The Best PS5 Games of All Time - Kinda Funny Gamescast
64 min
•Apr 3, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Blessing and Greg analyze Polygon's updated list of the 25 best PS5 games, discussing which titles made the cut, debating omissions like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and Silk Song, and exploring how third-party games versus exclusives shape PlayStation's library perception.
Insights
- PS5's library lacks the volume of 'must-play' releases compared to previous PlayStation generations, making curated lists increasingly valuable for consumers
- Third-party games dominate 'best of' lists, raising questions about what defines a 'PlayStation game' and whether exclusivity should matter for platform recommendations
- Sequel fatigue affects perception: acclaimed PS5 sequels (God of War Ragnarök, Ghost of Yotei) receive less cultural conversation than their predecessors despite critical success
- Live service games like Hell Divers 2 succeed when built on franchise foundations rather than chasing trends, contrasting with failed attempts like Concord
- Indie and 'little guy' games increasingly compete for top-25 spots, reflecting broader industry shift toward diverse game design beyond AAA blockbusters
Trends
PS5 mid-cycle fatigue: fewer blockbuster exclusives and slower release cadence compared to PS4 generationThird-party parity: multiplatform games now dominate 'best of' lists, diminishing exclusive advantage for platform marketingLive service consolidation: only Hell Divers 2 achieves mainstream success; most PlayStation live service bets have failedIndie game legitimacy: games like Animal Well, Cocoon, and Tunic compete equally with AAA titles on critical listsSequel conversation decay: acclaimed sequels lose cultural momentum faster than original entries despite similar critical receptionCross-platform play expectations: players increasingly expect games on multiple platforms, reducing exclusivity appealRoguelike design evolution: iterative improvements in roguelike mechanics (Hades 2, Star Wars Outlaws) becoming expected standardNarrative innovation in action games: story-driven experiences like Disco Elysium and Alan Wake 2 gaining prominence over traditional gameplay focus
Topics
PS5 Game Library CurationExclusive vs. Third-Party GamesLive Service Game Success MetricsSequel Reception and Cultural FatigueIndie Game Industry GrowthPlayStation 5 Mid-Cycle AssessmentGame Awards and Critical ConsensusRoguelike Game Design EvolutionNarrative-Driven Game DesignCross-Platform Game AvailabilityPlayStation First-Party Studio PerformanceVideo Game Journalism and List-MakingPlayer Expectations for Next-Gen GamingMultiplatform Release StrategyGame Discovery and Recommendation Systems
Companies
Polygon
Published the 25 best PS5 games list being analyzed; updated March 3, 2026
Sony Interactive Entertainment
PS5 platform holder; subject of discussion regarding exclusive game strategy and mid-cycle performance
Remedy Entertainment
Developed Alan Wake 2, praised for consistent quality and delivering on long-awaited sequel
FromSoftware
Developed Elden Ring, considered top-tier PS5 game and potential #1 title by hosts
Larian Studios
Developed Baldur's Gate 3, expected inclusion on best PS5 games lists
Insomniac Games
Developed Spider-Man 2 and Ratchet & Clank; discussed regarding PlayStation exclusive performance
Santa Monica Studio
Developed God of War Ragnarök, cited as premiere PS5 first-party exclusive
Sucker Punch Productions
Developed Ghost of Yotei; discussed regarding sequel reception and cultural conversation
Arrowhead Game Studios
Developed Hell Divers 2, praised as successful live service game built on franchise foundation
Rockstar Games
GTA VI mentioned as upcoming major PS5 release expected to define console's library
CD Projekt Red
Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 version discussed as redemption arc with Phantom Liberty expansion
Microsoft/Xbox Game Pass
Forza Horizon 5 availability on PS5 discussed; represents third-party dominance trend
Bandai Namco
Published Tekken and other fighting games; Street Fighter 6 discussed as PS5 fighting game
Capcom
Resident Evil Requiem included on Polygon's list; discussed as recent major PS5 release
Square Enix
Final Fantasy XIV and Final Fantasy VII Rebirth discussed; VII Rebirth notably absent from list
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth discussed as consistent franchise performer on PS5
Atlus
Metaphor: ReFantazio discussed as major JRPG success; Persona 6 speculation mentioned
Supergiant Games
Hades and Hades 2 discussed regarding roguelike design evolution and PS5 availability
People
Blessing Adioia Jr.
Co-host of Kinda Funny Gamescast analyzing Polygon's PS5 games list
Greg Miller
Co-host of Kinda Funny Gamescast; provides game recommendations and analysis
Oli Welsh
Lead author of Polygon's 25 best PS5 games list analyzed in episode
Kieran Culkin
Discussed as Oscar-winning actor in Succession and Severance; brother of Macaulay Culkin
Rory Culkin
Third Culkin brother discussed; appeared in Signs, Scream 4, and Black Mirror
Willow Smith
Discussed as talented Smith sibling; praised for music quality and evolution across albums
Russ Frushtick
Polygon reviewer who wrote Animal Well review; part-time Kinda Funny employee
Tim Gettys
Mentioned as away on jury duty; typically co-hosts Kinda Funny shows
Nick Scarpino
Called in for jury duty; mentioned as part of Kinda Funny hosting rotation
Bear
Director of Kinda Funny Gamescast; manages show production and guest coordination
Sean Penn
Mentioned in context of Oscars presentation and Ukraine president meeting
Quotes
"PS5 hasn't been deluged with classics and the rate of must play new releases is slower than it has been on previous playstations"
Polygon (from list description)•Early in episode
"Hell Divers 2 doesn't feel like chasing a trend. When we talk about PlayStation and Jim Ryan, and we're going to have all these live service games, it felt like you were making this announcement. And then what we saw was trying to become Overwatch, trying to become Fortnite."
Greg Miller•Mid-episode discussion
"The extraordinary becomes ordinary. I think in so many different ways. Yote, we talked a lot at review, obviously, of how much we loved it. But then I do feel like conversation cooled quite a bit on it."
Blessing Adioia Jr.•Discussing sequel fatigue
"If you're making personal lists, they start to get weird. Of course, like immortality would be on my list. Is that a list that would go on a polygon or is that a game that would go on an IGN or a polygon thing? Probably not."
Blessing Adioia Jr.•Discussing list curation differences
"God of War Ragnarok is kind of the premiere for that, for me of this generation. Like this lives up to when you think of prestige, PlayStation, like firing on all cylinders."
Greg Miller•Discussing PS5 exclusives
Full Transcript
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You know what I mean? Like how are the shoulders feeling? Somebody needs to worry about how is the mind? This is my last day in the office. Oh yeah, you're leaving break next week. No, Greg, darn, no, Tim, darn, Nick's, Garpeño got called in for jury duty today. Will there be a jury duty? Nick's, Garpeño next week. My time to play junior to fully run this company. I look to you to keep all these kids in line. That's what you said last time when you left to your like, bear, the ship's right. Keep the ship straight. What do we call next week? You know, do we call it the kids week? The new, the new, the adult are out of the room. Like how do, because we gotta celebrate. Yeah, we gotta celebrate. The kids take over. The daddies have gone out for smokes. Ooh, ooh, barely 18 week. No, no. All right. Okay. Randy pitcher. She was a magician. She was like magic when she did it, you know, we'll figure it out. Bear, I need you to just do on that. Casper's got a great one from chat. Home alone week. I like that. I like starting place. That's a good starting place. I do like that. Macaulay Culkin and his brother. Yeah, Kieran. Yeah. Can you believe that? Dial it by you probably not even born yet, but dial it back. We're all watching home alone and home alone too. And Macaulay Culkin's taking off and then it's like, Oh, did you know that he would, the big glasses in there is his brother? And it's like nepotism. Yeah. Why? He's just riding his brother's coat. And now that guy, he's fucking got it. Now he's in it. Now like, now he's doing so many things. He's getting so many. He got to name the thing. He got an Oscar. What is it in Severance? He's got to succession. This session. I screwed up all the time. How many brothers are there? Is there more than two? Or is it just two? I thought it was just the two. Okay. Cause for some reason I thought there was a third Culkin brother that was in succession. I keep forgetting that it's Kieran. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's an Oscar winner. He presented at the Oscars this last one. He was pretty good. He presented the Oscar for that one Wow. One battle after another dude that didn't show up. Oh yeah. Yeah. And people were mad at him for saying that. But he was doing it because he was hanging out with the president of Ukraine. Yeah. No, it was good. Yeah. Sean Penn. Yeah. Last time I'm going to, I'm going to hold on. Let me uh, let me breaking news. Let me bring myself up to you to whisper in your ear. Sir, we have learned that there, there is a third. Okay. That's what I thought. What's the third brother's name? Rory. Is he actor? Is he just like living? I think he's an actor. Yeah. He does, he does the acting. Trying to say black mirror. He was in scream four. He was in black mirror. Yeah. That's what I thought. Cause yeah, there's another one. Does Rory also look like them? Because they all, I mean, they all look like brothers. They all look like brothers is really what I thought. This man does not look like them. Yeah. He doesn't look like them. Oh yeah, he does. He's got the eyes. He looks like the middle evolution of the other two. He's the second. He 100% looks like the middle evolution of Karen. Okay. What's up with the name? Okay. He was in signs. He was the boy in signs. Was he really? Yeah. I'm looking at signs right here and I see signs. I'm going to say signs again, but I have one more time. Signs and he's done stuff since then, huh? Really? Yeah. Scream four. Somebody says that was so many screams ago. Columbus. Like does he not? Is he still acting? Scarlett Liebrinch has this like finding out there's a fourth Jonas brother. Jonas brother. I'll do you one better. There is a third Smith sibling. There's Willow. And there's a third one. And like that's nuts. That's like life being unfair to a certain extent. Where like my two siblings are Jaden Smith and Willow Smith. Like they're so talented and like not that I'm sure the third sibling is talented in his own way, but like they're like on another level as far as the things that they're doing. But now I just didn't like you. You know, I don't need the fire. I don't need the light, you know, like, I'll let them take it. Yeah. Not everybody's. Like, Will Smith is out here. Will Smith is legitimately like one of my favorite musical artists. And she's done a song other than the song I was just singing. Yeah. Cause I love that song. Oh dude. And her music's only gotten better because that was from the first album that I listened to. Is it lately? I feel everything. I forget the name of that album, but there's that one. And then she has another album that's even way better. And then she has another album that's even way better. 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But I'm glad to have you for this one. Come on, a PlayStation. It's a PlayStation one and we're doing an unranked list. So it's going to be more about the free form conversation, which I think is going to fit me and you better. Like that. Yeah. Of course, a shit list is where I go online. I find a top 10 list and I bring it back to the crew for your amusement. Today's list is not a top 10 list. It's a top 25 list unranked coming from Polygon, the 25 best PlayStation five games. This was written by Oli Welsh and the Polygon staff published March 4th, 2026 at 1122 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. I'm adding an addendum to that because as I read through the first few paragraphs of this, I don't think this is the first publishing of this list. They updated. They updated it. Yeah. I remember when Bear put in the slack or whatever. Yes. Bear Courtney, what's up? No, I'm just I'm just hanging. You're hanging up because we're going to get into the conversation and get into the speculation. Greg, before we get into the list, yeah, us as hosts, Bear it as a director, Bear it is. Bear it is. Bear it is. We like to speculate about what is going to be on the list. Greg, for you, what are what's in the shortlist of best PS five games? Well, so can you read the description? Is it not exclusive? So right? Is it just games that are on them? What are the best games on PS five? Hard as it is to believe the PS five is by Sony's own admission already well past the halfway point of his life cycle. It's even time to start thinking about the PS six. It's fair to say that PS five hasn't been deluged with classics and the rate of must play new releases is slower than it has been on previous playstations, which I want to have a conversation about. Sure, I love that. Thank you. What's sure to be the console's defining game? GTA six isn't even out until later this year. That could also be a whole conversation. Even so, the PS five's library has grown to the extent that there's a lot to sort through and new and old PS five owners will be wondering what to play. So here's our living list of the best video games we've played on the platform. Just period. The best video games we've played on the platform influenced by the personal taste of the polygon team to be updated as more games come out. And then they end this with our latest update to this list is on March 3rd and they added a new game. Got it. I'll give you up. There are a few I mean, God of Ragnarok. I mean, like I mean, I can toss this stuff out. Spider-Man two. Polygon, you know, I got to get you got to get in their head. You know, it's maybe Astro Bot. Yeah, I was thinking maybe Miles Morales over to Miles Morales like launch at the PS five. I agree. You know, I'm a big Miles Morales fan here, unlike some people at the desk. You know, what's funny is that you guys are starting on the exclusive side. And when I think of the best games on PlayStation 5, I don't even think of the exclusive. So what you're going to do, of course. OK, Claire of Scare. Elvin Ring, metaphor. Claire of Scare, metaphor. Baldur's Gate 3. Yeah, bring it back to exclusive. Yeah, yeah. Returnal, which I'm surprised you didn't start with. I mean, it should be on the list. Yeah, I'll be honest with you. But the way this generation has gone, it's so hard for me to figure out exclusive sometimes where I would you would have said returnal. I'm like, yeah, PlayStation 5. I would have thought PlayStation 4 for some reason. I know that doesn't make sense. I know how it technically advanced was. Rain drops on the controller. But then like, are we putting in like a last of us? No. Part one. Are we? No. Yeah. No. Absolutely not. Not polygon. No. He's fart smelling polygon. Now. We're sitting. I kind of faced them rebirth. I think it's on the list. I put rebirth on there more than Spiderman. Spiderman has to be the list. Because that's like the most PlayStation game. But like rebirth is fucking incredible. Do you think Demon's Souls made it? Oh, that's a good question. Do you think Bugsnax made it? No. Do you think they update this on Tuesday and put Starfield on it? No. No. Oh, hey, if we're being real, though, it's not going to be on the list. I'll tell you right now. It's not going to be on the list. But if we're being real, Forza Horizon 5 should be on the list. That's what I'll say. I'll stay. I like that. Forza Horizon 5. Because when did that come out? Was that last year? That was last year. On PS5. It's not going to be on the list. 25. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Someone says Sifu. I feel like we're all like, we're like one of the very few outlets that like really rocked with Sifo. Sifu like that. Yeah. It just fucked up. That came to me. Are they counting like upgrades? PS5 versions? I don't think you. Was there a Witcher 3 PS5 version? Or was there just an upgrade? There was. There was a PS5 version of Witcher 3? Right? It was like a remaster. I don't even know if they called it remaster. But I remember us having a moment when they put it on PS5 in December. Yeah. I think we're going to play it. They do. And it's like PS4 and PS5. What does that fucking mean? Yeah. Yeah. There was like a next. There was a next-end upgrade. OK. I don't know if it was a. Is there a standalone PS5 version? Yeah. The complete edition is PS4, PS5. So I guess that's. I'm typing in forza horizon 5. I like that. It gets cold with it. It gets cold. I mean, should I write down seafood? Do we think seafood's on the list? I do not think seafood's on the list. Unfortunately. I would love to be wrong. If we're making kind of funny's personal list, I think it's on there. Oh, yeah. What? Little John. What? What? And it came. Oh, so this is March you said? They updated it? Yes. They updated it last month. Do we do you know already what it is? I do know. Is it Resident Evil? It is Resident Evil. Yeah. So we can type down Resident Evil. OK, OK, OK. I would love to know what this was originally published, though, you know, you know what? If Resident Evil Requiem is on there, Alan Wake, too, is on there. That's a great call. Yeah. I was also wondering like Greg already said it out Claire obscure. I'm wondering blueprints. Oh, I know blueprints was kind of everywhere, but like I associate that with PlayStation. I don't associate with anybody with it. I don't associate it with anything, but I do think it's a good pick. I'm writing down I'm writing down blueprints. Greg Miller, split fiction. Oh, more than it takes to. Yeah. Well, now he's down. Yeah. Well, I mean, we were talking. We're just brainstorming here. I'd go it take two. I would go it takes two as well. And I guess also it makes sense. How many of the year? How often are they updating this? That's the other thing I don't know. You don't know. Yeah. One that I want to shout out because it's up there for me. I don't think it'll be on this list. Armored Core six fires. Damn. Oh, that's a good pick. That's a good pick. It's a good pick. I mean, I don't know if it's going to be on there. I don't think it's going to be on there. Spall to seven one four. How about fortnight? Now you that's one of those moves, man. That's a move. I don't think that's a polygon move. I know I'm that's what we're having a conversation. I should shout out, of course, if you are watching live, you have the option to super chat in. The Super Chat question for today's show is what are your picks for the best PS five games? Shout out one for kebab, Sresha and Clank, Rift Apart. Are we why are people writing in? So you are super chatting in with how they fix Nintendo. You got two separate ones. That's that's it. We're waiting for Tim to get back for that episode. And I want you to even Tim was mad yesterday in Slack thinking we weren't doing it. Oh, here we go. It's like, take the baby shit out of your fucking eyes and look at the God damn schedule you have access to, Tim. You know what I mean? The Enderis and the right. Keep shitting in his eyes. The Enderis and says, so how I how I'd fix Nintendo would be to make Pokemon look like Grand Theft. Wait, what? Astro Bot number one. Of course, kind of funny is the game Astro Bot. Yeah. Oh, I see what people are doing here. People are making a bit because Openest Prime says how I would fix Nintendo. Wait, what? KF thinks Nintendo is perfect. Anyway, by the way, onemus, onemus, like the P is like your po-ed, own, po-ed, po-ed. Oh, I see. I didn't know everybody else said it wrong. So one day they were like, oh, shout out to Greg for always getting it right. Onemus. And that never happened. That's not how you spell Pone though, right? Dude, it's just onemus. Just say it. Be happy. Onemus? He says how would be happy with it? How I would fix Nintendo. Wait, what? KF thinks Nintendo is perfect. Anyway, the answer inspired me into or God of War, Ragnarok, because I haven't played Astro Bot. So people are joking because our last two have been fixing Xbox and fixing PlayStation. So they thought today was gonna be fixed. We're fixing Nintendo. Just not. It would be really funny if we did that, but it was like, all right, how we fix it is perfect. Let's do a shitless. I'll be honest. My spoiler for the Nintendo episode might be that it's not broken. This is the most not broken thing. Yeah. They're broken on the in the broken in some ways, but not in any way that actually matters to them. Not in the way that makes money or make fans. Yeah. Ghost of Yote. We put that on there. We already say that. You. Yeah, I think you are. Okay. I think you put that on there. Death loop. People fucked with death. If this was 2022, then yes, but I feel like people have gone. I'm sorry. Hold on it. Onimus Prime says no, no, no. Andy says it right. At which point now you're dead to me. All right. I'm sorry that you have a dumb fucking username. All right. I can't be helped onimus. That's training to, by the way, has to be on there. It was not on there. I'm writing. It has to be. It has to be. Oh, my dog, Nick 96 horizon. It should be on there. What horizon? Horizon. Yeah. Burning. No, I don't. Forbidden. Forbidden West. I don't think that has to be on there, especially for if we're not doing just exclusives, I think both of those games are really great. 8.5s. Sure. I think I just like horizon for Midwest more than people pretend not to like it. I don't know the fuck they're buying the game. Somebody likes this game. Merritt just lays it down and then has his gigantic coffee cup coming. It takes this real smug sip from it. Right now we have 17 games written down. We have God of War Ragnarok, Spiderman 2, Astro Bot, Elden Ring, Claire Obscure, metaphor, Baldur's Gate 3, Returnal, Final Fantasy 7, Rebirth, Forza Horizon 5, Resident Evil Requiem, Alan Wake 2, Blueprints. It takes two deaths draining to Horizon Forbidden West and Ghost of Yote. Death's Door. I want to shout out. I don't think it'll be on there though. Death's Door. Oh yeah. Shout out Death's Door. I'm sorry. I know you just read them, but it's a lot of two's and a lot of kingdom come deliverance to them. Oh, I didn't put that. That's a good one though. Kingdom come deliverance to. I also didn't write down Death's Loop. Do we think Death's Loop is going to be on there? No, Death's Loop will be on there. Hell Divers 2? You said won't. No, no Death's Loop. Okay. Hold that. Oh yeah, Hell Divers 2. Hell Divers 2. Pizza Bet no Death's Loop. I wouldn't pizza bet. I won't take that no. Yeah, because I could I could see it not being on there. Death's Loop is in the horizon conversation for me where I'm like, I feel like it should be on there. But I don't know. Another personal one I would want to shout out is Psychonauts 2, but that probably won't be on there either. Yeah. Now, interesting one. Somebody says Cyberpunk, which is a PS4 game. Yeah, but I played on my PlayStation 5. It came out. Didn't it come out after the PS5 was out? Yeah, I played on my PlayStation 5. Yeah. When did they put out the PS5 version? Oh, I don't know. Sorry, I was sort of stood what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I reviewed the PS4 version of my PS5 is what I'm saying. I think they did they not. I think they did the next gen update along with what was the DLC? For the Kingdom Liberty. Yeah, I think that it was around that time. D-listed on PS4 because of issues. But it came back though, right? It was the DLC PS5. I'm I might add Cyberpunk, even though it's a weird one. No, I could see it. Even though it's rattles. I could see it. Won't happen. No. I mean, I'm not going to write it down. See, what's interesting about this, I feel is that I don't know polygon well. You know what I mean? Like I don't I don't peruse polygon often. So I don't know who else in there, whatever. Because I'm like, I'm looking through my trophies, looking for like, what's something? What's a little what's a little guy? And I see cocoon pop up and I'm like, I mean, I think that's that kind of well, I think Polygon's energy is to include some little guys. But I feel like they'll look their little guys will be like the quirky little guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know where they talk about how they did this list. Who voted on this list? It says Ollie Walsh and Polygon staff. So I assume it's a group product here. Got it. Ollie Walsh is such a good name. Yeah, that is. I do like it. I'm going to write down cocoon. OK. I think that's a fun one. All the way to is a great book. Oh, I didn't. I don't think I wrote down silk song. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, what are like what were OK, hear me out. Yeah. Does Kana make the list? No. No. No. What were the in stray? I think stray could. That's a tough one. I fuck with stray. I'm also like I feel like my perception of what other people feel about stray is warped because everybody else here hates. Yeah, but like it was getting game of the year or game awards. Nominations. Yeah. See a star. No. Animal well. I mean, that's a good game. I don't even know. Is it on PlayStation? Yep. See, yeah, my association now with these games is getting weird because I play most of these games on PC now. Yeah, I know. Oh, when you say stellar blade, you remember goodbye volcano high. Yeah, I remember that fucking game. That came out. Yeah, that's crazy. It's not good. It just stated forever and ever. Stellar blade is an interesting one. I don't think so. I think stellar blade is like almost there, but no. Tunic. I feel like if we're talking like little guys, I feel like tunic might be like a potential little guy. Random one. People really fucked with like the how they designed all of the learning about that world. Another super shower comes in from kebabs, who says infinity, Nikki. Say that again, because I rolled that together. Infinity, Nikki. He has five console exclusives to this day. I didn't know that. Oh. I don't know if infinity. No, I don't think he's not going to make it. Um, Mater. 57 writes in it says Tony Hawk. I don't think it's three plus four. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. This is a tough one. Chasing Liza P. I thought we wrote down lies, but we didn't. Lights piece should be on there. Yeah. No, we're just not. You know me. I don't have anything to say about life. I don't think it's going to be on there, but maybe they are. Hmm. Stick with me on this one. No man's sky. Constantly being updated. Constantly being it's in VR now. It's got this. It's got that. It's got a million, a million things. See, I have that. That's in like my cyberpunk. Yeah. Then you have. Well, I'm getting cute with it. Yeah. I mean, I'm just throwing out stuff. Now somebody in chat mentions dispatch. Oh, is dispatch a top 25? Greg, to you is dispatch a top 25 PlayStation five game. Oh. I think it has to be. I think 25 is a big list. Hmm. We should have done that. We should have sat down beforehand down on the top 25. Oh, yeah. Bear, go through my top 100 and weed it out just to play. Yeah, I'd put, I think dispatch, if I'm making my top 25 live, I think it would be. I think it's the back. That's the thing is, I think it would be just on the outside looking in. I could see it missing the 25. That might be a top 40 game. Yeah. I don't know if I see that for polygon either. We said, did we see that? We said, did we write down metaphor? You wrote down metaphor. Yeah, that was one of the first ones I shouted out. I could see citizen sleeper two grand tourism of seven GT seven people fuck with. Yeah, but there's all the microtransactions. Shit too. Yeah, but you play the game. The game was very good. Yeah. No, I played. You said citizen sleeper two. Is that on PlayStation? Just murky pops in. It says we're getting cute and not mentioning metaphor. No, we mentioned metaphor rewind the fucking tape. You can't walk in. Why you're walking into the 15 minutes and you're like, oh, they didn't say this. Who do you think I am fucking onus prime? Get out of here. Shout out metaphor before even like a persona three. You know what I like about trophies? What's that? Looking back through trophies and being like, I have I played a game called tape unveil the memories. I got two bronze is it? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is unveil the memories every now and then? I'll scroll through my PlayStation library and just go to the very bottom to see like where are some of the first games I bought on the ps4? And it's just like it was a game called a Pothion or something like that. Wow. Wow. I remember. I remember. I remember a Pothion. My early PS5. I have black light retribution or whatever is called. We were looking for anything to play black light revolution. The two trophies I have a witness. We had a super eight camera, but we never had a family video. Well, no video mum will let us keep. And the other one was dad. You maybe have doubts dot dot dot. That's totally normal. Remember, you still have time to return the tape. It's happening. Can I get you to be a tape unveil the memories trailer? You played this video. I played enough to get two trophies tape unveiling. Calling unveiling memories. Yeah. I'm going to say Final Fantasy 16. Okay. Yeah. That does bring a list of 25. Here we go. Tape unveiling memories. PlayStation. Oh, wait. I vaguely recall this. There's so many video games that come out. Never mind. I don't remember this. But you can see why Greg would want to play it. Is that the phone? That was good. Soundtrack. This strikes me. You remember when we would play a new game from the PlayStation blog every week? Ah, you're right. This is probably what that was. God, those were the days. Those were the days. Because honestly, I found some gems during that. I played Space Channel 5 VR. Hell, yeah. Oh, this looks kind of cool, actually. Based on my two trophies, I'm going to say it probably wasn't. Probably didn't land the way the trailer wanted it to. Guru of Pi gives an interesting one. I think if you made this list, maybe if me and you made this list together even, before your eyes, GFVR 2. That was something I saw it on there and I almost called it out. It's like, yeah. I don't think it'll be on this list. I don't either. If we made our list, it would probably be on there. All right. Is it time to dive in? I think it might be time to dive in. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to dive. We're going to dive into this list. But before we do that, I want you to dive into Patreon.com slash kind of funny and go check out the kind of funny membership which allows you to get shows like this ad free. And speaking of ads, let us tell you about our sponsors. 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I didn't really dig it that much, but if you want to hear us talk about it, you can go over there. If you want to hear why I'm not excited about this game. Greg, are you ready to hop into the Polygon? I am so ready. All right. This is Polygon's best PS5 games, the top 25 PS5 games unranked. So for free flow in here, starting with the first game that comes up. Something's wrong. Something's wrong. Before we got into that, we have a note of how we pick the best games on PS5 right above that. If you want to read that. Yes. So this note comes from Polygon. The Polygon staff plays a lot of video games and everything in this list comes personally recommended by at least one of us. We determined what should be on our list of the best PS5 games by looking at the quality of each title, but also with an eye for breadth and variety. So you should find something on the list that you'll enjoy, no matter what genres of games you like. How much time you have or what vibe you are after. So I feel like that relieves some of the pressure they might have to make this a definitive list. Yeah. Nobody's going to read that. They're just going to be mad. Trust me. I've done this for a long time. All I Wake 2 is the first game that pops up. Fuck yeah. We had that on our shortlist. Hell yeah. Yeah. Do we agree? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can see it. Yeah. I think All I Wake 2, a really, really special game and really for as much as control was like, Hey, if you haven't been paying attention to Remedy, here they are. And to some degree, they're back, you know what I mean? In terms of what they're doing. I think All I Wake 2 was like, Hey, they can do it consistently. They can do this consistently. They can make really cool shit. They can turn it on its head. It was, you know, nice to see them be able to deliver on something. I know they've wanted to do for so long. Everyone has asked them about All I Wake 2 for so long. Can you believe that? Can you believe All I Wake 2 is All I Wake 2? Like if you would, before this game was announced, I feel like if you had said there's going to be a new All I Wake game, you've been like, Okay. Yeah. Right. You could have would have been like, All right, whatever. Yeah, exactly. But the fact that it came out and it was one of the most beloved games of that year. Yeah. And really took them to that next level for what Remedy is. Yeah. You know what I mean? Same like dancing on the Game Awards stage, then doing the whole thing where he's like thinking and narrating his own thoughts. Yeah. It's so good. It's such a great game. It should have been our number two that year. Yeah. Thinking back to the bracket me and Mike did, I might have been a little bit harsh on All I Wake 2. You were. I wasn't familiar with you. I think you guys knocked it out in the first round and it was really fucking upsetting. Well, that I stand by because what was it against again? I don't know. I feel like whatever it was up against, I probably, I think I stand by, but I think I talked too harshly about it. But I was trying to defend the other thing. It's probably why. But I don't like to amazing video game. Amazing video. You don't defend one thing by attacking another thing unless you're doing a bracket. Exactly. Exactly. You know, that's how brackets work. You got to insult the other game even if you love it. The next game on the flip. It's the Wesley Snipes gun image. Exactly. Oh, Animal Well. God damn. Wow. It nailed it. You know what? Good pull there. Yeah. All right. I, yeah, when that came up, I was like, no, but I didn't have that. I know it came up in conversation. Yeah. I don't think it made it. Did it make the short list? We talked about it. Yeah. I don't know if you wrote it down though. Yeah. Oh, that was one of the other things I wanted to do is ask, how many games from our short list do you think actually end up on this final list? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. I'm going to say over 15. I think we get at least 15 on here. Okay. We had 25 on the short list. We had 25 on the short list. Animal Well. Hell yeah. This is a game that I feel like not, I don't think it gets overlooked necessarily because I think critically people loved it and we talked about and all that stuff. Right. But I don't hear about it. Not anymore. Critically, bam, it was, but even after the fact, there's so many indie games that come out, make that wave, get that juice, and then are talked about throughout the year, where I really do feel like even for, you know, Roger reviewed it, gave it a 10. I remember, I think it was the first 10 we did in the new scoring system. And like that was a big moment for us. And I don't think anyone necessarily kind of funny loved it as much as Roger did, but it's not like those scores were foreign when you looked at other outlets, other people talking about it. I just felt like that conversation went away really quickly. Yeah. I mean, it is a very particular game. Fair. You know, it's a Metroidvania that isn't combat focused at all, right? It's way more puzzly. I played it. Absolutely loved it. I don't know if I'd say 10 out of 10, but I would be on the nine out of 10, right? I would be somewhere around there. I think this is, I forget what year this came out, but whatever year it comes out. I think it's one of the best games of the year. So I'm also trying to look at like, what were other big games that year, which I think that was tears the kingdom and Balder's Gate. Yeah. And that was also metaphor that was shadow of the earth tree. That was metaphor refund. Tazio. That was definitely a top. This is a top 25 game with that. That was a lotro. Like there are so many. I was going to say top 10, but I guess with that competition, yeah, I could see how it gets a little bit lost, but really good game. I'm looking forward to seeing they do next. Really cool stuff here. The next game on this list is Astro. There he is. All right. So we're two for three right now. My initial reaction, I guess this is unranked, we said, right? Unranked. Okay. I'm forgetting. I'll stand down. What are you going to say? I was thinking this needs to be higher than where we are right now at top 25 list, but then I caught up to the conversation we've been having. Oh, funny enough. When we talk about animal well here, the review they reference here, they say read Russ fresh sticks full review of animal well. So he reviewed it for polygon. So homie. As you know, Russ, of course, one of our part time kind of funny employees out there doing stuff. Shout out to Russ, who I love and of course love working with, but also just slacking with where I'm not going to name names. I'm not sure if he's talking shit in public, but he was playing some game for review that is out or whatever. And he was just like, yo, this is this game sucks. And then he was like railing. I was out of the blue one day just said, and then the next day he sent me like the Metacritic. He's like, I still got it because everybody else hated it too. Before we go or before we leave this episode, we're going to stop there. No, I want to bring in a couple more super chats because I see some coming in this one from Kesselwinks who gives a $20 super chat. Thank you so much and says watching on delay, but had to stop and say the I'm actually episode delivered great episode. Hope to see more KF invasions. Mike on smarty pants with his PowerPoint skills. Oh my God, Mike would be great on smarty pants. What is smarty pants? It's a PowerPoint show. Oh, yeah. He's born for that. We got a campaign for that actually. And then Nick on, you know, people know you just go talk to them. Yeah, you don't have the campaign. We had a campaign for it. Nick on crowd control would go and say, and that'd be a fun to crowd control. That's where they literally go on stage and it is doing crowd work. Like, oh, wow. But like all the people in the audience have like hidden things about them. Like everybody's an interesting person. Okay. And so they kind of, oh, so do they like seed the crowd? They seed the crowd. Interesting. And then it really is like, you'll start off just to ask people whatever. And then they have some, they'll like be like, all right, let's move on to level two. And people will reveal signs on their chest. That is like, ask me about this. Ask me about my marriage. Ask about whatever. Yeah. A good idea is over there. Drop out. And then we got another one from. Did you watch your episode yet? I'm not watched the episode because I don't, it's, I get weird about watching myself on things. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to cringe. You're really good to bless. Thank you. I'll watch it. You know what? I'll watch it. Thank you. Openest Prime gives another super chat and says, these lists are stupid when everything is third party. How are they PlayStation games when they're everywhere? Just say it like openness. Oh my God, we get, we get it. You're mad at your name. Stupid. Don't get mad at me. Okay. Also it says the 25 best PlayStation five games not. That's why that's why I pronounce it. Best exclusives. Oh, openness. Openest. Got it. That I won't fuck it up again. Openest. My thing with it is like, I don't mind it being third party games. And no, I almost swing the opposite way where I'm like, why does it, why do all the games have to be PlayStation focused necessarily? Just give me the best 25 games I can play on PlayStation. Yeah. I know a lot of people disagree with that, but like, because these kind of lists as well, especially like when you're doing like on ranked, this serves a, we're recommending games to people. This is what we're recommending to people who have bought the, this platform and are hungry for trying things out. You know, if we're doing like a more like let's rank every first party studio exclusive game. Like, yeah, that's a different conversation, but I think there's room to have this. Oh, penis. Next one on the list is Baldur's degree. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. You assumed it had to be here again. My only, if we were having to come up with a case of why it wouldn't, it would just be like, well, it's best on PC. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like, I mean, people still really, really like it on PlayStation. I think that makes us three for four. I've lost count of how many games we've gone through. Yeah. Three for four there. And so only one we've missed so far is Animal Well, which we did bring up in the thing, but didn't list it on our shortlist. Next game, Blueprints. Yo, did you write it down? I think I did. Hold on. Double checking. Yes. I wrote it down. We're four for five. And I'm happy. So far, even though I know this is a good list, this is a really good list. This is a fantastic list so far, Polygon. Next game, we got Clairebscare Expedition 33. Understandable. Five for six. Expected. If this list was ranked, do you think Clairebscare ends up top five? Yeah. Don't you? Yeah. Think about like what a runaway game of the year it just had. Yeah. But like, part of me, I don't want to take this away from Clairebscare because it was such a clear winner last year. It was such a clear winner last year. But if it came out in like 2024, like Barrett Redson, one of those games, I wonder, I just wonder, I just wonder what that would look like when you're going up against Baldur's Gate in Tears of the Kingdom. Okay. I feel like last year it was like, oh, this is so clear. It's so clearly Clairebscare. But I feel like you put it up against Tears and Baldur's, then it's like more of its own weight class of like, all right, now we're getting some fair fights in now. Yeah. I'm saying it's on the level of... I think it's a safe top 10 for most people. Yeah. Safe top 10 for sure. Next game on the list is Cyberpunk 2077. All right. Which I think I wrote... Oh, did I not write? I think you talked yourself out of it. I talked myself out of writing it down because Greg said it wouldn't be on there. I don't think I said it like that. Yeah, you said it exactly like that. Damn. I can't believe you did that. I take the pizza best if you're always so fucking confident in your own picks. It's actually taking the pizza best. This was the pizza best. Well deserved, right? I mean, Cyberpunk 2077, one of those fucking stories, you know what I mean? Of a game which with so much anticipation, a game that came out did not live up to the hype. That of course had problems beyond the hype when you talk about PlayStation 4's version. But CD Projekt's commitment to making that game good and delivering on it and then coming back with Phantom Liberty and really delivering, I mean fucking Hresobok, let's go. Oh my God. Yeah, no, Cyberpunk 2077, this edition made it one of my favorite RPGs, right? And I liked a lot during launch despite all the bugs and all that, right? But it was very much like, I like this game with a bunch of caveats. Now with this version, I can just say I love this game and I don't have to go, oh, but this, but this. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Did you write down Citizen Sleeper because we're in the seas now and it doesn't seem like Citizen Sleeper is going to be on there either. No, I didn't write down Citizen Sleeper. Even though in my heart. I think that's what, 4 for 6 Barrett? Yeah, if you didn't write down Cyberpunk, I can't believe Greg did that to you. I know Greg, of course Greg does that to me. I'm always going to be out to put that stick in your spokes. The next one is Death Stranding 2 on the beach. I know, Brainer. Has to be on there. Understandable. Art. Didn't have to be on there. Great game. Had to be on there. Think you're fucking coffee. Turn off your camera, push the buttons. This game looks so good. That's the one thing, like the one thing that I have to say every single time I even see a screenshot from this game is like the visual direction of this game goes so insane. And that's whether you're talking about environments or you're talking about the technology or you're talking about the lighting when you get to those Neal sections like insane shit. Neal sections. I love that. Next one is Despolote. I like it. Wow. I like it. Fuck it up. Come on. Holy God, let's get there. One of those little guys. Yeah, those little guys. I wouldn't have expected this little guy. They're cooking this list, man. How much did you like Despolote? I liked it a lot. Yeah. I liked it a lot. I think I liked it as a work of, man, you can do this with video games. I know we talked about it a lot last year, but Despolote is more of a documentary style video game about the World Cup in, was it Ecuador? Ecuador. Yeah, I believe it was Ecuador, a World Cup year in Ecuador. And what the community was like during that time has a really distinct art style, does really cool things with just like being able to kind of live in this world and take in the story that is telling. Really cool game. Our next game for you is Disco. Oh, I thought about Disco, but I was like, I don't know. Fuck it. I didn't write it down. Yeah. I think I also thought about Disco, but forgot to actually bring it up. Yeah. I don't think we actually surfaced it and I did not think about it, but that makes sense. Of course, Final Cut adding all that Vio. Yep. People wanted that so badly to get in there and do it. This was the version of the game that I played and absolutely fell in love with. The Vio's incredible. Yeah. I need to go back to it sometime, but I mean, when do you have time? You would like it. Yeah. But when are you, it's like a 30 hour game. Yeah. But yeah, it is the one you're going to have the time thing. I've lost Count Bear, by the way. We'll go back after this. Too many beers. I think we're still, let's see. We did, we nailed one, two, three, four, five. Six. Six. Yeah. Not that. Not that. Seven. Not that. Or seven out of 10. All right. And we keep it moving with our next game, Elden Ring. Of course. Has to be there. Has to be there. What a game. Top three, what it's all said and done for like the best PS5 games might be top one. Honestly. Yeah. If you were to ask me, I'd maybe put it at top one right now for me. Wow. Yeah. That's high praise. Understandable. Our next game on the list. Final Fantasy 14. Would not have thought about this. 14, okay. For the PS5. Yeah. Hi, I'm on the phone. Is he, is he fucking writing for them? Is he over at Polygon? I don't know if he's over at Polygon. I don't know what he does. No, he writes for Ijin. Um, interesting. Yeah. I mean, I like, you love to see it. I'll throw that out there. You love to see it. Again, we're talking about little guys and I think it's so easy to go to the blockbusters, to the game of the year contenders, the top three for the X, Y, Z years or whatever, to toss out Final Fantasy 14, a game that again, another success story, right? Another reinvention, but then the way they've been able to capture an audience, keep that audience around, have people talking about an MMO RPG that isn't a fucking wow. Right. Yeah. Like talking about it in a popular sense, like incredible stuff they've done. I think if I'll, if this was more of a formal top 25 ranked list, I probably would have argued more against it being on here because I've viewed it as a cross-generational game, right? Final Fantasy 14, that was pure for error. Sure. That we're talking about. But this list is a, hey, what are 25 games, what are the 25 games you recommend the most to play on PS5? Yeah. I totally understand it being on this list in that context. Yeah. It also, some people in Chow were saying it did have a big PS5 update. And I would also say like when it was in its highs, it was like that like early PS5 years in like 2021 to like 2023 where expansions were coming out and it was so big, people were waiting hours to get into it. That's true. Yeah. It really had like this huge moment early on in the, this generation. The next game is Forza Horizon 5. Wow. I called that shit. Come on. Bless that. That's a, that is, you call this shot. Let's go. That has great job. It deserves to be here. Motherfuckers, Forza Horizon 5 is an incredible video game that you should play on PlayStation or wherever you play games. But if you're on PlayStation and you've never played a Forza, you should play Forza Horizon 5. Come on. Good ass game. If they ranked this, where do you think it would be? Number, number two. If I ranked this, Forza Horizon 5 is top 10 for me. If we, if I, if I would be above all of the other PlayStation exclusives. If I'll just piss people off. Yeah. But like, I mean, if you above some of them, I'm putting this above Ratchet. I'm putting this above, you're putting this above Ratchet, right? Yeah. Yeah. What about Returnal? No, no, no, I'm not putting it above Returnal. Also, because this is alphabetical, no Final Fantasy 16 or seven rebirth. Wow. Wow. Wow. No seven rebirth is kind of, is not even kind of crazy. That's crazy. Ah, that's nuts. Next up on the list, we got Ghost of the Ote. Ghost of the Ote. Yeah. Got to be there. Well learned. Again, I think this is a conversation we were having yesterday on how to fix PlayStation, right? That these sequels to the games that are the breakouts of this PlayStation franchise, right? Do kind of feel like they get the shaft. Oh, it's just more, it's just more. The extraordinary becomes ordinary. I think in so many different ways. Yote, we talked a lot at review, obviously, of how much we loved it. But then I do feel like conversation cooled quite a bit on it. A great game. I'm happy to see it. I love Ghost of Yote. Our next game on the list, God of War, Aknorok. Again, conversation. Everything you just said. They don't talk about as much. Love to see it. Probably if I mean, if you're to ask me, right, top PlayStation in-house first party games, I think God of War, Aknorok will probably be my number one for the PS5. Oh, between that and Returnal, I love Returnal a lot. I asked you about two. But God of War, Aknorok is like the first one that comes to mind for me, though. Of like, this was this lives up to when you think of prestige, PlayStation, like firing on all cylinders, give me an amazing story, give me great gameplay, all this shit, right? Like God of War, Aknorok is kind of the premiere for that, for me of this generation. Next up on the list, Gran Turismo 7. Yeah. Hell yeah. I would have not thought this would make the list. Yeah. Not because it's not a bad game or anything. Gran Turismo 7, you want to talk about another game that you just don't hear about. I feel like outside of the GT community. And again, to our conversation yesterday about what the PlayStation audience fan bases become, I just don't hear people talking about GT the way I used to about fucking Roper being obsessed with the GT. And I know I'm going into the annals of history here, but like, I just feel like, especially with the way Forza has won the hearts and minds campaign and then come to PlayStation now, I just don't hear about GT or the fervor for more. But again, I'm not in that community. Yeah. This is another one where I had to call Michael Hyam for Michael Hyam. Is he? I didn't know he loves racing, loves racing, has like had like a racing wheel that I think he used to play Gran Turismo 7. And then I brought it into my room one day to play GT 7 in VR, but the wheel wasn't hooked up the right way. So I went into the race and then the car veered left and I felt like I was in an actual car crash. It was very scary. Be careful with your time. Hey, man, he came in dressed like an EMT to help you out. I'm like on the floor side. You're somehow like you got smashed against the wall. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, dude, GT 7 in VR, one of the best VR experiences I've ever had aside from the car crash. Next game, Hades. Oh, just Hades won because Hades 2 is not yet. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. We're getting in that Xbox world. Oh, that is not yet. That is not there yet. I don't know. Great game. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Deserves to be on there. Do we have that on our list or what do you say? No. I don't think we bring up Hades. Did I write down Hades 2? I might have wrote down Hades 2. No, I didn't write down Hades. Yeah. This was, I think, purely just because we didn't even think of it. We just forgot. Sure. Yeah. Next game, Hell Divers 2. Hell yeah. You love to see it. Hell Divers 2. What a fucking success story. Yeah. Insane for as much as I loved Hell Divers 1 on Vita to be here on this game, just dates forever, finally comes out. And then yeah, that first me and Andy going to play at a PlayStation, toss into the deep end, like, I don't know, it could be great. And then to get it in the way we, I was obsessed in the way many of us were obsessed, the way you, the audience were obsessed. What a fucking game. Yeah. I love that. When I think of the more successful PlayStation exclusives of this generation, Hell Divers 2 comes to mind. Yeah. And like, I like that. I like that it's something different. I like that it's, I, you know, we have, endless conversations about the multiplayer live service, question, all that stuff. Right. I like that even beyond that, there is Hell Divers 2 that is, all right, it's multiplayer, it's live service, but also it's something that we all like. Yeah. Something that we all kind of agree that it is a good thing. And you see the numbers and the success and all that. And so that's good to have. Yeah. And the reason being, right, and this is just me crystal balling, right, is that Hell Divers 2 doesn't feel like chasing a trend. Yeah. When we talk about PlayStation and Jim Ryan, and we're going to have all these live service games, it felt like you were making this announcement. And then what we saw was trying to become Overwatch, trying to become Fortnite, trying to become, this was clearly, we are making a sequel to Hell Divers that had an audience. And I clearly, they didn't expect it to be as big as it was. Anybody, understandably, because they weren't betting big on it. Like they were with a Concord. Like that's the difference here. We, they looked at Concord and said, everybody else is having success with live services. Clearly we will as well. Whereas Hell Divers 2 was like, all right, we're making a better Hell Divers. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. The next game we got, Like a Dragon, Infinite Well. All right. That's a great call out. Great list so far. Because yeah, Like a Dragon doesn't, didn't come to mind for me, but. Diverse, I like that. When you think about just this generation of video games, one of the most consistent franchises has been Like a Dragon slash Akusa. Yeah. In terms of always having a game to release. There's always one coming. Every year you're getting one. Are they all great? No. But. But when the big ones come out, right, whether it be Infinite Wealth or the other one, I think that was just Yakuza Like a Dragon. Yeah. Right. Yeah. When those come out, it's like, damn, the fan base is really happy. The fan base is really excited for this thing. And I played a little bit of Infinite Wealth. It was great to be in Hawaii. That was fun. It's really cool. Yeah. Be in Hawaii, hang out with both Ichiban and then Kiryu as well. Right. Like a lot of things that I know, fans of the series appreciate. I don't know if they nailed everything, but I think they nailed enough to put it on here. Next game, metaphor, Fernasio is expected to go to is that next persona game to are you excited for, you know, the four remake or whatever I am is for, for Golden is one of my favorite jr<|tr|> град is I'll probably just say is one of my favorite games is is I'm super excited for that, but I think I'm way more excited for something new. Okay. Yeah. Understandable. I'm in the same boat where I'm more looking towards a Persona 6. I love Persona 4, but like, wow, am I going to replay that entire game? Probably not. Yeah. I'm also interested just like with it finally being the team that worked on Persona 5 Royal specifically Persona 6 being their first original creation after the original like leadership left. Like what is that? What does a new Persona game look like under new leadership, especially in a post-Meta 4 refontology world that definitely looks like it was trying to push what person like the Persona style combat even further in terms of like strategy and difficulty and all that. So it'll be interesting. Yeah. Our next game we got on the list is Resident Evil Requiem. Hell, yeah. This one got spoiled for me as I was putting together the show, but I understand. Makes sense. That's why they upgrade this game. Hey man. Fantastic game. Top 25 for you for a PlayStation 5? Greg Miller's personal list? Maybe. It's one of those words I don't want to commit to it. It wouldn't be in the top half for sure. Not that I think it's a bad game. I really enjoyed Requiem. I loved Requiem, but like, I don't know. I hadn't thought about it in that context. That's a hard context. Yeah. It's such an interesting one because I know, I mean, this is the truth for all of our personal lists, right? But like when you make personal lists, they start to get weird. Of course, like immortality would be on my list. You know what I mean? Is that a list that would go on a polygon or is that a game that would go on an IGN or a polygon thing? Probably not. Can I ask you a question then? What's up? Did you play immortality at PS5? No, I think I played it on Xbox. See that was my thing too of looking through and it was like, I almost said it for this, but I was like, well, no, I have zero trophies on it. It came so late to PS5. I just don't think of it as being a PlayStation 5 game. That's a good point. The next game we got is Returnal. Nice. Hell yeah. One of my favorite PS5 games of this generation, purely for how fresh it felt as a first party thing. Do you think Saurus can overcome it in terms of when I ask you, which is better? Would you enjoy more? Whatever. Yes, because I think there's so much stuff that you can iterate on. I think especially with like roguelite mechanics, there's so much that you can do systems wise. Like I look at Hades to Hades to as far as the way they're able to lock in and be like, all right, what are the things about the gameplay loop that people like and how do we make that more fun? How do we take some of the core mechanics when you look at Hades, things like the cast system where it's like, all right, let's turn this into like hex based stuff and make it more about area of effect damage and all this shit. Right. I think roguelite design making that stuff better makes sense when you're working iteratively. I think beyond that, when you talk about story, hearing Roger and Andy talk about the narrative and stuff, I'm like, yo, I feel like I'm going to like the story maybe even more than like returnally. I like the red, I like Returnal story, but it was very non traditional as far as how they It was an alecory. Delivered it to you. Yeah. Yeah, which I honestly kind of fuck with. I appreciate it a lot. I'm going to be interested to see how Sony cinematic first party it becomes with Star Wars with like what we've seen from trailers and previews and stuff. I really loved the story for Returnal for like how different it was from the rest of Sony stuff. Or is like, I don't know how much I'm going to vibe with Star Wars going more for like, hey, let's give you a straightforward thing. Whereas like Returnal felt like unraveling layers of what everything means, which was like so fucking cool. And it reminds me like it does kind of like Alan Wake 2 stuff in a way before I wake to write or like fucking what's the other Alan Wake game control, right? Yeah, just the way it would kind of reveal things through gameplay and environments. I thought was so fucking rad for sure. It's made in people in chat are pointing out since this is alphabetical. No ratchet. Yeah, no ratchet. Not crazy. I agree with like I I really liked ratchet it one game of the year because it was on everyone's list, but I feel like I Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't think it would make it. I look I look back at that's a game I had a great time with but like not a game. That was a great game. Oh my god. It's sticking with me As we continue our next game on here speaking of insomniac Marvel spider-man 2 Yeah, yeah, which I believe was on our list as well again. I think there's a lot to Hem ha argue about between Smiles and this and that but a bigger world more to do the cool crossovers Nothing felt wasted remember that was a big thing side missions mattered like again I think we're so easy to be this isn't the exact same conversation because drama piece five games But it's so easy that some of the lustre of spider-man 2 is lost because it's the third game You know what I mean? Sure. Sure. I think there's certain story beats that weren't my favorite in this one But like not anything that's enough for me to be like I'll get this off the list here. I think this is a great game You know and I think because a spider-man it on a list like this It had it kind of has to be on here because you're talking about a list that is Recommending games play on PlayStation 5 one of the 25 games you would recommend people play on the platform I think spider-man that has to be on there because it's a game that speaks to everybody in some sort of way 100% Yeah, the next game we got street fighter 6 hell. Yes. Oh, that's fucking off I didn't think about that but that makes a lot of sense Which makes me wonder if Tekken is gonna be on the list I don't think it will be but I like that street fighter 6 is here the next game we got is Tetris Effect connected I almost said it I almost said that that's a good pick now. Oh What was the luminous? Yeah, come on now? Let's go luminous. Let's go I mean that's what should be here over Tetris, but I understand the name recognition the brand We missed the luminous the alphabetical We're past out. Yeah, we're not on the list. It's also just like luminous gameplay like come on It's fucking Tetris gameplay shut up. Yeah, it's not it's not as well. I mean Tetris is better than luminous. Yeah, no It's not every actually you're all wrong and also let's be honest, but it's room for both the songs in Tetris effect. I Think I think you're still way better than luminous. Wow. I remember no Tetris songs Oh That's a song that's what that song name one limit a song oh shake you booty shake you booty shake your body down to the ground Shake your body shake you and then the fucking this one No, I can tell you about the apples I can tell you about the broccoli. I remember the visuals of this What enough I could tell you just affect the song. Let me the connected That fucking opening song I got your anger every single time Think about life. Oh man, that's why Dornbush and I were trying to get it nominated for best story at IGN insane by the way next game is Hell yeah, that's a great list so run. Yeah, I run it back in order so Tetris Street Oh, sorry, you said an order so I was going back to the time it doesn't matter. It's a good back stop Do whatever you want. No, I'm starting here. I start from the bottom Tetris effect connected Street Fighter 6 Spider-man we hold that so that's one Returnal we called that that's to resident evil requiem called it. That's three. Those are free space metaphor reef on Tazio called it That's four Like a dragon infinite wealth. Hell yeah, we didn't call it did not call that held I verse two I think we called that that's what we did Hades did not call it Grand Turismo seven called it six God of war Ragnarok called it seven Ghost of Yote called it eight Forza horizon five called it nine crazy final fantasy 14 could not a car respect the pick respectable Elvin ring called it ten Disco Elysium the final cut should not call it should have called it Desperate could never have called it but good job Deaths draining to on the beach called it for 11 Cyberpunk 2077 Is Greg I say Claire obscure expedition 33 call it 12 Blue Prince called it 13. Did we call it? Yeah, I called it. Yeah Baldur's gate three called it 14 Astro bot called it 15. We're already above the threshold now animal well. I don't forget Didn't write it down okay and Alan wake to 16 16 so yeah, right above my 15 game Threshold there Are there any big omissions of course this final fantasy? 16 and final phases seven. I think seven rebirth is the biggest omission at a glance Yeah, I was gonna say go through and run. Yeah, what is the game? We wrote we wrote down God of War spider-man to Astro bot Elvin ring Claire obscure metaphor Baldur's gate three Returnal f of seven rebirth for two horizon five rising will wreck we am I'll wait to blue Prince it takes two wasn't there nor split fiction Um that's running to horizon forbidden West wasn't there no horizon which I think you have no love for that man I think you guys kind of like called that a little bit Ghost of Yote, that's it on the bubble one, you know what I mean where it really falls to you and your outlet of how do you look at horizon Well, you all heard how we think of horizon. We really enjoy everybody's got an opinion on horizon. Yeah Can come deliverance to wasn't on there surprises me a little bit Held I was two was on there. We had cocoon. We had silk song Liza P dispatch Gran Turismo seven and Final Fantasy 16 so those I think the rest of those that we that I just read that didn't make it on there I'm not surprised. Yeah. Yeah, you could see why they're like the genre would appreciate those. Yeah, a lot of genres, so Hell yeah, hell yeah, I think that's a thumbs up for me. That's a good list That's a good list. That's a yeah that that list is the shit It is the shit and so are you watching before we get out of here? Let me bring up some super chat one super chat that we got in Bane or I send says I'm glad I can say this again Where is silk song that is fucked up? That is that is no omission right there. It is Greg. Yeah, this has been a fantastic episode. It has the games cast the shit list, of course Comment below. What are your picks for the best PS5 games of all time? 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