Castle Super Beast

CSB371: Quentin's Dilemma: Feet or N-word?

157 min
May 6, 202625 days ago
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Summary

Pat and Woolly discuss their weeks including parenting milestones, gaming updates on Pragmata and other titles, and extensive industry news covering GTA 6's unsustainable expectations, the Daigo vs Menna fighting game event's cultural context, and various game adaptations and announcements.

Insights
  • Infinite budget expectations create unsustainable industry standards: GTA 6 needs 25M+ sales just to break even, setting impossible benchmarks for competitors
  • Cultural context matters more than surface-level criticism: The Daigo vs Menna event's significance was lost in translation due to misunderstanding kimono michi's philosophical meaning about pride and finality
  • Live service games exploit engagement loops without completion incentives: Star Citizen and similar projects monetize indefinitely by never finishing, creating cult-like spending patterns
  • Adaptation success requires respecting source material while telling contained stories: The RE4 movie works by being a good horror film first, not by forcing canon compliance
  • Parenting reveals how quickly children develop intentional communication and understanding beyond mimicry, challenging assumptions about infant cognitive development
Trends
AAA game budgets and sales expectations entering death spiral territory with diminishing player basesMeta-narrative indie puzzle games becoming saturated post-Inscryption, requiring higher creative barsFighting game community gatekeeping and cultural knowledge gaps between Western and Japanese FGCAI-generated content in games becoming dealbreaker for influencer partnerships and brand trustLive service monetization models shifting toward indefinite engagement without completion as business modelWhitewashing in live-action anime adaptations becoming recurring controversy (One Piece Usopp incident)Smaller-scope horror game adaptations gaining traction over sprawling canon-heavy approachesWorkplace method acting and emotional labor becoming recognized industry problem requiring intervention
Topics
GTA 6 Development Expectations and Industry SustainabilityDaigo vs Menna First-to-10 Event and Kimono Michi Cultural ContextStar Citizen Monetization Model and Cult-Like Spending PatternsPragmata Game Mechanics and Lock-On Targeting IssuesParenting Milestones and Infant Cognitive DevelopmentMeta-Narrative Indie Games Post-Inscryption SaturationResident Evil 4 Movie Adaptation and Canon ComplianceOne Piece Live Action Whitewashing ControversyMethod Acting in Entertainment IndustryFighting Game Community Cultural Knowledge GapsAI-Generated Content in Game DevelopmentLive Service Game Completion IncentivesAttack on Titan Ending and Protagonist MoralityMetal Gear Solid 2 Source Code Leak and Cut ContentFate of the Old Republic Development Team Composition
Companies
Rockstar Games
GTA 6 development discussed extensively regarding unsustainable budget expectations and sales targets
Capcom
Resident Evil 4 movie adaptation and game design philosophy discussed in context of horror adaptations
Square Enix
Final Fantasy XIV generated 50%+ of company profits in fiscal 2025, demonstrating live service dominance
Konami
Metal Gear Solid 2 source code leak discussed; Kojima's departure from company mentioned
Cloud Imperium Games
Star Citizen approaching $1B in crowdfunding with indefinite development and cult-like monetization model
BioWare
Fate of the Old Republic project staffed with veteran developers from KOTOR, Mass Effect, Dragon Age
Obsidian Entertainment
Referenced in context of KOTOR legacy and developer talent pools
Netflix
One Piece live action adaptation whitewashing controversy regarding character design changes
Bandai Namco
Tekken 8 and Invincible fighting game discussed with character roster and voice acting
Capcom
Pragmata game discussed extensively regarding lock-on mechanics and trial difficulty
People
Strauss Zelnick
Set unsustainable perfection expectations for GTA 6 with unlimited budget allocation
Daigo Umehara
Competed in kimono michi first-to-10 against Menna; undefeated in the series format
Menna
Defeated Daigo 10-6 in Street Fighter 6 first-to-10 event; represents newer generation
Hajime Isayama
Discussed his creative choices regarding Eren's character and the story's conclusion
Hideo Kojima
Metal Gear Solid 2 source code leak revealed cut pre-9/11 content and his predictive storytelling
Drew Karpyshyn
Mass Effect and Dragon Age writer joining KOTOR 3 project as key creative staff
Casey Hudson
Announced as director for new KOTOR project with veteran BioWare development team
Zack Snyder
Directing RE4 movie adaptation; confirmed game is canon and discussed design choices
Ironmouse
Cancelled sponsorship for Neverness to Everness after discovering undisclosed AI-generated content
Jason Schreier
Published in-depth reporting on GTA 6 development challenges and FF14's financial dominance
Dan Olson
Attended MrBeast's Beast Games event and created critical analysis of production quality
Aaron Paul
Declined to reprise Power Plex role citing emotional toll; character recast with sound-alike
Quotes
"is that any way to live your life? You know to wake up and run away from these challenges"
Daigo UmeharaDuring pre-match promo discussion
"I'm turning 45 next month, but today I'm in my prime. So if you defeat me you should feel proud"
Daigo UmeharaPre-match statement (mistranslated)
"I didn't fully want to give up on the fact that like the story at this point had changed or at the very least the reception to this character had changed"
Hajime IsayamaInterview about Eren's character conclusion
"Selling 10 million units a miraculous figure for most competitors would be considered disastrous for GTA 6"
Industry AnalystGTA 6 expectations discussion
"the camera is real because it's like it's the author's point of view of the story and what the weight of the author wants to focus on"
WoolieAttack on Titan narrative analysis
Full Transcript
! Yo, yo, hello, hey Caboose you come here. Oh, why my my my co-star isn't in his usual dog bed. How you doing man? Alright We got I got I got a hard out today. So let's let's get this podcast moving Well, luckily my week Played some Kingdom Hearts game arts fucking pretty good. Okay. Yeah I like what a week can be summed up with a noise. I Also discovered something so the weather's been wonderful. Yeah, right? It's been absolutely gorgeous out here and in beautiful British Columbia and So me and the little man in the morning like Paige has been streaming so me and the little man go on little little trips little adventures Right we going down to the Going down to the park and then like fuck it. We got time. Let's go down to the other park And then I have a step tracker right? Because you know I'm a little rounder than I should be so it helps to keep track and I I was like, oh, yeah, that's pretty good And I realized I've been doing like 13,000 steps a day. Oh, yeah, okay for like and and I was like, oh cool And then I like ran the math on it. I'm like, oh, that's like 10 kilometers 10 K and that's like 10 K a day is healthy. That's not bad. Yeah, but then I realized my 2 year old is also walking 10 K Holy shit. Damn. Okay. Yeah Cuz cuz Paige yesterday was like, wow, you really tired him out and I'm like, well, what you guys do and like we walked over here Walked over here walked over here And he was just like I'm not I'm not tired. I'm not tired fight right for hours Yeah, no 10 K 10 K is considered like the like oh you're you're moving every day. You're getting your calories in proper and And your route to our hamburger audience. That's like six miles guys But he's just a little guy. Oh the in in yeah, okay In in in burger metrics. Yeah, and in the burger metrics. Gotcha. Okay, imagine there was a burger It kills my ass dude, it kills my ass to have to I've had to stop my show and be like Imagine a hamburger and and they get it. They get it Like when you hamburger I understand now do the little translation. I think that's the first time I've heard you say British Columbia in a long time I feel like ever you just say BC and I'm surprised you didn't spit what you say I'm fancy about it. Okay, cuz the weather out here is just nice all the time in British Columbia Let's see what else what else what happened? So I'm okay 200 years ago or as we say the other day So The other day I'm streaming right and I'm doing my my bullshit and it's quite late right and so I got a phone call for my wife And she's like get over here now, and I'm like, oh, I guess I'm in trouble. I stayed up too late You know how it is And I get back to the house and she's like there's piss everywhere. I'm like no Who done it? So what happened was she was playing with geriatric cat Elmo? Very old and all of a sudden he just exploded. He looked like he was shocked also Okay, okay that you wanted to you would prefer that let it let him be taken by surprise I know you don't have cats. I don't know if you have any history with with with with cat piss Oh, I'm aware is the worst. I'm aware. Yep. The fern. Yep Yeah, like Like there was like a like a child's play tent That the baby the kid likes now that thing's in the trash. That's gone Got all over with my poor wife. I picked the cat up now. It's all over me and Which cleaned everything that this was this was late at night. It's like late night Late night kid is asleep cleaning in frantic silence like scenario and then I got to have a Very harrowing experience So, you know how cats don't like to take baths Yes, they don't like it. They don't like it. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, and that cats also have sharp claws. Ah Yes, they do well, right if in this kind of disaster scenario the only way to To fully wash the cat is To get into the shower with him And shower the cat like he's a baby So I'm in the shower with a very angry old man stapled to my body with with old man knives Screaming in my face and I'm like, ah wash the piss off you yeah And you got to get the hard chemicals out to get the ammonia smell no you can't You can't get use hard chemicals on the cat No, not on the cat on the environment that that was cat bombed like well you use specific anti-cat Chemicals okay, cuz I'm like I feel like it for the the cat ammonia smell you need industrial cleaner But then you can't be having the kid around industrial cleaner So yeah, no well he was asleep luckily no car anyway. We got all of it Cat is pretending like nothing happened. He's using his boxes normal We don't know what the fuck was up with that the only thing we can think of is that day a Cat on the street walked up to us for pets and we all petted the cat Hmm and as best as I can come up with When we came home and Elmo was playing with him He's got a good old whiff of stranger cat and what ah Defense mechanisms activate for whatever that means okay. I see that I see that So no more petting other cats anymore just in case You know it's funny cuz like cleaning up a bunch of piss and having to take a cat shower objectively awful experiences Not good But once I dried poor Elmo off and was petting him. I was like man. I love this guy so much Like oh you're I don't like that you did that but you're a good guy I Gladly do this a lot for you buddy and you're allowed you're allowed X number of piss bombs per year There is a there's a threshold We just put him in a little piss suit Giant cat diaper. Yeah You can put diaper on a cat. I believe it. They don't like it. No, they don't but I believe it I Was pretty much that's that's what's going on with my week I Walked I walked a couple dozen kilometers and lost a couple pounds and then there was piss everywhere and in Kingdom Hearts is pretty good Cool. Well, I mean speaking of baby steps We got some words on the table brah We got some words on the table. Yeah, you got words. We got some babble babbles that turned into Dad dad dad dad dad Yeah Yeah, and it was like, okay, yo first of all Lock it down. Let's go good shit surprising in the sense that it's not the Like we were we actively didn't use the we didn't use mama and dad a whole lot around and we're now more aware of like Oh, yeah, no using that needs to be a thing But we got we got babbles into that and It was funny because like we're like, okay that initial kind of moment was like it was an unintentional sound But that's what came out and we're like, okay We can account that like yeah, I don't know we take those we take those we count that and You know there but there's that room for there's that room for ambiguity with it and Then fast forward like three days or so later and Punch bombs like hey, yo check this out Bye-bye and she's like And I'm like we got a wave we've got intent and bye-bye, you know what that means with the way And It's like oh that is that is not just a babble into an accidental word that is an intentional understanding and contextual hand gesture associated with it like full-on Undeniable um and yeah, it's kind of insane. It's like it's all coming together at like breakneck speeds Um Literally from I've just been you know just messing around and stuff and like she's been she's been loving sounds And it's like I said sound is a big thing the sound of clapping hands everything to do with that is a big deal So putting a little steel pen in front of her and she's messing with it hitting on it Getting the sounds right and kind of noticing like oh if I pull this over and hit this side It sounds a little different. I'm like, oh you like you like that noise. Do you yeah, okay? Here's some little kid drum and drumsticks hitting the sticks Noticing the difference between just shaking the object and aiming it at the at the surface sticks get knocked away Reaches pulls drum over with hand and starts hitting with hand and I'm like you're getting it getting it like yeah So there's so there's the baby part in the tummy right and then then we all know of the fourth trimester Which is the first three months of infancy where there are potato that eats and poops Mm-hmm, right and then I get I would call the in-between after that is like a tomaton state like they're alive and they're Aware but like they're just responding to stimuli You are now seeing thoughts. Yeah, yeah thoughts the acts and intentions The the potato age is over newborn status is officially gone and Like it's the person is coming together and it's happening really quickly. It's kind of nuts and Like yeah things like things like that where you're just like I didn't like you were just from those moments of observation I did there you weren't giving any sign that you're piecing this together and she didn't mimic She doesn't mimic us much at all We do a lot of things to kind of like entice a mimic out of her, but she doesn't do it back She doesn't repeat to it, you know, so like that's a really rare a Thing that just like oh you understood so much of that more than I we thought you did you know The the like like when we mimic like like the spoon and eating and stuff like that It's like no no no I understand what the spoon is I understand which end has the food and which one doesn't I? Deliberately don't want to eat that end right now. I want to chew on this ball, you know on the ball is much more interesting Mm-hmm, and then there's the like I can put you The spoon down back onto the feeding tray, but it's way more fun if I drop it over the edge So what you're gonna watch me do is every time you I take the spoon. I'm gonna drop it over the edge 100% of the time because it's just more fun that way and then I wait a second And you put it back in my food and then we continue the meal. It's great. It's a win-win-win And you're gonna do it every time because you're the bitch in this situation absolutely Fortunately, it's been made a lot easier by getting the the catchy which is I think I talked about it before But it's the little it's a little basically imagine like a piece of Bristol board that has a little That goes underneath the baby seat and so all the things that she drops fall onto that instead of onto the floor Which just make it way easier to reach and pull up and clean so that the floor underneath her is not a horrible mess so That thing is coming in the clutch, but yeah the full-on words and thoughts and gestures and all of that coming together completely and My god, it's happening so fast It's it's and it's all so you're now into it and you're you've seen like it's one of those things like I can tell you Anybody can tell you and you're like, yeah, no, I understand but then it happens You're like, oh now I understand because that happened to me, right? And so like the the one that no one told me is everything is in huge bursts Like when you look at the milestone chart you expect like a gradual progression Because you'll be like, oh no my babies 11 months old and they're not doing any of the year-old milestones. Don't worry. They'll do all of them Yeah, yeah the bar just act like it could always do it. That's though. That's the frustrating part. I Been I've been here where you at? milestones are ahead because We're in the con we are now in the battle of Hey, man, do you want some blueberries? I want some blueberries on my plate right now dad. I'm like, oh No, yeah, yeah, that's not how you ask and he goes May I have blueberries on my plate right now dad dad? Please do you play and I go? Yes, that's better You understood you understood the whole time Absolutely, but it's faster to be rude Yeah, it's like it's funny how this is all happening in the span of a few days But yet still just what we honor stomach on tummy time won't crawl doesn't want to do it Love standing up loves mimic walking, you know, but like when it comes to moving around It's like nah, I hate this actually and with distractions and toys. She scoots backwards From from tummy time, but just won't won't military crawl Won't roll, you know and they say some some kids literally never crawl and then just stand up Some kids never crawl correctly like some kids hit a scoot Like or like a weird push the whole time Until they just get up and yeah fucking walk. I'm done with yes No, she's sequence. She's gonna sequence break because she just she just she hates it And like even though she's displayed the ability to like be on her stomach and hang out there for a while if distracted She always just goes yeah, but I don't like this dough and goes into like a skydiving pose of like stop this I don't want to be here anymore. Even if it's been like two three seconds, you know So I don't remember the the the exact reasoning, but I know my dad walked before he crawled Wow, he just skipped it and that's bad Cuz I believe the reason is because if they skip it When they're walking they walk early really early and they're super top-heavy. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, and like the falling risk falling is bad. Hey higher. Okay, okay. I also feel like there's a basic like I Mean there's a mobility question to have like crawl big rate from giant bomb. Love you guys. Thank you very much There there's a this show would not exist without that show And Sure, and you can you can even go further back and say on the spot Yeah, right go back in a hot spot hot spot the hot spot. Excuse me. Yes Mr. Rich Gallop absolutely Should we talk about digital lockers and mind shares I don't want to talk We can we can always go back to it If I put my child what's slop am I drinking it's a fucking junk of coffee, bro You never seen coffee before you think it's shit. Yeah, it's shit Why'd I do why'd you do that? I don't know why you did that you did that to yourself. That's crazy anyway Anyway Well done It's just cool. Hi. Welcome new folks. What's up? This is this is what it is you see in the shit Amazing So yeah, all right, so you put your There you go. Sure. There we go. So you put your kid in a digital locker, right? And then when you open it up you see they age up and they learned it all No, that's that's that's cool. That's cool stuff and I'm going to you know Take I'm gonna stare at that that drumming Little on that drumming understanding and that that rhythm thing that's going on there with great interest, you know Just if that's what she finds fun, then that's what we that's what you check out more of that Anyway Beyond that there was a couple things I checked out this week. So Yeah, continuing to play pragmata that games again just fucking phenomenal new weapons that have gotten an unlocked and new build types and Now the trials I want to hear that they're tough as fuck So the trials there's some trials that are insane that are like Ridiculously precise to get all the trials are fine If you're bare minimum requirement is to just complete it But if you're trying to get all if you don't want to just complete if you want to get all three Bonuses and they're like two-star difficulty and it's like you have to be precise as fuck with every step of what you're doing and Yeah, there's moments there that are almost like mirrors edge trials from back in the day of like really really get this movement turning and Precision Platforming down for some of these it's wildly tough in some cases However, the one that took up most of the end of my last session was difficult not because of the The challenge but because there was a mechanical problem that was starting to be an issue and that started that felt bad There's an issue going on in the game that most of the time is rewarding where In situations where you want to hack something that you're not fully locked onto or Sometimes you kill an enemy and you stop but you've begun locking onto it It'll target and Diana will start hacking the nearby enemy, right? So there is a loose even if because there's an auto-aim option in settings But even when it's off hack has an auto aiming to it, which is oftentimes good for okay I'm dealing. I'm looking at this But I actually do don't mind the fact that I'm hacking something that's slightly off-camera right now, right? If it's completely off-camera the hack fails by the way, so there but the partial it still works What ends up being really frustrating is this particular challenge? I told you about is the one of the healers I mentioned right so I went back to it to try to clear the third part of it, which is do it in less than 80 seconds or a hundred seconds and The problem with it is that auto locking on hacking thing creates some issues where You can't lock on to the healer when it's beginning its healing action And you stop and start and stop you release aim down the sights and relock on and then it's not working Or you use the manual hard lock toggle which is a souls like you know switch your little cursor to your different targets And it won't toggle to it And then after a couple seconds you eventually can target it But that wasted time just feels really bad because the screen's filled with bullshit that you need to be immensely on top of And you don't have a fraction of a second to deal with So the lock-on is really punishing when the only way to do damn You can't beat the mission if you're not doing damage by hacking the healers mid-heal but the but hacking the healers mid-heal is weirdly difficult to do because of some weird reason and Like I kind of went through a bunch of different versions of it and it I started getting tilted towards the end of the sesh because like You know in addition to grief get coming at me I felt like there were moments where I'm like you're watching me look at a thing on Like unreal stop aiming Reaim and it's not acquiring the target I'm looking at your and there's times where missiles are coming at me and I turned and I look at the missile and I stop aiming and I Reaim and I stop aiming and I reaim and it will not start hacking the missile and I'm like game I don't know what you want me to do because the whole mechanic is look and aim at something to begin the says game how oh So that got really frustrating and It feels like if there were an option to be stricter about Diana's hacking aim That would be maybe like an advanced option to put in the settings You know, but it would but that would probably help to basically be like if I don't look at this thing stop hacking it Give me Exactly what my cursor wants to hack Precisely when I'm hacking it and and give me a sharper fall off and that way you have better control And I could see this being almost like a you know, whatever automatic versus manual type situation But um, you know, it's fine in most cases in most fights because you're like, okay Well, I'm hacking something I'll adapt and then I'll just because it's going to be take too long for me to Stop hacking this current thing and switch to this other thing I'll continue finishing this puzzle and then I'll just move out of the way and you could mostly deal with the fight But in a challenge like that where you have to do it in a very precise way And you can't tack the wrong thing or you're gonna fail That gets really frustrating when the control is like not up to snuff with your the speed you want it to go at um So yeah, that was a weird thing and uh, I started to feel that at the end of that session And that's the only negative I've had really with the game was That particular challenge and how uh, that was going and funny enough like min had earlier in that day had just set the video He's like, here's me doing this this thing and how annoying this exact mission is You know, so I see somebody over here saying they had to switch to massive keyboard to do one of the trials Just because they needed to aim faster. Yeah that it might just be that mission But it it it really is annoying and it feels like maybe a patch will come down the line To address it because I I haven't felt this aiming issue with any other enemy as badly as I felt it with this healing one specifically You know, it like it switches from a regular hacking phase to this healing phase that stops you from being able to interact with it for a while You know anyway, um That being said the rest is great and uh, yeah, but progressing there. Um, I The challenge is ramping up The screen is getting cluttered with shit and it's getting harder and harder to keep on track with things Another problem I kind of started running into is the offensive mode I was describing last time which is like While you're in the middle of your second hack Dump a bunch of ammo in and then cash out the damage If you're not picking up guns that dump ammo Then you can't cash out the damage which means your whole system doesn't work and The guns you've picked you're picking up you besides your carbine and your piston your your carbine and your um your shotgun Everything else has a slow charge time Which means this whole thing is not ideal, you know, so Thankfully, I just beat a boss that allowed me to access more modes And I'm going to be coming back in and trying to build a system around heat And there's like multiple things I got now that are going to be about building up heat and I'm like, okay, cool thank you because Yeah, like I the limitations of this offensive mode are you don't get enough offensive guns, you know When you're in the thick of things so um I do feel that uh You can perhaps save your ammo For the the the the big dudes and to do the optimal damage to them and you get your four shots off and that gun's done You know, um, and I also this is a really really great thing that you you eventually get which is the ability to cycle You know, uh on a slot, uh, which makes it a lot easier to manage your ammo But it still is a problem when you're like I have no shotgun My carbine's empty and I'm looking around the room and neither of those guns are on the ground Offensive mode is useless to me right now. So um, anyway moving on Uh, there was uh, yeah, I guess I'm not much to say on this so far, but uh, I so I've been I played uh, I cleared All the characters in slay the spire too Uh, I already jeez figured it out got the hang of it and was able to yeah make it through with all of them So I'm like, okay. I see what the builds are now for them. So I kind of got uh, uh into looking at something else Like I heard about another Indy weird card game thing called, uh, Forbidden solitaire And I heard of Forbidden solitaire. It's on my wishlist. So I popped that in to take a look at what's going on And uh, it's pretty early, but it seems like it's from It might be from the same folks that made um the hotline game Paranormal home safety hotline. I think it's from them or it's or they're at least included in the um The promotion credits for it or so Um, because I saw them enlisted in other games Yeah, uh, seems seems like there's it's interesting because you boot it up and it immediately just looks like an old pc You know fucking uh Late 90s, you know super vga game uh, and you get Very very quickly introduced to the fact that this is a meta narrative indie puzzle game Yeah, and that's a thing now. It's a thing now and I wonder i'm like Inscription we talked about how the part you didn't like was how you got hoodwinked On the fact that it was a meta narrative indie puzzle. No actually no that that did not hoodwink me My complaint was very specific. I loved that I got hoodwinked My problem was very simple. I didn't think any of the follow-up games were as good as the first one right? Okay, okay. Yeah fair enough because I loved the oh adventure game and in 2d Oh, it caught. Whoa the first one was the best one the robot thing I'm like I actually hate the way the fucking robot version fucking plays I hate it the first one is the best one It is the well the best thought out as well the others are i know that's thematic I actually I know that that's like a big thematic thing That chapter 3 is kind of not as much fun on purpose But still though Um, and then your finale is is a it's just a big homage. That's really cool, but it's it's much simpler Uh, so in this case it's on its sleeve immediately telling you that it's meta narrative because you don't boot up the game You boot up somebody's windows login And you're on their desktop booting up forbidden solitaire And you're gonna say I love fake desktop shit. Yeah I think it's great. I think it's a great framing device. It it was weird because um So it's unfortunate, but it was necessary with uh doki doki literature club That was a game that worked as a peak talking about doki doki literature club It's just a family friendly visual novel. It is a family friendly visual novel um, but when it got ported to uh the switch It had to put a fake os framing device on it because The parts of the game that need an os Don't work if you have to do it with it. Yeah, so It I think um a little bit of that effect gets kind of uh, uh diminished by Putting it inside of its own fake os, you know, you don't you don't get that effect as much but um I will say that uh in this case Yeah, you start out on the desktop and it's kind of being very obvious about the fact that it's a metanet game because as you're playing through it Or whatever you're getting dms from people on our desktop and you know, like it's just it's not hiding it at all and you're getting linked to like youtube videos and game and you know, uh, uh, uh Jpegs and stuff, you know, um and I whatever it is hasn't happened yet I'm still early enough that like the the basic loop of the game is it's basic fun little solitaire kind of setup and You know, we're gonna see what's kind of coming and everything but um I feel that now that that part of the game has been disarmed in a way and And I guess post inscription and all that You kind of are like my bar for this I'm willing to play more but my bar for it is so much higher now I guess the novelty is kind of the novelty is gone. So i'm really like This solitaire game. It's all right. It whatever this is going, but it's not like holy fuck crack balutro Going on therefore whatever this metanarrative is needs to Rock my shit and I don't think that's fair But it's simply because of like well, I mean, that's the world you live in that's the world we live in Yeah, I just after playing the others. I'm like knowing this It's um It's like I was talking about symphony of the night and people who like symphony and I is what lauded is one of the greatest Games ever but like it's on like a couple of objective merits Not quite as good as some of the later metroid bany games that came afterwards It might have been the first one you played It's like how come people glaze this up so much because it was the fucking 90s, man That's it. That's it. This was the only fucking thing like this in town Uh, so forbidden solitaire is is just your your you know, it's coming in the It's it's standing on the shoulders of giants therefore we we're gonna judge it based on that So waiting to see what it's gonna be, but the shoe hasn't fallen yet and I'm also eyeballing this other game that is a uh metanarrative indie puzzle game called titanium court Which I don't know this one so I'm gonna go look at it So this is another quirky thing that either is about to come out or has just come out or Is something is quirky a pejorative in your head? No Because it kind of is for me I don't use it. I don't use it pejoratively. I I I it it can be charming Well, okay, but then I would have said it can't be pejorative But then I would have you said charming if it's not quirky. Yeah, right? I guess I I titanium court you said titanium court and um, it appears to be a You know quirky is not what I thought this was gonna look like at all Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the deal is but all I know is based on the trailer and people and the reviews and people talking about it There's something going on plot wise narrative wise beyond just the simple Match three puzzle games shots and video are not forthcoming at all No, and the trailer is is also being like tongue-in-cheek about the fact that hey, you're looking at tetris attack But then there's some other shit going on with it There are four screenshots on this store page of a empty dialogue box with an extra point of ellipses on it. Yeah. Yeah, so Not something is something is Right. And so this this game, um, uh, which uh, what a titanium court is Also existing not only in a world where I mean over all these games you're talking about It's not only in a world where where inscription exists, but also frog fractions exists frog fractions does exist And we can never forget that So I never forget it. I am I'm very down to see Where we go with these weird weird quirky things, but I'm I'm I am setting the bar much higher Whatever I play something that like is right off the bat Advertising what it's gonna be here, you know um There because there's stuff like, you know, uh, like UFO 50 where I was wondering if there was gonna be one of those But it really just felt like it was a collection of great games and Anything else beyond that was not really the point you know um And and uh, and I will say that if I play the the basic game and the basic game and it's simplest like inscription is one that's really really Engaging and fun to play you almost go like well, I don't care I'm I'm here to play this anyway. And if something else starts happening then so be it You know because if I were playing sleigh the spire or balotro or any of those other games and then you were to tell me Oh, also, there's a meta narrative to it. I'd be like, okay cool. Anyway back to this great game you know So yeah checking that out um beyond that popped in to xk oduos and uh, hey, how is that it works If we you know it you grab a second should have no issue working, right? Yeah It we popped in a second controller and that's it There the only issue that that I that I don't like is it does have a prioritization of peripherals So like as soon as you plug a stick in really as soon as you plug a stick in that stick is always player one over a controller And I don't know why it does things that way sense I guess but if you have a controller already plugged in as device one x input one should be controller one Yeah, but they're like No, this motherfucker Let him have player one so he doesn't stab someone Other other games will put will use the order of input as the order of device You know, so stick goes in first. That's a stick stick goes in thirds. It's a third it's third slot, you know So um, but yeah, so that that worked out that was fine a casual mode and our private matches only of course uh popped back in invincible to see what's going on with the full roster of that game and and Music is pretty cool. I have to say. Um, who was Reggie pointed out who did the music? I forgot who it was. There was a name behind it, but um I I just note notable that the soundtrack is good. Um Uh glitch mob is behind it glitch mob. That's why yeah, so that that makes sense and uh playing the full roster and checking it more of the cast there's Some some should I like seeing over there? There's uh, um, yeah conquest and uh power plex and some of those dudes that are Season three villains that are pretty dope Yeah, they did a good job representing them with a move list. That's interesting. I um I feel like that's a curiosity pick for me that i'm gonna I'll I'll dabble every now and then I enjoy the feeling of it that I'll I'll dabble It's not it's far from my priority list and it's not that great to look at so Uh, but I am I do have fun enough with what's going on that I'll I'll pop back in to see what what these characters are up to and stuff every now and then I think um, and yeah, I it I also saw that like the story mode was like an hour or something like that So pretty short. I think for for people that are looking for single-player. So not much to it. Um But There's one thing that I was bummed out by which is conquest the villain Uh of season three who's that's the old guy with the hand. Yep. Yep Prepare for my arrival worm um, that dude is fucking sick. What if what if, uh, wilford brimley Was a was a a sein come to destroy Earth, you know, okay, just yeah, and uh give me diabetes. He absolutely will and um, he delivers the best monologue in the entire series And it's unfortunately not part of the character's kit in the game And I just felt like I know it'd be hard to work it in there But boy, I would have loved if they found a way to do so, you know um Anyway, uh that the and then the the the uh, aron paul character power plex is also doing his best sound alike and Landing it way harder than the stuthrogan is. I'll give them that credit He's they they clearly got the actors who are willing to come back like jk simmons showed up and and such but uh for the I saw some clips, um, and some of the some of the sound likes are doing a They're working hard. They're working real hard And others are doing a great job like the guy they got to do fake goggans Is pretty good. Hmm for seasill. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure someone in my household would Immediately clock it as fake goggans, but I thought it was pretty good Um, I think uh, oh, sorry one second peer be Okay Excuse me phone call so uh, the The the power plex replacement the aron paul replacement is extra important because aron paul said that he doesn't want to play that character anymore because oh It gives it's too emotionally like it's too much anguish To play the role. What? Yeah Yeah, I know Exactly after playing jesse. This was harder and he was like, yeah, I can't I can't Pick this back up also. Hey Hey Raise up my hand. I am not an actor. Mm-hmm. I've never been an actor. Mm-hmm Does he know it's fake? Yeah, well look not he know it's not real not everyone can be sir anthony hopkins, okay? And to be fair like as much as we make fun of like the the the method bullshit, you know the the Method acting bullshit and I will continue to oh, yeah Oh, no, so, uh, you know, uh american history x Yeah, so the girl uh feruca balls wait, whoa You can't tell me method and then go pull you know an american history x. That's exactly what i'm telling you so, uh, uh feruca feruca feruca balls, uh, I think the name of the um actor who played the girl in that was going method and After a certain amount of time. She was basically on the set not talking to anyone of color Being like i'm in character and method enough and they had to eventually be like Hey, can you stop it's getting really awkward and the staff on set feel weird about this and Don't want to work with you and it's getting weird and they had to tell her to stop being method racist on the set You know that that reminds me of maybe my favorite um like Comment joke that i've seen over and over Uh on tiktoks on youtube videos on whatever it's like you'll have a clip of like i think it's adam driver In uh, I think it's american clansmen just going nuts Just going absolutely crazy On the racism and then the top comment is like the line was get out of here You gotta put it all in yep. Yep. You gotta dig deep dig deep That's what they teach you at acting school. You know, um, but here I will give here I will give the olive branch and out To daniel day lewis one of the greatest fucking actors of our generation Because he goes away for 10 years comes back and goes insanely method And they when asked about why he goes because i'm a bad actor. I have to do it this way That's the answer Everyone goes oh, you know what that's some humility because methods so ostentatious and pretentious, right? But it's like uh like he is so good And he's straight up like I have to go method because i'm bad at this It's the only way for me to deliver a good performance What a beast interviews with um with de caprio and um sam jackson about um jango and chained In which uh, terentino and sam jackson were not happy with de caprio's performance They're like it's not Mean enough. It's not Uninhuman enough you need to yeah, and also you got to say it all the time I don't want to say it all the time And so like sam jackson had to sit him down and give him like this speech But like you got to just fucking do it like and gave this a whole thing and after that to caprio wouldn't talk to him Or any other people on set you just go in do it be crazy leave Oh Give him gig it he gave him the pass on set Yeah, I think you're acting you're acting I think now it's different when the writer of the movie casts himself to give himself the pass in his own movie multiple times in multiple movies Across the course of your career Funny Like what comes up what what happens more feet or the n word which which happens to quentin more It's a toss-up it goes either way The count I I don't know I it could be 50 50 hold on hold on hold on here's the question How we counting it are we counting instances? or seconds Right, I was thinking terentino n words like two seconds But you'll you'll lounge on a shot of a foot for like a minute. Okay, so But there's a but there's layers to it because there's the simple lash there's the zoom in on the foot and there's the The word being said, but then there's quentin himself on salma hyac's foot And quentin himself on the n word. So there's a difference between a multiplier. That's what I'm saying, right? There's force multiplication involved in In the equation I don't know. I don't know but there's there's some math to figure out here n word versus foot math I don't know before I knew about any of that stuff and I was like this wiggle your big toe scene is weird It's weird. It's this is a long scene for nothing Please look forward to the new quentin terentino movie the final of his career n word toe And then and then and then and then the subtitle would be like gotta catch him Now now um For for for what it's worth that is the name for a brazil nut For I do know that okay, so then yeah, there you go. There's a reason to call your movie that It's about the brazil nut felt like it. No quentin. No, think of some bullshit Starring paul dano I don't even know what we're talking about invincible versus um, I was saying that uh, uh, the Yeah, so as a result of of iron paul unable to reclaim that role They need a sound to like for this character as that continues to exist in the show So, you know kudos to them for that Kudos to them for that uh, anyways, um Method racism is fucking wild bro uh, moving on I wonder how many people are like, please can I get the role please please please? Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited And then just they're like At the end of the the characters trailer for in the game He literally yells he can't keep getting away with this which is not aligned from invincible It is not aligned from invincible at all Well, hey, uh, I just said oh come on. Let me tell you something. Okay You will in a year, uh, be exposed to your own verbal crutches possible Because I have now been walking around my house and heard oh come on Yeah From another room And like do I really say it that often so remember what I was telling you? Oh the child said like I'll say something and the kid will go don't say that to me Yeah, right. Yeah, like where the fuck did he get this until I caught myself saying that to chat So all of that is I'm expecting to be amplified on the basis of Her being within earshot for a good chunk of What's going on for now? That's not gonna be I already have one remember Oh when we're talking about the the the the sejam slam story where you called up sejam and you're like, hey Yo, yo And for like two weeks the little man was just walking around I was going yo Oh, it's so infectious Earworms earworms man. God damn it. Yeah, and listen, let's be real. You've already done that Uh via best friends 10 years ago to an entire generation of fucking youtube kids So You know, have you noticed some of these messages from chat have gotten like the the distance is starting to transcend like life Life stages. Uh, yeah, like it's now I'm in middle school now. I have my own baby and I'm like I got I got a sub that I saw a sub that popped up that said um Whatever the amount of months it is that equals 10 years And there were like 10 years and I was like, holy shit That's fucking crazy. Thank you for subscribing for 10 years Anyway, um Also shout outs to um, I was gonna say on the voice acting uh, uh, alex lay does a great steven un sound alike for invincible Actually, okay, so all that aside the only other thing I wanted to mention um, which Um, I don't know if you you heard any of it, but it's kind of interesting the uh, the digoversus meta first to 10 Okay, so I I saw that Video come up and it was like why did japan hate it? Yeah, and I clicked on it and i'm like, how is this 30 minutes long? There must be like a much deeper thing going on here than I would have expected Okay, so you caught you caught the gist of that Um from from you. Yeah, it's really just the just the tiniest bit. Yeah, I need a re explanation from the source And it's it's super interesting. Well, I mean to be perfectly honest brian f is the the best source He did a great video On the aftermath with you right now He yes, he did a great video Hello, um on on the the breakdown of it, but like after swatching that initial first attempt So daigo fought menna rd, uh as um an event before the evo um japan weekend and they decided to Uh brand it as it was as evo legends slash kimono michi, which is a first attempt series that takes place in japan and um there's The the the the brief of it right to to kind of cut to the chase on what is a much longer discussion simply for time here is that a lot after it after it happened a lot of japanese fans were really really mad online and Rick the evo organizer had to apologize for how the event was run and for everything that went wrong pardon I'm assume menna one. Yes menna one ten to six and it was actually because he is a young person and daigo is an old man um comparison menna is also a ridiculous beast and he's playing street fighter six to the utmost daigo is playing street fighter to the utmost and uh At the end of the day, I think we looking at the track record Not at all in fact he has the guy who won evo like not last year but two years And and and daigo took the lead initially in the first two games and then got it to five five as well And took the lead a second time in the set. It was a pretty good set um That being said menna is is not as young as the the the young Incredible players that are coming up making a name for themselves now, but he is Of the newer generation You know, um, but I mean he was he was killing it from street fighter five and and so on as well. Anyway history long aside um, the japanese players were going underneath that message and on twitter overall going Like this is disgraceful Never, uh, right? Like how dare you look down on on us and on this event and kind of just were going in talking about how evo came along and trampled on This special thing that that the the community cherished and It was it was really confusing because essentially Everybody that watched it kind of heard about there was these um technical failings where the screen turned off There was it started late. It was delayed by like an hour and a half That's disrespectful all that all that stuff was bad, right? Um, the the game was zoomed in too far. You couldn't see properly all these weird things are happening But uh, those were not even the crux of it There were moments where they had cut to the crowd and people like bonchan Who's another famous legendary player was like stop looking at us and focus on the players. He started yelling at the camera and people were going uh on in the comments about how Like this this whole event asking people who they thought was going to win was a disrespectful thing Why would you do that? But when you're watching the event you're watching what looks like a normal first to 10 evo Stage moment where they're like, all right guys, let's make some noise Who wants a minute to win? Who wants tiger to win? All right, let's go, you know, and all of that was just standard esports fgc big stage mannerisms and it turns out that all of that is insanely insulting to this particular type of event known as kimono michi uh, so the the event was started by daigo the word means the beast's path and essentially as somebody who Created the idea of being a professional, you know fighting gameplayer in japan where it was looked down upon in society the idea to Keep playing and try to do this until it becomes a profession was a wild crazy unheard of thing and um This whole idea behind the event is one where it's not just a regular first to 10 that you do for a money match Or for views or for anything. It's meant to kind of be a like definitive understanding of who is the better player Forever and you don't in this game and you do not get a rematch You do not redo this for any reason. It is your pride. It is your career on the line and there's a lot of like There's a there's a somberness to the event that is meant to be conveyed By the previous the the history of how it went down one of the biggest ones You know that we go back to was tokyo Winning evo and then losing a first to 10 in kimono michi against daigo crying at the arcades and everyone was like Man, he really puts his heart into it. He really felt that set But we didn't know the full context that it was like no this this meant more Right to the japanese player and and this was something that was understood by uh the the japanese fgc that we did not know about and i if there are like those in the west that Were aware of this I never thought of this event as anything with that level of gravitas to it and it makes these previous events make so much sense So, you know, I see a first to 10 of an older player. I feel like I go cool Yeah, right. That's it. That's it. That's the all right, and then sometimes you go It's a first to 10 or first to 20 and there's a hundred thousand dollars on the line. Oh my god clocker versus neo Holy fuck think of like oh the the dignified and solemn retirement of a of a hero and and because he's not gonna fucking die at the end of the set right And so you just come back whenever he wants and so daigo who is he's undefeated in the kimono michi series This was something for the for the players that was like they were looking at this event every time it cut to the crowd It's like stopped looking at the crowd Focus on the players this event has to be supposed to be just about them And the fact that the previous ones there's early ones where they were just held in an arcade at an arcade machine People crowded around it and the idea is almost like you are lucky to be witnessing this event at all um So when it becomes this big main stage thing The least you could do if you're aware of the history and what it means is carry it out with that same energy But instead it became just a big stage event and that that shit on everything And so that was like Not something at all that was understood at the time right Compounded by the fact that there were awkward moments where like one of the things before the match was a mistranslation of what daigo said um A really rough one because there was a big what i'm not talking about now is like this whole pre going into it Everyone was like dude, you don't have to do this men is gonna beat you. This is this is too much You don't have to face someone that this that is this strong And he kind of had this big promo event almost like cutting a wrestling promo But it was real of him being like is that any way to live your life? You know to wake up and run away from these challenges and you know He kind of just waxed on about like his career so far and how he found himself like thinking like Oh, maybe i'd be walking away from the genre But he had this whole moment of like building up a really exact a really hype Prematch the vibe of being like i'm gonna train and be as best as i can for this fight i'm gonna hold up my hand. Yeah, yeah, sure obviously These are these are competitions and all competitions have overlap but the The general you don't have to do this you don't have to fight somebody this strong Is usually associated with competitions that will harm your body Like yeah, so yes, you'll lose face So the Yeah, but the reason but the reason why that energy was so prevalent amongst the entire community Is because looking at it looking at where daigo is at in street fighter 6 and looking at where men is at just by placement and regular showing There is a feeling of Why are we doing jake paul versus mike tyson? We don't need to do this right And that was the i mean the reason they did that was for the money Of course I was doing it for the money But but you know that the energy behind that like what are you trying to say here? Why are you doing this match when it feels so like lopsided is what the question that was being proposed was And so it turns out that it's like, um You know so for him he's internally. He's like why what he's like no no no i'm this is not that i'm not running away from that Right i'm gonna face this down and furthermore I was thinking about like retiring but he found himself like Feeling stronger than ever and more invigorated as he was like locked in for the set And these kimono michi sets are always meant to be like you have months to prepare for this one moment And that's it and then it's done you put it all in on the line just your pride for that one fight uh, so He he found himself is so invigorated by that. He couldn't believe it. He's like he's like i feel like i'm at my best in years um And he conveyed that on stage when they asked him how he felt Where he said i'm turning 40 45 next month, but today i'm in my prime. So if you defeat me you should feel proud Oh, that's a good quote and everyone got hyped and you can hear the moment where the crowd goes You know umesa like he's so right around all that that got translated into I'm turning 45 next month. So clearly i'm in my prime That's different Right listen man moms are tough and that Completely deflated what that was And it was totally taken the wrong way as i like yeah, i'm pretty old So this shouldn't be a big and that too was a rough fucking thing Yeah, you know, so i just found this whole little moment very interesting to to because i'm like you can be in the same community For years right for all these years and not know about this cultural context applied to this event And i saw a big part of the discussion around after i talked about it and you know discussing with with reji too That like there's also a like a philosophical difference where here for example We might look at it and go you should like never say you can't be better than this person or you're locked in time Or you can't improve you should always be able to improve you should always be able to work harder to get better, right? And i think there's an understanding there that is there's something valid to that in the sense that The willingness to improve over your losses is the whole point of why the genre is fun You know what well, yeah, i could beat up mike tyson. Just give me six months. Give me just give me some time But but i think if two people enter into like a particular set with the same mutual understanding of that I you got to respect it. That's the grounds they the terms they lie by and that's the that's the grounds They're willing to fight on and everybody that is in the scene knows about that as well um I'm not we did not know about that energy coming into this type of first attend But it makes so much more sense why all that anger was there and why there was so much All the feeling that goes into it from the previous history of the event, you know um and the the rules of nature ass name that is you know the The beast's path or the animal's path is like Almost this implication of like you can be better in the future and win future events But tokyo's crying because he knows He's he's never gonna be better than daigo in this moment He lost that set and he has to accept that result And then in this moment in time and then the future who knows what it holds and I understand that way of looking at things It's not the way we're used to looking at things, but I get it and I get that anger, you know No, i'll just be like that that fucking Pussy got lucky. I'll get him next time There you go. Yeah. Yeah, no self reflection required interesting ass event interesting stuff um I Yeah, I feel like uh, well anyway, I mean, uh, you know now that that's it's something that that I think is understood They're the whole bit with like evo legends as the name and all that is I It's just I I'm not looking forward to seeing how the the the nine events next year and the calendar continues to affect things You might only have to see them happen once Because the Saudis are already pulling out of a bunch of their fuck out. Yep. Golf is drying up So we'll see what actually happens Do you know complicated geo political events the Saudi Arabians have less money to throw around on stupid bullshit? Like fighting games Never mattered to begin with but um, but yeah, I uh, uh, that's that's that's that's something that I get there too And and I guess I'll also say too and in the wake of that video of the some of the discussion around it as well Is the number of folks that like a couple people were popping up to go like man, it's just fucking video games They need to chill and it's like You you these Dan that mentality well for you're on a channel discussing this as a as that is like it is a Event that is taking place in this community with people who literally Have dedicated their lives to the thing you're talking about It keeps the lights on and feeds their families I think what the fuck are you talking about? I was streaming ff 14 And there was a guy in there when I was reading the patch notes that called Someone else in there a nerd for something they were doing and I'm like you are in my show watching me read Patch notes dog. Yeah, you are a massive fucking nerd. Are you crazy? You're clicking here listening lost your mind You're listening to this discussion about the set in this fighting game taking place in japan like you're here You know, anyway, it's yeah, it's kind of nuts to just hand wave dismiss that And not even think of the context of like, okay. Well, that's you and your life But these people in their lives the fact that they're this dedicated to it is what allowed them to be at the peak of the fucking Genre you don't get to that seat and get to be world Quality at anything with that attitude. So I gotta tell you though. There is part of the attitude. I feel like it's connected It's like an underneath like prerequisite, which is always like I could beat him if I had time But you're like you're looking at Steph Curry fucking Like just absolutely nailing buckets and you're just like man, it's just a fucking game It's the competition version of the narcissist prayer Right Right Not that important. Well, if it is this like well, I could do it if I really wanted to Yeah, um, no, it's it was just I couldn't believe that a straw man walked in the door at the end of the conversation Can you can you believe there are people who live their lives and walk around and are a straw man made of straw? Just leaving trails actually are you and I have encountered them like the people who just have the worst opinion on literally Every single thing you could ever bring up and their opinion is as simple as it appears That's always the one that gets me. Like oh, is there like a reason no This shit ass opinion just fully formed like Athena from the fucking top of Zeus's head and went You know, I don't think these guys are any good. I could beat them. It's what happens when the first thought is the only thought There is no there's nothing deeper. There's no reflection. 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This is what I would like to term anti advertising We're here now the worst Possible thing if they had told her she wouldn't have taken the the sponsorship and wouldn't have said nothing But now they're on fucking blast because they tried to fuck over the world's largest creator The greed incredible. Um Yeah, no like we talked about the the the slop that was showing up on steam the other day during the indy fest And there's a whole thing of that going on and then the ones who pretend that it's not there and try to hide it and such It takes another level of balls to not only hide it But then go out and start marketing to people Specifically hiding it from the people who you're trying to get to advertise your game as well, you know, but I I had a I had a a I have had two email chains in the past year One of which was we can't tell you the game right now But it's a very exciting upcoming property and I was like is it this and they're like we can't talk about it I'm like because if it's this specific game, I'm not gonna cover it They're like we'll talk about that. Well, we'll cycle bound a rat and that that email chain is like 15 emails long until they Absolutely told me it was the game. I fucking knew it was Yeah I and then I have a different one where they were about maximizing whatever I'm like does this have jnai in it? They're like Mm-hmm. Are you excited for this opportunity? I'm like does it and they refuse to answer me? So I dropped it. Yeah, I can only imagine with whatever you're just describing Straight up like lying to the promotion as well. Um, yeah, I know I know I know the game I knew exactly what I knew exactly which one. Of course. Yeah, I knew exactly which one you were talking about. Yeah um, so when this is Happening I can only imagine they are looking and thinking well first of all, they're either a not thinking or b going That's possible, right? But b is also like All the press is good press Because now you're here about it not this now now you hear about it You know and now you're talking about it and now the people who hear this that are uh, Not all brainwashed anti-ai Tards or whatever they fucking say the shit is so brainwashed ironmouse fans those people are for real It's so it The the the the pro a i ridiculous shit that pops up in the comments of this is they get so Anyway, they're going down a line where they're probably thinking we'll get those people to support us though. So it'll be fine You know um, it's it's it's insane. So So here's the thing there's a huge amount of people that that are out of the sphere entirely And those people are going to try something or not based off of a trailer and no other information The when you're doing this type of advertising through me through you woolly through ironmouse. You're already Engaging with an engaged audience So you have to treat them like an engaged audience Yeah, I think when you especially look at numbers and just go big streamer numbers go You don't think about who you're putting that towards or where they're going or why right, it's kind of like um Like uh, uh folding ideas shout outs dan olson, uh, uh mountain dan as I call them Um, just dan olson resident smart bald person. Yeah, opposed to me regular dumb bald person Hey now I'm not as smart as dan fucking olson. Hey, I didn't follow up this hey now with any sentence I just I just said hey, I just said hey now You know dude, I told you this before on the show, but I'm gonna say it again There was a there was something I was talking to my friend of mine maxi 71 on discord a long time ago And I was I was doing some of my bullshit. I don't know what the fuck it was But you know, I do my annoying bullshit and he was like pat with the fuck and I just said hey listen listen And they just said He just started to completely lose his fucking mind Is there a follow up to that or? No, there's nothing hey now. Hey I was just trying to slow it down so I could escape Um, so he just did a video um, uh unfolding ideas where he got invited to the beast games and he's like um Are you sure you invited the correct person? Do you know what I do? You know like the me the lines goes up guy like why are you bringing me out to something? Knowing that I will sit here and roast the shit out of it For hours on end. I'll create a diagram mr. Beast, you know, and it's like I will fly out I will go I will get my camera and I will cook this shit For fucking hours, you know, I've been hearing not great things about the recent mr. Beast challenges Can you believe it would you wow? Uh, I supermarket one is the basic way that it was explained to me by a friend is that Mr. Beast man, whatever his name is jimmy beast. Mm-hmm Uh, just doesn't know how to make a game Like doesn't yeah, the yeah the fundamental aspects of play exactly and the game had people like not wanting to lie or distrust each other because the incentives were too. Oh, I'm talking about the supermarket one. Okay. Okay Where he trapped all those people in a supermarket And uh, the it's whoever whoever leaves the supermarket last gets a big prize But it's a supermarket. You can stay in there forever But it's the worst location you could fit so that kind of challenge I too have heard about some of the problems and woes happening with the beast games, but I heard about them Through dan olson who you flew out? To report on the event and now I know about how that's not going well because of the guy that you brought it like I don't Anyway, so all this to say I'm just publicity good publicity. I'm thinking that maybe that's what's happening with uh, you know this Did you see uh him get punched by mike tyson? No It was very interesting for one thing There is maybe about 10 frames of mr. Jimmy beastman after getting hit by mike tyson In which you do see a real human emotion on his face And that emotion is Right And he snaps back he snaps back onto the the fucking, you know cardboard cut out shit But you like you see it you for a second Yeah, well gotta gotta think about the views There is a person under there deep deep under there Um, anyway, whatever that game was, um, that's that's kind of It's it's shocking how unshocking it is because I feel like you're just gonna start to see this happen more And we're gonna start to get these emails and you're gonna start to Have to just be very like hey What's going on here and um You know they there was a point when when the question was I remember like, you know for the brief couple months We're like hey does this game have nfts. Is this an nft game? Remember that remember that era Then then now we don't have to ask that question anymore. You know, but Um, anyway beyond that other stuff that I found interesting Uh, so I think you're gonna like this one actually I would like to like this one. Willie the author of attack on titan hadjime isayama had a statement on erin Oh, yeah, yeah Uh, very interesting. So this erin was actually fucking based the whole time and if you don't believe that you're a pussy Uh, this is this is the author of attack on titan discussing the uh, the end of attack on titan Obviously if you don't want to hear spoilers about that tune out now so, um The uh recent interview Uh, basically led to him saying erin became a protagonist who committed mass slaughter On a scale rarely seen in any other works of fiction as for why I conceived such a story from the beginning Um, it was part of my desire to create a narrative with a major twist where the victim becomes the perpetrator But a large factor was also my own immaturity and foolishness at the time when I was in my early 20s That aspect of that aspect became more core to erin's character leading to the point where he Confesses not as someone who is forced into wrongdoing by circumstances But as someone who harbored a desire to do harm However attack on titan had long since ceased to be mine alone and erin became a character loved by many readers In the end without fully committing to portraying him as a detestable figure I found myself depicting him with a certain closeness and sympathy as a result I feel there remains a sense of insincerity with the story's conclusion at least in my own assessment I actually totally disagree with that really because I find that incredibly on point in the sense that the idea of Um looking at the parts of him that are still like there is a truth to that There is still him saying the the the the charm of him saying oh man I still like oh I was just faking it a bit like you know when talking about uh about wanting me casso to care about him In those moments. Yeah, I found that to be like what he's saying there about like I didn't come fully commit to him being Fully detestable Right that little that little part where you're like you still look for the protagonist underneath. I'm like it is true it is there and It could have been something that was much more clear in making There no way back for him But the characters in like our men and everybody are looking for that way back and it always felt like oh Maybe there will be one because the narrative didn't fully commit to it. I I totally get what he's saying So I actually think that that that aspect is good I think I think I have known a lot of people in my life not me But a lot of people in my life who are actually like desperate To give to have a reason to give someone another chance That is like an incredibly common emotion And I think it's actually very realistic for characters in this to be like well or even like readers to be like Well, maybe maybe if this Maybe if this they can be Redeemed or whatever I think that like As humans are complex anytime you show somebody having Signs of that you can further make a convincing Display of you know if you want to talk about like the the the type of person who is willing to commit that commit this type of slaughter They might have these type of elements to them You don't have to make someone too dimensional in order to get that point across But I do think that you can have the characters say and do and act those ways but like you can I guess this is where I uh, I'll well Where you're running into the the camera on a Walter white problem the camera I talk about the camera some people hate when I talk about the camera right no But the camera is real but the camera is real because it's like it's a sniders camera told you that Superman is Jesus Christ it tell the camera is is the author's point of view of the story and What the weight of the author wants to focus on and that is a That has an identity in the story and sometimes you can feel that heavier than others as you just said with christ christ Clark you know and in this case I think he's pointing out the fact that he's like yeah, man I kind of had an edgy character when I was in my 20s and I got to this point And I didn't fully want to give up or give in to the fact that like the story at this point had changed or at the very least The reception to this character had changed and if you want to commit to this idea You can have a someone who is multifaceted in being this insane authoritarian nightmare character But you can also have the quote-unquote camera be like yeah, but you're still horrible I know you don't have a way back from what you're doing here. I have a solution Do you know how you you clean this up like a nice and neat post ocean erin grows a mustache That's it that's all there is to it. That's it. You know what you know what mustache i'm talking about That's it Just go into the anime and fucking just just Done and done done I No confusion Now I guess the question like How sad is this how long and how sad is the sad boy arc that follows? You know Is it the longest saddest sad boy arc of all time because Or you can you know, you could choose how long you want to linger there or so either way either way um Yeah, I think that like The the the same camera that is framing those things that that we're describing Also decides to go focus on that baby being passed on that cliff side. Yeah, and Like is emphasizing the fuck out of that and going this is the same person That you're that you're looking at causing this you have to accept this as a part of his character too and Uh, I put a mustache on the worm too Okay, wait now you lost oh oh on The on the on the On the original creature. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah fine fine sure So stupid Um Yeah, I I What the fuck was its name? What did they was the oh, I don't fucking know. There was there was a name for the yeah Yeah, all right, sure The mustache paths everyone Everyone who gets connected through the paths grows a mustache I just have this image of like future erin Like doing the thing where he's talking all hallucinogenic and his self and he just has like a sharpie on him And he just On little on little baby erin Okay, we're talking about filtromites, right? No, we're talking about filtromites Yes, okay. All right. Just making sure yes. Thank you. Viltrumites. Good. Just making sure um All right, beyond that there was also Uh, kind of just a weird one. I don't know why but for some reason the entire source code for metal Your solid two just leaked Oh, there was a psb version that got sent to some company and somebody there left it open yada yada um, yeah, so full source code popped up on for for chan and uh, it's kind of wild because because it's the source code Uh, that means everything All all the builds all the committed uh parts of the code are still in there including the pre 9 11 stuff That got commented out So they're they're currently looking to see what that entailed because we know the version of the game that came out that got censored because of 9 11 And there was another version that was gonna way more involve the twin towers and the Manhattan shoreline Um as arsenal gear was plowing through everything. So I guess maybe someone's going to pull that scene out and We'll get to find out what else kojima predicted and then cut out I would not be surprised to see that that was never redone and reintegrated back in I mean, I'm ready I'm ready for a world where mgs2 had cut content predicting fucking bitcoin Predicting his own firing from konami and potentially Uh, co vid into death stranding. I I believe all of that could be in the mgs2 code Yeah Some exactly references to you gw referencing fucking epstein man. Like it's did you imagine if Mgs2 had come out even one week earlier I mean But the fact is the gold man. So it would have come out after 9 11, but the gold master would have already it would have already been It would have already started I think the version I think the timeline we have where He's constantly sorry for predicting the future and this is not what he wants, but it happens anyway Is kind of incredible though, you know And to the point where his latest statement is I have to think about my creative works from now on. I can't be depressing everybody By hard calling out exactly how bad the world is going to get Oh, I think we're done with spoiler talk now. I suppose about attack on titan. Oh, that's true um All right, there was a new article uh that jason schreyer published where they went in depth on what's happening with gta 6 behind the scenes and Big sweat big stress We want to talk about the the industry. We want to talk about the Expectations we want to talk about infinite growth, etc Here are the bullet points expectations according to uh strauss zelnick are So high and so terrifying The creative team has been given unlimited financial resources to deliver perfection That is a fucking stupid idea What is now perfection is the expectation Nine women can make a baby in one month Sony has a marketing deal with rock star, but it's not the reason why the game won't launch on pc day one They've historically gone to console first to serve the consumer, etc um Development costs have gone significantly up and ai's influence notwithstanding as they haven't seen the costs decline yet Selling 10 million units a miraculous figure for most competitors would be considered disastrous for gta 6 As some analysts have forecasted it will exceed 25 million copies sold at launch. So the stakes are high They're not releasing into an economy that is currently Not the pandemic and also maybe having a gas thing ongoing So i've been told that what that translates to is It needs to be the 50th best-selling game of all time to break even And it needs one in three active ps5 users users to own a copy of the game okay Here's the problem. Here's the genuine wait. Wait. Hold on pat. Have you identified the problem? I have identified the problem and I don't think it's the problem that you think it is. Okay I think the problem is that it will hit those numbers And push expectations for everybody else into fucking space It okay. It doesn't matter whether it hits it or not. The problem is that these expectations exist and because they exist Fucking moron assi sweets will look at it and go GTA did 22 million in a day. How come we didn't do 22 million in a day hitch.jpg Buh they did In an industry that is What happened like I was gonna say ura boros, but like It's just a head and like there's you can't even see the body anymore It's it's a mobius strip of head and ass. It's it's infinite. You can't identify head. It's just And you're going to still now Throw this out there which the complete dumb ass c-suite investment, etc group look at and go. Oh, we can still Uh get paid in this industry. We can still do it. Look it's still possible here Right or it doesn't hit those insane expectations and it all fucking comes tumbling down anyways Either way One in three To a 50th of all time to break even I I think that is I I you can correct me I think gta 6 has the name To actually do it But this is the last time it can Because the next time Those standards will be raised but there won't be 40 percent more people playing video games Infinite budget means infinite quality means infinite money in return, right? That that is what that means. Oh, yeah, that's that's it. That's business Um It's like because demand is infinite, right? Yeah, okay, I believe I like I believe so I believe like supply and demand are They're aligned that go up forever. I I know I'm not an economist But we live in an era in which in the video game business at least that's the one that I feel strongly enough to talk about Um, every cc decision is made along the lines of there being infinite demand And and how come we didn't capitalize on infinite demand because there is it's fucking infinite demand 8 billion units sold is not enough We need to market to more lights outside. Uh, uh, dead ass. I just reached out to me and mentioned the uh, shark card bundle like nonsense Where the gta 5 has sold more copies than it has players because whale attics for gta online would buy multiple copies of the game at discount to get more gta bucks Amazing. Yes I'm seeing some folks going does woolly not understand how possible this is does he not understand how previous gta is what? That's not the point. That's not what i'm saying. Don't understand that. That's not the point. The point is that it's not sustainable How are you missing this this is not an industry that can continue To keep to keep up this expectation and surpass it the next time it doesn't matter It's extra crazy because say gta 6 does do these numbers it took A finite amount of money out of a finite amount of people in the economy Which means there's less of that finite amount of money to go around for the other games But the other games will expect A percent increase in money because gta 6 did it I mean if you only plan to play grand theft auto games and only play rock star games and not play any other video games Or give a fuck about anything else in the industry then yeah, that's a success Cool. How come you can't make us three as many three point shots of steve curry because i'm not steve curry Skill skill issue Tell that to the investors Um anyway Speaking of the investors, um Game stop is preparing to make an offer to buy ebay Yeah, this this is awesome. I this is an awesome sequence of events I mean, it's only entertaining in as far as the interview with the ceo asking Hey, so The company is worth 12 billion game stop and ebay is Taking an offer for 56 billion so how Can game stop afford to buy ebay? and he's like I don't understand your question And it's like i don't want to tell you that i have tens of billions of dollar angel investor because I don't like who they are half cash Half stocks check the website for more details and they're on the show going No, no, no, we understand but we have you here now and we're asking you that the numbers of what this say It is worth do not equal So What Is the how is the money going to happen and he's just and he's like You will see what happens then check the website half cash half stock. I don't understand your question He just he just loops until it shuts down the interview. I don't understand. I don't understand You can just say nothing you could also just say nothing Nothing was also a choice. Um, yeah pretty hilarious stuff. Why take the interview at all? Um I uh Yeah, and you know what we will see what happens. I suppose but I I imagine that they'll have to well You know what I was about to say they'll have to declare where Those funds came from but at some point they will but what they declare doesn't I mean, but will they Think about it at some point. It has to be on a piece of paper somewhere of access to someone Does that piece of paper have to be real? it does Paperwork has to exist somewhere and are the people checking that paperwork not uh Going to be going to be honest about it. That's that's that's a that's a different thing That's that's a no You know current current times current situation Yeah Anyway, um Hey after that big dls s five Uh fucking slobberknocker of an announcement Uh The director of re9 said hey everybody Uh, it's pretty cool how everyone had such a positive response to our art design with grace and it means that we got it right Absolutely, and it's like talking with positive words about how happy they are about how everyone loves the grace design and you know They got them they got everything right and they got the emotion and they really conveyed everything And they're like and so how do you feel about? What the rest and it's like yeah, so we're just happy that everyone's really excited and about About how and it's like yeah like base you can just you can feel Right underneath it You know the the the the team versus the folks that are forcing the issue That made the decision in the higher ups um And essentially they were like yo, thank you for getting big mad at how stupid and ugly And dumb the yassified version of grace was Fantastic. Yeah, the yassified version of grace didn't even look It's interesting as regular grace terrible Also grace's actor fucking A plus that right that character is great Right up there to the top of good resident evil characters genuinely Yeah, I mean I think that response would have been in place for any face getting replaced by anything generated at this point Simply because of the absolute distaste for the technology But the fact that they replaced someone that people thought did a great job and you know, ultimately nailed it Doesn't fucking help the situation Speaking of fucking stupid, um, this is a story that I need you to explain because I once again Don't understand. I will tell you why Is star citizen on course to reach a billion dollars? Who laundering who's getting killed who's sleeping with the fishes like what's actually happening here? Is it so star illness is it wales plus mafias yakuza plus illness? Okay, so star citizen is not A scam it's a grift Okay, they are making it Things are happening And the promise is so large like it's an infinite promise, right? Um, and they just keep promising more And they are working on it, right? That they have attracted just a huge proportion of I don't know whale kings. Okay, so it's a cult got it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's it's a cult. It's a cult. All right. Cool. Yeah um because guy with Guy with functionally infinite cash reserves who kicked in 50 grand on star citizen Comes back two years and finds out that more of the game has been made Kicks in another 50 grand Like that's it Plain a smash cut to the c-suite of all of these studios. We were just describing going Well, they can get a cult Why can't we get a cult? As long as they keep working on it enough to put out Something every six months to 18 months It's not a scam Because it's not done Right Ah as long as they keep working on it I I like you didn't get ripped off. It's just not finished The the second bullet point is We still might not see single-player campaign next year Oh, yeah, no, that's been every year for I don't know how many year And no man sky and and eve online kind of put the put the lie to it Because they're they're obviously very different games But and there's also like the x series, but like they're doing Most of what star citizen would promise But star citizen promises all things to all people who Be soft meeting like we're currently exploring the cult space Online and seeing how we can get into you know reaching into people's sense of life and salvation And and just getting their bank account hooked right up actually So we have a quote from somebody in the cult. Oh, or rather was part of the cult in here Oh hate fish says as somebody who kicked in a thousand dollars of my student finance money over four Irish ships The current version is not worth what I paid send help Now here's the thing hate fish used Student finance money, which means he has a limited income like a normal person, right? What if he had an unlimited income and went well if I kick in more money It'll go more faster Right Did did your girlfriend have to sleep with the team lead of star citizen Did did you did you have to like the only way to achieve focus? Did you have to put your robes on before you started playing? like what Yeah, no star citizen. It's just an economic cult I I it's just it's just fined doming without getting an erection Yeah, I just because like the thing is I've I've I've already had Moments where I've talked about there's certain games that come out as kickstarter project not kickstarter projects as patreons And like there's certain like there's like fighting games that are like projects that are on patreon for example And I don't like that because there's no incentive from the person making the game to finish it And it feels and I and I experienced that firsthand Like trying to play some of these and going into like do episodes on them and stuff Where I was like, oh, there's a weird thing for like you're in or you're out and like when you get in you're not it's not like Oh, yeah, here you go. Here's the build It's like no no no you're on this list and you go through this curated thing And they got to check to make sure that it clears before you get access to the build or whatever and There's these a couple of projects that have been in development for about seven eight nine years in some cases That are just like yeah, I never intend to finish this me getting this week this monthly payment from you is my income and the project being done means this income stops So why the fuck would I ever you know? So I have a I have a game that I can point at And be like it's in beta and I don't think they're ever going to come out of beta And it's your friend and mine friend of the show, uh, rebecca fords warframe. Hmm Has been in open beta The whole fucking time. Hmm. Do I think that beta tag is gonna come off? Fuck no absolutely not But that's the difference here. Why though? Yeah, because it's you would hop Because it's not done Okay, that's it But does that mean that like ff 14 is not done because it's been updating constantly So you want to get technical is like is is live service anything that is The beta automatically automatically because it's not done. So in ff 14's case You wouldn't call dawn trail beta because dawn trail 7.0 released feature complete And then things that were added were part of the patch Is right whereas warframe's just a big old melange of it's changed. It's coming. This is a new thing So when new things come to warframe, it's still the same base game, but there's just new areas dropped into the base game Oh, no, it's actually way more complicated than that. They've redone A lot I think the reason why warframes labeled as open beta is so that they have the freedom to just to fucking whatever man, okay Just do fucking whatever in this game. That game's crazy if it's just about setting expectations Then it's just like what it kind of is it kind of is okay. I don't like that. I don't I don't like that That's that Well, anyway, um Hey, it's got millions of registered losers and that's what's important. Um, did you mean to say users? I did Thank you Could you imagine going into the game awards and and doing that and just like years and years and years later people on our dipshit podcasts are still like Rebecca, you said the wrong word Beyond this, um, yeah, I think just one or two other bits that popped up Uh, hey, there's a website for fate of the old republic They here's a look at some of the staff that are working on it and hey, guess what? It's it's old by aware devs So, uh, old by aware devs, so they and I don't mean which devs I mean from which from which era by aware so apparently so the kasey Hudson was announced but The website was listing uh People from by aware as far back as 2000 2000 huh that Was a good goddamn year for by aware kotor one mass effect trilogy people All right, I'll take that wait. They got drew back Oh, they got drew back As well as some people from other companies epic remedy coalitions and a max Michael I tell you what I have never I could I have never been able to lay at the feet of one person leaving more Then drew I always script the same drew carpitian. I think carpassian is what you used to say Yeah, I don't know what it is Anyway writer for the mass effect series for one and two leaving before mass effect three came out because you can Fucking feel it Mm-hmm um Was a my what's mike laid law Oh, really was no no no no. I'm just no no no no no no no no no. I'm asking. I'm asking you a question I don't know did he no no. I'm saying he wrote Dragon age dragon age one Okay, and then when what happened was is when dragon age two was coming down the pipe and he saw what the what ea wanted from it He was like, I'm fucking out of here. Okay not putting my name on this. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know Was a good move Was a good move Um, yeah, so that's that's what's going on with uh with this project Seems cool my only issue is um Well, we're not gonna have time for this when the uh, quantic dream star wars game Yeah, well, I mean that's gonna just fucking Who can keep up once that drops? That being said photore Doesn't doesn't hit as well as cotor. Yeah, that's welcome. See comes up. That's so that's my only issue with it Yeah, it makes me think of the fucking the meat area and darkest dungeon to the feeder or the fader. I don't however you f E r I think The the meat zone. Okay. I got the list here Uh I don't recognize a lot of these names, but they are from way back in the day Way back in the day. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good Oh somebody in the chat asking what come see come saw means It's french. It means like this or that like like this a little this a little that little middle Little little middle. Mm-hmm Uh, yeah Is it good? Is it bad or is it come see comes uh Do you like cotor more than mass effect? No Absolutely not Okay, ridiculous question Hmm, I think I do yeah. Yeah, I think I do Um, I like more Well, okay the shit that's stupid in mass effect later bugs me more And Um, you can't take away from me how happy I was to play through mass effect two like 10 times Okay, that's basically where I'm at. Yeah, I'm not there. I'm not there. Um And part of this is a little bit of like I have a pre-installed star wars like Fandom in me that was not there for mass effect. You got to give it time to shape up Yeah, right. Yeah, um, and then like as we all talk about all the time mass effect started big and then it went down And for cotor, uh, I liked it all the way through and the the dumb parts and the problems were happening in the middle And are kind of dis dispersed evenly throughout it You know with the cut content and all the yadda yadda, uh But overall effect is kind of built to have leave you with kind of a A mediocre taste if you play it with the legendary edition right because Because it ends poorly Yeah, it was so my journey through both games. Um It both series is Uh, mass effect was a ride downhill That had some hype that had some cool bumps, you know on the way downhill And I feel like cotor was a just a sick ass Stretch across with some dips, but overall you can't even play all of cotor man. Where's your where's your tour playthrough? Oh Right, right, of course because if you had This would be a highly similar discussion Uh, if we're counting the the the mmo. I see they literally said this is cotor three like over and over and over and over and over And there's your downhill fucking shot, bro Because I also know that like even though there's the part of me that was like, oh, you I walked in as a like already Liking star wars before and so I had an established thing um I liked what I loved what both of those games did to that lore so much more That I like nihilists is like my favorite thing that's ever existed in star wars. Yeah, and and I like and like On its own I love that and I enjoyed that more than what mass effect was doing and So it's like, oh, it's not about the flippy swords or whatever because that's barely a part of the way the game actually plays It's lightsaber the lightsaber fantasy so to speak is not like boy. You got me used that word these days But it's so useful. It's very useful Super useful is the lightsaber fantasy is completely it's almost completely worthless in the cotor games because Yeah, because you don't actually you don't actually You don't feel it at all. It's nowhere near as satisfying or as cool as it feels It's the sound effects and the lights, but it's not the yeah, you know In a world with jedi academy, right or with those newer Fucking yeah, soul's games like nah man get out of here that it's nothing to do with it The characters and the setting and the lore and what's happening with the with everything and it feel way more Um Fun to me and I was left with a better a better impact overall. So yeah, I like cotor more than mass effect. Yeah, I do So there's a reason for that. So you said you had a built-in star wars You know fandom coming into it. Yeah mass effect pulls from Star Trek you know, you know, like Laughably obvious way like it is Facts facts we've ever gotten to a star trek game, right? That's a big deal. I don't give a fuck about star trek That's functionally deep space nine, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah and The reason why starch the reason why? Um mass effect has film grain on it Is to make it look like a sci-fi show from like the 80s and 90s, right? Okay. Okay. Okay Um, I not to say I don't give a fuck about star trek, but I enjoyed what I saw but I'm you don't have you don't I'm not into it I'm not into it. Yeah You should fucking watch star I that's that's that's that's there too, but I have to say though even with that like Even with those hooks It's still a downhill ride compared to a bumpy a bumpy ride across You know, do you want can I get a slightly? Into the reeds on this one in fact, sorry um For the whole For the person that was like you just liked it for the flu. You just like your flippy lightsaber swords big surprise Actually, that's that shallow reading applies to me loving vanguard in mass effect I the coolest thing about my about mass effect two and three to me were the the fucking Sick ass shoulder tackle melee shit you can do so take your whole thing and invert it There was a recent poll on the subreddit. What's your favorite mass effect class and it was like vanguard at like 80 percent Yeah, it completely dominates so that shallow thing about the combat there Is actually one of the high points of what I would remember enjoying during that downhill ride So let me let me um, let me explain to you in star trek terms the mass effect one and two Are incredible games and mass effect three is a pretty good game But all the problems that old the old man's like me that love that series from the beginning have with mass effect Is that it became less and less like star trek? And more and more Like newer star trek Okay, like right trailers for new star trek series or new star trek movies and they're all shooting guns and doing action shit I don't give a fuck about that shit I want pucard to do a fake trial over whether or not data as a robot has rights similarly To the like I want to go into that fucking Room with the volus in the l-core. Yeah, it was the bitch about fucking nonsense bureaucracy Or to be fair to not just that room which we bring up every time talking about the easiest example It is it is and but I'll even give credit to I'll give I'll give I'll give the sequels credit and talk about the Geth autonomy And and how interesting that conversation was and how it was fucking optional content By the way the geth the the geth in in their entirety are like a a Half shade over from discussions about the board right of course of course right and so like Wow, that's one of the coolest star trek ideas that ever happened. This is one of the coolest Mass effect ideas that ever happened and whenever star trek just descends into we have to have a big war It's really fucking boring. There is a really big fucking war in deep space nine like a gigantic massive war And all of the interesting episodes about that are how do we trick the klingons to get involved? Okay, how do we? Peace keep on earth when the enemy can disguise themselves perfectly and anyone could be a spy Do we suspend civil liberty like that? Yeah, yeah, not how many ships can I send towards the reapers, son like who gets a fuck? um alongside the Absolute clown shoes nonsense and yeah all that fucking star child shit black vampires and What oh no wait, that's x-files never mind that's x never mind never mind Uh, no x files has blackulas star trek has irish sex ghosts. There you go um So so I think the most telling thing though in this conversation if we're talking about cotor versus mass effect is What I look inside I go How do I feel about the upcoming mass effect? How do I feel about the upcoming cotor both are returning and I feel very differently about these products It's not fair It's not fair because there's names attached that we know But also that just look I search my feelings and I know it to be true that I I I fucking really really care about this one And I don't give a fuck about this I uh, I feel a different third thing which is Sure, if these games will exist ever That's that's where I'm at Mass Effect 4 I've been talking about mass effect 4 for like my whole streaming career Right, I haven't seen a single fucking piece of concert. What the fuck are you doing? Well, we can only talk about the hypothetical but that may or may not the schrodinger's game that may it may eventually exist, you know but um I will say that Oh Well, yeah, if you can even if you include tor right and you include um, whatever went wrong there You also are including andromeda here And everything and then eventually this movie and everything else that weighs down these averages I'm like does a tor is an mmo with live service and as in us showed me some cooler stuff that happens later, but ultimately Multiple single player narratives weaved together in a multiplayer suite. Can the tor average really drag it down that much further than the entirety of The fucking mass effect one two three andromeda and wherever we go Tor but it is it is a different beast people who went to cotor one and two aren't going to The conclusion of their fucking narrative, right? Whereas it is universally understood that mass effect is a walk down the stairs Uh, well first First you climb a little hill and then you go down on the other side. It's it's Yeah, so I've heard very very strong arguments from myself to me Various points in my life that mass effect one or mass effect two is the best game in that franchise I have never made the argument to myself that mass effect three is the best game Yeah, okay, all right, and I and you know what and I mean even but here's the thing I'm also going to think about like in terms of sequels and delivering on them um And expectations too Like cotor one has a big old crazy twist and you're like holy shit How you gonna one that up would be it would be a massive mistake to attempt to replicate that twist in dozens of games You know and I actually fucking hit credits on two and was like That was great. Yeah, that was great Didn't fucking uh Drop the ball on me at least with Where I set expectations and then how you come back and revisit that but do a different thing entirely You know, I I have uh, I have been sent. Thank you dad. Ask me. You're always a great help. I appreciate you buddy uh a fantastic quote from the writer of Legion and edi uh in mass effect two About the entire writing basis was I didn't want the geth to either be the borg You are so different will absorb and destroy you or data. I am different So I want to be you so the entire process Was I want to do a star trek race, but I can't do this one or that one Thus, thus I must make it a weird third thing Yeah, and I guess talking yeah, no Fuck what's the geth party member again? Legion when you're talking to Legion In that room That's another moment that I think is like it the conversation is playing out in your head Right single thing he tells you is the most interesting thing in that game It's playing it. That's it. It's playing out in your head again. Just like that that that volis room and Like I accept I guess like I'm like like I'm I'll accept tell don't show When it's done well but I just I just remember that being a the whole context of that being a fucking Late in the game extra little piece of dlc in an extra room. That was an optional thing That was like how is this not what this entire thing is about? You know like I I just I felt like the emphasis on that part as interesting as it was was like we should have been heavily focusing on Legion and the geth, you know, I Wanted to go and meet cool new aliens. It wasn't dlc. I'm sorry. What am I misremembering? Was it optional? There's something about it that at the time that's optional. Okay. Okay. Sorry not dlc Uh, what I meant what I meant is I was misremembering. Yeah, it's miss missable, right? You can completely miss the character and play without it was one of the details at the time I just not talked to him something to that effect. Yeah Javik was was dlc and both being Both of those characters being Missable not core content was ridiculous to me is the is the feeling I'm trying to convey. I think I think Javik is the most egregious pre-order slash Extra dlc bonus thing that's ever existed in any game Javik is the most important person in mass effect Full stop ever. Yeah, that's it complete batch it Uh, right It's fucking crazy Uh, I've I've a miniscule piece of 14 news if you want to hear it sure uh, Jason Shrier was chit-chatting about ever cold and uh reminded people that um in the fiscal year 2025 ff 14 was responsible for more than 50 percent of square anix's profits So that conversation last week about about an impassioned demand For more resources, bitch. I own you slightly different tone. Bitch. I own you I made let's say 55 percent of the entire company's money this year. Wow Wow Give some to me And it's not It's not an ffr year But yeah, no, it's not a tentpole like father release year Mm-hmm fucking whatever that just means that if it was 2024 or 2023 it would have been 30 40 percent drop drop drop that down a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's It's the backbone. It's what allow it's that uh, it's what allows them to go make the 824 movies Yeah, you can make a demand at that point I think all right Um, oh, yeah, they announced the new multi-blood twi lumina and Sure that it's cool to see that that franchise is still going. I'm curious to see how people Talk about the shielding mechanics in it, which were Ultimately something that I think got fixed But at the end of the day there was a there was a button that was essentially like Forcing rock-paper-scissors into the game that people didn't like and I feel like Over the years people are getting a really tired of the injustice has rock-paper-scissors mechanics Soul caliber had these rock-paper-scissors mechanics and they're kind of like over that I feel like there's a demand to leave car crash neutral as they called it in Yesterday and kind of just go back to pressing buttons and fighting games and keeping it simple So we'll see what happens Uh All right, let's take some letters Hey, if you want to send in a letter send it to uh, castle super beast mail gmail.com That's castle super beast mail gmail.com. By the way, uh extra plug uh page now has a schedule For twitch.tv slash peach saliva and has been digging away at chrono trigger So go ahead and check that out. We have figured out a morning schedule slash routine that will allow page to get back into the fucking trenches Pretty sick to be playing the goat Do you know do you know how this happened the chrono trigger thing specifically? Did we were talking about did she wake up one morning and decide I want to play the goat? No, we were talking about final fantasy 6 as we do as a married couple the married couples That's what they talk about they talk about final fantasy 6 and I was like, uh, I think I think chrono trigger might be better and she's like, oh no And she mentioned, you know frog and robo and I was like, well, you know, what about this part and she's like I don't remember that part And you know, my wife does not have the best memory. So she's like, oh, maybe I just forgot a bunch of it and over the course of that conversation we discovered She had never played chrono trigger Because of the crazy amount of osmosis information But had never actually Put pause to controller ever Okay, so she discovered That her favorite genre from her favorite company in her favorite era Just has a game. She completely fucking missed and here it is So That's kind of nuts, but I understand There are things where I don't have that with games But I feel like I have that with movies Sometimes where I'm like, like did I see that? Yes, right? There are things that are so crucial to our cultural or our culture that I feel like I've seen it But I'm not a hundred percent on it and I feel that way with the entire back to the future series I'm like, that's a really good example. I'm pretty fucking sure I've seen all three of those back to front But you're not on a percent sure, but I kind of think I've seen it in tv Random saturday night, you know things broke with commercials between them broken up You know, it was also extra confusing for her and this I really do understand because she did Play through chrono cross. Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay whole thing's just a big old melange I mean, I'm thinking of like every time I think of a scene in back to the future I'm seeing it fading in from an out of a commercial break You know, so woolly, you know what you need to also like stopgap it and like are you actually watching? a mentally conjured live action rick and morty bit instead man Yeah, so I understand this feeling that she's that she's experiencing. Well, that's great I will say having beaten ff6 for the first time Maybe two years ago After hearing as you know, how close this this comparison was and everyone some people put one over the end and all that I'm like, I'm chrono trigger for life, but fuck me if it isn't closer than I thought it was they they are It's super close Where they are they are strong in areas the other is weak Like six's scope is just so grand and the amount of characters is so large That is a huge fucking cast to playable characters. It's enormous But are any of them robo and frog? Yeah It's tough man You can't you can't and and there's things that just put it over the edge for me. It which is like time Right the time fuckery is just fun and unique and novel the multiple ending angle of that as well The causality of things being worked into the gameplay and bro I'm sorry double text and triple text get the fuck out of here. You can't touch you can't touch it You just can't touch it time Lavos not the most charismatic villain. No But world revolution the most charismatic battle theme ever, but then also Dancing man Have you ever played radiant historia? No Oh, it's really fucking good. Okay It's it's really fucking good. Okay And the music's by yoko shimomura Okay, so it's real good um I mean like there Are times in my life when there's elevator music in my brain And world revolution is part of that playlist I just don't know what anyway, um, so that's that's good shit. All right letters Letters if you want to send in a letter Send a letter in via the electronic mail to castle super beasts at gmail.com. That's not that's not correct To castle super beast mail at gmail.com. There we go. We got one. We got time for one um Devastating the thing you were holding off on getting into is now accessible. Oh this idea. Okay, dear patent woolly Yeah from low resolution zombie one piece famously is very long I adore one piece but when friends tell me they don't want to catch up to the show that's been airing since before they were born I can't really blame them. It's a time investment You'll be it can only be called absurd close to 400 hours Today, which studio shared a pretty astonishing news about their adaptation of the east blue super arc though In short, it'll be condensing around 50 episodes of the original anime into the equivalent of 13 to 14 Um, depending on how good it is or how far they get we could be looking at a future We're catching up to wano takes less than half as long as it does now Totally and they saved all that time by not spending the time coloring in usopp's skin Oh Man Really? Did you not see that shit today? No, I don't know. I don't follow the one Oh They hit it. They hit the casca Yeah, dude. They hit it with the casca Oh, dude. He's the same skin tone as the whole rest of the fucking game Oh man God damn some people just don't want it Some people just don't want it He's a black man in the live action. Who are you kidding? Some people are just afraid of black viltramites, man I just needed I just needed a hint of a face that says I know what you're talking about Oh It's it's bursting out of it Oh, yeah Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. I remember when they did that to casca. That was crazy Let me let me see if I can get the Search for one piece and it'll come up get you Yeah, is that Just gotta get rid of those those fucking threatening shades, huh? Oh, it's it's threatening man. God damn it, man Um, I'm not gonna give you a fuck okay. Well, look, there's no way this email is not a sales pitch for one piece though Rather it reminds me that the awkward feeling of dread I got when the adaptation on port Uh, I've been wanting finally arrives and I have to actually put up and engage with the thing I've been a mother three picketer for some time now But the lack of an official port for mother three is also valuable to me as an excuse to not secunders of hours into another RPG franchise a small evil part of me kind of hopes we never get one Are there it? Oh, that's fucking ridiculous. Uh, are there any ports remasters adaptations? You've been secretly dreading bonus points if you've been vocal about wanting them in the past That's hilarious Oh man I would love an ace combat fucking collection We So ace combat collection comes out. I'm gonna fucking do all of them in a week. Fuck you Count that as a promise I mean silk song did eventually drop and then everybody Uh had to actually play it Um, what's the quote? Um Fan of thing can't wait to play it for the first time. I think Something to that Whatever that counts for a lot of things Yeah, so, uh I mean look, I will say this like, you know, mother three is fucking worth that journey if you do it But at the end of the day, I I I get the sentiment of the like Uh-oh the thing I love is accessible. Thank you Who sent this in thank you shishi for sending in the reference sheet for the one piece Let's get a live woolly reaction on this and it's that's not a lighting thing. Is it? Oh my god It's not a lighting thing Wow, they hate it They hate us so much Why do they fucking hate us bro? Why do they hate us so much? That's crazy That's super whitewash bro. Why? Well, like what? It's he's whitewash so much. He looks bad now, right like it's So Damn should I shave all of this to just leave a mustache should I just should I just have a mustache? And just walk through the streets Oh boy, okay. Hey, how did you like the re trailer? So I I have been warned. I'm not allowed to watch weapons Um by many many many people that I will possibly die if I watch the movie weapons by zack kreger because of a syringe thing Yes, you can also like look away from the screen during that. I'm not I'm not a pussy Well, then you can't then you watch it. I'm gonna be I'm not gonna be the kind of pussy who closes my eyes I'm gonna be the kind of pussy who says I didn't even want to watch that movie But you did get over silen hill remake silo hill true. Well, I I I powered through it with true repetition, right? But I I know zack kreger from his uh Shit on whitest kids, you know very strange to see him go into horror another comedy person Straight into horror, right? I guess there's a similarity there. So zack kreger is a big fan of resident evil Uh, he was like I already forced my favorite. I definitely I if you look in the trailer, uh, you I I forced the the guys to model the re4 herb Perfectly and that he's like it is this game this movie is absolutely canon It takes place alongside leon showing up at the police station um There's a bunch of weird fucking shit in that trailer Like a bunch of weird ass shit in that trailer like a gigantic big fat guy and a monster made out of multiple bodies and all sorts of shit um him saying it's canon is nonsense uh, it's fucking snowing And uh, the guy's bundled up like it's alaska. It's fucking stupid whatever shut up. I don't care It looks like it'll be a cool movie. Okay. I'm wondering if you could I was like Are you able to peg exactly where he is and what is happening just based on that? No, no, it's fucking nonsense Okay, September third. It's September 29th. Okay, and he's acting like it's 15 below. It's it's completely It's dog shit. It's it's so stupid scope-wise It seems like they're going for the thing I talked about though the dread the small scale Story in the middle of the big event It's it's literally it's it's a guy going. Um, I it's a ups driver a fedex driver just in the middle of raccoon city. Yeah, yeah caught in the shit. Yeah So yeah in terms of like where does this fit in the resident evil it fucking doesn't uh in terms of like a film that looks like a cool ass horror movie that is reminiscent and has elements of resident evil in it Oh, yeah, it looks really cool. There's a lot of really cool imagery and shots in that thing Would you be as as the resident resident evil complete psycho? Yeah, everyone's way too fucking hung up on what is it fucking can it gives a shit? Would you be Fuck would you be satisfied with a cool single survivor like story? Uh or not where? The camera from the distance you see cool guy doing cool shit over there and cool girl doing cool shit But you don't actually get to figure out what's happening. I don't think that would be appropriate Let it be self-contained. I think it's this dude's narrative And so like when I when I think about when I think okay, all right, you've act you've activated. All right So the resident evil film franchise history who has been directed by Paul w.s. Anderson Not the good paul anderson the other one who has Shloppa fight it and in particular like he's stolen a lot of scenes from the games and directed them more poorly than capcom's internal staff Paul jovavitch like he watched the fights with wesker in the game. They're much more competently and dynamically directed than his own Direction in the films. They're just they're just schlock, but apparently they did very well so good for him, right? the original treatment by Romero which of course would be the guy to get Was apparently a pretty good flick, but it had one problem and this is a problem. I agree with capcom. It was all zombies Resident evil one has zombies hunters dogs pale heads chimeras Neptune Uh plant 42 and the tyrant, right? Like they wanted it to have more monsters So they ended up going to paul w.s. Anderson Who only put in a liquor also? And then in this next one it was the nemesis and so on and and so forth, right? um In that vein a much more serious Like competently shot horror movie by a pretty good horror movie director That also happens to have a bunch of weird monsters in it is what I want Like part of the resident evil like like like appeal from like a visual perspective is zombie thing but also weird fucking monster everything from giant snake to 20 foot tall sorry 10 foot tall guy in a trench coat if to liquor to Hunter if it is spider if it is just a good Zombie movie, but that's all there is to it. Then it's not a resident evil movie Yeah, no you need you need weird bullshit in there Okay, well anyway. Yeah. No the weapons did extremely well. You liked it, but you didn't like it as much um If I remember correctly there's there's I have some issues with it, but I like but I liked Most of what was going on. Um, yeah, no. Yeah, I'll watch it anytime Definitely I'm definitely a lot more interested in it than I have been over the last 10 resident evil fucking movies And this anytime someone takes the self-awareness to go. Yeah, I'm gonna make a small scope story to not fuck up The telling of this whole thing. I just that doesn't matter resident evil canon so fucking stupid and shit. Okay Well, I I still prefer that form of storytelling in a lot of ways like it's it's like it's the I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like whatever people have thought wise fan base wise established, etc I'm not here to intrude and fuck any of that up. I just want to tell a cool story that takes places in this setting That I I always like that approach somebody who just spent like 60 hours on re9 and I would say that shit up top 10 people of like knows this nonsense Like there's me. There's cvx freak. There's susie. There's rune b There's a couple other people that I'm sure I don't know um If this fucking story so fucking stupid It is it is Dumb But it's also it's but it's that devil may cry thing right where you're like this story is terrible But over time you grow to admire and kind of enjoy the charm of oh, I love it I know and so you and then you and they're going like Oh, I don't know that this happened and you and you don't quite think about how this dumb story Like could be you don't think it can be shit on a ruined until dino comes along And then you go oh fuck Actually, this bothers me Resident evil has become astonishingly resilient from a narrative perspective because jokes on everybody These are character stories. They have nothing to do with their overall plot. Okay This is about how much you like leon and claire and jill and chris and rebecca and billy and the rest It has nothing to do with fucking the t virus again again Right Also, it's about how wesker and giddy and and alexia are fucking charismatic psycho evil villains And you love to watch them eat the scenery. Also, they've done those cg movies that are just Full on lore dump Like canon things those things are shit. They exist. Let me tell you. Let me tell you the resident evil damn nation shit except the part Where leon fights a big super mr. X with a tank at the end That part fucking rules. I don't know man. I'm partial to fucking gunfoo gun kata Equilibrium style gun battles where no one gets shot Running in circles All right, I gotta go. Bye. Bye. Take care You You You