2843: The Newbie Gains Hack That Works After Years of Training

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That's it, enjoy the rest of the show. Newbie Gaines. This is the term used to describe the rapid increase in strength that people experience when they first start strength training. Now this eventually slows down and now your experience has been working out for a little while. Can you tap back into those newbie gains? Can you get rapid strength gains like you did in the beginning? Kind of, there is a hack. We're gonna talk about it right now. Newbie Gaines hack for those of you who've been doing it for a little while. Let's go. Yeah, so I'll just put it out there. Do an exercise you normally don't do and practice it and get good at it and those initial strength gains are very similar to what you experienced in the very beginning. Learn a new skill. That's it. It's this beautiful thing. I think the hardest part about that is the accepting that you're gonna be not good at it again. One of the things that happens, I think to all of us- Humbling. I think we're all guilty of falling into the rhythm of doing the same similar type of workouts. Even if you're good about puritizing and changing up some of the exercises and rep ranges and all the things that we talk about, we still are all probably pretty guilty of kind of hovering around our favorite way of training. Generally speaking, one of the best ways to get all them newbie gains is to do something completely different than what you currently do. And you could do that simply by just choosing one exercise that's different and that's like less radical. I think that's one of my favorite ways to do it because let's explain newbie gains real quick because first of all, it's exciting, but sometimes it sets people up for failure later because they're like, what's going on? Why am I not adding five or 10 pounds to the bar every single week? When you first start strength training, so long as you can move well, right? Because sometimes you have to start out and work really hard on correctional exercises and stuff first, but let's say you could do basic exercises and you start working out and you're eating right. Yeah, you're healthy. You're adding weight to the bar every week. Like every single week, you're adding reps or weight to the bar and this lasts for like a little while. This goes on for like a few months, oftentimes. Sometimes a little longer where you're just making gains over gains and this is called newbie gains and then it slows down very quickly and then it becomes more of a consistent, like it's a harder process, right? What's happening in those early stages of strength training, the reason why you're seeing such rapid increases in strength is a lot of it has to do with central nervous system adaptation. So although larger muscle fibers contract harder, your central nervous system plays a huge role in how much weight you can move and lift. This is essentially, this is the power system that tells the muscles what to do, that charges the muscles, like an amplifier to the speakers, whereas your muscles are the speakers, the central nervous system is the amplifier. And as that strengthens, your current muscles suddenly can lift more and they can lift more because they're more organized, they can fire harder, you know, more stable. And these strength gains are really rapid in the beginning. I'm training my buddy right now and it's funny because, you know, as long as you don't overdo it, right? If you train properly, you'll see this in the beginning and he's like tripping out because we'll do the same exercise we did the week before and it's like five more reps. He's like, what's going on? I'm like this. It's addictive too in the beginning. It's so helpful to have that body really just like responds to this new stimulus and it gives you that confidence boost. And totally. But yeah, inevitably, you know, that kind of runs up and you have to, you know, stay ahead of that. Just like anything else, like we're gonna run into plateaus and this is one of those things that's exciting, but we also have to think how we're gonna stay ahead of it. I remember the first time I hacked into this as an experienced lifter. So after a while, new beginnings go away, it doesn't just keep happening. And I was doing the traditional lifts and you know, I was doing pretty well. And then I started doing front squats. So front loaded squats, right? Never did them really consistently before. They were hard. I sucked at them. I could do like a fraction of the weight I could do with a back squat. And I just got convinced that they're really effective. I knew Olympic lifters did them, you know, old school bodybuilders in the 70s did them all the time. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna start doing front squats. And so I started practicing front squats. And after a couple of weeks of kind of getting used to it, I was adding weight every week. It was like every week I was hitting a new weight that I could lift. And I was like, oh, it's because I'm learning the skill of this exercise. And then I use that throughout my lifting career, where I would pick an exercise that I haven't done or haven't done in a while. And it's okay for the next three months, I'm gonna get good at this lift. And you see crazy gains. You guys all remember those? Was that the first like, like a ha moment for you was about to lift? Yes, I think it was front squats. Mine was incline barbell press. Oh, because you were always flat benching. Yes. And I remember, and I would intermittently do incline, but never consistently because it was embarrassing. I mean, I was, because I could work out with two plates on flat bench all the time consistently. And then to go to an incline and have to drop it all the way down to like 135 was just like, no. You know what I'm saying? Especially because we were. Well, yeah, it took me so long to see two wheels. You know what I'm saying? That was like a long time of benching for me was to get to two plates. And that was such an accomplishment. And that took me to get there. That going over to incline and having to see myself go all the way back down to one plate was just no. Like it's so. Especially because nobody bragged about an incline back then. No. It was like, how much in your bag? Yes. Yeah. And so of course you're gonna talk about the way you can bench so much more on. And so I remember when I made it a goal, like, you know what, I'm gonna focus on that. And the gains that I got from that. And essentially it was just prioritizing it and making that big lift. Yeah, it was just, yeah. I just said, hey, I'm no longer gonna flat bench. And I'm gonna do it until it catches up to my flat bench. And it eventually did. And the aesthetic gains, the strength gains. What was great was I was still just as strong on flat. I didn't lose my flat bench strength. That stayed, that remained the same. And I caught up the incline bench and I saw all this gains aesthetically from, and I was like forever sold. Like, oh my God, it's just, you just had to get over that mental hurdle of, I mean, another example, and I think you've brought this up when you first started doing like windmills. Like, you know, how humbling that is, just doing. Super humbling. Yeah, holding a little five pound kettlebell or something the very first time you do that, you know? You know, we recently have done, on the Instagram social media team, did a thing that we all did. I don't know if you, how much you guys looked at all of ours. Mine hasn't gone up yet. Or it will probably by the time this airs. But it was the March madness of the exercises. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all really, really similar. But there was a few things that were different. And one of the things that mine was different than both of yours, I actually put the, I put the Turkish get up higher. It didn't make it all the way to the end, but it made it further than what it made for both of you guys. And my thought process. Functional reasons. Yeah, and also that nobody gets good at that. Like nobody goes, I'm gonna get really strong at that. It's always novel. And I'll tell you something right now, both men and women can get pretty strong on that because it involves the. You did it for a second. Yeah, I did it for a second. It was a minute there. Oh man. And you get huge benefits because it incorporates the entire body and requires so much core stability, so much lower body strength, so much shoulder stability and strength. And the, the carry over the gains you get from that, I think a lot of things is so big. And it's just, I feel like it gets shit on. That's an exercise. It's funny. Yeah, we're talking about this because that became kind of a bit of a chase for me. This whole newbie gains thing, because I went in the unconventional world. I was always looking for a different tool that was out there that was gonna provide. Cause what started it really was the kettlebell itself. Like I, I was doing conventional lifts forever. And I was like working with the football team and just working on PR numbers and all these things to put up on the board. And then I worked out with a guy and he took this, this one kettlebell is gold. It was like 115 pounds or something. And he just puts it up like right over his head. Like it was nothing. And I was just as strong as the guy with all the conventional lifts and I pick it up like, oh, and it basically like fell. And I was so pissed off. I was like, why, I was like, why is that so easy for him? And then I just incrementally like just chipped away at it, chipped away at it. And then within like, you know, a couple months I was putting that up and it was just like, it was wild. But it just, it just kept proving itself to me time after time when I would pick a new direction, like I'd take the mace bell and I'd start working on that. And then you'd see these rapid gains again. Now, I remember, you know what, it's funny. I just remember as we're talking, I'm like, was it the front squat? It was the reverse curl was the first time. It was a reverse curl. It was a reverse curl. And it was because I read a bodybuilding article that in order to get a thicker bicep, and this, this is the way they explain it. It's not quite what happens, but they're like, you need to train the brachialis, right? You get the bicep on top, brachialis is this flat muscle underneath. And if you develop that, then you'll get like this thicker looking arm. I'm like, well, I'm standing straight in my T-shirt. Like I'd have to have some thick bicep. I was a kid. I was like 16 years old, thicker looking. And I, and it said, do hammer curls and reverse curls. And so I went out in the, in the backyard and I grabbed my easy curl bar and I had it already set up for when I did curls. It was all, I was always set up that way. And I went to reverse curl it. And it was like my wrists were just, they folded. And I was like, I can't do this. So I went lighter, I started practicing it. And it did develop my arms, but it wasn't necessarily the magic of the exercise, although that's part of it. The big part of it was, it was this novel move. It was curling with a pronated grip. And I became, I fell, listen now to this day, you guys hear me talk about the reverse curl. That's where it started. Was I picked up this exercise and it's great. This is, there's so many movements out there that people avoid or don't do that are established lifts. Like, like here's another one. For a long time, for a long time in the 90s, behind the neck presses for shoulders were very popular. They fell way out of favor because of the risk factor. And it does this. Certification started to like shock people away. And here's the deal. You definitely need more mobility and stability and control to do it behind the neck than you do in front. Okay. So you definitely want to develop that first. But once you get there, if you always press to the front and you start practicing behind the back and you get good at that, watch the strength gains go through the roof initially. Cause you'll start with just the bar at first cause you can't even get it there. Next thing you know, you're adding 10 pounds every single week. And then you see that on your body from an aesthetic perspective. There's also all the Zercher exercises. All the Zercher deadlifts and squats, which now I'm starting to see people do a little bit. In fact, they're starting to come out with Zercher pads. E-press is another great thing. You will suck at that when you first start that. Dude, totally. And so it's like, you know, here's another one. That's really good. I remember we saw our friend, what's his name? Powerlifter. He, yes. I mean, this guy could squat 700 pounds. Super competitive powerlifter, never did split stance exercises like lunges because he's a powerlifter. So he competes bilaterally. And you could see him with like 185 on the bar and it was hard for him. And it's not because he's not strong enough. I mean, he is not strong enough, but it's not cause his muscles aren't strong enough. He just doesn't, his central nervous system isn't adapted to it. So he started practicing and you better believe that contributed to his bilateral squat and his leg development. And so for everybody listening right now, you may have a body part or an area you wanna develop. Lookup exercises, especially old school ones that you maybe never do or you do occasionally. And then what you can say to yourself is, I'm gonna make that one of the primary lifts for that body part for the next three months. This is for experienced lifters. Watch what happens to your problem. You know, the problem with sending people to go look that up is typically what you'll do is you'll look up the best movements for that exercise and it'll come in the articles and the stuff that you hear on social media will be, what does the research say is the best exercise and that they're probably doing those. It's the ones that you're probably not doing. That's right. It has to be one you're not doing. And you have to understand that this is, I mean, this is an argument that we always make, I feel it, and we always get pushed back about this when we're ranking stuff. It's like, if you've been doing this, this same movement, say like a bench press forever. Yes, we know that bench press is like the overall best exercise for your chest. But if you've been doing barbell bench press forever, then exercises that would be considered inferior to that become better, superior because it's novel. And so even though that's the best to get you going, but you've been doing that for two years consistently, like three days a week, it's like, you've gotten so good at that, you've reached almost a max benefits from it. Simply going to something you totally suck at, even though it's an inferior exercise in a standalone study, it becomes a superior exercise because it's so novel to you. And so don't just look up the most popular three exercises. EMG or something like that. Yeah, it's like, just do a movement. What you gotta do is our old time strength program. Right. Oh gosh, there's something there. I mean, we haven't talked about it in a long time, but like it only because of what you guys are talking about describing, there's like a progressive way to achieve that lift at a high level. Like there's a way to learn it, like acquire the skill of it, get good at it. And then you could bring that into the arsenal when you get back to your regular programming. You know what, it's even true though, for exercises that aren't so different. I know that you could be, this was me. Well, you just, I mean, the front squat's an example. But even more similar, like you could be so good at a flat bench frame with a barbell and never do dumbbells and go grab a pair of dumbbells or pressing and you're way weaker. Now, typically you'll dumbbell press less than you, total weight than you can with a barbell, but it's within range, it's somewhat close. But if you never dumbbell chest press and all you ever do is barbell bench press, then you go try using dumbbells. Suddenly you're like, oh my God, I can bench press 300 pounds, but I can't go heavy than 75 pound dumbbells. It's such a similar exercise too. Go with the dumbbells, get good at it, watch what happens to your chest development, your strength, your shoulder development, just because it's a reduction. And really make it a focus because a mistake that I think I used to make too. Oh, you just throw it in and out? Yes, throw it in and out or it's the third exercise of the day. No, it's your focus. Yeah, it needs to become the focus. Like in order for my incline to show me the results that I saw from it, it became the priority. Like so that's the tough part is, because then people are like, well, wait a second, everyone says that this is the best exercise. So, okay, I'll add that other one in that you're talking about, but it's like the third one or the fourth one in the workout. By the time you're already taxed, you know what I'm saying? So allow it to be the priority and really get good at it and really get strong at it. And that's where you'll really reap the max benefits from it. It's not this like sprinkling in every, which is the mistake I made. I would sprinkle it in. Oh yeah, I'd do that thing. But not give your CMS an opportunity. My example of that too, even the was not that long ago, was just when we all first got together, that was squatting and deadlifting for me. It was sprinkled into my routine. It was never a focal point. I never cared to be, you know, brag about my squat numbers or my deadlift. I was Mr. hypertrophy guy. That's all I cared about is what I looked like. And so I never cared to make that a priority. It wasn't until we got together and I was like, okay, I'm gonna make this a priority and try and get really strong at my squat and my deadlift. Well, lo and behold, you know, followed the best aesthetic physique I ever had afterwards. And so- I remember that too. You were adding like 10, 15 pounds a week to your deadlift. Every single week. Both deadlift ends quite a while. For months. It was like three months that this happened and your body- And you're talking about, you know, 15 years into my lifting. That's what I'm saying. That's the thing it's like for experienced lifters, like this is such a awesome hack. Now, what you don't wanna do necessarily is pick 15 different exercise. I mean, you could do that if you want to, but I'll just do one. Just do one for an area you wanna focus on or maybe a lifting pattern that you wanna focus on and be like, I always back squat. I'm just gonna front squat now. Or I always conventional deadlift. Now I'm gonna do sumo deadlift. Or, you know, I always overhead press with the, you know, to the front, let me go to the back. Or I always barbell it means you're done. Pick that one exercise and be like, for the next three months, this is the first exercise I do in the workout for that body part. And my goal is to get stronger. And you'll see consistent gains for probably two to three months while you do that. And it's, and your body will look like you're making strength. And then it'll carry over to your regular lifts. Totally. I mean, that same hack on the point of like, a body part, I remember this was my big shoulder unlock. This was low. I mean, I never had made shoulders a priority. It was like, but I wanted better shoulders, but I never prioritized them above chest and back and all these other big muscles. It was like, until like, I decided like, okay, this can be a focal point. Became the first exercise. And the first thing I would do in the week, it was just like, I'm shoulders. It's gonna be in the main focus. And huge, huge difference. Crazy difference. Yeah. But it takes that, there's, you know, and I remember how I felt. So I think that's the point I'm trying to communicate is, I know the fear of letting go of something else or the fear of making something else, putting it on the back burner. Yeah, because you think you're gonna lose gains? Yes. Yeah, you're fearful of, yeah, but I also don't want to lose my chest just to go get my, get better shoulders. It's like, you're not, you're not gonna, you're not gonna lose that by prioritizing that. You've already gotten really, you've already reached, for most people, have reached that, you know, that we're talking to has reached a lot in that, in this category. It's like putting your bench press now in the back burner to go after something else, you're not gonna all of a sudden lose 50 pounds of strength in your bench press. All right, I looked up studies on red light therapy and acne and I'd never looked, I knew that it had a beneficial effect on acne. It has a beneficial effect on skin across the board, right? Red light therapy, people are familiar with red light therapy. We have studies that go by back decades. It's very well studied for lots of different reasons, but for skin in particular. Like if you want healthier, actually looking skin, stronger collagen, less wrinkles, like healing scars, all that stuff, like red light therapy is remarkably effective. But, and I knew that it had a positive effect on acne, but I don't know what, just how much. I looked up the studies, 45% reduction in acne when people were using red light therapy. And this was after four weeks. That's crazy. This is good news because acne, people who struggle with acne, this can be a big pain in the butt for a lot of people. And most of the treatments are antibiotic based or harsh on the skin. Which being on antibiotics for that long, it's rough. Really rough, really harsh. Red light therapy is just, this is a wavelength of light that supercharges mitochondria in the skin or whatever it touches. So you can shine it on different parts of the body too. But a 45% decrease. I actually think this is why brands like Jew have exploded and red light therapy has become so popular in the last decade is because of all the benefits, because there's lots of benefits to red light therapy. The thing that I think you see relatively quick, like instantly within doing a few sessions of it, is if you, your skin. I mean, I've always communicated as like, I almost feel like I've tanned or I have this glow. That you know, and you'll, if you've never tried it. Yeah, if you've never tried it. I need to tell a difference in the week. You do three sessions of 20 minute sessions in a week. You'll see a difference. Yeah. And so I, and you know how that works in our space is that, you know, if people can't feel it, you know, it's like you really are, see it. It's just tough to convince them how much it's working. And you know, I know it's, it's so, like all the studies on recovery and some of that is incredible. That's hard to measure that. It's just like, well, is that because I could sleep or protein, it's just like, it's very obvious. It's like, I don't do this. I also start doing this on my face. I see a diff, a noticeable difference within the first week of me doing it. Like, okay, I'm sold. It's doing something. I'm just thinking too for parents with teenagers, cause this can be rough for teenagers. Some kids just go through a stage of acne. And it's like, what do you do with your kid? Do you put them on these really harsh medications? Do you, you can get a red light panel. You know, Juve is the company we work with. You get them a red light panel, have them use it, you know, three days a week, 20 minutes. And it's not chemicals, it's nothing. It's if it's good for the skin and it'll cause a, it'll show a reduction in acne. Just put it on. I know it's funny cause like my oldest is really concerned about like boosting his testosterone for everything. Really? Yeah. I know. I was like, why? I think it's just cause of social media. You know, it's just being like thrown out there everywhere. And so it's like, yeah. So I'm having a lot of conversations with him about that. We talked about red light a bit as well. You know, and so he's starting to use that. He's starting to use supplements and creatine. And he's really kind of like starting to try to grab on. He's Jack, dude. For his age, he's got to be one of the most Jack kids in school. He's, he's definitely. Both your kids are gonna be that way. You can see they got good genes, dude. And I mean, they're gymnastics. Exactly. They have such a great foundation with that. Totally. Did you, did you see, I'm surprised you didn't bring this up and you might have seen this or just, did you see the chimp civil war that's happening? What? Chimp civil war. Doug, what? Put chimp civil war and pull up news articles. So are we just going to go through all of the science fiction genres and just start throwing it out there? Like everything's going crazy. Yeah. Minority report. Sure, we got you. You know, no, no, no. So, no, I want this up, this, this report, this, a news article up. Planned to the eighth. So we could see, yes, try to cast it up there, Doug. So we could see what's going on. This is the largest civil war. They're so vicious too. Have you ever, like they rip faces off, they eat. So it started out. Enemy chimps. It started out, so it's the largest civil war that we've observed in, I think in decades with chimp populations. Where is it at? Is this in the wild? There's obviously in the wild. In the wild. This is in the wild. And it started by like there's rival chimp sides. And I guess they killed like one or two of the males. Is this somewhere like the Congo or something like that? Yeah, let me pull it up. I'm having a hard time casting here. No problem. But Uganda. So I guess like one faction killed a couple of the males on this side, so then this side retaliated. And then it spiraled and then one of them killed some of the kids of the other one. And it just turned into like- Spiraled. Oh yeah, dude. And it's like raids. They're just raiding each other back and forth. How many total, like how many chimps are involved, does it say? Well, yeah, 200 chimps total, it sounds like. Yeah, just like big old, they're calling it a civil war. But one faction of chimpanzees killed seven adult males and 17 infants of a rival group. What? Oh no. It's like all the spikes. And then 14 more adult males vanished, bodies never recovered. Yeah. What? Yeah, so you can see videos of them doing these raids. Well, like a bunch of them will show up and just like- And we're observing when this happens. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. That's kind of easy, dude. I know, what's going on? What are they fighting? Well, what you wonder is that has it always kind of gone on and then they just, we just happened to be- We've seen civil wars before. So that's why I could- Well, I know that like, so I've watched- Territorial. Yeah, as I say, like I know they're like super territorial. Even with like a where on the tree. Like they could like, certain, there's like- In certain places you can't- There's a high, yeah, there's a hierarchy of like where you are hanging out in the tree and stuff like that of like who's who. Apparently it says over there it happens once every 500 years. Oh, what? No, this is like, go back, go back, there was an article. Maybe it's like their equivalent of like- This is their apocalypse. This is their world war. Yeah. And we know that because we have what for like- I mean, it's, I guess what? I guess maybe explorers- Recorded. Talk about it. Some observer. So rare it only happens every 500, yeah, click on that. How do they know what happened 500 years ago? Yeah. Cause like- Shut up Adam. I don't- They use carbon dating. Yeah, stop it. I'm like, they have like carbon- Stone from 500 and then 1000 and then 1500 years. Cause I mean, if, I mean- If some banana remains. Oh my God. What does it say there? We just throw shit out there and people are just like, yeah, yeah. Well, scientists say it happens every 500 years. That must be true. Scientists say it a lot of shit. Because all I know is what Jane Goodall, but she was like, guerrillas, right? Yes. Yeah, I don't think she was with champs, but I mean, there was- There's definitely people observing the champs, but like to go back 500 years, who knows? Yeah, I know. Apparently, it's just rare, I guess. Let's just say that. You know it's rare. I don't know if I- Do you guys remember that woman? Dang. It was like 20 years ago. Do you guys remember the story of that woman that owned a chimp pet? Yeah. She taught her to speak? No. No, no, she- She let it sleep in bed with her. It was like her pet. Oh, yeah. Friendage, like an almost- It attacked her, right? Oh, ripped her face off. It literally ripped her face off. She gave it wine and Xanax. Oh yeah, yeah, I gave it- Yeah. That's a great idea. Like it's her girlfriend or something. You were watching some soap opera together. He's just like, Rrrrrr! He ripped her face off. Was that really what- She gave it and that was a reaction? Yeah, maybe- Total opposite of what she thought would happen? Yeah, he took that out of calm. Oh, 2009. 2009. Yeah, his owner initially admitted to giving him the anti-anxiety medication in tea to calm him. Hahaha. They're all wearing like cucumbers and face masks, you know? You take your sanny! And it just blew up in her face. Peace! Oh my God. Yeah, dude, it ripped her face off. Yeah. You know how strong they are? Dude. Yeah, real strong. Bro, there's so- What's the ratio? Oh no, that's the picture of the chimp. But you know what? That fact that you brought up the other day about hippos and their muscle mass, that surprised me actually. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, we- We give a chimp wine and drugs. It's probably not good. I kind of feel like that's- You're asking for it. Yeah, you're definitely opening up a- Something crazy is about to happen. Is that her afterwards right there? Yeah. So she- She lived. She lived, but she had to have a facial reconstruction. Oh, it messed her up badly. Oh, it ripped off her arms too. Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. Oh my goodness. Poor lady. Yeah, not good. Now, not to make this weird. Yikes. No, because now it's all sad. Poor lady. That's horrible. All right, but not to make this weird, but just speculating. At this point, it ripped her face off and everything because he gave her one. It's probably not the first time she gave the chimp wine and stuff. No, apparently it would drink from long stemmed glasses and everything. Do you think there was other stuff going on? Like, do you think- There was a little bit of a relationship. You know what I mean? So you know that the Tiger King had like a follow-up and they like documented like people that took in like chimps and apes and all that kind of stuff. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't last very long. It just creeped me out like too much. Where is he at? Where is the Tiger King? He's still in prison. Is he? Yeah, he's talking trash. It's really funny, actually. Like, he's- What are you talking about? That was one of the anomaly that is. I love that. Like, that was like that. I love Tiger King. That was like a huge thing in COVID that got away. Yeah. It was just the perfect timing. There was nothing on TV at all to watch. That was like the only, you know, trash TV. There's a lot of things during COVID that I think we forgot on purpose. I think our brains made us forget like some of the wildest. Tiger King carried us all through that. That was a very popular show back then. Arguably maybe the most popular. Yeah. Yeah. He's a- Carol Baskin, dude. He's not- dude, you remember everything about that. Yeah. He's not doing good. He's battling prostate and lung cancer. Ooh. He had a 20-year sentence. Joe Exile. Remember, he had a boyfriend, but he's like, I'm not gay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's the ultimate closer, you guys. You guys don't even touch him. I'm not going to try to compete with him. Oh, yeah. You guys, guys. Did you guys see the guy? Turned teams. I saw that this came public in my feet. Thaddeus, what's his name? Thaddeus something. He was a personator of the guy from Hangover. Oh, Thaddeus Vegas impersonator. Well, he's in Vegas. Yeah, he's in Vegas. Yeah. Thaddeus is his first name. He impersonated the guy from Hangover. You know, some of them beard with a beard. Yeah. Who is that guy that I saw? Galfinakis. Thank you. Yes. And he had just lost his job, lost his like relationship or marriage or what like that and had not, and decided, and said, he looked like him, flies to Vegas and literally makes like a quarter million a year impersonating him. Just wearing the same clothes. Yeah, that's him right there. That's him right there. Glasses and all that. Oh, yeah. He makes 250 grand a year just doing that? Yes. Look at it right there. He did his job. Imagine he shows up at a party, dude. You'd be like, yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah, of course. Everybody going like, that makes sense. Wow. You got to respect the game. You got to respect the game. Speaking of this. Right? How much does he get paid to do that? Quarter million a year he made. What? Yes. And all he does is show up to play. Yes. So if you read the article about it, it actually talks about like how much like his life has been a blur because of like all the party and it's, yes. He's just a baby. Hi, everywhere he goes. Hi. Speaking of impersonators, you guys saw that one guy. Remember how people were taking, there was a video taken of a guy in his car in Miami that looked just like Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, I didn't see that. You didn't? No. Okay. So people were filming this guy. There were clips of this guy in Miami. It was Epstein. They're like, he's alive. Yeah. Anyway, this guy shows up and he's like, I'm not Epstein. What's his name? Something Pete. It's like Miami Pete or something like that. Yeah. Find out what his name, see what his name is. It's not Miami film. My son's video. Yeah. Miami Pete, I think his name was. Anyway, now he's saying, I'm not Jeffrey Epstein, but now people are saying, no, you are. And they're comparing pictures. I see him right there next to it. Oh, Palm Beach Pete. Palm Beach Pete. He says he used to party with Epstein. He did say that. This is getting weird, bro. What if it is? Yeah, what a creep, dude. So there was a picture of him with a private jet and it's the same private jet as Epstein. So now it's a conspiracy theory. I mean, that he actually is Epstein, but that's, that's a movie. He doesn't look like it. No, he looks enough. He looks enough off from him. So one and I, I'm sure it's debunked, but like there was like this video floating around of like, so Woody Allen had like court side seats. I think it was like next game or something. And in place of Woody Allen was literally Jeffrey Epstein sitting there just like chilling like the camera was on him and everything. What was it exactly? I think it was probably an old video that they're circulating like it was like recent. That's my guess, but like for a suspect, no, no way, dude. Like he's just popping up everywhere. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he's not dead. I mean, I don't, yeah, that's, that's up for grabs. He's not as I've been. Almost people had arrested with that. Yeah. Zero. So many anyway. So, you know, I got to bring something up because this just came to mind because my cousin, I'm going to text read with my cousins and he's like, oh, this sucks, dude. He goes just after the five year warranty. It's like five years in a month after my stupid washing machine broke and I got to go buy a new one. So we started talking and I'm like, were appliances just, did they just not break back in the day? Cause I can recall like appliances in my grandparents house are like 30, 40 years old. Yeah. That just lasted forever. Oh, I was 100. You know, put our full hats on with the conspiracy stuff. I 100% think cars, phones, computers. Well, not cars. Cars break. Cars last way longer. Technology. They write 100,000 miles. They last, they last right to their warranty. And then they don't. You know, look at this. This is true. See, I told you, I looked it up. Appliances were generally sturdier, more durable, had longer lifespans. Yeah. And 1970s or 80s. Watch it for profit margins. My last 20 to 25 years, many modern appliances are built with shorter lifespans. Yeah. That's what they're intentionally doing. They're fancy parts. See, they're with furniture. Yeah. And you know, like, like old furniture. Have you ever picked up somebody who's like your grandparents? They're furniture. They're heavy. Oh my God. They're heavy. You've got furniture today. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Ikea shit. It's like fake hollow wood. It's like not even real wood, but real, like old furniture was like carved. And that's so durable. We have so the, the one that we have in our, in our bedroom is over 100 years old. What is it? Our dresser. Oh, really? Yeah. Our dresser and we refurbished it. Katrina's great grandma into the family. Nothing solid. Oh, we've referred, it looks brand new and looks beautiful. I, we paid a refurbish it, but it's like this sturdy, hard, like solid, everything on it works perfect still. Wow. You know, that's just the way it's built back. You know what, you know what? I was reading up why they lasted so long and it was because newer stuff today has all of this, like there's all these regulations on energy, like on how to conserve energy and water and that makes them less durable. It was back then they were like, whatever. I would think things back then too were hand built. Were they? Yeah. You know how many years ago? 70s, 80s. Maybe, maybe. I mean, I bet a lot of it was. But they lasted a long time, dude. My parents had appliances forever. I mean, everything's done all machine and slapped together now. They're like metal parts instead of like plastic parts or anything. And like, yeah, they, they chance out on a lot of these hinge points where it's like at the wear of just opening and closing doors. And it just. And I honestly think the same way we talk about how food scientists have come in and engineered food to be so hyper palatable. I think you have people that have these companies that have been around forever have come in and they're like engineered it to precision of like, this is how long it needs the last. Yeah. Like if we want to, it needs the last right about this length. That's the same. It's the same taste. You have the repair business attached to it. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the cars and like you can see that from appliances. It's either that or it's just not. And you don't find it suspicious that every time you're, you, you pay your iPhone off. It's not a stretch at all. It's all started up like crazy. No, there was somebody. Yeah. It was a lawsuit that actually like they won. Yeah. Maybe that could look by the, by the eighth time it happened to me, it was pretty obvious. The first couple of you got by. Yeah. Each update just. Yeah. But I've had 12 of those things. And I'm like, by the eighth one, I was like, wait a second. Every time I just finished the two year payoff plan, it starts. And then they freeze it out. They just like change up the, the plugs and, and the way that, you know, Oh, when you put the chargers, yeah, they get rid of it or it's. Look that up. Look at me. Yeah. Are they? Yes. iPhones are designed with a limited lifespan through both technical software and marketing approaches, leading to planned obsolescence. And planned obsolescence. Yeah. iPhones simply become obsolete through a combination of slower performance, reduced battery life and lack of support of new software updates after roughly five to seven years. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess that sucks. Yeah. Well, especially when it's, you're talking, what is it up to now? The 1300 or a $1,500 phone where phones are something like that now, right? Is that how much they cost? Yeah, they're over a thousand. What are they done? What's an iPhone? The new iPhones. I think you're like $1,500. Yeah. I think they're $1,300 to $1,500. Wow. So probably it's $1,300. What is it now? It depends on which one you're getting. The 17 pro max is. 1099 plus for the 17 pro max. But if you want more like data or whatever. Yeah, I was going to say that's the bearer. That's the base. That's the base of that. You know, we got, you know, we just got at home. What? So. Landline. Yeah. Did you really? Yeah, but it's not a landline. So my wife was like long cords. Yes. So my wife is really trying to focus on figuring out ways to go back on our phones. Yeah. Okay. And in particular, a lot for the whole family, but a lot for herself because she's at home. She homeschools the kids and it's like, you know, I want, it's such a pull. It's so easy to just get on your phone. She's very conscious of it. So she bought a phone that you Bluetooth to your phone. You lock your phone and then that's it. And if somebody calls it rings on that phone. Yeah. And since nobody ever calls. Yeah. Does he go off? People know like you want to get a hold of her again. You call her. If it's that important, you'll call me. Yeah. And it's got the cord. It's an old school with the cord. You pick it up. And so if I called her right now, that's how she would answer. And we talk on the phone and she'll tell me, she's like, all right, I'm turning my phone off. So I want to be able to hold her. I want to have her a beeper. Huh? Yeah. So that was the beginning of like people get a hold of you all the time. Was a pager. I suppose. I know. We look like a bunch of drug dealers. Everybody in high school had a stupid beeper. I had one. We all had one for a minute. Just for a minute. I had one for a long time. Oh, so did I. Yeah. I had one for a long time. What do we need it for? Nothing. Just my friends would hit me up. Right code back with your girlfriend. Yeah. One for three. Yeah. Yeah. Your buddies boobs. Yeah. I see. Just a waste of time. Doug. Doug, did you ever use a beeper? Never did. You never. He was too old for that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He jumped. How'd you guys get a hold of each other when you were kids? Blocked and knocked on their door. Pony express. Pigeons. Hey, Mike Tyson's still using it. Smoke signals actually. The bottle with the note. Oh yeah, that was a thing. You put the note in the ocean. I hear that the schools are, I think California is trying to pass laws right now with the phones at schools. Yeah, my daughter, she has to put her phone in a fair day bag when she gets there. She does. Like literally a fair day bag. That's what they do in my kid's school too. So like all the kids, how does that work? Drop them in. Like in the classroom or in like. As soon as they get on campus. As soon as they get on campus. So there's like somebody there. You have to go ask for it if they want a message. So, but you, they have someone like policing the entry to the school and as you come in, give me your hand them over and then someone's managing the thousand phones. I mean, I don't know how it all works out. That's why I'm asking questions for the two dads that have kids in high school. They got bags, dude. You never thought to ask your kids these questions. I don't know. I don't, I actually seen it and they grab it and they put it in the bag. I don't care how they organize the business of it. Doesn't that just strike you as like a lot? They keep it like next to the classroom that they're going to. And so like the bags there and then they, you know, each, I guess the teachers, you know, responsible for it. I don't know. And then passes them back out. I have no idea. Sounds like a lot of guessing over there. I've seen them do it. But I think it's great. I think it's awesome. No, I think it's, I think it's great also. You see kids that otherwise they're all with each other, but on the phone. Yeah. Hopefully kids will get back to like pranking the teachers where you get the universal remote and you mess with the TV. Oh no. Yeah. That's a good time. That's what just erupted in the classroom look like. Do you know what I taught my five year old, which I'm hoping he forgot, but we were in Legoland. You know, we're just having fun. I'm like, oh, this is going to be hilarious. Let me teach him this. Spitballs. Oh, remember spitballs with a straw? I'm not your dude. That is not a good thing to teach. I bet Justin's going to love that. So we were shooting, we were kind of shooting him a little bit. I'm sort of flip boogers. And then I like, when I did, I was like, oh man, I hope he doesn't remember this. It's like he's not going to remember. For sure. What do you remember? Kids, this is for sure. I got to talk about element because I really got to give them credit. Going on TV. Oh yeah. They're doing an ad on TV. Yeah. They're going to be on a commercial on TV. Yeah. I show up for two seconds. Yeah. Someone sent you a new commercial. I'm like, I am. I looked at it. It's literally. No, it doesn't even say my name, bro. It's the side of my face. It's like a flash and I go to someone else. Only person that's known will know it's me and my mom. She'd be watching. Anyway, what they, what they've done and you'll see every once in a while, I see products or methods or whatever, a complete shift in industry. But what they did is, is crazy. They single-handedly completely shifted and changed the fear around sodium. It was element. Element did it. But up until element, everybody was still afraid of sodium. It's bad for you. Don't have too much. Electrolyte drinks had like a sprinkle of sodium and people who understand electrolytes, like if you need electrolytes, if you're sweating a lot, if you're actually drinking this cause you need the electrolyte, you need it all. You need a lot of sodium. That's the main thing that you need. Not like a hundred milligrams, but like a thousand milligrams element single-handedly, cause they had, they were very brave. They put a thousand milligrams per serving and it crushed and now everybody's copying them. Well, you know, the origin story of that is Rob Wolf and his training and some of that. He was in his jujitsu, he was strength training and he was doing other stuff. Paleo diet. Yeah. He was on the paleo diet. So yeah. So he was, it was just completely depleted. And so, and then he looked at the space. Nobody had enough sodium in the products. So he went out and created it and it's absolutely exploded. Everybody's followed that. Why do you think that, why do you think we still have some popular fitness influencers that shit on electrolytes then? I mean, I guess if you're comparing it to something like Crateen, it's not like this miraculous. If you say that, they say, oh, this electrolytes are like waste of money. They were, if they were to go down a list of supplements that are a waste of money. No, here's the deal. If you're sweating a lot, if you're training intensely, if you're on a low carb diet, you're using a sauna. I would say even if you're on a whole food diet, if you're eating whole foods, most people do not salt their food. If you eat all whole foods, no processed foods, you eat a whole food diet and that's the only source of sodium that you get is through that and you train. That's probably why because those influences are all in those processed like protein shakes and bars and everything else. Well, here's the deal. Again, there are certain people that will notice radical improvements in the performance from using high sodium electrolyte. You sweat a lot. If you're a blue-collar worker and you work outside all the time, you'll notice a big difference. If you're a low carb or no-cube diet, you'll know that the keto flu, that was because you needed electrolytes. You'll notice a little bit more interest in your water. You get a performance base. Here's the other thing and this is the behavioral part of it. This is what I love as a trainer. You show me all the science you want. I don't care. Here's what I see now in real life. I have enough family members that use element to now notice that because they like the way it tastes and it has no calories, sodium is an ingredient in palatability. So when you drink, when you put an element pack into your water, there's no sodium, sorry, there's sodium, but there's no artificial sweeteners, no sugar. There's stevia in there. But the sodium with the stevia makes it taste really good. Sodium is an ingredient in palatability. Here's what I noticed. People drink more water. All my friends that use element. Did you guys have that? They all drink way more water. Did you guys get your care package? No. The pink lemonade? Oh, oh, oh, really good. Yeah, yeah, you know, for April Fool's they did the whole pink lemonade. Oh, pretend. Yeah, yeah, the April Fool's thing. But then obviously they did that to roll out and kick out the pink lemonade. And the pink lemonade is really good. Yeah. If you haven't had it yet, it's really delicious. It's really good. They've, man, they've hit a home run. The pineapple one, the pink lemonade one, the grapefruit one. Here's why they crushed. They crushed for two reasons. One, one, they changed the narrative based on the real data in science. The fear around sodium is totally overrated. Number one, number two, athletes that need it. Notice a big difference, but here's the big one. Number three, so salt is an ingredient in making things palatable. They have created a zero calorie drink that people are like, I love the way this tastes. Now the company has exploded. It is exploded. A lot of people drink element, not because they need electrolytes, like the way it tastes. Yeah. And it encourages them to drink more water because it tastes so good. I have to. When I, when I use my sauna in the, in the hot tub. Well, then it makes, oh yeah, for sure. If I don't, I will get ahead. Oh, I 100%. If I, if I do not do that, I will get it. I'll get a headache for that for sure. And there's also that, right? There's a, didn't we look this up recently? Yeah. My stamina is terrible if I don't do that before like, I was hiking in Palm Desert. Of course. It was like 85, 90 degrees and I was just like, oh, die. And then I drank one. It was like, it's always different. The last time we talked about Elma, didn't you bring it up or didn't we have Doug look up the variants of the individual variants of people that actually sweat out? People sweat a lot more. A lot, like a significant amount. It's like 10 X for some people. Yeah. So which is also where I think they get these people, you know, like I asked you, like that or that it's like, maybe you're somebody who doesn't, it doesn't impact you that much where there's a percentage of people that I guarantee it makes a huge difference. I know for sure I'm one of those people. I know this as a, as a coach, as a trainer back in the day, one of the more difficult things, uh, uh, challenges that would have with clients. Sounds silly. The hydrate. We just get them drinking a flutter. Yeah. It was, it's, and I remember as a trainer thinking it was so dumb. But I saw it so many times. I'm like, this is a common issue. Had I had something like element that for sure would have encouraged. If I poured it, gave them a big thing of it in our workout. It's like crystal light exploded. It's a hundred percent. Because it's a flavor. Totally. Yeah. Point five to two liters per hour during exercise. What a difference. For sweat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's dude. I got a company. I want to, you're going to love this company. And you might have seen companies like this before, but my wife shared this with me. I think it's brilliant. Doug, type in newly and you, you, L Y. This is one of the, one of many companies that are doing this. So this is a company that you could pay a fee. Oh yeah. Yeah. You pay a fee. My niece does this. So I think like you could pay 99 bucks a month. Yeah. And you get six outfits. There's a ton. There's a ton of companies that do this. There's companies that do this by the way. Like every month. Stitch fix. There's companies that do this with high end brands. So you can get like, you want like a thousand dollar dress from that. Let's take a name brand and they send you a trunk with all of so that. And you basically, you keep what you want, you return what you want and you can get, you can get stuff that's used. That's like, like somebody who's, who's, who's sent this out. So there's so many companies that do this. But this is a rental. Yeah. Huh? This is rental. So this is, well, you pay, you should pay 99 bucks a month. Yeah. You get six items sent to you. You pick whatever you want every month. Yeah. So, so here, and my wife was explaining to me, and then I, she got on the phone. She told me about, I'm like, honey, do you spend that much per month on clothes? And we went back and forth and she's, she made a couple of good points. She's like, you know, there's a lot of things I'll buy. I'll wear them once or twice in those things in the closet. Yeah. Forever. She goes, something like this, I could have very few clothes in the closet. And, and there's, there's different packages there. There's one where you could do like three things a month, which is less. And you'll pick three things. They'll send it to you. Now you got three or six outfits or whatever, especially if you're working. Well, this is just like the one that, this is what Mark Randolph talked about. He gives the analogy of the girl and then he talks about like her idea with that. My clothes. Yeah. You borrow clothes. I like the one where you, so you basically you're, you pay a monthly fee like similar. I don't know what the price was. And there's lots of different brands that do this that, and they send you a trunk every month. Yeah. And you keep what you want to keep and you, they pick what they send you. No, no, no, you can pick two. Oh, oh yeah. You can, you can, they have a catalog like this and you go like, I want, I want to try this, this, this, this. And you get to try, you can keep all of it. You can provide like a tailor to you. Yes. And then they actually coach you. And so, and some of them are like these really high end brands. So if you like want to, like before you spend a thousand dollars on this outfit, you can get it, try it on, wear it. And if you like it, you don't. But I was thinking about something like this. So let's say you did something. Cause I, after we got off the phone, cause I kind of poo pooed it at first when I was on the phone with her, but I thought more and more. I'm like, you, okay, you imagine you're, you are a professional, like you work an office job and you have to wear professional clothes. Yeah. Like you could, you could pay 90 bucks a month. It's a write off. It's a write off and you get six new outfits every month or whatever that I'm like, this is kind of brilliant. I wonder how well these companies are doing. I mean, they're, you have to know they're doing great because there's so many of them. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know any of them. I didn't know that one, but I've seen, I've seen already multiple ones myself. Courtney's been doing this one for a long time. Has she? She does it? Yeah. Are there any for guys? Yes. Yeah, there is. I haven't done it because I'm kind of partial to buying my own shit. I don't have like, I wouldn't wear six different outfits every month. I just wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Adam would. Yeah. This is not my style though to do it. Yeah. I don't, I, I prefer to put my stuff together. Yeah. Yeah. I'd rather go pick, pick, mix match. That's for fun, right? Yeah. And it's also like, it's also my, no, it's my style. So like, I don't want somebody's style. And you put your clothes on your bed. Well, you know, it's interesting about that. I look at people in two different ways. So you're either a Pandora person or you're a Spotify person. Oh. I mean, like I'm curating my playlist and I have somebody else to curate. Yeah. Yeah. Versus just no feet, spoon feet to me. Yeah. I'm a Spotify person all day long. It's the exact same thing too. Yeah. I want to, I want to pick. So do you do that before work? Do you put like on your bed? Do you put like your shirt and your pants? I try to. So I always. This is the day before that you do it? I don't always do it, especially now the way my closet is designed. I don't need to because it's the way it's organized, but I try to do that because what I, it saves me time in the morning. Yeah. If I lay my outfit out the night before. And it like saves me 15 minutes. Otherwise what will happen sometimes is I go, ah, what do I do? You spend a lot of time on it like you're off for the next thing? No, definitely not. No, no, no. It's literally. Sometimes the morning I'll look at it, but no, then I'll change it. Yeah. I try, it makes a difference when I do it. Like it saves me time in the morning. I'll get to work 15 minutes early by having it already laid out. It's been a huge hack for me. Yeah. It is a, it's a, it's a hack. That's my favorite thing is that, uh, and I'm. Cause your mom's still at yourself. Yeah. Never come over. My face time. It's a good mom. Should I wear it? My wife won't do it for me. We go to like functions, you know, like like family functions. And she's like, she knows what she's wearing and everything. And I'll be like, what am I wearing? She's like, I don't know. Damn girl. Like you supposed to pick up my clothes. I do it for Katrina. My, you pick her clothes. She can tell him that. I can, you know, I can't even call him my wife. But she looks, she's just complimenting yourself. You're really put together. Yeah. You look, honey, you, she's yesterday. I told her, you look hot. You look hot yesterday. You're only saying that cause everything I'm wearing is everything. Dude, how funny was that yesterday? Good job. What were we talking about where Adam is like low key, trying to get us to compliment him. Remember yesterday, the media was about knowing the business number. So well, he said, he said, he put his number. Surprise. Perfect. He's first thing came out and I already thought I'm like, wow, that's pretty interesting. I was like thinking about it. I was going to say something about it. And you said a couple of comments because you were like, can someone like recognize that I actually really put. I gave him. I finally said he's claims weird. Oh, both. I am. Sal and Katrina both claim that they were going to say something. Bullshit you both were. I gave you plenty of opportunities. Like, damn, bro, you're so brilliant. I cannot believe how brilliant you are. I say that to you all the time. Like, I'm going to give it to myself. I love letting my three year old dress herself. That's the best. Oh, wow. That's funny. That's funny. What's like, does she sometimes wear like the law shins and like, bro, she'll come out with she'll come out with like a two, two and a rain jacket and like shoes. And then she just comes out and she's like ready to go. So do either one of you see your yourself and your kids when it comes to that type of stuff? Like does one of your kids like totally not care? Like, you know, are there are there's one of your kids that like that's how they would dress is how you dress. Like, do you see that in either of your kids? My son, my five year old is kind of stereotypical. Like he'll wear a shirt because he likes the like it's Godzilla. Like I'm going to wear this shirt or something like that. Yeah. My daughter, she likes that too, but she's she's eclectic. She'll go and like put her clothes together. And my son, you got to kind of like, like, go get dressed, dude. Like you're in your pajamas. They'll put a shirt on. Oh yeah. Max wore pajamas all day. Yeah, dude. Yeah. But he's actually really particular about what he wears. Like he'll he's I think it's hilarious. Like you like you. Yeah. She's that Katrina always grice. She's like your son is too much. Like, I don't know where they doesn't look good. Doesn't look right. That or he'll tell her go ask daddy if I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. She'll call me. She was max wants to know if he can wear these sweats with this shirt. Yeah. Yeah. That looks good. Okay. I'll wear it. And my three year old she boop. She's she watches this show called Super Kiddies. So they think these cat, these little cats that are like superhero. Have you seen it? Max watches it. Okay. All right. I'm not a fan of it. Why? Cause he's a real show. He's got two shows. That one. And then the other one that I don't like. It's like a kid's girl's girl skin. I'm like, whatever. Let him watch it. We don't say that. No, I don't say that. I'm like, you're like, you're watching because we don't watch a lot and then it gravitates. I'm like, really? Of all the things we can watch. That's what we're going to watch. Well, anyway. What we'll play. I'll put EDM on and then my kids like to run and I chase them to EDM. It's this thing we've been doing since they were really little. But my daughter, it's you know what it is. Hey, they'll wait for the drop. They'll be like, they'll wait for the drop and then they'll take off. But my daughter will run. She'll jump and she'll land in this weird position and stay in this like down position. And I was trying to figure out like, what is she doing? Most Italian thing. Why is that Italian? Chasing your kids to EDM. For sure it is white beater too. But she'll stay in this like down position. I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, she's in like a superhero position. You know when they land? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And she'll just wait. She'll just sit there and wait. What are you doing? She's like, I have superpowers. All right, let's go. He made the mistake of doing something that they love that you're like, now you're just trapped into doing it all the time. Yeah. You're like, I did this. I remember when I. All dads give me. I'm so glad Max finally grew out of it because we did it for, I don't know how many years. But at one point we had like those little, you know, kind of laser light things that if they were part of some Christmas thing or Easter, I have no idea. But we had them laying around and I put on music in the closet and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dance party. You know, we have a dance party in the closet. I was like, oh God, I had to do that for every day for at least a year and a half, two years. And I remember like, God, let this trend in please. Like, I thought it was so cute and fun when I did it the one time. You know what I'm saying? And then it became a thing like all the time to do that. Have you got, have you figured out like a lazy way to like play when you lay down to play with them? That's like the whole building fort thing was like, great. It was like such a hack, you know, like on the weekends, we like build for every weekend, every day. And then it was just this huge mess in our living room that I was always just like couch cushions and stuff. Yeah. And everything was all, yeah, disheveled and yes, dude. And I love it because they were like, would they be sitting in there, you know, like coloring or whatever. Yeah. It's like, oh, it's a blast. I can't. I love doing that stuff. It's a big mess. But you know, like this morning I was my son and my wife were eating breakfast and he's like, come here. I want, I want you here. Give me a hug. I want, and he wouldn't let me go to work. He's like, give me a hug. No, stay here. And I'm kind of like, oh, I gotta go buddy. And she looks at me. She's like, he's not going to be doing this forever. Like she reminds me. Oh, there's a, I saw this. He's not going to, it's true. I saw this great clip on Instagram to your point you're making right now. And it was an exercise that we all should do. And it was basically pretending to be the 75 year old you writing a letter to the 46 or whatever you are right now, you know, about your day and everything like that. And like that's the letter goes like, you know, start it from the morning, get up, you know, my son comes running in and jump and like in writing the letter to yourself of all these things in those moments. And it's just like, there's obviously going to come a time when like he doesn't run in your room anymore and jump on your bed. And it's like, you may find it annoying sometimes when it's six o'clock in the morning and you just want to sleep. It's like, there's going to be a time when you're like, man, I wish that was happening right now. When it's like, Even tree, but man, kills you. Like hugging. So depressed. Even just hugging and holding your son at some point or teenage son isn't going to want to like just hug dad all the time. Yeah. So I sneak him. Did you still do it? Or does it turn into wrestling though? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Who are the two boys? Who are the two boys is most likely to cut up next to you and watch a movie? Everett Everett is the youngest. Is it just because he's the youngest or is he? Yeah. He's, I mean, we hang out probably the most. Like he's most like me in terms of like what I like to watch on TV or like what I like to do. Like so it's, but you know, I'll find my way. I actually personally like go into Ethan's room the most. Like I go in there to try to, you know, get in his world, but we're not like, I'm into a lot of what he's into, but like it's just easy. Like Everett's kind of always. Do you go into Ethan's room and like, like just have to sit there a little bit and wait for like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean he's, it's a lot easier now because I've been consistently more like, you know, kind of inserting myself into his world and there and trying to understand, but yeah, it's, it's taken work dude. Like cause it comes, it was funny cause it comes easy to Courtney and him have a real tight relationship and it's, you know, and they've had that ever since he was like real little. So it was like, do you attribute to that? Cause was there like a moment in like time where you felt like you had to, you consciously went like, oh, I need to like actively go. Yeah. Seek that. I felt it. You know, do you remember when it, how old he was or like at what point you had to like really start doing that where it's like, oh wow, if I don't start probably 14 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they start hanging out on their own. Yeah. He just started, yeah. Once he started isolating himself in his room, that's where I really started to kind of come in and I'm sure there's probably a little bit too. Like you, there's a part of you that wants to give him space, but then at the same, so you probably, you probably, you probably have to wrestle a little bit with that initially. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I didn't want to intrude. I tried to, yeah, come in like and just ask him questions and like try to be excited about what, if he's working on something or if he's like playing a game, like that's the thing too about like, you know, it's, it's a hard thing to balance when it's like you want like exactly what's perfect. Like in terms of screen time or like if you're playing video games or you're doing this or, but, but also too, like, you know, you want to understand, they have interests and then like, like peer into that. Why, why do you like this? Yeah. He explains the whole thing and then it's, it, I don't know, it gives it a little more context for me. It's crazy cause when I was a kid, so I never had a relationship with my dad where we like talk, like we sit and talk about things, right? And I remember it wasn't actually not that long ago. I was talking with somebody and it hit me like a, like a truck. I was like, my dad used to take me to work with him and make me do work with him cause that's how he bonded with me. He didn't know how to bond with his kids, with his sons in particular, any other way. Cause that's what he knew as a kid, as he worked and he would take me out to the backyard. He'd take me out to go to on construction sites to work and that's how he bonded with us cause there was a period there when I was a kid, I wasn't helping him like, you know, how much can you help your dad when you're 10? Yeah. More than anything, I'm kind of giving him his way, but he took me anyway and it was because that's how he knew how to bond. Which is not what you think when you're 10. You think it's like his burden. Or he just wants me to learn how to work. Yeah. The reality is my, this is my dad's attempt at bonding with his kid. I remember when I, when it hit me like a truck, I was like, oh, dang, that would be really hard. I think about this a lot because I, because Max is only going to be seven, right? So like, what's he going to be like when he gets those teenage years with the way he has his relationship with Katrina and I? There are certain things that I'm like, I think I, that's obvious, right? Like I think when, when it comes to like emotional stuff or where he's sharing something, I think probably he'll, he's going through, he's more likely to probably go to his mom. I have a feeling that the, I don't know bro because you're, you're pretty good at that. You're pretty good at talking to guys in that way. I think when he's a teenage boy, he's probably, he might want to talk to dad. I don't know. That's why I think about it a lot. It's like you're a close guy. That's a good point. Like I actually got closer to Ethan. See? And as he became a teenager, because he didn't want mom's advice. That's right. In that a lot of other directions. So. And you're not like a kind of guy that's like closed. Yeah. No, I'm definitely not. And we're super tight, right? So we're super tight and close. I just say that because I think I noticed like, like for example, when he went and did the soccer thing, he was expressing to his mom, he was concerned that she, that I saw him cry. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, so there's definitely a side of him that's more open to showing the vulnerability and the, and being okay with that. Or I'm like more trying to get him to dust it, you know, dust it off and keep going. There's no reason for us to cry about that. Come on. Keep going type of deal. And so I wonder if when it comes to things like that, that he's more emotional or scared or about, will he be vulnerable enough to share it or does it want to not show that side? So it'll be interesting to see that as it unfolds. You're right though. I mean, I feel like I definitely. Yeah, you're not like, you're not going to be one of those dads. It's like, you know, I communicate with him. Yeah. And we're very, very close. And so, but I do expect that there's going to be, at some point, he's going to gravitate to each of us for different things. Right. Like, I mean, I think we both are close to him, but it'll be. One-on-one time is super important because there's a dynamic with the family, which is good, but there's a different dynamic when you, like I just experienced it with my daughter and my, even my five year old, when you go off with just them. No, 100%. It's a totally different dynamic. This is something that we try. We've, we've continued to foster since he was very little, as you know, we call it boys' day. And, you know, probably once a month. I realize it calls it just the men's. Yeah. Yeah. It's a dedicated day that, that it's just him and I, you know, and stuff. And we do, we do. And so my goal is to always maintain that, you know what I'm saying is, and if I do, hopefully do a good job of doing that as he ages, that it keeps that. Did I tell you guys what, what I really used to start, he's, I like, I have to like walk him back because he likes to do this thing. Well, he like jump on you out of nowhere. And I love it. He jumps on me to nowhere. We wrestle. He does to his mom and hurts her. He, you know, cause he's getting big now. Right. He'll jump on her and she gets, you can't do that to me. And so I tell him like, you can't do that to your mom. Yeah. You can't do that to your older sister. Cause my 16 year old, who do it to her too. You can't do that to, you know, our niece who's 18. I said, you know, you can do that to me. I said, you got to be more soft and gentle with women. So now of course it's like, you know, mom, women are weak. So I can't do that. Oh, well, that's not what I said. That's not what I said, dude. So I can't jump on your mom cause limited. I like to treat her like she puts the brakes on that real quick with him cause he'll do that. He'll get like that. And you can show, Hey, that's, you do that with your dad. You'll do that with me. And she stops it really fast. Like the rough house stuff that's, that's your dad. You don't, you don't, you don't rough house with mom. You know what I'm saying? So she's, she's stopped that really early on. I don't say anything. I had to talk with him to him like, you know, your mom beat the crap out of you. Why don't you still bro? It's not weak. It's like that. So. Paleo Valley makes the most delicious grass fed beef meat sticks you'll find anywhere. 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Now there is some evidence very little, you have to be programming those epigenetics. I was just, so we'll get there because I agree. I'm going to speculate there, but there is some evidence that, uh, if you train for endurance or for strength or whatever that you may actually create a child that is more of those. Pass on the adaptations adaptation. Personally, it makes sense to me because, okay, so we have good evidence on this. What a mother will eat will actually influence a baby's palate and what foods they actually start to crave. It makes sense because when the baby's in utero, it is, it is adapting to what potential environment it may come into. Okay. So really stressed out mom, baby becomes more hyper vigilant, right? Calm environment, baby becomes more calm. Uh, I believe that if the, if the mom is strength training, the signal that's being sent to the baby is we're going to be lifting heavy things, the, whatever the environment that we're being born into requires more strength. So, uh, we're probably going to need to turn on the genetics, uh, or move the genetics in a direction that, uh, contribute to more strength. So I definitely, I would, I would, I would, I would bet money. I believe this. I 100% believe that this plays a role, both the nutrition exercise. It doesn't override like overall genetics. I also think that I think to what you said about calm and stress is, is paramount too. Yeah. Oh, for sure. That's that they know that. I think, I think, uh, main and maybe arguably even more important than being strong during your pregnancy, it would be maintaining, you know, calmness and like, I just think that plays a huge, a huge role in the, in the kid. Well, just seeing too, like how the mother's milk changes, like, depending upon like their needs and like their deficiencies and all of that, it adjusts on the fly. So if it's that wild, yeah, when a baby's sick, the, the, the, that's like the body senses it when they put them out from the morning to the night. It's different. I mean, that's not out of the question to think that they passed on. But I'll say this, like here, so here's the, the, the, I guess the hesitation, right? Don't think as a mom, like I'm going to go crazy with strength training to produce this like super, you can very easily overdo it. It has to be appropriate. Um, and we talk about this all the time with strength training during pregnancy and you're the PRs and I was, that happens before pregnancy maintaining during pregnancy, you're training in a very smart, appropriate way. And the main thing you should focus on is, uh, uh, is this going to help me with my delivery and my postpartum recovery? That's the most important thing to consider with your exercise routine. Next question is from Cornell FG 82. Do you lose in the adaptation when you start a new phase with a new focus? Yeah, to an extent, to an extent you do not a lot, but, or not all of it, but if you always train, let's say, um, in the one to three rep range and then you move to a phase where you're training the 20 rep range, will you lose some adaptation to that one to three rep range? You will because there's a skill and percentage of it. Yes, for sure. You're not losing a ton of it. So small though. I mean, this is kind of what the conversation that we had earlier about, uh, you know, encouraging people to do novel stimulus. Like there's this fear and this is where this comes from of like, you know, if I stop, you know, focusing on, you know, bench, fat bench press and I go do this, you know, dumbbell, you know, incline press all the time. Will I not be able to bench press very well? It's like, I mean, you might see a small for a temporary as soon as you get back to that, you'll get that and some back. Um, so there's a small step back, but it's very, very small and it's, and it's in pursuit of taking two steps forward, you know. Yeah. And exactly. I think this only matters if you're training for a specific lift or specific type of sport, uh, like you're going to compete and your lift is the squat. You might not want to move away from that particular squat, uh, at least not before competition, uh, because you want to lose any, uh, adaptation to it. But I mean, I experienced this recently. I recently started deadlifting, um, uh, relatively regularly, I'd say like once a week or once every the week. And when I'm feeling pretty strong with my deadlift historically, I'll pull 550, 560. My best was of all time was 605, but 550, 560, I'm doing pretty well and I hadn't deadlifted for a long time, but I was doing box squats. I was doing lots of other exercises. So I started pulling again and within, I don't know, like five weeks, five or six weeks. I was up to be able to pull 550. I was able to get it back up there, but week one was like 500. So there definitely was a difference in my ability. Sure. Next question is from the fit life lawyer. How effective do you think a workout program written by AI is? This is a good question and this is becoming more relevant, uh, by the day. Interesting to hear you. Yeah. I think the, so this is, it depends on how savvy you are with AI. Yeah. Because I think that the prompting, this is what we talk about through the future of using AI. It has hinges on your ability to prompt it. Yeah. Um, cause I've seen terrible advice come from AI and then I've seen wonderful advice come from the AI. Your bias dictates it. Yeah. Exactly. And so if you, uh, don't know how to prompt it correctly or, uh, really, like just simply saying, like produce me a workout, blah, blah, blah. If you do a generic prompt like that, then you're going to get a generic workout. But if you know how to prompt it really well, uh, like 49 year old female, you know, this many hours, I sleep this much. Right. Here's my hormone. I have a bad hip or whatever. Right. Then you might get better. You're feeding it a ton of data and yeah. It's awesome. I've played around with it and seen what I can do with it. But I'm prompting it and I'm prompting it from the perspective of a trainer's mind. Yeah. And so I think you can get great stuff off of it. You know, I, here's the thing too. I mean, you, you, you can get free workout. You've been able to get free workouts online for a long time. Uh, so I don't think this is like some huge, it's not a breakthrough. No, it's not. Um, it's better than you guessing, I guess. Uh, but here's what it won't do. Um, it will not replace a personal trainer. The value of a personal trainer is not that they write you a good workout. That's not the value. That's like one little thing that they do. The big value is their ability to guide and coach you and adjust on the fly. And I'll have to guide you like a smart guide taking you through this journey of fitness. Um, and until AI is indistinguishable from a human and looks like a human and gives you that same contact and connection, a lot of stuff. Uh, it just not going to come close to you. By the way, too, I mean, I'm on this kick ever since I heard that interview with the diary CEO. It's not really AI who's writing that program. It's the internet's ability to scour the internet of all the data of other smart trainers that have put out all this information and it's aggregating all that and giving you a smart and dumb. Yeah. That's it. It's just, that's what it's, so you could technically to your point, Google search and find right before AI, a good workout program that for free 100% you can. So that's how the, the AI got it from that. It's, it's just, it's scouring it off. Yeah. It's scouring the internet for you and it'll, it'll hopefully get you the good one. If you prompt it correctly, if you don't prompt it correctly, you might just get you the most popular, the most searched or the most shared one. And so how you prompt it will dictate how good of a program that was, that already exists on the internet that you will actually receive. If someone asked me to write them a program and I didn't have the opportunity to train them, right? So I'm not their trainer. I'm just talking to them and they say, Hey, I'd like a good workout for me. I'm going to ask them a lot of questions before I can give them a workout. Yeah. I'm not just going to be like, here's a good workout for you. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's going to be like, okay, well, tell me about your lifestyle. Tell me about your goals. What's your past history of exercise? What does your sleep look like? How about your diet? You know, what's your age? And then I'm going to write out a more accurate or appropriate workout for the, even though it's a general workout, that's going to be good for them. That's what's interesting about AI too. It's not asking you all those questions. You have to literally insert that every step of that. That's what the prompting, I mean, by that, that's the, like you don't know what they don't know. Right. You, you are what you're alluding to is that your trainer brain knows what to add all the right questions before. If someone said, I want to give me a workout program to build the most strength, you know, and you, you wouldn't just go like, Oh, here it is. Yeah. And you would never do that. You would go, you know, tell me about your experience. Yeah. Tell me what your street, tell me about what you do during the day, like what your work life looked like, what's your stress levels. What's your calorie? I mean, you'd ask a whole host of questions and then you, from those, you would give the best generic workout program that you could give that person. And so the, the person that's prompting the AI needs to know those questions that that trainer would ask them in order to prompt it efficiently to get something that is really good. And yes, you could if you knew how to do that. But if you don't, then you, I mean, just Google search, you know, top 10 workouts. Same thing. Same thing. Next question is from Matthew in this with your guys. I've identified an imbalance in my hips. That's throwing off my form during lower body exercises and causing back pain. What can I do to correct this imbalance and stop further injury? So, yeah, I was just saying, without knowing the specific type of like where the pain is watching your technique and form, noticing the imbalance or seeing what the imbalance looks like. It's hard for me to give you specific, impossible for me to give you specific advice. That being said, unilateral exercise is a great kind of catchall. It does a pretty remarkable job at solving these issues for people when they go to do as unilateral exercise, start with the good side and then try to copy that with the bad side. And then from then on use the bad side. Expose all the compensation. Yep. And so it becomes more clear and obvious where you're in stable, which you're going to be weak in those areas, which we need to strengthen. So, you know, it too, just like that split stance or, you know, just, just being able to control your body from that perspective, then you go back to bilateral stance and it's like you're reinforced. So, I mean, you're right. We don't have a lot or enough information to give like precise or permanent, but I'll give you some pretty spot on advice that I think if you follow, you'll see a significant difference and that is get really good at 90 90s and the discrepancy from the left to the right. Cause what I can guess right away without seeing you do 90 90s is you're going to probably notice on one side, you're way more proficient than the other side. So work at getting those equally balanced out in your 90 90s and work through map symmetry. You do those two things and I bet you we make a huge progress. We'll talk about this. Yeah. Look, if you like mine pump, come find us on Instagram. It's mine pump media. Thank you for listening to mine pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance. Check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at mine pump media.com. The RGB Superbundle includes maps, anabolic, mass performance and maps aesthetic nine months of phased expert exercise programming designed by Sal Adam and Justin to systematically transform the way your body looks, feels and performs with detailed workout blueprints and over 200 videos. 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