primitive version of that is gonna be weird because like going back to going back to like one and two and three Like you can do less, but the game Op presents you with more Yeah Hey, hey, hey Remember when they were like look at you know, hey, you got all the sneaking moves You can hold up guards and all these cool ways and all that stuff And then they gave you like a full 25 of the game with no guards at all And then they gave you another 25 of the game where it's like Robots you fucking dumb bitch robots I mean the mooing the mooing fucking gears. No, I mean those little hand freaks Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the little the little um mistral hands. Let's let's just get the coolest location that's ever been in a game and just fill it with the shittiest gameplay we got Hope you have enough chapter names Shut the fuck up. This is not for playing It's for getting hype when we go through all the different metal gear themes in a hand to hand fight With fucking ocelot and then the life bar start filling up all right We've we've we've been over this it's the tech end moment where he holds up where he goes back to the old style Hey, man All right, sometimes you need to watch an old man hang out in a van with his friend and his shitting monkey Listen the real crowd jewel of this collection metal gear solid ghost fucking babel Is finally gonna be available and I implore everyone to enjoy peak metal gear with With black chamber No, man. Peak metal gear is snake inventing doritos and mountain dew to have the stamina to go fucking shoot Rathalos or whatever it was. Okay t-grax. Excuse me. It's t-grax and rathalos. Yes rathalos and also collecting the monkeys. Sure That's fucking peak metal gear um But uh black arts viper should never be forgotten Um, bro, I'm looking you know when you have like a bunch of youtube thumbnails open and your mouse is on one and like It's autoplaying Okay, every single fucking thumbnail of like the third act of mgs4 is the same color It's the same every single fucking one is the same like like light brown tan Filter shit. And you know what pat? Fuck you. I wouldn't have it any other way We got kojima in his element at each moment of his life And the story would not be We like it is what it is because it had to be the way it was It's Fart noise. Yeah. Yeah We needed tons of channels of tv shows you're never gonna watch Filmed cycling through the loading screen so that you can watch Money just burning away as we filmed cooking shows with david hater and interviews and just nonsense Because we that's what that's what hideo's doing with the money Hey woolly Whatever happened to maryl anyway Oh rap patrol she fucking she got herself uh Here she got herself a nice hubby that that that You know Old johnny diarrhea, you know the johnny dire the guy who shits his ass. Yeah, he shits pants all the time. Yeah She got her pulled maryl. He pulled maryl Rap patrol, baby You And when you when you when you take the letters in rat patrol Um Yeah, hey mayling got her boat. Yeah, good for her Um, all right. All right. All right. Anyways, uh, there was uh prog moda Um never pretty artsy game looked cool. What else was there? Never ever? Uh Project windlass which one was that again? I don't know. I saw it. I watched it live. I don't remember project windlass was Oh, it's the chicken one. Oh the chicken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the rooster man. The mad chicken Yeah, yeah, the ai first studio. Yes a craft in montreal motherfucker Right in my backyard go down to the fucking studio and ask them to see the chicken game I could I could just boo them for a really long time and see what happens Um game looks all right, but but if they let me in to see the chicken game, maybe I can like steal um Fucking hi-fi rush Maybe maybe you can like I think the build that they just keep there Yeah, no, I think all of hi-fi rush is just sitting on like a usb stick On a table and like I feel like if I got in I could take it and then I will be the ip holder Um saros looks cool Saros looks cool. And I'm really glad they're making like changes that I specifically called out they needed to make from returnals So that makes me really happy Uh like what? So returnals an incredible shooter. It's a dog shit roguelike Uh, okay. Okay. Okay Like it is it is an incredible shooter It is a really really bad roguelike the randomization And the way your runs work and how long your runs are and what they expect from you. They're all shit um I respect the bold move I kind of it sucks that we Things are like this, but I wonder if it's going to Okay, I don't think this is returnal 2 It is returnal 2 but it is like they did not put the word returnal 2 in the title You know and uh, I kind of what it's like a weird thing of like I wonder if that's going to hurt them at all because shit looks dope and I don't I think things should be able to be titled whatever works best for the thing But uh, you kind of wonder I think I think calling it saros is fine because like returnal I don't think returnal pulls enough To kill with a sequel but anytime anything can pull anything at all Corporate is going to say use the word so that you can pull as much as possible So the fact that they didn't hear I'm kind of like, huh, okay Though I when I did see the word saros. I kind of I was like, what was saros again? Was that like another one of the things I forgot and it's returnal 2 right right right right right, but I have to See it to confirm what if the sun was evil? It's like the sun is evil. Yeah It's not your friend Uh silenhill townfall Looks pretty good actually that trailer was very cool. I thought everything there was Emotional and dud the things that you would expect a good silenhill to do of hey, here's your protagonist He did something fucked up. He sure regrets it. We don't know what's going on Is probably going to be about school shootings Do you think that's what it was with the statue and the uh, the the This is our town like all the protest messages and stuff No, I think it's about the fact that it takes place in scotland in 1996 in a town very very similar next to Uh, the area that had the europe's deadliest school shooting The uk and band guns Oh, there's a historical marker there. Yes, okay Okay, and that's why there's a weird like like Obsession on the pistol the gun. Yeah, he fucking opens the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that as well so I what I will say is you know everything there is like yep, that's what silenhill should be doing Here's a protagonist or some fucked up stuff. We don't know what's going on And it seems like we got we got to see we saw a couple monsters or whatever But the like what happened here? What did you do and what what are you tormented by? Is the main point of the the trailer there so that looks good. That's this one's gonna be tough I'm kind of a silent hill person apparently apparently i'm a silent hill person According to the internet Um, the game that you can play this one's gonna be rough the game you could play blindfolded and fucking yeah Yeah, listen. Yeah, okay. Um, this one's gonna be really rough The game is entirely in first person And has a melee component including blocks and the guy has a fucking iv in his hand That you see. Yeah, literally all the time. Yeah It's gonna be rough. Yeah, I might have to keep my bucket nearby For real I have given up on The third person thing in the sense that it's just like it It's normal to more people than me and a lot of things are just gonna keep going that way and I hate it But what oh well, you know, it's nice that at least requiem is like Whatever you want bro, right? Because they showed off the Um, it is really cool how that camera shit works They showed you they showed you this the part of it that was like here's the here's the view that works if you liked Re seven and eight and then as soon as it switches to leon It's like oh, yeah, and then the camera goes back to where it fucking should be So you can be either or yeah on either character that which playing leon in first person's gonna be fucking I'm gonna have to try it that sounds nuts Actually because the trailer made it seem as if it would be one character first person one character third But it turns out it's actually just kind of their suggestion, which is incredible. That's a really fucking cool thing You know, I think the coolest thing about that is they showed off like a little gameplay snippet of like here's what it would be like playing as A grace in third person versus first person And in third person There's a moment where she like trips like really bad and almost face plants but like catches herself, you know when you're moving And they showed the same bit in first person and it shows off that like You're actually moving at a 100 percent consistent speed even though it looks like she's about to fall over It's it's purely animation trickery Hmm Yeah, and like I get that the first person stuff is about immersion But I think what you lose in gameplay fidelity is not worth it personally, but I'm also again an outsider here I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a hazard that the game Um is emulating first person shooters because of its theming They showed off that townfall has lean mechanics uh and also that You can shoot a pistol from the first person perspective. I have a sneaking suspicion townfall will be playing into that Uh, also f is in third person. Yes. Yes But no that was a good trailer Star Wars galactic racer. We're doing sure pot racing is back. Racing games are basically dead The only thing I want to know is like when this takes place because we see old sabulba in that older timeline And I'm kind of just like place later. So because it's not called pod racer, right? But I'm like if if that was a sabulba or is unless he was like sabulba. Yeah, was he frozen in carbonite or like No, it's just later. It's just later, but like episode nine later Time to race some space cars bully Or is is revan about to show up? You know Yeah, I kind of just want to know is this like literally like two seconds after the phantom is ten minutes after revenge of the jedi sure Sith Return fucking yeah, uh revenge of the skywalker. Good. Not good enough Revenge of the last jedi skywalker Clones of the Yeah, no Um And then there was uh, yako shinobi ops, which looked like another Like hey, what if you got your tenshu, but more strategic I couldn't believe that that wasn't actually a tenshu guy the main guy looks so much like rick maru I Tenshu might be dead, but lives on strong in spirit Like there appear to be multiple options for tenshu fans That are not tenshu I mean there's one that's the most obvious which is um Deflect Sekiro Well, yes, which is like literally a tenshu game But all this to say no actual tenshu It really did look like him though. Yeah, and then seeing the the the style of estate you are breaking into I'm kind of just like that's where you put down the fucking poison rice Yeah, you know Anyway, all right, um So yeah beyond that state of play stuff a couple other things we again we touched on a bunch on the way, but Hey, the other thing that uh, I had been fucking shouting out for with uh, street fighter 6 capcom cups stupidity Where they're charging people 40 bucks to fucking watch the damn thing and people going no go fuck yourself Rightfully so and then the devs at street fighter 6 Uh Being like yo the e-sports team just did some shit and we literally had no say in it and were that sucks and we're trying to do what we can and basically they had an announcement where they came out and um You know, uh, I think oh fuck god damn it nakayama. I believe was uh On one side and then they had one of the e-sports men on the other side And they basically went okay, so we finally got in touch and we've been talking to each other And the departments have decided that we are going to change what we announced and um They did a deep bow that was one of those we fucked up bows. That's like, okay. All right fair enough Thank you to and I'm gonna say the devs, you know properly. I'm imagining Fuck it sat them down and went what the fuck are you doing? Um, but the announcement was hey, it's not gonna be 40 bucks. It's gonna be 10 bucks and it's like Motherfucker people don't want to pay to watch the video game. You're insane But japan will all right and so they kind of went okay, so but isn't the world japan? so they They went it turns out that like we were not reflecting The rest of the world's feelings effectively into the situation and thus our new pricing point reflects that and it's like, okay, whatever price these nuts Thank you um So they're they're a lot they're a lost cause capgami sports just they're committed to it and you know what They as long as shitelti in japan. They don't seem to give a fuck. So whatever it classic ignorance and bullshit The dev team on six seemed to be Making the best of what they can out of the situation by going Okay, so how about this? If you glowed up into the battle hub you can watch the fucking event like i said you should be able to do Yeah, so i think we were both of the opinion that this should have always been the case for literally everything The most obvious thing in the world you have a virtual hub in your game with screens around it Let people go fucking watch the event there while they play the game to get the popular like it's so obvious And so yes, they're testing out the implementation now So that you can go watch like some brat brat broadcasts and whatever But the plan is for you to be able to load up street fighter six go into the battle hub and watch the actual finals taking place in the game Which is that's very smart great idea a lot of it. Yeah um Now because of that it also means then why the fuck would you pay the ten dollars to watch the stream It does mean that that's stupid. Uh, they also said hey co-streaming is okay for not the top eight So for the rest of the event or whatever they're like, okay, cool So the thing that people want to watch the most right like fuck them um, so The devs are going And if you do decide to buy the stream Here we've made a color for rashid that you can get in game as well So you're getting something as opposed to nothing and it's like it really feels like the esports team is committed to Making the stupidest possible decision they can and the dev team around it is going How do we make you not hate street fighter six? Oh my god. Okay. Um, um here here How about this and how about that and they're trying to cushion the landing as hard as they can But holy fuck This is like the most stupid we're not communicating moment that calcom is had in years And I know this And people know this but maybe people don't know this Capcom is kind of unique In that every team is an island. Yeah Like yeah, they are the worst one Out of all of them not just islands. They're competing against each other. Yeah There is a team inside Capcom for example And you might have picked up on this but I know it for a fact that is like the future of resident evil is esports And they're like four failures into that idea And and still and fucking still Raccoon city, um um What the fuck was it called operation rack? Orc or see Let's see. There's raccoon city. There's umbrella umbrella tour. Mm-hmm. There's also um Are everse Yes Yes reverse true That happened and forgot about reverse Was there one more? I think those are the three Maybe it's maybe it's three and not count. Yeah. No that there is a group of guys that work there that are like absolutely fucking Resistance what the fuck is for a single reason do I not know about Mobile is that some mobile game shit? Uh But yeah, there's a group. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Fuck. Jesus. What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this there you go? Yeah, how do I I fucking miss the whole resi? Oh, this sucks. Oh, I'm like, yeah, I was right. My heart knew it, but my brain didn't Four they're trying they're trying for failures Um, and they're probably actively sabotaging the the narrative team on on the mainline series They compete for resources Yeah, I mean look well look you remember how like harata had that thing where he did he had a tweet where he described How the soul caliber team and the tech end team were like rivals, you know with each other being like we can't lose to them Yeah, like capcom has their like actively hostile teams You know, yeah, they're actively hostile teams. There are there are like heads of creative units that are like Internally politicking against each other to get more resources. It's severance actually It's like survival of the fucking fittest in there Yeah, you've got you've got macrodata refinement working on monster hunter right over here And optics and design over there on street fighter We don't talk about the time that they came in and just butchered everybody like it's just they are really going like into um If you basically you're going into a thing where like whatever performs the best Is going to get rewarded with budget next time around, you know, like I don't know how they got onamusha off the ground with How come what team is making? Because it says capcom but like, you know, what does that what does that mean? Yes, it's anyway, it's not surprising to see these moments occur And the other thing to consider too is that the esports fucking Inception in japan five extra primal somebody just pointed out come on that ass no does that count Yeah, dude because instead of reasonable it's dino crisis Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, sure. Sure. Does anyone not realize that the this fucking The same capcom game comes out every four fucking years But i'm okay with it being exo primal because they just tried some new shit Right like we're not looking at exo primal go. I mean admittedly you're going hot dino crisis. It's not new but but but but but The alternate reality is us going why couldn't you just come out with some other game and not call it resident evil? Exo primal is like like literally operation raccoon city again. It's like a direct But but i'm just but i'm just saying they did the thing that You always say that we always say which is like just call it something else and they did they did they legitimately said Yeah, we're it's it's a dino crisis's legacy. Right fucked. I'm not gonna give them. I'm not gonna give them shit for Going for the new thing and not trying to call it the other thing. You know bro. Do you want to hear something wild about dino crisis? Do you know there's actually a fucking third dino crisis game? Did I hear something about this there wait no no no hold on no i don't know what you're talking about It's called dino crisis three It sucks It fucking sucks ass dude We played it on the channel not you was met me but still wait wait wait what? This exists yeah, it sucks xbox exclusive Yeah, it's fucking terrible I didn't know I literally thought there were only two of these games. Yeah, exactly The only person in your life who would ever say the word dino crisis three to you is matter me Okay, because no one gives a fuck. It's terrible. It's god Wow, okay damn Well, I guess i'll have to update my regina appearance counter because I thought it was those two games and namco x capcom Yeah, regina's not there Um, anyway, um, you know, there's a third parasite eve game Did you know that the third parasite eve game is in the ebstin files? You know what you know what? Mm-hmm. All right um, so That was really stupid on capcom's part and Do not be surprised if they continue to make other stupid esports related mistakes because esports in japan has been corrupt from day one You can go back to us talking about the jezu and the entire e-sports. You were talking about how corrupt esports in japan 10 years ago. It's insane. It's insane. Um Now I would like to point something out that esports in america also corrupt Well, yeah Just not as ob- just better hidden. Yeah, like like slightly slightly a little um The other thing that was really cool and worth talking about they showed off so one avatar legends They announced a new closed alpha coming out february 20th. So uh, yeah in a couple days. There's a new um larger test for the avatar fighting game and they showed off uh toff and From that trailer And maybe from Whatever else Uh, I can tell you toff beifong is One of the coolest characters I have ever seen in the genre the the design of how she How she fights how earth bending is like represented as a playable style in this game is fucking awesome Um, so you can see in the trailer a couple of different things. So she's got a bunch of armor On some of her moves, which as that's what you're a fucking okay makes perfect sense, right? Toff beifong from canada um She's got her metal bending super as well, you know little things like that that are like cool little uh touches but In terms of just like making her uh metal making earth bending work in this game uh, she gets the ability to Launch a platform that she stands on like she does in the show when she's in when she's uh, uh Yeah, but she's doing in the tournament combos at the top of the while raising up So she can launch you into the air lift her platform up and do grounded combos while juggling you right like she's on the floor furthermore if you pick the um I think it's the badger mole assist. She has her different assist types or whatever. They're not assists. They just enhance certain moves She can move the platform forward or backward while on it to continue juggling you better, right? Furthermore, she's the only character. I can think of I've seen in a fighting game that has a ceiling bounce She bounces you off the top of the stage back down for more combo opportunities um And then she can put down earth that puts a wall behind you like agonist and puts the corner And puts you in the corner so that you can't escape So this is a game where everyone can earth can fly can use fire wind everything Water and get all around and like the mobility is crazy Toph isn't moving like that. She's a rock. So she stands there and puts you in the corner, right? um, you can then put the you can put a wall up behind the opponent and then drag the wall to you Yes, and you can break them through the wall which then launches them up for let's so that you can continue doing your combo Instead of you dashing at them like every other character. She makes the earth move to pull you in You know so like a conveyor belt on the ground as the earth moves inward So fucking cool and like all of these are this auto parry shit at the beginning of her trailer um, okay, so that's the flow button and basically there's a Defensive button where you know how I talk about how the funnest thing is when Steve Fox has a dodge button And how cool games would be if everyone could do that this game has that and you can hit that odd slot Exactly and you it costs your your chakra to do so But you can evade attacks coming at you, but if you get thrown you get fucked up um And something we know now too about this game that we didn't know back then is When you use up all your meter and you're in burnout you can't do any of those dodges or fast moves and all and fancy movement stuff um If you get hit with a level 3 super while you're in burnout the match is fucking over Oh, you just die. It's an instant kill Yeah, okay, that's super sick like yeah, what the fuck you doing getting hit with a level 3 in burnout for idiot Right high stakes High stakes shit. So You know, uh that that aspect makes it even more nutty like I like shit like that. It was uh, not something I don't think anyone knew at the time um What an amazingly what just a creative way to go like she's super cool. I loved off already like that's great but like making her faithful in a way that is like Using the best of making the stage and your movement and where she is and that's something that fighting games don't do because it's too Hard, you know, it's very difficult. Yeah. Yeah, so that's cool And you know beyond that I mean just you know topping off some of the other stories Yeah, we are watching as I think from here on out every update we get about high guard is going to just be the slow Shutting down of the project. I imagine it's crazy. They were just bleeding those devs dry, man Yep, um, they weeks to design narrative characters and the same lady that designed every character also had to be the head of the microtransaction team Uh, all characters designed by the same person in the same like yeah, like two week period or whatever What they said there were they thinking that's so much to put on one person Sounds like they didn't have the manpower for The project they were aiming for on this. Um, so most of the team let go kind of like kind of like what just happened to xk actually just like Most of the staff is like oh at this point. I saw a post earlier today where it said the the website was down so I yeah, I think I think um, that's that's slowly gonna be a wrap um and I You don't want like you You want to encourage people to take swings? for Good ideas that could be cool and I mean Look what now that we're looking at it in this way like the jeff keely thing didn't help in any way shape or form I don't know if it did or didn't now because it you know what but but no it didn't Didn't help because if they had hit like let's say they I don't know what the numbers are right I'm just gonna make these up right I saw an article fucking today that was like How how high guards dealing with a 98.5? Drop in player count. Yeah Yeah, if the game had just come out and kind of done really bad at least it wouldn't have had that fucking Juju put on it because that's fucked so the the basic skeletal framework of A new studio trying out a new ip is something that we Want to be able to happen in this day and age in the middle of this crash We want that to be a possibility and as a general on the table framework. I I am Someone who wants that to continue to continue to exist Now when we look at high garden specific We see a gumbo of a bunch of stuff that like we said was not executed on properly and was boring to play and Did not feel compelling and like there's just a million things here that just like yeah, but this isn't good So it doesn't matter like if the thing you're making isn't good then Nothing's gonna save you on that right so um like player player count loss like that is like people tried it and they were like no Mm-hmm. That's the thing is because I've I've definitely seen like you know some of the discourse kind of going like Are people being too mean to this game? and it's like I I've not actually said like I'm sure there's a bunch of youtube accounts that go High guard fucked and whatever It was good then this wouldn't happen I experienced it with most people is they had the exact experience that you and I did which is we played it for like 40 Minutes a month. No like like I'm I'm sorry that I can't feel this way when a game like high-fi rush that I just talked about Is excellent across the board and still suffered for it Well, do you know who you want your biggest hater to be? Your guy who leaves a negative steam review with like 2200 hours on the account sure. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The ideal Yes under 100 100% You know and you just and you're not even there So that's it like I'm just I'm like I'm sorry that like I get the sentiment of that But like again a perfectly good fucking game that was excellent across the board cannot survive in this environment um I I I'm I'm saving my pity for shit like that. I just You can't come out here like this with this type of thing and it just came out like an hour ago that it was a 10 cent game actually It was a secret 10 cent wait what? 10 cent bankrolled it. Yeah Was that a secret? Did they not No, why Why why was that secret? I think they it appeared to be they don't want their name on it Yeah, yeah High guards mysterious funding was reportedly Chinese tech giant 10 cent Yeah, so this makes sense as to why jeff thought it was going to be like the big new thing Because jeff would have known right and so he probably thought the 10 cent was going to like push it super hard But actually Actually, it's a woo slop with secret woo slop secret woo slop But we hold on Are we thought it was just multi slop nah man. It's multi woo slop But wait, are we in the era of like 10 cent knowing that their name on something is bad and we need to hide that shit from you That's crazy This is the opposite of secret developers back in the 360 p.m. I secret tester on games who never got credited. No No, you didn't secretly test nothing Literally the company was like if you pay us an extra fee you do not have to credit us Our testers names will never be known. May their names be forgotten for a fee Was the studio I worked for Um, wow, they're hiding their name you would You would want to blast from the mountaintops your name on projects that you're fucking funding like that is Crazy well because think about it right when you hear 10 cents behind it you would expect more support than Fucking nothing Right weird And I mean I mean look we we would come we would have come at it with different energy I would have actually been significantly meaner So I guess they're right Oh man, that's funny. That's funny. And you know what this is in a world where Marvel rivals is a good game. That's fun. That's man. Wait a second. That's that was well done Gaunt eyes in the chat points out wait So Jeff keely gave a free million dollar tv spot to a 10 cent game Oh While pretending it Oh no Because okay, okay. No, hold on. I don't know if we can say that but pretending it was a because it is a new studio That is a bunch of former um respond that respawn devs um But they were secretly bankrolled and so produced secretly produced reduced. Yeah, not developed. So yeah But that's but that's yeah, it's 10 cents 10 cents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. No, um The the meanness would have been off the charts. Yeah, dude If that were if we knew from the jump that for that is so like you can look at the streams We do you did a new stream you didn't you just played it? I did a stream of it. I was being like Eminently charitable. There is a I would have just not been okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So there is something and and admittedly too I remember like Having this moment after best friends when I was doing my own channel shit of like when you play an indie game and it's kind of Meh And you are like I'm you don't want to shit on it too hard because it's not a triple a company Right, this is a doing their best small team doing what they exactly right and that little thing inside now back in the day I know that feeling y'all used to rip in ways that were wildly unforgiving and I'd be like damn I'm like Okay, you know, so hey here's here's here's here's here's here's like two things that were happening with that One is of that group I am the only person who did not actually work in a game dev studio in any capacity Right. I was fully 100% on the consumer. Hey, I don't give a fuck Yes, side of things completely and I'm still like that. Yes, though getting to know a lot more people in the industry I have softened some of my stuff about stuff that's bullshit, right? The second thing is is that Matt and I would just totally amp each other up It would it would go it would go it would go right like he's talking shit. Yeah, I gotta talk bigger shit I'm talking bigger. Of course. He's gonna talk of course like and and and let's Listen like pay pay no pay no pay no Don't pour one out for right to hell retribution. I like the you know what I mean Like but but other than thank you right to hell for producing a very good video game content and Also and video games are hard to make is never a valid defense. All right However, the deal is very much clear that when you are playing A game that is like, you know, this is a small team and they're doing their thing and you're kind of you're aware that you're like, okay Like I'm going to keep in mind the limitations of what was possible for what they output here, right? What are you swinging for etc? It comes across in your tone um High guard Was getting that but also like the silliness of the concept for what we expected of the dev team And then going and playing it and feeling the way it did. It was like this is clown shoes. This is dumb. This is Unfortunately just horse guard, man Right, but whereas concord was like the absolute ridiculous butt of the joke because that was a sony funded multi million Insane how high but that budget was so concord gets to live in the same exact space that marathon gets to fucking live in All the way down to being sony funded You know, there's the same expectations are are there coming in except concord at least didn't fucking steal it maybe they should Because because they're also it's also a representative thing. It's an It is hold on because it's also the incredulous aspect of the industry That is like the highest budget games with the most cooks in the kitchen Missing the mark as hard as possible Right like the idea of being so you're so bloated Beyond sustainable that you're just outputting absolute dreck So instead what do we have? We have one of the largest video game publishers in the entire world giving a bunch of peanuts to like 40 people This is so yeah, fuck that game. Fuck that game. What's the fault? How many indie darlings Have secret triple fun triple a funding behind the scenes, but that are like don't tell anybody There's a reason why E 33 like blew everybody off their feet and it's like the arguing about indie and all that because like E 33 Like E 33 costs less money to make the fucking Hades too Right Which completely fucks up the perception of what things cost in video game dollars Right fucks it up Also, by the way, I did not mention it. I watched the dice awards Ah, which again featured. Hey, you know, it's a great idea for a video game award show Let's serve dinner and drinks in the middle of the show. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Let's Have the microphone be the room mic and not the mic for the presenter for some fucking reason And let's give the best soundtrack award to ghost of yote While everyone's chewing and clinking and yeah, yeah, good stuff We need funding disclosure documents to be made public Specifically so that we can know how mean to be to you I We funding disclosure needs to be public So that we may accurately be as mean as we need to be to the video game I know for a fact I have I have been fucking super mean I've been super fucking mean to games in the past And I've actually walked away going fuck was that too mean Only to have someone In the studio reach out to me and be like I fucking told them so fuck that guy in that department What oh like dude, I mean you like isn't that the Oh, sure it the nipple rubbing level of excitement that comes from someone in the team reaching out to go guys I fucking told them Oh everywhere all over the room randy marsh just It's so good. It's so good twice it has happened and it felt fucking Oh, absolutely. It has happened more than multiple times. Yes Um, not even just on the video game industry either Fucking Talking about reboot Motherfuckers and my dm's going bro And I'm like, uh-huh Anyways, um Uh, so that is happening and then Um With it's jason mimowa hell divers movie fucking got a war game by the way as kratos is a violent angry baby a a Is this some sort of side scrolling new thing as well? Or yeah, okay? Yes, it is. Okay Is a side scrolling kratos metroidvania? Okay, so Uh, the lesson of it sucks So the lesson of the day is if there's a side scroller that if there's a new game in a franchise that you've never heard of It's a side scroller or a mobile game Yeah, it's cheaper. Yeah, okay Um, jason mimowa's and the hell divers movie coming out next year. Sure. Sure um I I can't believe that franchise is Back in getting a movie. I mean, I can't fucking wait To see people not get that movie at all Well, the question is is do we are we going full starship troopers now? All right, 100% yeah And it gets delivered Completely straight without blatant irony and then everyone takes it literal I don't know how they're gonna make that movie and not just make starship troopers again Well, that's that's the thing is I think we are gonna probably just hit that but the Like the whatever the fuck Planet earth was is gonna be in 2027 um, it's gonna be a place where you're gonna need to Probably not wait for the audience to get the joke about super democracy and um fucking insane uh Modern commentary on things it it probably needs to be uh a little more than subtle Before we move into emails I need to ask you something which is more annoying the guy who Doesn't fight club guy starship trooper. The answer is fight club guy Okay, well, I'm actually going in a slightly different direction, but I agree with you. Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. I do I do Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. Um um With a with a close second being um, patrick bateman guy Oh, I hate a fucking american psycho asshole Boy, you I hate a fucking guys like those Yeah, all right. My actual question is which is more personally annoying to you Guy who doesn't get starship troopers Or a guy who thinks He's blowing your mind By telling you that starship troopers is a satire Because that second guy makes me fucking nuts dude Easy answer for me easy answer for me The second one is kind of silly, but at least they got there Oh, I fucking hate that second guy so much the first the first guy Is the guy who's getting the tattoo going? I am doing my part. Yeah Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm I once again harken back to the section of um sacred and terrible air The really good book taking place in the disco elysium universe where a director in the in the world makes a documentary about Vidkentard the super murderous child pedophile Just at the worst of the worst human beings ever And he makes a documentary about it and all the absurd things the dude says And he basically leaves him to speak his to his own words and he cuts it and edits it in such a way that it is obviously meant to be Like framing this to be the worst person ever to make him look as stupid as possible And it is almost satirical how Self-parodying the character is with how dumb the shit he says is and what ends up happening is the audience doesn't get that In the editing they they don't get that that's what they're going for And it ends up Giving rise to a whole bunch of people of going You know what this nazi pedophile is actually spitting bars And ends up powering a fucking whole movement Because the director and the director sitting there going no wait guys no i wasn't it wasn't meant to be no you're not Understanding what i intended with the moot and then the and just this is just a little sidebar in the book and it's just like Yeah Yeah, that could happen Actually, so i'm gonna give it to first guy because second guy got there. Yeah, you're right Because while you were describing that you know what popped into my head I can't believe what a fucking bitch skylare is why is she always trying to fucking stop walton from From doing fucking cool stuff for his fam that fucking shit. Oh my god Does vince gilligan need to fucking sit in front of a camera and explain to you that walter whites one of the biggest losers To ever be on a television television screen You and your god damn you go Are you just gonna get your fucking walter white fucking breaking bad poster and put it right next to your fucking uh, tony montana poster In your fucking shrine to massive fucking losers With the tattoo that says i did it because i liked it and i was good at it Say my name Yeah, you can look that scene dude. I saw the same. I named scene before I ever watched breaking pad and then watching it in breaking Bad, he's coming off like a fucking weird loser Like he's he's like showing off in the most cringe fucking way possible um the entirety of The character the joker existing on the internet Should have been proof positive That subtlety we're in a post subtlety world. It does jonkler. It doesn't work. You can't like we're beyond this you can't Hope that the text And the subtext are going to be delivered simply because uh, you cut things in such a way that you felt it would be obvious We're beyond this at this point um Let's take some letters Hey, if you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com send it to castle super Castle super beast mail at gmail.com if you want to send in a letter that's like, but what are you talking about? About fight club or american psycho? Don't send that letter in uh, um We got one coming in from peter teal who says, uh You guys should continue You uh, uh using using discord actually nothing's wrong. Everything's fine Um I was joking by the way when I was making those palantir comments last week. Oh, yeah, you were I was I was I thought you because that was known at the time So I thought you were just like here. We are leading edge of it. Here we are um We got one coming in from roblox that says hey, please stop talking about our multiple lawsuits from parents angry about their kids getting fucking, uh Predatored on no okay Um It's crazy they email us All right I think it's wild that the emails this week are so dog shit you had to go with two fake emails before getting to one or three It's fine. Oh no, all right, uh Once from johnny truant who says dear pinky in the brain You've heard of hustle and scam, but I'd like to pitch you principled or insane All right, got it. Okay. Um talking about moral rigidity here Uh at the risk of rubbing you the wrong way, um As it's attached to your livelihood in some way Uh, I decided to stop listening to advertising basically is what the person says right block it all et cetera even at the network level Uh podcast can be a bit of an issue as I know their sponsor it reads all the time and it leads to a bit of a conundrum for me So the solution I've landed on is I skip past them. Uh, sorry, but that also counts for your show. No offense Um, here's the question I have though Well, if I hear an ad break coming in and I'm otherwise occupied with both of my hands in such a way that I can't stop and skip that If I'm in the middle of a set at the gym or carry in groceries home I will quickly pause the episode continue what I was doing in silence And only once I'm free do I skip and continue listening And it has definitely led to silences that were longer than the ad break would have been Am I a fiercely principled person or completely insane? Um, just so I get it families have to eat et cetera do what can you do be well? um You're going through like a lot of work to deny yourself A minor annoyance, but I guess that's fine I mean like is not a big deal You're putting into dodging this now exceeding the amount of annoyance that you would gain So that's that's that's the amount right? That's the that's the exact scale. There's a line On the in there's like a math equation here So I have one I have my own personal version of this that I can think of right that comes close um Anytime I open up a website that asks me about rejecting cookies and accepting all trackers, etc I reject the cookies. I reject them all right, but the problem is is that uh, some countries Make it so that you have to have a reject all button to easily click and continue But in some countries or some websites they have a annoying one that make it difficult to do anything besides click accept all And uh, one of the worst ones I've seen have been that there is no reject all button There's just the essential ones But to turn off the non essentials you must manually go from the list of a to z For everyone that every other third party tracker, right? So you have to take About a minute of your time going down the list going off off off off off off off and then once you're done You don't click accept you click the save setting and then it brings you back and then you go Except that's right because both of those buttons are lies that lead to skip all this trouble and just accept everything And I know that you've designed this in a hostile way to annoy me because of the extra time it takes But I don't care. I'm going to sit there and click it off because I know you did this but go fuck yourself right, so It's an extra minute, but Fuck you you're being hostile with your design So i'm gonna do that. There's there's like there the the question the email purports is like It's both right, but um, and obviously there's there's Personal tilt for value Right, but there there's like a line of like well how much annoyance to avoid annoyance. Are you encountering? And if the answer is a ton Then you're nuts if the answer is a little Fucking you know like yeah Yeah, no, that's that's about it. I mean um like that like I'll give you an example. Well, I Would um, I have a very serious perfume allergy Right, and so when I would get off at um, Miguel metro station the fastest way to get to that best buy is to go through the underground city And go through the bay through the bay being the bay had that violent insane perfume aisle That covered the whole fucking front entrance. Oh, you mean like the arkham city pipes shooting gas that you had to Freaking roll through even people without perfume allergies was like that thing was nuts It was very strong. It was very so even in the dead ass a winter I would Go I would take the street exit as soon as I could and then walk down the street And and go to the best buy from there. How much of my life am I losing to that? I don't know like fucking 90 seconds But i'm avoiding a migraine because I have a perfume allergy, right? now If the actual thing was I had to walk 10 blocks in the wrong direction And take like, you know, 35 40 fucking minutes of my time Okay, maybe we'd be talking about something different, right? But it wasn't it was like a minor Trivial thing Right, so this is this is what I'm thinking of when I'm thinking of like this person was like, okay Are you spending like an hour a day avoiding 10 minutes of ads? You've lost your mind? Yeah, um spending 5 minutes a day to avoid 5 minutes of ad okay do whatever I think the weirdest part of walking through the bay was Uh when the ladies would walk out with their giant cloaks and hoods and start spraying their frenzy flame So you joke but um the the only time the only time I had ever like yelled at somebody in customer service Was in that bay counter Where a woman walked up to me and said sir, would you like to try our new fragrance and sprayed me? Yeah, and I completely lost my shit because I could feel myself getting sick like immediately like immediately within seconds I remember and I just completely lost my fucking shit like what are you doing? I'm allergic like the whole thing um and she ran away and then I was like Did I overreact and then I'm like no wait I was actually sprayed with a fucking harmful chemical against my will walking through a store And that's why you have to ignore the ads and take out the perfumers first Then handle the rest of the group Um All right, and one last one over here, uh dear thrasher and ginger rufus first time long time Uh, I saw a supposed leaked list of street fighter 6 season 4 roster probably fake But it's a capcom leak so it's likely true. No, no, no, I think I know the one you're talking about it's fake um On that list was one character. I was hoping we'd never see again Um, or at least would be replaced like how ock you replaced fang Uh, what are some characters that you never hope to see on a character select screen again? Bonus points if pat doesn't immediately say rufus You're gonna have to give me a second because I was like building up that whole email and now I have to like Well to be fair they conditioned you with that opener. So that's they kind of set me up. That's it's a setup. That's why you're not They're not clever. Yeah, they didn't give a name Um fine. I got one. Um, I say Uh, lucky clowy is a pretty obvious but shitty one Not just because of the level of like disrespect to fucking Smack it around Eddie Gordo and the fact that a character like that gets the fuck it He he gets an embarrassing storyline as long as this character exists But there's something really weird about her where when you look at like the capoeiristas in in tec en You know, um like christie and eddie and stuff like they're they're legit They're faithful and they do a lot of respect to the martial art And it feels like you know tec en for the most part puts respect onto the styles represented by different countries and everything internationally but Lucky clowy is disrespectful to the actual capoeira In the game because she doesn't disrespectful to eddie gordo. Yeah, and she because she doesn't do capoeira. She does um capoeira in styled dance fighting And like it's like her own unique thing in order to make her do kind of these like more dancey goofy moves And not have it be considered something They wouldn't want to call it capoeira because again that would be blatantly disrespectful But you now you still are being disrespectful to it So it's weird because you already had the accurate thing and then regressed and went backwards and shitty with this Right, you didn't have to do that You're like if you went from the other director you had a silly whatever dance fighter and then you got a legit capoeira Easter and be like oh, hey, yeah, we fixed it. We did we went this way But you're regressing so lucky clowy not only sucks as a character design and sucks because of the implications with eddie But it sucks because even the fighting style she's doing is completely shitty and disrespectful to everything about what capoeira is cool What was the response? To everybody hating lucky clowy. I feel like there was like herata was like would you prefer this character? Uh, maybe no a big giant muscular man. No, no, no, you're thinking of george kami tammi and uh, Dragon's crown and dragon's crown and he went well a character artwork to your tastes has been prepared It was a bunch of buff dwarfs I think the funniest thing about that is that that art like kicked ass. It was super cool It was super homophobic It was so stupid for him to say that but the art was great It was just yeah, you know in a world where we got like sorris and fucking done more 100% You know again, um, uh, grand blue fantasy versus gets it with their old man in the fucking underwear flexing on you If I had to pick a character, I never want to fucking see again I mean a lot of the ones that pop into my mind are actually Like licensed characters that never will come back again like yoda. Fuck yoda, man Sure, sure odd job ass mechanics And like, you know bullshit like dr. B like fuck dr. B right You just like it was that was back in a time where they thought the gimmick was funnier than the idea of you can't fucking hit this character Like fun that that nothing will ever ever ever make that okay, and I will say that at least melty blood learned and made um Ark uh, uh neko arc. Oh Patable at standing standing height Who's that? Who's the fucking main character of the new king of fighter saga that's oh shun a shun a That is a great answer That's a really yeah, dude. I don't like ash crimson, but ash crimson has a bunch of shit going on man Fuck shun a ash everything about his shit is ass shun a That is a great answer. Fuck that. Fuck that shit. Yeah. Yeah There we go. There we go Um like ash might not be for you But ash is a unique character. Yes Ash fucking rules ash crimson is great. I don't care what the fuck anyone says But shun a is just legitimately uninteresting Um, the chuny slot the two hand thing sucks fire and ice toroki shit What you know a headphone jacket color designed protagonist of the latest bay blade and or monster collecting Not mainline series thing Um, I called him the super robot wars oc designs, you know It's a character with finger gloves and like a single strand of hair. That's like a single color When I was thinking about how much I hate shun a I bit my nail too hard and now I'm bleeding That's pretty that's crazy Especially when they nailed it so much harder with the other characters like ilsa and um, um Dolores, you know Anyway, yeah shun a great answer. What a boring nothing design. All right, that'll do Have a good week everybody You