30 Years of Resident Evil

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That's not even an ensemble, by the way. That's two guys, okay? Fuck this, fuck all this, goddammit. Our show... Our show sucks. We shouldn't get an award anyway, but it would be nice to get the fucking award. Are you... Oh, great. And they're giving them... What's that? A giant check? A check for one million dollars? Oh, great. I couldn't have used that. Our show does one sixteenth of what they do. I would have loved it. Oh, wait, what's that? A key to the city? Oh, great. Now they're the presidents of Austin. That's fucking great. How nice. How wonderful. Oh, good. Yeah, everybody's clapping. Oh, good. Yeah, go ahead and clap for them. They're actually a really big show. They didn't need the recognition. You know who this would have helped? A much smaller show like us. A show hosted by an ensemble of people who have a hard time with eye contact. That too should have gotten the award, okay? Not two cool guys. Sir, we're gonna have to ask you to leave. Oh, you know what? I was actually on my way out anyway. Here, here's something for you on the way out. We evade the T-Virus and come face to face with the Umbrella Corporation as we discuss 30 years of Resident Evil this week on Get Play. Welcome to Get Played, your one stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host Heather Ann Campbell along with my fellow host Matt Oppo-Dakka. Hello everyone. Mr. Games, the Xbox kid, the finisher, the franchise. The franchise. The franchise is low key, very tough. It's so good dude. Something about it is really, really good. Nick blessed me last week with the franchise. Yeah, it was a good nickname. I'm sure as you heard from that opening, we lost our recent nomination for Best Ensemble. Yeah, but now we're in an award losing podcast and that's kind of nice. We've always been in an award losing podcast. We're never award eligible. That's true. Now we can say we're losers. We're an official, we're the premier award losing podcast. Yes, congratulations to the other nominees and to the winners, all of whom deserved it. Deserved it and also our better shows. Yeah, I looked at your YouTube pages and all of you had like, What's bigger than us? Like 1.5 million people tuning in to your show. I was recognized on the street recently and somebody threw a can at my head. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh good, you got my can. Yeah. Can I talk about the experience real quick of going? Madhavadaka on the floor of the R-Head podcast. Because nobody would necessarily get this part of the story. I was there. I was there for work. As a benefit of that, I got to go to the awards and potentially accept an award on our behalf. I'm sitting in the room. First of all, I get to walk to red carpet, which of course extremely comfortable for me. Oh yeah. Loved that. Aces. Loved every second of that. There was a moment where I walked the press line and there was people with microphones doing like a little social content. Did a little interview with somebody from the Washington Post. Next person over, People Magazine. Pulled their microphone away as I got close. I was like, okay, fine. I'm just going to get out here so I don't suffer this humiliation again. And then also they spelled my name wrong on the thing. That's fine. People have been doing that my whole life. Apocada. Easy to mix up. I'd say easy to mix up. There's only three consonants in my name. The rest of it is vowels. You can put them in any order. Oh, bokeh. And so I'm in the room. It dawns on me after the first nominees for the first award that they're going to play clips of the shows. Incredible. After saying each nominee. So a new fear sets in that an audience of strangers and normies are going to hear our show. And then also various celebrities that were at this event. Yeah. Will Ferrell was one of the intro guys. There's no way he stuck around for a category. Probably not. But he was on the show. I go vote him. Pal of mine and a podcaster and her own right hosted the show as well. And but like there was like other, you know, how famous people have podcasts now. Yeah. There's some of them sitting around. And so when it gets to our category, it's presented and they play a clip. The audience not very warm in general. Yep. You could have heard people across the street. Full volume. What they were talking about. It was nothing. Nothing for the clip. But was the clip necessarily highly representative of what makes the show interesting and it goes with good ensemble. No. I would say no. I would say no. Who chooses it? I don't know. I was I was shocked that it wasn't a clip of you guys doing dumb shit and me being upset about it. Because I feel like if there's a core, you know, energy to our ensemble, it's you guys getting away with stuff and me shaking my fist like gargamel. Yeah, we're two smurfs. But it was it was extremely fun. Fun to be a little fancy. Yeah. Fun to especially for something for our show, you know, we don't really get a lot of stuff like that. No. So it was cool to go represent and congratulations to what I think is the minimum amount of people to be considered an ensemble. Two guys. I well, I'm really, I'm really grateful you went. Matt, I would not have been able to brave that on my own sober. It would have been a nightmare. Make no mistake. I had a horrible time. It was Austin is crazy. Well, I don't know if you know this. They're keeping it weird there. Yeah, they're keeping it weird. I've been to Austin a few times. It seems like I didn't spend I didn't get to spend that much like actual time in your fair city people of Austin, but the people that I interacted with who are from there or from the surrounding areas. I thought we're very lovely and very this very hospitable. There was a lot of stuff. Well, we don't have to go on this tangent too much, but like there's like a swath of like sort of right wing to right wing adjacent. Comedians that have moved to Austin and we're going next, but but it's crazy to me that they moved there because I was sort of like Austin and I say this affectionately and maybe people from Austin are going to correct me and say it's incorrect. Maybe, maybe I don't know. But for my frame of reference, I've not been very many places Austin to me is like if Oh, I had a Silver Lake. Okay, right. So it's kind of like it's a little rustic. There's still city. You could still get to the city if you wanted to. Right. But there's also like cute little stores. Yeah, it's stuff like that. Well guys like little restaurant and restaurants that say like y'all means y'all with like, you know, like every version of like an inclusive inclusive flag and things like that. Right. But then these like, you know, right wing chuds move over there and they're like, Oh, it's fucking great here. We like, what do you like there? What's for you? Get the fuck out of there. Go somewhere else. Go somewhere that wants you. They don't want you there. They want nice people like us there. Not you. I guess you could also just have a gun there though too. Yeah, yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been to Austin a few times. The first time I went was for a comedy festival, a little bit of Heather Lor. I went to the Austin comedy festival. The Austin Powers comedy festival. I don't know what the fuck it was. Don't you dare. See, that's the that's the that's the ensemble energy we bring. But I was I was on an improv team. The Lor on me is that I started doing comedy extremely young. Yes. And my team was was was flown down for the Austin comedy festival. Your first words were in that hand. Guests of honor. Yeah. No, they were no. No. My version's better. Whoa, whoa. Our baby said no, my version's better. The fuck. And then they turned out a better sketch. It's funnier. But I yeah, I went down for the comedy festival and had a fake ID so that I could go into the bars with the rest of my cast. I see, I see. And and got a couple of drinks while I was there, scared every time that I'd be caught. Yes. I it was a time when I was drinking chocolate cake shots. Oh, sure. You remember those? Yeah. Yeah. If something you drink when you eat a lime and it tastes like chocolate cake. I don't even remember what was. Yeah. Yeah. My version of that was just a scoop a piece of chocolate cake into a chocolate. Fucking good. It's a perfect amount from when you want a little something. That actually does sound like good. Sounds great. A little tiny little spoon. Yeah. A tiny little dessert spoon. Yeah. Chocolate cake shot. Also somebody by the way real quick before I move on to this very important tangent. Somebody I was with over there, one of my coworkers could spend time there. We were walking past this place. She was like, if you go into that bar and you're 17, they don't ask if you have an idea or not. And I was like, well, that's not useful information to me. I'm 35. Just keep pointing and winking at you. Yeah. You can get drinks there if you want. If you're underage. I was like, cool. It's funny. It's good information. We had a lot of fun. The two of us. But it was like it was a very funny thing to remark on. Ranch, I think we've asked you this before, but remind me, have you seen Austin Powers? I have not seen Austin Powers. You've not seen any Austin Powers at all. So you're not familiar with Dr. Evil, Fat Bastard, Mini Me, the rest? No. Hmm. I'm not a lucky ranch. I'm glad you shut down that conversation. Not frow, not number two. Never heard of him. How deep can I go on Austin Powers, uh, Gold Member? I heard Gold Member. I don't know who that is. Okay, okay, okay. Hmm. Scott Evil? No. I don't even, I've seen these movies. I don't know these fucking characters. You've seen all three? I probably was subjected to them. We got to watch all three for the show. I doubt it. So as you can tell from the podcast this week, Nick is out of town. He's doing a tour show with his, uh, also, did they win or did they lose? They won, didn't they? What? They won. They were nominated for an award this time. Not this time, but they've won in the past, haven't they? I think they've won, they certainly won the Hearts of Millions. Well, they've won the Hearts of Millions and he's off doing a show with, with Doe Boys Live. Um, so it's just me and Matt, except we have a third special guest this week. Yes. Um, weeks ago, you may have heard an episode where I live purchased Talking Flower for, uh, for, for, uh, from Nintendo. Yeah. And it came since our, uh, since our last, uh, episode recorded and it, one of the things that's immediately upsetting about it is that its name is Talking Flower. Talking Flower. It's not, it's not like, it's not like Chobee, you know, it's, it's just, it's just, talking flower. Um, it's, it's, hold on, hold on. Yeah. No, it's, it's name should be Chobee. It should have a name. It shouldn't say on the box a Talking Flower for your home. No, no, no. It should be, it should be, it's Chobee the Talking Flower. Well, every other character has a name. What's wrong with Chobee? It's just, it's, it's, hi, I'm Chobee. It's nothing. Chobee. I'm Chobee. Uh, so anyway, um, here he is in the box, uh, Chobee the Talking Flower, canonically. Yes. Uh, he's a, he's got a really good build. He looks great. Yeah, he looks great. Hi, Chobee. He's a, he's a cute, he's a cute little guy. Look at that little guy. Um, now he's, uh, he talks on his own. Okay. So, um, of the, uh, surprising element of the surprising element of the surprising element of the surprising element. Heather just threw the, just panicked, didn't know where to put the box and threw it. Uh, of the surprising elements of this toy, um, one is that, uh, he, uh, in case you've missed the episodes previous where we've talked about this, um, when they announced it, they were like, he's a Talking Flower for your home. He, uh, tells the time, but it might not be correct. He talks. That's a bad function. Bad function. He talks on his own. Yeah. Uh, but you can press the button to get him to speak. Okay. So I'm going to set him to, uh, Talking Mode so that he, uh, can co-host the show with us. Okay, great. Um, and we thought this would be good in Nick's absence because it's the next best thing to having Nick actually hear. Yeah. A Talking Flower. A Talking Flower. So here's what he sounds like when he talks. Can I talk yet? Whoa! Whoa! He's got stuff to say already. Yeah, he's ready to go. He's ready to go. So I'm going to turn him off Silent Mode. Play his little song. Okay. Hey! This is good. That was fun. I, I 100% agreed Talking Flower. That was a lot of fun. Great. So I'm going to set him up at the mic and, uh, we'll see if he, uh, if he talks on his own during the show, we will, uh, you know, speak to him as the, as the third host. His intro just then, you know, can I talk yet? Yeah. Pretty, pretty creepy. Pretty good. When I, uh, put AA batteries into him, because unlike the, uh, He said, Alarmo, my asshole. Unlike the Alarmo, he's not rechargeable, which is shocking to me in the modern age. Yeah, yeah. Um, but I put in the AA batteries and turned him on. And the first thing he said is they say the ocean tastes like tears. And I was like, the fuck is that? Also, he just sounds like a guy. Ranch is afraid. That was the first time I've ever heard ranch scared. She sells seashells by the seashore. This guy loves the fucking ocean. Yeah, that does sound good. It does sound pretty good. And, uh, he's going to, we'll see, we'll see how much he speaks. And we'll see if he, uh, if he speaks, you want to hit that button one more time, Matt, and see what he says. Sometimes it's nice to space out. Okay. Okay. So that's just going to be what he's doing. He's going to be spacing out for a little while. If he wants to say something on his own, we'll hopefully, uh, if you, uh, I swear to fucking God, if you interrupt me, I'll kick your fucking ass. We don't do that shit here. I like that he, uh, I like it's sometimes it's nice to space out is like a really Nick thing to say on a podcast. Yeah. So far he's doing a good job. Hey, what do we just get three of these one week? Let them do it. He's just a guy. Chobe the talking flower. Um, I don't know. I'm really excited about this episode, despite the absence of our third host. Yes. He's so upset about, uh, about our loss that he was like, fuck it. 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Oh, this is the talking flower from from Super Mario one introduced in Super Mario Wonder now in the the broader Nintendo Mario franchise. Is that Nick? No, that's not Nick. He's sort of Nick's replacement for today. You didn't think to call me. We, you know what? We thought about it. We thought about it particularly on theme for today's episode. Right. But we just kind of figured that you were busy maybe doing comedy bank banks. Oh, that's true. Having a great run. Still on episode one. Oh, you're going all the way. You're going back through like nine. Probably at least a thousand episodes. Yeah. I got a list in all of it. So I know the lore. You're not understand. Okay. I'd say some of those some of those episodes in the first couple years. You might want to skip it. And they don't hang up. Sexist. I mean, too. Probably. Well, maybe it's impolite to imply that there's a couple of different types of ists. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a different time.ickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenickenicken No, I'm good. I'm happy to hang out here with my friend Matt. Yeah, okay. It's nice to see you interacting with Heather, as any of you have before, but because people sort of do sort of suspect you guys have been here. It's hard for me to connect with Heather when I'm locking eyes with Nick every time he's here. Yeah, you're sort of holding a stare in his spot, thinking he's gonna show up, but he's not coming. He's like the witch who made the girl in the tower. Uh, like the, from like Rapunzel? Yeah. I don't know about that. I only know that she have long hair. Oh, you said, yeah, she got long hair? Yeah. And she's a knuckle-up witch. She's in the tower. What is it with putting, hang on, what is it, what is it, what is it with putting princesses in tower? Is that a thing that happens a lot? I feel like it happens in Frozen also. She's in a tower of some kind. Yeah, yeah, she's in a tower. They put her in Shrek. The lady Fiona in Shrek is in like a tower. You've never seen Shrek? I've seen Shrek, but like once. Some body. Love it. Okay, good. No, I'm on your side with the song. Yeah. Look, I mean, this is not the time to bring this up. I think it's perhaps one of our best songs. It's a great song. It's generational. You cannot hear that song. And I know it's like, it's been beaten to death in movies and stuff like, you can't hear that song and not have a fucking smile on your face. It's been beaten to death so much though that you get to do it again. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah, see, it's good. They made it all the way to wherever the fuck. It's a Resident Evil 4 set. I think it's like Spanish. Yeah, Spanish. Spanish. Well, Resident Evil takes place in sort of an alternate reality. That's true. But it's not Chicago. Right, that's right. Fiona in Shrek is in some sort of tower. You gotta stop it. Leave Princesses alone. Put them on the ground where they belong. Yeah. That's that. That's my big stance. Get them out of the towers, put them on the ground. Okay. You probably have a question. Yeah, I do. What are you doing? Well, I'm glad you asked. Welcome. And I'm glad we're doing this episode because I feel like maybe we'll talk about this particular game a little bit more later. Oh yeah? Perhaps. I finished Resident Evil Requiem. Wow. And the finisher. The finisher. I rolled credits on this motherfucker and let me just tell you something real quick. I fucking loved it. I really, really loved it. I think like it's hard for me to rank them because I obviously have such an affinity for four and I just did two and I love two remake and I also really, really liked that. But nine sort of sealed the deal for me. I'm not just a Resident Evil 4 fan. Okay. I'm a Resident Evil fan. I love to hear it. And I'm going to, I'm next going to be starting Resident Evil 3 Remake. Wow. I'm very excited about doing that because I want to make my way through all the ones available on PS5 and then branch out from there. I got real nervous today. What? I got an email from Nintendo about RE by Wishlist. And you thought it was RE as in Resident Evil. We'll get a little of this. I had a bunch of those of my Wishlist and they're currently on sale. Wait, so you got to, you, hold on. You got an email about your Wishlist and they were just emailing you to tell you things were on sale? Hey, stuff on your Wishlist is on sale. You want to check this shit out? Yeah. That kind of thing. I go, okay, I'll see what's going on. Side note. Yeah. The length of time in between when the flower talks is unsettling. Okay. So it's going to like happen later. Maybe. Or it could happen now. It could happen at any time. It's just, you would think if you buy a toy that's supposed to talk. Yeah. You, you'd think it would talk more often. Yeah. Well. It doesn't talk very often. Did Furby's talk that much? Did you ever have a Furby? Furby's talk at all? They did. Can they go like what, Gooboo? No, they go like me, Coco. Oh, okay. Me, Choby. Me, Choby. And then when you were a kid and you didn't understand what sleep paralysis was, it'd be like, I'm going to fucking eat your fucking skin. I'm killing you. So I already killed your whole family. I'm killing you next. So you got a, you got an email from Nintendo. Yeah. Hey, check out your wish. You just put some stuff in your wish list for you recently. Cause I'll, when I'm not necessarily hankering to buy a game, I'll toss it in the wish list and be like, Hey, you know what? I'll get an alert about this. He'll tell me when it's on sale and that's maybe when I can get in on that. Resident Evil 1 remake in the wish list, 10 bucks. Kind of too low to say no. Oh, okay. I don't know. I haven't done it yet. Oh, you haven't pulled the trigger? No, but they got a couple of those. I got that one, five, six, which I hear are not good. And then zero revelations, one and two all on sale. I'm kind of like, if you're now that is now the time to invest, what do I do? I feel like it might be, especially since you are now the franchise. I'm not a franchise. I feel like you could scoop all those boys up and play them at your leisure. I'll told. I'm looking at like out the door 50 bucks for all these. And I bet a lot of those are also switch one ports. And now they've been updated to have switch one docked mode on your handheld screen, which was a big news announcement. The ghost shipment, the sort of shadow shipment of a major update for both the switch and the PlayStation pro this week are these enormous graphic updates. Yeah. It's really crazy stuff. Portal gang rise up. But the, but so I'm taking a look at those. What is your next game? Matt, well, I'm playing Pocopia. Okay. Well, I'm playing Pocopia, but I sort of my enthusiasm has not waned, but I've slowed down because unlike, because like an animal crossing, I felt like you only had, you only had the whole day to do stuff. And then sometimes you're like, Hey, you can't do that till tomorrow. Some of these guys are like, Hey, I need you right fucking now. I need you. And then you'll be doing something and some other guy will be like, Hey, are you fucking, are you busy? Yeah, I need you. And it's just kind of like, could everybody just like get in line? I'm just one ditto trying to do my thing. Do you think that this game is going to change ditto's ranking in terms of most loved Pokemon? I thought his esteem for ditto in general in, in terms of placement amongst all Pokemon, now there are what a thousand or so of them, maybe more. I would have, I would put ditto at the very least in the top 30 probably. Right. And that's, that's quite high considering how many there are. Yes. I'm going to go ahead and say now ditto is probably somewhere in the top 15 top 10. Wow. Cause he's, it is saving the world. It's saving the world. And I don't know if you've seen these plushes. I have seen them. I have a ditto plush. I have a ditto Trubbish plush. Because when you unzip the bottom, I don't know if the new plushes do this. My ditto Trubbish, you unzip, you invert and it just becomes ditto. Does it have little, yeah. It has the little beat eyes. Dot eyes and little smile. Yeah. It's a good guy. I have, you have no idea how badly I need like a ditto Charmander. Yeah. I got to get it. You got to get it. You got to go to the Pokemon store. I got to get, I got to get a ditto Charmander. Yeah. Um, I was just, I was, I've been playing that, but for some, I was just, I was just traveling to Austin and for some reason playing it on a plane was kind of like, there's just too much going on. And I was kind of like, I need to do something a little less intense. Pick back up on Dragon Quest seven reimagined. And I think I played that for like three straight hours. Wow. It's like, not very long, but I fucking loved it. It's a very pleasurable game. And it's like, because I'm playing it on like whatever the easiest setting is. Just a walk in the park. It's like I'm not even doing anything, but I'm getting the enjoyment of doing something. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's, it's, it's a home run. So I'm hoping to have some more uninterrupted time with that. Cause I'm really, really enjoying it and finding it very pleasurable. And now I'm in a spot where I just did the, have you played Dragon Quest seven before? Are you familiar at all with the different areas and the beats of the story? Nope. Okay. I don't think so. What was it originally released on? On the, I think either the, I think it was the DS. Maybe I have. I don't know. I don't know. I just got to a town where there was like robots. Oh. And you got to figure out what the fuck's wrong with these robots and why they're acting like this and like to fight robots and stuff. And it's really, really cool. That sounds great. And now I'm just, I'm just past that. And I can kind of go in a couple of, I think different directions right now, which I'm very excited about. I'm excited to get back to that. Excited to play Resident Evil three in the near future. Heather, what are you playing? I have a question first before we move on. Given your full backlog and your current library, if you were to go to a desert island right now and you were going to stay for three months and you could only bring three games, what are the three games you're going to bring? I mean, if that's the case, I'm probably bringing the Switch to, I'm bringing Pokopia, I'm bringing Dragon Quest seven and then, I don't need a third. I think, I think, probably just something else. Like I was playing a little bit of Bellatro on the, on the plane also. I was having a great time, great time with that. I kind of caught somebody sitting next to me kind of going like that. Plane rides are great. Plane. I mean, I fucking hate riding in a plane. I'm terrified of planes, but in terms of dedicated gaming time, it can't be a plane. Let me tell you something about having on my plane. Uh-oh. The plane. Wait, if it's going to be a scary story, don't tell me. It's not. Okay. Okay. There was a big laugh in the headgum kitchen. Enormous. I can only assume Ranch is pumping the audio from in here out there. I thought Ranch was watching like a talk show. It was such an enormous, like sounded like a full group of people. That was also more people than I've ever heard here. I can only assume there's three people in the kitchen. All right. What were you saying? Um, oh, it's not scary. Okay. I go, I get on the plane. They're shutting the doors. Everybody's seated. Everyone's kind of like, oh great, we're on the plane. This is happening. There's a lot of stuff going on at the airport. Sorry that everybody's having a hard time. We're about to take off. Oh. Okay. First part of this was a little bit scary. Oh boy. It was, but it's not bad. There was a delay in boarding because they got in the intercom. They're like, hey guys, sorry, the computer's all messed up. Every time. But I'm like, you got to say it a different way. Yeah. You have to. Cause messed up, I can keep filling in the blanks until I'm dead. You know what I mean? Like what does it mean? Like, like, it's set on auto crash. Crash plane? Yes, no. Yes. Like what's the vibe? Like how messed up? It's like in grayscale. Like what do you mean? It's upside down. Like that gets sorted out. We get on the plane. It keeps saying we're like 30,000 feet up, but we're clearly on the ground. It's going to make a flying really tricky. Yeah. It's charting us directly to the lost island. And then we get on the plane to close the doors. Everybody's buckled in. All right. We're about to take off. Everybody keep those seatbelts fastened. Probably noticing that the wifi is not working. The wifi is not on for this flight. Whole plane all at once goes, oh. I was just like, all right, well, I just played my switch the whole time. I was like a big shit up there. It's great. Yeah. Everybody else had to raw dog that flight. That's right. Yeah, they did. Because a lot of people don't plan a second form of entertainment. No. When I'm going on a plane, I have to have three forms. I have to have tangible book. I have to have video game console. And I have to have some kind of like phone slash iPod, like music option. And I have to have three because I'm like, what if one of them goes wrong? This is good advice. This is good advice. Next flight I take, I'll do this. But Heather. Yes. What are you playing? Matt. Matt, I have put a pause on everything except for two games. Whoa. Because I was overextended. I was playing Resident Evil. I was playing Pokotopia. Pokotopia. Pokotopokotobok. Pokotopokotobok. Pokotopokotobok. Flower bail me out here. And you know what? I got to say so far, Flower, you've been a horrible guest. I hope it's on talk mode. There's no way to check. Can I press it again? Press it again. Carica, I just got an amazing idea. Okay. Will you let us know? What's he talking about? Oh, what? I didn't hear what he said. What are you talking about? Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. It is a confounding device because also it asks questions. You can't respond. You can't respond. It can't hear you. It asks on the box, one of its demo phrases is, where am I? Which you can say in five or six languages. The thing that I do like about him is that he's extremely cute. He is cute. I kind of want to get it. He also kind of looks gross. Some of his body is dirt. You know what I mean? Yeah. His whole body is the pot. He's not the flower. He's the pot also. Yeah, he's the pot. He's the flower. He's talking flower. His name is Choby. So I cut out all of my games except for two. Okay. The games I'm focused on, the game I am hard, corn, like, lasered in on God of War Ragnarok. I'm going to finish this guy. I don't want to bounce off it again. I don't know where I am in terms of the game. I've put in like 25 hours. Okay. I don't know time to beat or anything. I will say the other day I was fighting some group of guys, some group of fucking optional monsters. Yeah. And I was having a really hard time with it. I kept dying, kept dying, kept dying. And I was like, maybe I got to come back to this. Maybe I got to optimize my armor in a different way. And I was like, you know what? I want to get through this game. So I'm going to set the difficulty down a couple of notches. So I go into the menu. I set the difficulty down. I go back in, I fight the guy and beat him. And I'm like, great. I go back into the menu to re-calibrate the difficulty. What I learned is when you recalibrate the difficulty in God of War, it then says in order to accept this, you have to go back to the most recent checkpoint. Do you confirm? And I had denied it and then gone back into my fight and wasted the guys only because conceptually I thought it was an easier run. Whoa. Which felt like Dumbo's feather to me. Yeah, that's crazy. Like I breezed through the fight thinking, oh, now it's going to be easy. And at no point felt challenged and beat these guys who had beaten me like 10 to 12 times. I wonder if I could do that with my own life. Hey, maybe it's actually not that hard. You know there's a, well, this is kind of morbid. This is a horrible experiment. But I think about it all the time because why the fuck did they do this stuff to animals? They put rats in a pool and they let them swim until they drowned or until they go underwater. They gave up to see how long these rats will swim. The rats last like two hours, right? Maybe one and a half. Then they take another group of rats and they throw them in. But about 45 minutes into the test, they take the rats out of the water for a moment and they put them back in. The rats swim for 24 straight hours because they have a concept now anytime I might be saved. Oh, interesting. And so they can push so far beyond their limits that they just keep going because they're like somebody's coming, somebody's coming. I think about that in terms of like how, like what's the survival mechanism, the evolutionary advantage of religious belief. But I also am like, fuck, all you got to know is like, there's a possibility I could fix. I could do this. Something might work out. Yeah. So might as well just keep trying. That's the first thing I thought about after I thought I had set the difficulty level different on God of War was the rats in the pool was all I had to be told was it's easier now. Yeah. I pressed circle instead of X because I'm constantly fucking pressing the wrong thing. And then when I went back into the menu to fix it, it was already still the hard difficulty. I love the menu sounds. It's like a like, I feel like there's like a boom or something. It's like, it feels, it sounds very serious. All the music in that game is great too. Good, good game, good music. Love hanging out with my Viking boys. I love the casual way in which there is now two games worth of assumption of like your Norse knowledge. Yeah. So they're just throwing out shit like, well, if you're going to go talk to the ACR, you better, you better hide your identity. And it's just like, oh, that stuff for me, like to have anybody in the whole world be like talking about the ACR. Yeah. So good. What do you think about that squirrel guy? Fuck the squirrel. My relationship to the squirrel is Kratos relationship to the squirrel. He's like, oh, God, this guy. He just, I like when he goes up to him and he just goes squirrel. It's pretty good. The other game I'm playing, of course, is Fortnite. Although I saw on the Discord, I do still play Pokemon card game pocket. Yes. Just hit Master Ball again this season using the same deck I used the season previous. I think they've got to change stuff up because I shouldn't be able to hit Master Ball two seasons in a row with the same deck. You posted an Empoleon card today. Yes. But that's for next season. That's for next season. Next season. I posted because Trubbush is on the card. Yes. And I was like, what is Trubbush doing up there? He's having a blast. He's smiling. Side note, I did meet with a couple of listeners. Randy and Josh shout out and they gave me and my wife custom made minifigs. They gave Mary a biker mice from Mars. And they gave me a Trubbush, a hand painted minifig of Trubbush. Wow. And it is my most precious boy. Wow. Give a photo of it. And I don't. I'm stupid. Kind of would like to see it. Yeah. Well, he looks like Trubbush. I wish I could picture it. So I'm playing Pokemon the card game pocket. He's this big. He's really tiny. Like a little Marcel the show. He's a little guy. And he's in a little plastic case to protect him. But you can take him out and put him out anyway. And he's on a little round base that looks to me like an amiibo base, even though he's really tiny. I recently got to I got a Hornet and I got a the night from Hollow Knight. They have like a little base like that to the amiibo. Yeah, love it. But the game I'm playing, you know, that's not God of War. That's not a pocket mobile game is of course Fortnite. Here is this month's Fortnite update. As of recording day, it is the launch of the next season of Fortnite and it could not have come soon enough. I think the most recent Fortnite season was my least favorite since I've been playing. It is set in California. The points of interest are like Hollywood, San Diego, San Francisco, like Malibu style. Like it's it's it's kind of a there's like a big fake Hollywood sign. Republicans worst nightmare season. And I was I was a bit bummed by by sort of it felt like there wasn't any midgame to last season. You have stuff to do in the beginning stuff to do at the end of the the match, but there's no midgame. This season launched an entirely new mechanic, which today I have played to extraordinary exhaustion. It is called rivals. You go up to a board and you click I want a rival and it highlights a random person on the game. And whoever lives gets like a special kind of currency. And if you will, you stock up like 80 killed rivals over the course of something, then you unlock special tiers of weapons and upgrades. So it is super incentivized to constantly hunt people down. And I I was playing with my friend, Miguel, and we start doing the rivals. And at first we're like, this kind of sucks a little bit until we found like the every time you start a new thing in four night, it sucks a little bit. But once we find the rhythm of it, we're just cackling like crazy. You go up to the board, lock on to somebody, get into the fastest car you can see and just like barrel across the map at this one person who can see you on their map. That's crazy. So they see a dot coming at them to hunt them. Yeah. They also see at the top of their screen a little icon of who you are. So for me, still scratchy. Yeah. Just that idiot cat coming after them. I really love the system. I'm really glad they've introduced it. It makes it so that there is always something to do and it's self selecting. Like if you want to like lock in and get like, oh, I want to loot this area. So I got to focus on this for a little bit. Or I, you know, it's end game. I don't want them to know where I am. Then you can like choose not to do the board. But if you want to unlock a ton of upgrades for later in the season or I mean, honestly, I was fighting against people who had already killed 80 rivals. And I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, man. It is this game launched at midnight. Yeah. Crazy. Like that's it's a half hour to play around a fortnight. Yeah. So they've played 40 hours of fortnight. Yeah. Or they're just no, because you can play multiple rivals in a single game. Oh, so they're just good. Yeah, they're just good. Never mind. I was like doing the math on it. And I'm like, there's only 24 hours in today, but still playing fortnight. That's your fortnight update. Oh, the other update is that Bugs Bunny is now a skin. His secondary skin. So rude. His secondary skin is Space Jam Bugs Bunny. Daffy Duck is a skin. Tell me when Lola is in the game. Lola is apparently coming in the game. Matt, you OK? You OK, Matt? You look like Kevin migraine. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. But at the beginning of the season, you have to choose a faction. Yeah. And it's either the rock. I just saw a thing of this. Or it's a night made of ice. Yeah. And I thought, how funny is it if everybody chooses the night made of ice and they've made this deal because only one skin will be unlocked at the end of the year or at the end of the season. Nobody unlocks the rock. How funny it would be if everybody was like, now we're good. They what they need to do actually is declare what he needs to do is to declare that the hierarchy of power in the fortnight universe is about to change forever. And then people vote to not unlock his thing so they could have this happen again. Well, he's there is a black atom skin. Yes, which will never come back. No. God. Pretty good, though. Pretty good. And you know what? I'm sorry, the rock. Yeah, he seems from what I've heard, he seems like an OK guy. Yeah, I don't know him. I kind of feel like if we met him, we'd love him. Of course. He's charming enough to be mean to us. Yeah, he's well, he might be mean to us. God, what if he just what if I met him and he just punched me in the throat? Have you seen that? There's a good. For when he was a wrestler, he was a little rougher. So he gets into the rest of the ring. I don't remember what the kind of note the context of this was. I wasn't really watching it like that, especially because. It was I was like too young for what I'm about to quote. He grabs a mic from somebody and just goes, shut up, bitch. And the whole stadium was like, yeah. Entertainment used to be so easy. It used to be easy. I wish there was a president who could make it good again. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, I'm writing the rock in. You're writing him into. Oh, presidency. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter what your name. I know a lot about him. You do? Yeah, like I feel like he's just like he's been in the same way that like I didn't watch basketball, but I know like a lot about Michael Jordan because he was just like the most famous guy when I was a kid. And like the rock has been famous my whole life. Right. And again, continues to be like famous. He's just like a. Yeah, he's just a regular movie star. He's a forever fame. Yes, he got it. Yeah, congratulations to him. Congratulations. Yeah. Before we move on to the next part of this episode, Choby, you got anything you want to say? Hmm. Nothing. Nothing. He hasn't said anything on his own. Should I press a button again? Yeah, press a button. Kind of feels like we should. Yeah. I think you're neat. Oh, well, maybe we should get rid of Nick. I know Nick doesn't compliment us like that. No, he he definitely doesn't. Why don't you hit it one more time? Take a load off. Oh, oh. That's starting to sound a little more like Nick. It sounds like the two of those in a row. It feels a little uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're neat. Take a load off. The next one you press is going to be like, why don't you get out of that shirt? I don't have a gag reflex. Like, what the hell? I can't close my mouth. I'm all whole. Hit it one more time. Let's see what is the last thing. If he says I'm all whole, I'm going to kill myself. Rock, paper, scissors, go. Okay. Nice. Oh, I didn't even do it. I didn't even do it fast enough. You have to give me more time to participate. Also, he tricked me. But also, like what? To what end? What? What is it? Yeah. What is talking flower? It is the strangest Nintendo item ever released, I think. I'm going to go ahead and argue that I think the alarm was weirder. But the alarm does something. It serves a function at least. It's a clock. Yeah. And it's a slow wake-up sound. It also is a sleep monitor. It gives you like your sleep readout at the end of the night. Like, it's got a lot of stuff happening. I think that they should make alarm a character. Yes. Put him in a Mario game. Yes. And give him a little digital face. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Might as well. Who cares? But the fucking talking flower is so strange. I've heard I yell too much in the ads. 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And if you think you can see skulls in that game, imagine the way I looked at myself in the mirror when somebody said it's been 30 years since the first Resident Evil game came out, and I saw my own flesh melt off of my face, revealing my skull and a huge glowing sign over my head that said, momentum roaring. It was as if you were walking down what you thought was a normal hallway, and then these dogs jumped through the window out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah, terrifying, 30 years. I still have my long box PlayStation 1 Resident Evil 1 copy. Wow. It's not in great shape. But I bought that game, or had my parents bought it, or whatever the fuck, when it came out. I guess it would be, yeah, my parents definitely bought it for me, because I had rented it, and was like, oh my gosh, PlayStation is when I branched out from being Sega exclusive. Yeah, well, you had to. I became an all consoles household, not because I had to. It took me a second to ingest that, not because I had to. You had to, because there were no games. That's not what happened. That's not what happened at all. Well, no, you're right, they were games, but they just weren't very good. I will say that I didn't own a PlayStation. No, I guess I had it pretty early. I had it before Final Fantasy VII comes out. Yeah. I don't remember the game that sold a PlayStation to me. I remember renting the system to play the launch titles, Battle Arena, Tou Shinden, et cetera. But I don't know what game it was that eventually convinced me, oh, I've got to get one of these. But Resident Evil in 1996 was the very first mainline Capcom Resident Evil game released for the PlayStation 1. It was the introduction of the, not the introduction, the mainstreaming of the survival horror genre. There were games like Alone in the Dark. There were previous games that you're in a mansion, you're solving puzzles. Like it's not an unfamiliar formula, but this is the one like Final Fantasy VII that brings this genre into regular vocabulary. And so when this first one comes out, I'm but a child. And I remember my uncle, who I've mentioned on the show before, who will never be on the show, stop asking listeners. And my uncle will stop asking, I'll never allow it. But I remember being too little and afraid. Like I would just hear the music and be like, oh, no, it's the scary game. Like not want to go upstairs to hang out with my uncle. But it's obviously a franchise that I've come to, you know, to love later in life. My very first, I don't want to jump too far ahead was 2005's Resident Evil 4. Wow. For the PlayStation 2, the port, I'd even play it on the game on its original console. I played it on my PlayStation 2, my beloved PlayStation 2. I played it on the GameCube. When it came out, I've talked about this a lot. I always ordered the same pizza, played it with my friend, and we, you know, barreled through the entire game. So playing Resident Evil games makes me, it's the double decker. The best pizza ever invented on planet Earth from a main chain restaurant. It was a regular crust cheese sauce, thin crust on top, different sauce, different cheese. So you bite in and you get a crunch and you also get the regular pizza. Were you a Taco Bell eater? Something, is that something you've had? Not really. I mean, I know. You know of it. It. They had, they had something that they recently brought back and then took back away. The gordita crunch? No. The double decker taco. And it's a similar principle where it's their crunchy hard shell taco with like the ground beef, lettuce, cheese, all that good stuff. And then it's wrapped in a soft tortilla. Yes. But there's a layer of beans in between. And it is, I mean, it's like every single other thing on their menu, that combination of things. But it's my favorite presentation of it. And it's not a regular menu item anymore. And it's baffling to me. It's the perfect best bite possible every time. Be a real bummer. It's so, so good. But double deckers, and you know what? I think the buses are good too. Yeah. Who cares? Double decker anything. All three double decker types are good. The pizza, the taco and the bus. Wasn't the KFC sandwich that was chicken, chicken and chicken called the double down? It's called the double down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they fucked up with that. If they called it the double decker, we might be talking about it. But because it's not a double decker, it can't be spoken of. That sandwich, I remember, I mean, I was an adult when that sandwich came out. But I remember seeing that and being like, I can't eat that. I cannot eat that. Yeah. I had one. You probably should have had. I probably should have had one. Yeah, I had one. I had one of that. I had one egg taco when that came out for Taco Bell. Oh yeah. Any new Taco Bell item and I'm pulling up into the drive-thru, they advertise me a new one. I'm seeing what's going on. Great. I'm investigating. Great. I'm on the streets. I'm in these streets learning about Taco Bell. I love to hear it. Yeah. I love to hear it. And Nick was here, he'd have probably some. Yeah, take. Some take. Yeah. Taco Bell, Yum Brands. So, Resident Evil comes out in 1996. It's shortly followed after by the Trevor Files and Resident Evil Directors Cut. I remember the Directors Cut. Don't remember the Trevor Files. The Trevor Files. Have no idea what that is. People who are afraid of Trevor. What? Right. I don't know. I don't even know who Trevor is. I don't know. I couldn't tell you who Trevor is to save my life. Resident Evil 2 comes out shortly afterwards in 1998 and that's the game that I believe starts with like the car wreck. Yeah. Yeah, you start in a small town, there's like a gas station that's blown up, car wreck. It feels like, oh, the first Resident Evil is a proof of concept. It's sort of like an indie film. Yes. You know, like a bunch of people trapped in a mansion. If you're shooting that for Hollywood, it's one location. You're like, oh, shit, this is great. It's a self-contained film. Resident Evil 2 is the big budget answer to that indie film beginning. It's kind of, I mean, it's kind of like the jump from Metal Gear 1 or Metal Gear Solid 1 to Metal Gear Solid 2, kind of. We're like, Metal Gear Solid 1 has a lot of innovation and a lot of interesting things going on for it, but Metal Gear Solid 2 to me feels a little more complete in its scope. Kind of. You're like, this is exactly the version of it that I wanted to make, the craziest version possible. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 1, 2, and 4, I feel like are consistently mentioned in the same breadth as the words, best video games of all time. Yeah. I think they're very beloved. Yes. I will admit that even though I own a copy of Resident Evil, after, and I probably purchased it on the dog moment alone, dogs jumping through the window, I'm like, oh, this is great. That's scary stuff. I'm ready to go. But as soon as I find out that I got to like slot things into a statue in order to like open a door, I was like, fuck this. See, even that's the stuff that, that's like the stuff in these games that I really like. I mean, I love the, I'm sort of the Goldilocks, like just right. Nick is the Puzzles guy. Yeah. You're the action guy. And I'm the, hey, this is just right kind of guy. I like, I dance in both worlds, you know? I really like finding, you know, bespoke rubies and and things like that specifically shaped charms to place in, you know, in specifically shaped slots and things like that. I don't, I don't like it. That's not for me. That's not, I don't like it. Big, but what I like about it is that they're not ever really that challenging. Some of them can be challenging. Like I've seen some ones in the later games that can be quite specific. But like the ones that you're just finding stuff, usually not that hard. You know, it's usually just kind of like, hey, whatever. Yeah. I don't want a puzzle. You don't want a puzzle. I don't want, you just want. Yeah. Get out of my way. I'll fuck. I'll kill you. I want to, I want to see what a zombie does when I put the gun in my own head. The zombie? Not your brains. Save your brains. So, so I fall off again, like you. Similarly, in terms of timeline, I fall off of the series until Resident Evil 4 comes out. But I will say that I saw the first Resident Evil movie, which comes out in 2002 in theaters. Let me, let me say something about these movies. We, I think we watched the first one for the show and we watched the reboot, Welcome to Raccoon City, which is more of a, more of an adaptation of the games than the other movies are. I was shocked to learn, well, there's, there's fewer of these other movies that I, than I realized. There's, I think, one, two, three, four, five, there's six of them. You could have told me there was 12. Yeah. And I would have believed you. Yeah. I was also shocked to learn that the second one is titled Resident Evil Apocalypse, which to me feels like it should be like the fifth one, right? Like it shouldn't, they shouldn't jump straight to Apocalypse. Because then the subtitles there after are Resident Evil, Resident Evil Apocalypse, Resident Evil Extinction, Resident Evil Afterlife, Resident Evil Retribution, and Resident Evil, the final chapter of the Paul W. S. Anderson franchise. Well, here's, here's, I will say art, like an arc, conceptually arc, Resident Evil, if Resident Evil Apocalypse is your second one. Yes. Then Extinction is a great name for the third one. Yeah, that is good. Yes. Okay. And Afterlife is also pretty good. Yeah, Afterlife follows. It's, Retribution is where the pattern breaks. Because you're like, no, you added Apocalypse, you had an Extinction event. There's nothing to retribute. There's no, yeah, there's no Retribution to be had. Yeah. You wouldn't call it Resident Evil Revenge. No. Because the world ended and everybody died. Resurrection could be interesting. Resurrection. Because what if the world starts to come back? Yeah, that could work. Final chapter, tracks. Yeah, because they didn't make any more after that. Yeah. And then we get, Resident Evil, Welcome to Raccoon City was the reboot, the second reboot with our boy, Zach Kregger, coming out apparently this year. Apparently this year. And I mean, I don't want to speak too much about it because I'm excited to see it. Right. And I know that there's been some like plot points and things leaked. But he has said in interviews that it's not a direct adaptation, but it's a story set in the world of Resident Evil. And I think that's just like a smart way to do it. Yeah. I hope, wouldn't it be wild, because he can do whatever he wants. Yeah. Because of, I mean, weapons just won an Oscar. Yeah. Wouldn't it be wild if it was just a corporate movie? Like if it was just about, like it was like The Firm or Aaron Brockovich. Yeah. It's like Shin Godzilla, but in Resident Evil where it's kind of like just about the bureaucracy of what's the T virus is loose. What are we supposed to do with this? It's just like, it's a bunch of meetings and it's like, like a Michael Clayton being like you, you think you weren't responsible for what's happening to these people, but you never leave the buildings. I'd watch it. I'd watch him cook because he hasn't done me wrong so far. Yeah, he's not stumbled. But before this movie comes out, we've got Resident Evil 3 Nemesis. Resident Evil Survivor, Resident Evil Code Veronica for the Dreamcast, Biohazard 4D Executor, Resident Evil Survivor 2 Code Veronica, Resident Evil Gaiden, and then the movie, Resident Evil in 2002. I've been hearing that Code Veronica is one of the next ones to get remade. Good. Code Veronica and another remake of Resident Evil 1. Another one. Yeah. I don't know. But in the new style. Yeah, but I still don't know how I feel about that. Look, I'm just telling you. I don't know if the new style works for the mansion. Oh, because it is just one. Yeah. I mean, it worked quite well for the police station. True. God, I love Resident Evil 2. I love Resident Evil. I love, well, here's the thing actually. What is our show? It's just Matt saying I love this thing so much. I love Leon S. Kennedy. And I think I would die for him. I love him so much. Kennedy is such a funny name to get. It feels like the baseball player names. Yes. It's such an American name. There's lore in the Resident Evil documents that he's Italian. Oh, OK. But, well. But I'm like, why is that even necessary to know? It's like so funny. Yeah, it is. But I think the thing about Leon that I like, and I said this in our group chat, is that he's like, in some ways, he's kind of like Duke Nukem if he wasn't a try hard. Yeah. Like, because Duke Nukem wants you to think he's cool, so fucking bad. Right. And Leon is just kind of like, there's a, I mean, he has a lot of, he's known for one-liners. Right. But he's not stealing anybody else's one-liners. He's crafting these on his own. So one, he's having fun. Yep. And two, he makes it look so easy. Yeah. There's like a plant thing in the new one. And at one point, he goes, just so you know, I've killed every plant I've ever had. Like, you gave him a whole sentence. You're talking to a fucking plant. It's amazing. He's talking like, imagine him saying it to this guy. Right. Just so you know, I've killed every plant I've ever had. Hit that button. See what he says. Is it weird for flowers to talk? What is this toy? It kind of almost like it's. It's asking for you to justify its existence. You know, like in, there's like a percentage, like, let's say there's a percentage zero to 100 of it being within the ballpark of our conversation. Yeah. It's kind of never lower than 60%. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, you could kind of get there a little bit. It's like somebody who's like not listening that good. Yeah. And but still able to kind of follow the conversation. Yeah. Yeah. But it's very, it's very strange, very unsettling. Hit it one more time. Hit it one more time. Focus. Let's take a breath together. Okay. All right. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. I gotta stop doing that more. Talking flowers. Yeah. And after I said that it was within 60%, it said it had to focus. Yeah. I just think that's interesting. Yeah. Now that was 100%. Yeah. 100%. After Resident Evil the movie, we get Resident Evil, the umbrella Chronicles in 2007, Resident Evil Degeneration, Resident Evil 5 comes out in 2009. Wait, did I skip Resident Evil 4? I did. 4 is in 05. Let me go. Let me go. Resident Evil 0, Dead Aim, Outbreak, Outbreak File 2, then Resident Evil 4, which again, course corrects for the series. I kind of sort of think, I mean, I think about these games, these like totemic games in your life. There's like a world where I don't play Resident Evil 4, and then I like don't play video games ever again. You know what I mean? Like there's something about that game that is so good. Like if you like play that game, you're just probably going to play video games forever. Because it's just so well done. You're like, oh, I hope they do something else like this. Right. Like there's a world where I just like, I'm like, oh, you know what Kingdom Hearts 2 was it for me? I'm done. Right. I'm done with games. Yeah. But like because I think I've played Resident Evil 4 like maybe more than five times, like five times before the remake comes out. Wow. Like I used to just replay that game over and over again. I love it. It's a great game. Yeah, it's so good. It's a great game. Certainly brought me back to the franchise. Yeah. Yeah. And then we get, yeah, we get Resident Evil, Umbrella Chronicles, Resident Evil, Degeneration, Resident Evil 5. Now, did you play Resident Evil 5? No, but I, from what I understand, this one is the racist one. Yeah. Yeah, this one I did, I played, I played a bit of Resident Evil 5 and I was, I was shocked. Yeah. They can't do that. I was, I was shocked. This was also, I believe, when I was, I was a games journalist at the time. Okay. So it's generating a lot of controversy. Yeah. Everybody's talking about this game and so I have to play it and I was, I was like, how did nobody talk to anybody about this? Yeah. Crazy. How did this happen? Yeah. I don't imagine that it's going to get a remake. No, but. But they did it once. It's only $10 in the eShop, should I just get it? They did it once, maybe they'll do it again. It's not, I mean, yeah, I mean, people didn't. Oh, it's available on Switch? Yeah, I was gonna, I was saying it's only $10 on the Switch. Jesus Christ. Let's check it out, see what's going on. Oh my God. But the, it kind of feels like they're going through all the ones they find important to the current story that they're telling. Like when you, like having, having played to remake, I found that to be extremely beneficial in playing Requiem. Right. Right. And, and you know, also having played four, I kind of feel like they're remaking the ones that are necessary to understand what's coming next. And, and you say understand like that's the goal of these games? Oh, yeah, that's the other thing that I love about these games though, is that they're basically also kind of just, they're as crazy as Metal Gear to me. They're so nuts. Yeah. And they're, they're just like dumb. They're not dumb. No. They have sections that are dumb. Yes. And that are just full on action movie ass, like But Rock nonsense. And it rules. Like it's just like, but they don't, it's never winking ever. It is a hundred percent earnest. They are games in love with being video games. Yes. Capital V video game is what Zig called Resident Evil 4 Remake when he was on our, when he was on the show. Yeah. When we did the, when we did the episode. Yeah. It's just an all time. They're just, they just know, they know the product and they know how to deliver. But let me ask you this, because you played four, you had to play five for work. Are you, so like, you had taken a break from the series. Are you then after this digging into these side ones, like the, you know, like umbrella chronicles and, and mercenaries 3D and things like that? Or is that just like off your, off your radar? Well, here is the thing is, one of the things that I like about this series is that it's one of the, I feel like one of the downfalls of the, so one of the Bennett or one of the, let's try again. One of the highlights of the series is that they are bringing out these AAA games pretty regularly. Yes. Like, like when you consider that there are other major titles that have been coming out over the last 30 years, Final Fantasy games, Final Fantasy has only had 13 mainline titles. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because the, the online games, 11 and 14, aren't, aren't mainline titles. Yeah. I guess they've had 15. No, I don't, whatever, 14. Sure. Doesn't matter. What I'm saying is, that's a series that's been running since the 80s and has one entry per game system, basically. Basically, yeah. And as a result, you can't really, as a, as a player draw, it's like Kingdom Hearts. You can't really form a connection. Yeah. Like a deep connection to the IP, the way you can with Resident Evil, where there's like more games on this list that I've never heard of than there are games on the list that I've played. I counted, there's 30 games over 30 years. Yeah. And that's not a game a year. They take like, but there's sometimes releasing two games every couple of years, which is crazy. And the longest gap between games it looks like is like three years. So it's like, it's not very long. Yeah. So it's, it's, when I would see these games come out, I was like, what is that? Yeah. Like, is that effectively a DLC? Is that like, what, what am I looking at? Or there was a, there's a time where it was like, I felt like all the Resident Evil games were remakes for a window. And I was like, okay, well, I've played Resident Evil one. Do I need to play Resident Evil one remake? Yeah. And I know that that's maybe shutting myself out of or sounds judgmental. Five PM. Five PM. That scared the shit out of me. Why did he take a breath? It is five PM. So he can't tell the time correctly. Why did he take a breath? That, I didn't like that at all. I, it may be because- He took a breath, man. Maybe because we're talking about scary games, a little heightened, maybe I'm a little more scared. That scared the shit out of me. That sucked. Yeah. Five PM. Why did he, why did he inhale? He doesn't have lungs. He has a circular- Branch, did that scare you? That scared me. He hasn't said anything else this whole time. A little behind the scenes, you know, when we're recording the episodes. Five PM. Five PM. Five PM. So, what you been eating lately? Make sure you're getting your veggies. Okay. Kind of, kind of nice information. It is, and it's also very Nick. It is very Nick. Yeah, what you been eating buddy, what you been eating buddy, hope you're getting your veggies buddy. Should a flower be telling you to eat vegetables? Interesting. Interesting. I think so. I can't believe it just gasped and then told us the time. I was on upsetting. Yes. I want to leave. So, Resident Evil 6 features four interwoven campaigns with Leon, Chris, Jake, and Attawong. Attawong? Attawong. I didn't play Resident Evil 6. I don't even know which one it is. Kind of sounds like all my favorites are there. I got to check this one out. But like, four is the high water mark for a long time. I don't really hear much about, I mean I know that revelations and zero and stuff have their fans, but like the mainline ones after this sort of take a steep drop off four and for five and six. Also, like coming off the high of four, five is announced. I remember these moments. Five is announced and you're like, oh shit, here we go. And it doesn't matter if it has good gameplay, the only thing you think is it's racist. Yeah, this is bad. They shouldn't do that. Like what an insane follow-up to be like, we're going to follow up one of the top 10 video games of all time with a game that nobody can even approach without criticism. Yes. Like it's crazy. Really wild stuff. And then yeah, six, Leon comes back. That's what I like about the games though too is that like they have these, I mean to be fair, I've only played the ones with Leon I guess, but they have these rosters of characters that are like, oh this one's a Chris one. Chris is in this one. And they, you know, they're mixing and matching who's in what and stuff. And I think that's, I think it's a lot of fun. They're expanding their roster quite often as well. In particular with this new one with Grace, but I know that in seven and I think eight, you play a new guy called Ethan Winters. Ethan Winters. Which I think pretty cool name actually. Not a bad name. No, it's not bad. It's not any, it's not no Leon as Kennedy. Right. Before seven comes out though, you get Resident Evil Revelations 2, Biohazard The Stage, Umbrella Core, Musical Biohazard, Voice of Gaia, which I don't know anything about. I will do anything to see any amount of footage of that. And then you get Resident Evil 7 Biohazard, so-called Biohazard. This is the game where it, that takes place inside the house. And it's also the VR game. Yeah. And it's like the, it's like, I think the thing in there is that it's not like a virus or anything like that. In particular, it's like a, it's a mold. It's like a, a last of us type mold type thing. I played Resident Evil 7 is when I come back again to the series and it's because it's in VR. So I lock myself into that, that PlayStation helmet. And I start playing Resident Evil 7. Too scary to me. Could not do that. Could not do it, would never dream of it. It's fun. It's fun. I'm gonna wholeheartedly disagree. It's also funny because the VR helmet let you clip through everything. Oh, cool. So like if you're like leaning around stuff, you, you see stuff that's not, you're not supposed to see. So like the first thing you do is you pull up in the car in front of like the house, right? Yeah. You get out of the car, but in the VR helmet, you can lean your head back through the car and see that the keys are still in the ignition. So you've locked yourself out of the car as a character. That's really funny. Like you can, you can like stick your head inside of cabinets. You can stick your head through. Like it's, it's a lot, it's, it's not a flawless geometry in the game for VR. I don't think it was built for VR. And they have to like let you con, like you have to let you move your head around. Is there a VR mode for eight? I don't know. I hope there is. I don't know. I mean, there certainly is an incredibly lovely PSVR 2 for the PlayStation 5 and the PlayStation 5 Pro. It's great, great device. Yeah. Did Sony know that it exists? No, not really. A friend of mine lent me his PS, my buddy Patrick Ellers, host of the Nintendo cartridge society podcast, lent me his PSVR because he was moving and he was like, I have this. I'm basically giving you this. Right. He said, right. He wanted me to try the AstroBot VR game. Yeah. A couple other VR games there. Let me tell you how many times I've opened that box. One time because I got immediately overwhelmed by how much stuff there is in the box. There is a lot of stuff on the PlayStation VR setup. The PlayStation VR 2 has gotten rid of some of the setup. Okay. But I do want to try it. I should, if only to give this back to him. Yeah. Should try it. This was in October when he gave it to me. I was shocked when I got my Steam Deck up and running. Yeah. 90% of my library is VR games. Hmm. I play a lot of VR. I wonder, did it run on Steam Deck? If you have a. I doubt it. Thing for, you know what I mean? I doubt it. Yeah. I doubt it. Anyway. So from there, from Resident Evil 7, we start getting into, let's see, where are we in the timeline of all the resident? We get. This is where the remakes start coming out. Yeah. We get Resident Evil Vendetta, Resident Evil 2 remake, Resident Evil 3 remake, Resident Evil Resistance, and then Resident Evil Village. Yes. And Village is the one with the big girl. Big lady. Yeah. Yeah. I hoped there was a VR vote. Oh no, she chasing me. Oh no, she picked me up and hold me like a baby. I haven't played Big Girl at all. I'm going to play it because I'm now a Resident Evil sicko. And after I'd play 3, I intend to play 7 and then play 8. It's on my to-do. It's happening. I've just looked on Reddit what the Trevor files are. The Trevor files were published outside of the game. If you type them in on Google, you'll find the Trevor files. Look, there's already too many files I'm interested in looking at. I can't add more files to my day-to-day. Then you get Resident Evil Infinite Darkness, Resident Evil 4 remake, which is the only reason we have a segment host. Yes, right. Uh, Resident Evil Death Island. Yes. Which I haven't seen. I want to watch these animated ones. They seem good. Yeah. I don't know if they're good actually. We watched, didn't we watch one for the old format? I think we talked about it. We never, we never got to it. Though we did watch the, did we? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah, we did. We watched one. Did we watch one? We watched one. I know we watched Welcome to Raccoon City. No, but we watched one animated one too. I don't know that we did, Hitler. Did I watch that of my own accord? I think you might have. Why did I do that to myself? Maybe you thought we were going to watch it for the show, then we didn't do it. I think that might have happened. I think you guys might have said maybe we'll do this. We might have pulled the shoot. And then I, and then I was like, okay, I got to do that this Saturday. Yeah. And then we were like, oh, by the way, we're not doing that. That seems possible. Yeah, it seems, it seems possible. Remember when the flower scared the shit out of us? Not just me? Yeah, when it gasped. It gasped to tell the time. It like pulled duct tape off of its own mouth. The fuck. And then we get all the way up to the modern era with the final Resident Evil, Resident Evil Raccoon. Which I just finished. And I think it's a game worth finishing. And I think, look, I just am interested in Leon's story. I'm interested in the story these games tell. Right. Whether they're, whether they make sense or not. Right. But like, I think, I just think Leon is maybe like one of the best video game characters full stop. I think he's just a great character. There's a lot of great moments in Nine. I love what they did with, not just Leon, but with Grace's character of, you know, this has been Talk to Death already, but like just the, the choice to make her sections default first person, to make those moments feel more claustrophobic and more intense and then have Leon's part of the game be like, he just kind of fucking rocks ass no matter what, like who cares. And then you could switch either way and like, you know, have, play Leon in First Person, which I think would be insane to do. I don't know how they would animate a roundhouse kick in First Person. You're like looking at the ground at one point when you do it. But, um. I've seen, I've seen a model swap where people have modded the game to put Grace in the Leon parts and Leon in the Grace parts. It's really charming. That's so funny. Because like seeing Leon like scared and like hiding behind a little box. Yeah, that is fun. Good work. That is fun. Good stuff. But like now, because like this is my first, I guess Resident Evil 4 remake was a launch, Resident Evil that I've played, but I had played that one in theory, right? Like I experienced that game. There wasn't a whole ton of new things in that for me to get other than updated visuals and gameplay. This is my first launch Resident Evil, Resident Evil Requiem. And I think that I'm just like now when a new one comes out, I'm there. Like just no matter what. That's great. Like in the same way now that like when a Final Fantasy game comes out, whenever the next Final Fantasy comes out, Final Fantasy 17, it'll be. I'll be like, I have to see what it, I have to see if it's good. I got to find out if I like it. It is so long in between those games. It's too long. Maybe it's the right amount of long. There've only been three main line unless you count the Vita game or the PlayStation Portable Yeah. Kingdom Hearts game. Yeah. There's only been like four main Kingdom Hearts games in 25 years. Well, that probably is more to do with the Disney of it all though too, right? The IP is probably too big of a nightmare. Maybe. I don't know. Who knows? Because I mean, if they do they, this is going to sound like a dumb question. Those games probably make a lot of money, right? Yeah. I mean, it's like it's it's probably, I would say it's all sections of the Venn diagram. You have the people who like Disney getting those games. You have the people who like RPG, Action RPGs, Final Fantasy, Action RPGs, Square Enix, Action RPGs. And then you have the people who like both. Yeah. The weird sickos. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It has to be an enormous success because they keep making them and also the Keyblade is now showing up in Disneyland. Yes. Yeah. Like that acknowledgement of the sort of impact of the of the franchise is enormous. Yes. It's enormous. Hit him again. Bowser and his butts can't get us here, right? What? You, hold on. You had a you had a tail. You think Bowser is following you? You would you would endanger us by allowing Bowser to follow you to the head gum studio? What? Can you imagine we're sitting here one day? Bowser just walks right in. But also like it's a this has to be a thing for a kid, right? What else? Who is the intended audience? No, you think this you think this talking Nintendo toy? Is for children, you think? So the fact that it doesn't say Bowser can't get us here, but instead it's scaring the children. It says Bowser can't get us here, right? Like it's lower status. It's scared. It's introducing the idea that Bowser can come out of the television and hunt you. Is it lower status or is it giving children the opportunity to be brave and to then be like, and to then be like, actually, you're safe here flower talking flower. Bowser's not going to get us here, actually. And I'm actually pretty brave. And yet if he tried to come here, he'd have to go through me. What does it want a child to think when it says the ocean tastes like tears? Sometimes it's nice to space out. Okay, he said it already. He said it already. He doesn't want it. Maybe that's him saying I'm done talking for a bit. Oh, maybe. Because he's got like something like a million phrases. My ideal version of this thing is that it's, well, one, it's USB-C chargeable. Two, there's a bespoke app for it that then you can get it online on Wi-Fi and they're updating phrases constantly. Right, right. The alarm-o updates. Yes. What is the flower? Baffling. I'll tell you what. Paperweight, if you ask me. I'll tell you what it is. It's going in the box and then going in my attic. I'm going to take the batteries out of it. Also, wild, the clock that you program to make it so that he knows whether or not it's the time that it is is inside the flower pot with a digital face that you can't see when the thing is closed. So you set the time on a clock that is hidden inside of the body of the flower. This thing is a logistical nightmare to me. It's so fucking weird. I was going to ask. Yeah. Just overall, what are your thoughts and what are your feelings about the Resident Evil franchise as a whole? I love Resident Evil 4. No apologies. Yes. Has too many puzzles. Anytime these games lean too hard on the puzzles, it's a turn off. That's just me as a gamer. It has nothing to do with the quality of the games. People are signing up for those experiences and I don't want to like piss on their parade. Have your fun. Enjoy that thing. That's the thing for you. Yes. But I also, I hate the puzzle sequences, the puzzle quotation marks, the puzzle sequences in God of War. All I want is to run around and kill people with the axe and power up. Absolutely. There aren't a lot of puzzles in Kingdom Hearts games. I would go as far to say that I think there might be none. Well, there's like little mini games and things. Like a clock puzzle or something. Or that or there's like those little, you know, those like different colors. In each world, there's like a different color like stamp on the ground or something. And you have to do all of them. And if you're even attempt crafting the ultimate weapon. Right. Come on now. Right. Kingdom Hearts is more of a combat game than God of War is. Well, Kingdom Hearts, amen. There's a take. Look, don't, I can go, I can get there with you. Because the, well, here's what you want. You actually want, you want the God of War experience to be, because there's puzzles in the old ones too. Yeah. But. Yuck. I feel like you're fighting a lot more in those maybe. For sure you are. Right. Because it's like. You're fighting and you're fucking. Yeah, that's right. And they're remaking these things. Good. And I'm just sort of like, I think we talked about this before. They're like, they're now, the remakes are in development, which means we're not going to see these for another. Seven. Four years, seven years maybe. You know what I mean? Yeah. So what they've effectively told me is nothing. Yeah. They basically are like, I got an idea. Yeah. It might not happen. Right. Sony Santa Monica now. Doesn't have a reputation of canceling things that we're aware of. Right. Right. Right. So I think them telling us is a good sign. Yep. But. But. They haven't even fucking started yet. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you tell me? It's also, it's like. How many were done with one and we're waiting to finish the other two? Are they tonally going to be like the first games, which were a lot more like Kratos and his youth like fucking shit up. Yeah. Or are they going to be like, are they going to be the story? Because modern Kratos refers to the events of the games when he's like hanging out with the other characters. When he's like, Mimir, I once killed a god on a mountain top. Yeah. He talks about being in Mortal Kombat, which is canon to him. He does? Yeah. He talks about being in Mortal Kombat? Yeah. Or it's one of those or Soul Calibur. I think I can't remember which one he's in. He's in. Talks about it? Yeah. There's like a, there's a, he tells Mimir. He was like, you know, Mimir is like, do you tell me about this fighting tournament to you? I can't do the accent. It's getting worse. And he, he talks about it. I am angry and delighted. Yeah. It rocks. It's like, but he, but like, I think that the new, the remakes of these, if I had to guess, are going to be more visually consistent with the new ones. Right. If you've been down to the shift in perspective. Right. But it'll be more, it'll probably just, it'll be the same stories, but they're probably just going to adapt it into one large package. Because those, those first couple of games, like I think the first one is like eight or nine hours or something, which is not nothing, but like by God of War, Ragnarok standards. Yeah. Pretty short. Yes. Comparatively. I will say, just to speak on Resident Evil, as a new, as a new resident, Resident Evil, SICKO. Uh-huh. A new resident of the franchise. Yeah. I'm checking in. The new resident has signed his lease on this haunted home. I guess they're not really haunted houses though, are they? It's weird that they, that they changed the name. Biohazard works. Biohazard works. Because yeah, it's a virus. Like why did they, did they change the name from Biohazard to Resident Evil? I get it for the first one. It makes sense. The house is bad. Sure, but you could, But it's not the house. It's not like an Amityville house. You could have still called it Biohazard. Yeah. Like people wouldn't have been like, Oh, have you played Biohazard? What's that? It's the game where you're in this mansion. And then Resident Evil 7 comes out and that one's called Biohazard. Right. They had an opportunity to do Biohazard. What Yakuza like a dragon did. Colon, Resident Evil. Yeah. Now they're like, it's over. Now it's just Resident Evil here, which is fine. I like the name. It does, it does make any sense. No. But you sort of know what you're getting. Right. You know what I mean? And I'll show up for more Resident Evil now forever. I, I, I intend to get through these because also these games are not particularly long. Right. In general, like the, this new one, the in game, did I tell you this already? I can't remember if I did. Oh no, I don't think I did because we haven't talked since we haven't talked to beat it. We haven't talked to beat it. The in game clock said something like 15 hours, like, like under 16 hours to complete the game. Okay. Because you know, it tells you at the end. Right. Like you did it and you did it. You played it on casual. You did it in this amount of time. But the in game clock on the PlayStation tells an entirely different story. Really? It says 30 hours. What? But I'm thinking the truth must lie somewhere in between. Right. But what does that mean? I think that the PlayStation is counting time spent in a pause menu. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because like I'm playing these things, I'm getting scared. I'm pausing and I'm putting the controller down, walking away. So you, you paused for as long as you've played? I guess so. Like if I'm playing, if I'm playing for, let's say I'm sitting down to play for two hours, there's a good chance that I paused for one. Wow. You know what I mean? Wow. Like not entirely, but like total. That is a very different play experience than I have, which is I get my time and I immediately turn off the system. Because I, I'll play, I'll get scared, I'll pause, and then I'll be like, I have to just do something else for a second. Wow. Like I, like, because I get scared playing these things, but I think they're really fun. Yeah. Because like the world of it is funny and like the characters are just, they're great. And the gameplay is just second to none. I think it's some of the best playing games. I bet like just period, just good stuff. If you're playing a game where your character is shooting zombies, I don't think you can get much better than Resident Evil. Right. Because like, I mean, it's, I mean, I, I, I know, I guess the, the infected are different in the last of us. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. That's true. But I feel like they're kind of close because like, I feel like I like the way the different guns feel. They all don't feel like you're just shooting a gun. Right. You feel like when you're shooting the, you know, when you're shooting the. Destroyer or whatever it's called. Yeah. Like the odd or the, or even just like the Requiem gun, like the big gun you get, that thing feels different than your regular pistol. That thing feels different than your rifle. I love the way the rifle feels. The rifle feels good. Good, good, good time. It's good stuff. I've told my gun shooting Resident Evil story on the, on the show before, right? I don't think so. Back when I was a games journalist, Capcom flew me out to Las Vegas and had me try every Resident Evil gun in the real world. Did you get to shoot a rocket launcher? No, I didn't shoot a rocket launcher, but I did shoot a gun that they strapped me into and had a tripod on the base because the bullets were about as long as my human hand. Jesus. Yeah. And they, they put one of those ones like, no, no, no, it's like, it was like a machine gun mounted on a tripod. Yeah. And then there was a guy who behind me bracing me with his arms because of the kickback on the gun. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know which, I think it must have been Resident Evil five that I was doing this for. But yeah, the guns in Resident Evil feel like they do in the real world. That's crazy. Yeah. I wouldn't want to do it in real life. I'd be too scared. We were shooting zombie targets. Crazy. Yeah, it was a whole thing. Yeah. Do you think you could do it? Do what? Put the gun in my mouth. No. Survive the, if you had the weapons. Stories trick us into thinking that survival is a choice. I think all of these stories are actually about lucky people who then believe that they're in a story. But. They're rats in the water. Yeah. They, these, like Ellie is not in a story. No, she's lucky. The reason she's alive is that she didn't walk into a house and a board with nails in it didn't fall on her head. Yes. Like there's so much danger in the apocalypse. Like there, no, I don't think you could give me every gun there is on planet earth. I would die from poisoning by touching like old paint. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I, that's, you know, we, I feel like we've said this before. If there is a something. Yeah. After we can look back on your life after once it's over. Right. I would like to know how close I had come to death before I actually died. It'd be interesting information. You mean like to see the dialogue tree of your existence effectively except all of the, all of the, you know, if you'd, because I've been in some near miss car accidents. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Like just the idea of like how close, how close was it? Yeah. Because I mean it's not information you could appreciate now. Right. I guess it could. To see the multiverse path of how many times you almost got killed on the street. Yeah. Yeah. It's just interesting. Yeah. Well, Resident Evil, we love you. We love you, Resident Evil. And thank you so much for 30 years of Resident Evil. Keep 30, 30 more years. I say. 30 more. God, when video games are having 60 year anniversaries, I bet Pong is, how old is Pong? It must be 50. Pong. Let's see. This is the type of thing Nick is good at here. Yeah. Typing in a Google. Nick would have said Pong. Remember to eat your vegetables. Yeah. Pong came out in 1972. Oh my God. 54 years. 54. 54. Yeah. 54. Ah. Should we do a segment? I would love to do a segment. All right. Well, hey, good thing you did that because it's time for a Segment Dreamcast. Segment Dreamcast. Today, I know that I know that Zach Kregler is making a Resident Evil movie, but he's not making a straight adaptation of a Resident Evil movie. Right. So today we're going to cast Resident Evil 4. Okay. Using the cast of, you know, the characters from the movie, which I think will be a lot of fun. So first, obviously we have Leon S. Kennedy. Leon S. Kennedy. We got to cast the star of this thing. I have a radical take. I have, I bet the same take, but let's hear it. I want to hear yours. I want to hear yours first. I was going to say Timothy Chalamet. Oh, I was going to say Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, DiCaprio. Because he's kind of got similar hair and they're kind of the same age. Okay. Well, he, yeah, he's sort of the same age of Leon in Requiem. Oh, you're doing four. I'm doing four. Okay. I'm doing four. Okay. So young Kennedy. So young Kennedy, I'm kind of thinking that like the reason I pull Chalamet, Jesus Christ. He's, he's quite young still too. Right. He's not even 30. He's not, he just turned 30. He did? Yeah. And I think in Resident Evil four, Leon is like my age, like 30, maybe he's like 34 or something. I think you give him, you give him a little hair. What about, okay, what about Carmi? Oh. What if, what if you ask Carmi as, Carmi, Carmi from Bear. Yeah. From Leon, as Leon as Kennedy. And I certainly know his name. Carmi. Carmi from Bear. From the Bear. Carmi from Bear. Whoa. What is his name? Oh, Jeremy Allen White. Yeah. Does he not, does he look too goofy? I don't think he looks too goofy. I think you kind of want somebody, you kind of want someone who's going to have a little more fun than I think he would have. I think Timmy's going to have a little fun. Yeah. Timmy will have fun. Whereas Jeremy Allen White won't have any fun. Because you're, you're essentially casting, you're casting almost an ash type, right? Like an ash from Evil Dead. He's not as funny as ash. Right. But he knocks out a couple little jokes here and there. Right. And Timmy can sell a joke. What about, you know who I saw on a, a clip of on a red carpet? Spider himself, Jack Champion, said that he wants to play Leon in a movie. Jack Champion. Jack Champion. How, how old is he? He's older now. No, he doesn't look like Leon. Go to this one ranch over here from Wikipedia. It's a second row, fourth one to the, to the right. Yeah. I think he could do it. Yeah. I mean, he looks, he definitely looks like Leon. He certainly looks more like Leon than Timothy Shalamet. Yeah. I would say so. He might be our best. I mean, because look, we can't keep casting Austin Butler and all these. But Austin Butler would be right. But Austin Butler would be pretty good. He'd be right. He's really good. Okay. That's the winner for me. Austin Butler. Austin Butler. Yeah. I mean, he has an unfair advantage because as soon as you see him, you want him to do whatever. You're like, he's, he's, he's very handsome. He's a Val Kilmer type. Yeah. He's like, he's just too. I bet you he's funny. I'm sure he's funny too. Well, we got, you know, put this picture of the two of them, because it's going to be down to them too. Ranch pulled up a picture of Austin and Timothy chatting. And one would love to hear their conversation. More than anything, want to hear these two guys chat. But I think, I think. When you look at these two guys though, next to Leon, it's, it's so clearly Austin Butler. Yeah. I think, well, look, they're going to make, because the stuff for Dune 3 is coming out. Yep. Paula Trady's is going to be tough shit in this thing. Yeah. I think, I think the conversation we're going to have about Timmy now is going to be different than after when that movie comes out. Okay. Because like he got there, he got some of the way there in, in Marty Supreme. You know what I mean? Okay. Like he, I think, I think he's got, I think he's got something. He's got an inner darkness. My hard vote is Austin Butler. Well, yeah. But we'll keep them both up on the list because that's, that's who you think could play Leon S. Kennedy is Timothy Chalamet. Who's next on the list? Next we have, we have Ashley Graham, who is the president's daughter, of course. I think you've got a strong case for Anya Taylor Joy. Anya Taylor Joy could be good. Anya might be, well, she's about probably same age as Austin Butler, but I kind of, I kind of read Ashley as more of a, as a younger girl. She's younger. Right? She's younger. Oh shoot. What is her name from Detective Pikachu that played the girl? The girl from Detective Pikachu. What the fuck? She's in the new Reddy or not movie also. I think she's really good. Oh yeah. Catherine Newton. Yes. Catherine Newton as Ashley Graham could be pretty good because then she could, she could play. That's it. She could probably play it a little like, oh no, I'm scared. But then you give her, maybe in the movie. Yeah. You give her a little bit of a moment where she gets to be a bad ass of it actually. That's who it is. You've nailed it. We got, we got Catherine Newton. You could also do Elle Fanning. Elle Fanning would be great. Oh, Elle Fanning would be great. Yeah. Elle Fanning could also be Ashley Graham. Yeah. This is good. Elle Fanning is really fun. She seems, she seems fun. Yeah. She was so good in sentimental value. I got to watch it. I haven't seen it yet. Woof. Such a good movie. She was really great in Death Stranding too. Yeah. She's great in Death Stranding too. I think the one thing I've seen her in, I just, I enjoy her when she's making, when she's doing red carpet things. Yeah. She's star of, she's star of my wife's movie, The Neon Demons. Yeah. She's great. All right. Up next we've got. We got Luis Cera. Luis Cera. And I got, look, we can't put Pedro. No. We can't put Pedro. No. Oscar Isaac too old. Also I think. Yeah. I was just thinking of who the hunks are. Who were the hunks? Who were the hunks, you know what I mean? Okay. I think we could maybe do, type in Danny Ramirez. Danny Ramirez. Danny Ramirez. He's in The Last of Us TV show. Oh yeah. He's also the new Falcon in the Marvel movies. There you go. I'm kind of thinking of who's going to be, who's doing franchise stuff. Yeah. To, you know what I mean? This guy, so far I also, I got to say, possibly one of the hottest cast's ever assembled for this big. Well yeah. We've got three people in and this movie is. I'm sweating. Is already a calendar. Yeah. This is crazy. All right. Who's next? I think that's a great pick for Luis Cera. Yeah. I think he's great. Ada Wong. Ada Wong. I got it. I got it. Who? Type in Gemma Chan for me. Will you ranch? Gemma Chan. Come on. Yeah. I mean. Come on. I'm stacking the deck with hotties here. I don't know what to do. How do you have all these people in your head? I had to, I made the, I made the segment. I had to think about it a little bit. Yeah. No, Gemma Chan. Gemma Chan. That's it. That's an Ada Wong ass haircut if I've ever seen one. Hey, hey. Come here. Just wanted to say hi. Okay. Bye. Talking Flower, you cannot talk to Gemma Chan like that. You cannot, can't call Gemma Chan. That was insane. We all agree that was insane, right? What? He just said, come here. Hey, hey, come here. Come here. I just want to say hi. I just want to say hi. Gemma Chan from. It said two things on its own this entire time. One has been the time. And then one has been to cat call. Ranch just put a photo of Gemma Chan over Ada Wong's face. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. Yep. Also Ranch, take a screenshot of that and send it to me. No, don't do it. She's doing it. We're watching her do it. Do you have a thread? Drag it into the chat with no context. Nick's going to be like, nice. Okay, great. Okay, who's up next? Jack Krauser. Jack Krauser. One of the villains, one of the enemies of this game. I mean, isn't that the guy from 24? Oh, you want Kiefer Sutherland in this thing? Isn't that Sutherland? Isn't that who it's supposed to be? You got Sutherland? I kind of, okay. Yeah, we could get somebody like that in there. Maybe not. Maybe young Kiefer. Because he's also kind of jacked too. Yeah, he's a fucking jacked dude. You kind of like, but like somebody like Dave Batista doesn't have the face, like has the face for it. But he's, and he's also slimmed down a little bit. But I also, look, if you put Batista in this thing, you're going to get a performance. He's fucking good. Yeah, for sure. But Jack Krauser is, you need like some like, the guy who plays the Harkinen in Dune, who's completely, no, he's completely bald and not in the bathtub, but the guy who fights him with the dagger. I already, well actually, I got it. Okay. I don't know what his name is though. Oh, I think it's Alan Richardson from Jack Reacher, the Amazon show Jack Reacher. Alan Richardson. Richardson, Alan Richardson. Oh, Jack Reacher. He's fucking huge. He's the biggest man alive. Yeah, I mean, if you were fighting against a dude and that dude, and like this guy comes around a corner, you're like, oh fuck. Yeah, you stupid, I watched, sometimes I get, I have not seen a second of the show, but sometimes I get clips of the show on TikTok of him doing awesome stuff. He's in line at an ATM in one of these clips, and this woman in front of him at the ATM is like crying and shaking, nervously looking over to her car. And he realized that she's being robbed and he goes over to the car. And fucks up the guy in the driver's seat. Good stuff. I got to watch this show. It seems good. Matt, I'll tell you right now. Yeah. I watched the entire first season of Jack Reacher with my wife. We absolutely loved it. Oh, it's cool to see a big guy do big guy stuff. It was such a blast. We fell off on the second season because we were like, this is not, what was cool about Jack Reacher for season one is, it's normal persons and Jack Reacher. So everyone was constantly like, what are you doing? And he'd be like, I'm bending this fire hydrant in half. But the second one, it's all people who know what he's capable of and nobody's phased by it. Yeah. So nobody is like, stop, you can't eat a bumper. And he's like, they're just like, oh, Jack, why don't you eat that bumper? And he's like, got it. Yeah. I mean, the thing about it is he's so big that like, even if you weren't doing anything to get in trouble, upon sight, you should be screaming in terror. Yeah. He's so big. The first one's great. It's like, I mean, it's not this, but it's like, you know, he gets shot twice and people are like, are you okay? And he's like, I don't, it takes three bullets to equal one bullet in me. Yeah. I also like, he's just like insane. I also like him as a guy because he's like online yelling at the people who really like his show that like their politics are bad. And I'm just like, okay, a guy that looks like that could go either way. Yeah. But he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's like, don't be a fucking asshole. Like, he's good. He's good. Yeah. Alan Richardson. Great. For Jack Krauser. Up next. Maybe just like it. We got this. Look, Ramon Salazar. That's Timothy Chalamet. We can get Timothy in there. Timothy would have a blast eating that up, I think. Yeah. Honestly, it's Timothy. Yeah. That's Timothy. Yeah. We got Timothy in there. Timothy, but Timothy's not little. He just seems little, I think. I think he's like 5'11 or something. Sure. Sure. But that's who it is. Yeah. Look at that guy. Yeah. He would crush it. He'd kill it. Yeah. Great. Up next, we've got... The merchant, of course. The merchant. And I think we got to go with the as himself on this. Yeah. The merchant is the merchant. Yeah. Because otherwise... Otherwise he'll die at Intelligencia right now. Yeah. Yeah, where he's hanging out. Or he's asking if he could plug in his rotary telephone. Yeah. Could I charge my phone? We got, we'll get him, we'll get the merchant for the merchant. Otherwise, you know who I think would be good? Stephen Merchant. Do you know, the merchant's extremely tall. Stephen Merchant, I've seen him in person. I saw him at the Grove. I think he's possibly the tallest man I've ever seen. I'm going to pitch somebody for the merchant. And that's Peter Serafinowitz. Paris, Serafinowitz. Because Peter Serafinowitz is extremely tall. He loves video games. Oh. He does great voices and he's going to be fully costumed. Yes. That's good. So I think Serafinowitz as the merchant. Serafinowitz would crush it and you can give him a couple little jokes too. Yeah, of course. I'd buy that for a high price. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'd kill it. Yeah. Absolutely. I like that the picture that Ranch has chosen is the one where he looks the most like Don Draper. Yeah, he's a handsome guy. Look, we're going for the hottest cast possible. Yeah. And we're still, and we're continuing that streak. Okay, yeah, get this goofy looking one. Yeah. The one where he's at interview for Dark Souls. Who's our final cast member? Our final cast member is Wesker. Albert Wesker. And I have two takes on this. One is Tom Cruise, but Tom Cruise from Collateral. Matt, I won't lie. It is exactly what I was going to pitch to you. Right? Yeah. Tom Cruise from Collateral's fucking got it. Yeah. He's still kind of like young Tom Cruise. So he's still like, he's probably the hottest he's ever been in this. Yeah. 20 years ago, Tom Cruise. Yeah. But my other take is Miles Courage himself, Stephen Lang. But Stephen Lang is older than Tom Cruise. He's older than Tom, he's older than Tom Cruise, but I kind of think of Wesker as a bit of an old guy anyway. He's not so old in this. I think Tom Cruise young or Tom Cruise in the right mode is the scariest, most intense dude. Oh yeah. He's fucking terrifying in Collateral. I think it's his best performance. It's so good. Doesn't get the credit, I think. Jamie Foxx obviously nominated for best supporting actor for that movie, but I think that a lot of that is who you're acting against. Right. And Tom Cruise should have also been nominated for that thing. Yeah. But somehow the hardware eludes him. What does he won for? Did he win an Academy Award? It was for... Magnolia? No. What did he win for? Was it for the one, the Ron Howard Irish movie? Was it Born on the Fourth of July? No. He was awarded it... No, he was awarded a Lifetime Achievement Award. Yeah, he doesn't have one for acting. Yeah, it was his first ever Oscar was for Honorary Academy Award. Holy shit. Yeah. Tom Cruise has never won an Oscar. He should have one for acting. And I know people don't like him. Yeah, I know. He's a tough hang. He's been nominated four times. Born on the Fourth of July, Jerry Maguire, Magnolia, and Top Gun Maverick as producer. I'm surprised he didn't win for... Like Magnolia. Magnolia. Yeah. But even Jerry Maguire was like kind of nothing stopping him. Who was he up against? Can you search Best Supporting Actor 2000 and see who he was up against? Because I bet somebody else who was more deserving won. Michael Cain went from Sirehouse. Fuck, it's Michael Cain. You can't. You can't. But he certainly has won, right? He has probably more than won Michael Cain. Yeah. But Sirehouse rules must be great. It was Michael Cain, Tom Cruise, Michael Clark Duncan, Jude Law, and Hailey Joel Osmunt. That's a pretty good category. That's really good. Fuck, Hailey Joel Osmunt was so good. Yeah, he was great in that movie. He's kinda great in everything. Honestly, I think it should have been him. When I look at that category, I think he's stunning. I remember when he was, I mean, this was the year 2000, so I was like nine or 10. But I remember when he was nominated, we were close enough in age. I think he was maybe a year or two older than me. Where because he was nominated, I was like, wow, a little kid could be nominated. But yeah, Tom Cruise as his character from Collateral as Albert Wesker is pretty good. It's an excellent poem. They have the same hair in the movie. Yeah, they look the same. Yeah. They look scary. Yeah. Imagine Albert Wesker running at you full speed. Yeah. The fastest man alive. What do you have to say about that flower? I think you're neat. Don't be smart. You know, with a million phrases, he's repeating an awful lot. Yeah. Does he really have a million? Does it boast one million phrases? I don't know how many phrases the talking flower has. I gotta look it up now. How many phrases does the talking flower from Nintendo have? It says over 100. That is. We've heard two repeats. That is worse than like a fucking talking watch. Yeah, that's dog shit. Sorry. That's worse than I can imagine. Yeah. Well, sorry for talking flower. You will not be asked back. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Reddit says that is not correct. Reddit says 7,300 phrases. That's actually horrifying. Over 100, not so good. 7,300. Too many, actually. Wow. I'm sorry. You will be back. We will invite you back. That was a segment Dreamcast. And that was This Week's Get Played. Yes. Our show's music is done by Ben Prunty. BenPruntyMusic.com. Our art is by Art Brigade. Art. Our art. Our art. Our art. Our art. Our art. Our art. Is by Duck Brigade. Is by Duck Brigade Design. Duck BrigadeDesign.com. Our production is done by. Rachelle Chen Ranch. Yard underscore. Underscore. Sorry. Ranch. What are you streaming? I know you screamed and you screamed. Outlast. With your pal, Joe. What else are you streaming? Still working on Resident Evil Requiem. Nice. Great. Nice. Great. Are you going to get Joe back in the mix for some more Outlast? I think so. And I'm also going to have her come back for Resident Evil 9 for a specific part I definitely don't want to play. Spiders. Ranch don't like spiders. Ranch doesn't like spiders. Ranch is going to be really upset next week when our guest is a thousand spiders. I think Sturmenator come because it had an ant situation. And the first thing he did was he goes, wow, you got a lot of black widows here. And we were like, what? Yeah. How do you know? And he's like, he was like, you got a lot. So this kind of web here that you see here that you see here, those are all black widow webs. And we were like, oh my God. And he's like, I'd say looking at this house, you got a lot more spiders than you got ants. But we're seeing ants all the time. But spiders. Spiders make themselves known when they have to. That's true. They kind of move in silence like lasagna. Yes. Do you think there's any spiders in here, Ranch? Probably. Isn't there like 250 spiders on your skin at any given moment? Like micro spiders? I think the average human is made of spiders. What do you think of Spider-Man? He's fine. Hmm. Yeah. Said with much trepidation. Yeah, like a slow. Not quite sure. He's and not even I like him. He's fine. We've got merch. So check out our merch at kinshipgoods.com. kinshipgoods.com maybe slash get played. Not sure kinshipgoods.com for our merch. We've also got a Patreon show get played DLC where we're talking about all kinds of things. It could be anime. It could be video games. It could be movies. It could be food. Matt, what are we talking about this week? This week it's a Super Question Block Turbo Deluxe Edition all about everyone's third favorite console, the Xbox. We're answering your questions about the Xbox on this week's Get Played DLC. You can find that at patreon.com slash get played. You can check us out on discorddiscord.gg slash get played. I feel like this week talking flower got played. Is it weird for flowers to talk? You've repeated so fucking much. What a disappointment you are. I am embarrassed to have purchased you. I am embarrassed to call you a friend. I'm going to turn you into mulch you little bitch. What do you have to say about that? We kind of look alike, huh? That was a hate gun podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore. Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast That Was Us Now on Head Gum. Each episode we're going to go into a deep dive from our show This Is Us. That's right. We're going to go episode by episode. We're also going to pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors. Are we going to cry? Yes. A little bit. Are we going to laugh? A lot. A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to That Was Us on your favorite podcast app or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify, new episodes every Tuesday.